Guild Wars 2

TheDaiBish.9735:

Unsure what you want me to do about it.

Then why do you even ask in the first place? Crafting BiS gear shouldn’t be the only method of acquisition.

LanfearShadowflame.3189:

I realize ascended items aren’t tradeable, but are they not sell-able? Salvageable? I mean, could do either of those if you got the box and didn’t want those stats. I understand that you want a particular stat combo, but I think it was nice that they allow you to select a weapon type at all. Be happy its not a predetermined weapon type and stat combination like in other games.

Be happy it’s dumber but not the dumbest idea. Yay!

fellyn.5083:

Are you playing the game right now? This last update has done more to get people out in the world than any update previously. Or all of them combined.

People are actually playing the game. Yes, they have a goal in mind, but so what. Who doesn’t?

In the meantime challenging content is left to rot while giving you obsolete gear.

Dondarrion.2748:

No, they didn’t, stop talking bs and read latest blog posts and listen to interviews with Colin.

You do realize anet’s dev changed their mind a lot of times? Account bound dyes, 1 dungeon run = 1 weapon/armour piece, esport (LOL) etc.

TheDaiBish.9735:

If there’s nothing you enjoy in the game, why play it?

I enjoy everything except crafting and open world zerging. I need ascended gear for fractals. Doctor, I need your help.

TheMaskedParadigm.3629:

The power went out. That’s what happens during a blackout.

Than you have to redo it again, this time without losing power.

TheMaskedParadigm.3629:

In some cases, it’s:

skill click, skill click, skill click, skill click….

You forgot about placement of aoe. It’s skill click, hover the mouse onto area, click, skill click, hover the mouse onto area, click…

Why do you think people are using guardians? To get more defense.

Retraiting for more defense (etc. more condition removal) or simply swapping utilites/weapons is much more productive than getting a new set of armour, weapons and trinkets. Especially in this brave crafting world.

Crafting panels are new high end content.

Sutcliffe.5491:

Thinking that WvW is only about zerging just shows your ignorance about WvW.
And whether anot WvW-ers are happy with the new gear is another issue.
All i know is that the stats u mentioned are not useless like what u say and Anet were to remove these ‘useless’ stats from ascended weapon, more people will complain that there is nothing for them.

Most people zerg, disagreed? Someone asks for a build for wvw, typical asnwers:

1. “You need lot of toughness to survive t1 zergs”
2. “Zerkers are free rally in zergs”
3. You should see the point

Wvw is 24/7 zerg for most of the people and anet promotes that gameplay with every new patch. Seems like you don’t play how they intended you to. Similiar to how exotics were not intended to acquire that fast.

The only people that could possibly be “smart” enough to ask for gear progression are playing mostly in pve. It’s been made for them.

Sutcliffe.5491:

Maybe it’s not useful in fotm 80 or in general pve content, but saying its useless is just not true. I have seen builds using toughness and healing power in wvw to great effect. If u dun play wvw and as such the stats are useless for you. Then it’s not anet fault but its due to u ignoring a part of the game that such gear can be useful.

Do you think wvw-ers are happy with new gear? Did they need gear progression?

Forgive me if I don’t find zerging as something fun.

DeWolfe.2174:

The only thing useless is a closed mind. After a year of playing, I still don’t get the mentality of Zerker or nothing.

Ascended was created to give us something to spend our time on. Thus, the boxes are working perfectly because you’ll have to keep going to get the stats you want. Heck, if I was dev, I would put the drop rate of Zerker to 10% or less. This would be to take up players time longer and to encourage them to try other builds.

Maybe because there are 2-3 prefixes that don’t have useless stats like healing power or toughness. Have you ever played fotm 80? Mobs, normal mobs, not bosses, can deal 25k+ with their autoattacks. Having less damage and still dying with 1-2 hits is acceptable to you?

AndrewSX.3794:

Actually compared to 6 months ago – Mes+Guard+War or gtfo – now every class have a build of two for “speedrunning”.

The problem is that
-pugs have usually a 3+ months delay in learning new stuff
-some classes are arguably easier to get working

For example, a LH ele does supreme DPS, on par – if not more most of the time – of the average warrior. But ppl will rarely get a LH ele in pugs party, compared to a zerk warrior. Why? Cause Warrior can be played by a blinded slowpoke and yet prove somewhat useful in terms of DPS (press 2 on GS, swap in Axe auto, repeat endless). That’s a bad warrior, yet for so little effort there is already a decent DPS.
A LH ele if you’re not good/careful enough will be flattened to the ground at the first error.

Not only pugs have a delay.

Nike.2631:

Because the chase would be over with one drop. The entire tier is about slowing down progression.

This is more flexible than the exotics, which give you no choices when you get one (other than to equip it or sell it). Being able to sell them is a big part of why Exotic acquisition was way too fast compared to their intended time/progression arc.

You should also keep in mind they want you buying character slots and making alts. The birthday gift insta-level-20 scrolls a AND these new boxes work hand in hand. Got an ascended stats-box you can’t use? Make an alt who can.

Making alts with this amount of time gating? I deleted alts after patch hit for their exotics for salvage.

And which alt would you use if you got magi stats since almost every decent build in pve is zerker?

Chase wouldn’t be over after 1 kittening drop. You use 1 weapon?

TheMaskedParadigm.3629:

I solo’d Lupicus as a Quaggan. It was pretty easy, actually.

Yes, I’ve seen that but can’t say it was legit. Who knows what happened during those blackouts…

TheMaskedParadigm.3629:

Warrior damage really isn’t that insane.

But self-buffing and the lack of effort to deal more damage is.

Dolan.3071:

That ‘Advanced’ Elementalist guide made me giggle. GJ on your team carrying your lousy DPS through dungeons. Maybe ‘New Player’ guide would be more fitting cause you practically run bunker traits.

You sure you clicked on good link? I see only vigor on crit which is the trait every guardian and mesmer use. Or maybe now bunkers use +10% dmg while >90% and +10% while in 600 range?

Mada.5319:

Is it really that hard? I mean, I log on and do my daily however I want and I get ascended gear out of it. I don’t call that a grind. It’s time gated yeah, but its not like it’s such a major stat buff that I can’t get groups or I’ll die without it….

It’s not hard, though it’s kittening annoying. Why can’t I get BiS gear by doing challenging content like fractals 80 and not by spamming 1 during those “world” events? Wait, I don’t even spam 1, I just leave autoattack turned on and watch a movie. Is this game really skill > gear? Is this how “end content” should look like? Standing in LA near crafting panel.

Stx.4857:

Hmm, so in reality.. damage is reasonably balanced? I would expect thief to deal a little more damage than other melee because of how squishy he is, like a trade off.

Try to play an ele without using conjures. No damage, no survivability.

morrolan.9608:

Its called a strawman argument and yes it is annoying. The vast majority who object to the ascended implementation do not want it handed to us on a platter.

Exactly. I want different, l_e_s_s boring methods of acquistion. Why is crafting a method to get last tier of weapon and not some challenging content? Too hard for try-hards?

This filter…

KOPPER.1458:

It is a random drop. You didn’t do anything to really earn it. Killed random creature, get random reward. If you want a specific reward then craft the one you want.

Crafting panel, an ultimate answer to gear acquisition. Why not tokens from dungeons or fractals? Crafting is much harder I guess.

DarcShriek.5829:

I can see how a substandard player would have problems adapting to weapons other than those prescribed by the internet meta builds. Is that the problem you face?

Are you one of those “healing my party paladins”? If so, I can see how a really bad player cannot comprehend that +188 healing power is not exactly wanted unlike +188 power.

But hey, you got an ultimate weapon of destruction. With healing power.

Wethospu.6437:

Videos with 13 and 21 seconds? Lupicus is 5 seconds invulnerable which reduces time to 8 and 16 seconds which is already twice as fast meaning 100% more damage. Then if you remove effect of Feedback (let’s say 3 seconds) it becomes 5 and 13 seconds. which is 160% more damage.

At least I find that bit ridiculous.

I find feedback more ridiculous. Reflections are clearly exploits.

People are using different classes that those from 2012 meta but it’s an exploit. Pugs don’t want to be banned and that’s why they’re sticking to good ol’ meta.

I thought that would be quaggan.

Brazil The Twin D***s.

The high-end content revolves around doing fluff and crafting. No need to improve that.

Xae Isareth.1364:

Fractals is there to cater to people who wants a neverending progression in a piece of content, and it isn’t gear-gated because you can do every single fractal on lvl 1 without any AR.

You realize fractals have only 80 levels? They are not neverending. And that it’s the only challenging content at higher levels this game has? What can people who wants something remotely challenging suppose to do? Afk temple events to get additional AR?

Shiren.9532:

It’s not efficient, it’s cheesing the content. You literally stand there and spam auto attack. Every time you use line of sight it essentially boils down to auto attack. That’s not how group content should be.

Still more skillful than crafting.

Vayne.8563:

But people want to play the way they want…meaning doing the absolutely minimum they can to get the absolute best pay off. What’s the point of even playing at all.

Here, have it.

You ascend by fighting with crafting panel after setting your autoattack on and pressing alt-tab, not by doing something skillful.

Hope it’s fun.

PS. We’re preparing Tequalag just for you.
Anet.

Xae Isareth.1364:

We know that they’re revamping the world bosses, and for Temples, spamming 1 is what makes everyone rage at you. At Lyssa yesterday that’s exactly what happened, 75% of the people just refused to stop looking at her or dodge and just kept spamming 1, the fight took 5 times longer than it should have.

Let them rage, I don’t really care. Anet forces me to be there with their another great content update. I’d rather do some challenging stuff like fotm 80 daily but can’t due to gear gate for which I need ascended crap. I play how I want.

After revamp, it still will be 111111 spam since zerging means your contribution is miniscule.

MikaHR.1978:

When it comes to GW2, alt-F4 gives best rewards

I play how I want.

Xae Isareth.1364:

Well, simce apart from crafting, everything you need for Ascended items are from playing content in the game, none of which are gear-gear gated. So, does that mean you just don’t like the game then?

Maybe some people don’t like pressing 1 together with 100 other people? Check how you can acquire Dragonite Ores.

At least you can press alt-tab and still got full reward.

Moa Racing is an event.

World bosses? You mean alt-tab bosses?

What are dungeons? Never heard of them but I’m currently busy pressing 1 during Lyssa Event. Good thing I still have a guardian.

LordByron.8369:

Speaking about roles.
there is a thing that really i can t explain.

Why in most dungeons zergballin prevents boss to use their most powerful Attacks while ranged Attacks are low dps?

Whats its the point to stay ranged?
If someone answers “only bad players stay ranged” i perfectly agree….but not because they are BAD at evading, but because its more risk and less reward in DPS, ress, support etc etc etc.

A skilled ranged player is less effective then a bad pug in melee (in a melee Group).

They should balance ranged combat a little because has only downsides as it is.
Range has nothing to do with the trinity since any profession can go ranged…its more than:

PvP team nerfed ranged skills to keep them fair in pvp
PvE team didn t consider that and made so bosses are harder if ranged.

result: zergballs in most (not every) dungeon

What the kitten are you talking about?

Nikaido.3457:

/thread

The ascended stuff feels like it comes from the depths of the abyss. Crafting, for most people (I do know there are some who enjoy doing it, and selling stuff) is the least fun part of an MMO, and in most MMO, only people who enjoy crafting will pick it up. They just made crafting mandatory.

So far the way anet has worked is that they want you to do all the content whether it’s any good or not. This is terrible. You have to do guild missions if you want the ascended earrings without spending ton of laurels and glob. You have to craft for ascended weapons (and spend a kitten ton of gold in the process). You have to do dailies for laurels, and log on every day if you don’t want to be left behind (what’s the logic in the daily system? say, if I play a lot more hours during the week ends, and don’t play during some days of the week, why should I be behind someone who plays 30 minutes per day but logs on every day?).
Funnily enough the one and only thing you don’t have to do are dungeons. You do need to do some fractals as a more reasonable way to get rings though, and have the ingredient for backpiece.

So much for “play as you want”, and “no grind”. They did promise there’d be no grind for stats, only for skins like legendaries and the previous expensive exotics. Ascended stuff completely turned this game into the regular grind mmo.

But you don’t need ascended crap. /s

Nikaido.3457:

I’ll leave conjure builds to people who really care strongly about shaving off seconds off runs. d/f has enough damage for a casual speedrun.

More fans of d/f!

Nikkinella.8254:

The majority of us who play ele don’t bother with spvp at all. Spvp and WvW are completely different. In WvW ele is incredibly underpowered compared to the other professions. It doesn’t even seem like it belongs in the same game.

You realize ele was nerfed more in spvp than in wvw? If it’s incredible underpowered in wvw how would you call this situation in spvp? Unplayable?

1. Crafting Panel.
2. Proletariat.

Warbanner OP.

VOLKON.1290:

Fractals, I done a lot of that in exotics. Don’t see any gear gated required grind in there to proceed. Just the need for agony resist which you get fairly easily.

And how do you get agony resistance if not via ascended gear?

VOLKON.1290:

I NEED HELP!

OK, now that I have your attention, can someone please show me where the required grind is in this game in order to be able to proceed to the next tier of content? I seem to be having trouble finding it. I tried going into WvW without ascended gear and was able to… is there an ascended only WvW? I visited and helped beat Jormag, assorted invasions, dungeons, jumping puzzles, etc. and haven’t been able to find the gated content beyond those that require ascended gear… can someone point that out to me? Because until I find it I’m having a difficult time accepting that this type of optional grind is anyways close to violating the “not a grindy game” concept ANet originally spoke of. Yes, I see optional grindy things for those that want the longer term goals, but the required stuff… I can’t seem to find it. Help me out people!

Fractals of the Mists.

byjiang.1260:

Stop this nonsense please. Would you do Liadri in all greens? Any time they release anything remotely challenging you’ll want the best gear available.

Done 8 orbs in yellows. After 9 tries.

Couldn’t make it work.

Brutaly.6257:

is pretty nice and it also makes it possible to do dungeons and fractals in a much more fun fashion compared to everlasting kiting.

Those elitists don’t kite since there’s no challenging content in pve if you have a guardian(s).

Grevender.9235:

you only PvE I assume. I am not going to write again the wall about cost/efficiency ratio, so find it and read it if you want to understand better the point, otherwise stay in PvE and keep dreaming about Ele “being ok”.

You only wubwub I assume. Once anet nerfs current fotm builds you can expect more “adjustment” to ele.

LordByron.8369:

was infact a random personal free attack since i didn t even said they nerfed them.

I read the thread and said i wasn t unhappy at all since i hate conjured weapons gameplay.

We’re gonna play semantics now?

Fishbait.6723:

Because the patch notes are always complete & not full of crap or stuff missing?

btw, enter any place solo, target a mob, call target.
Ta-da! That was never mentioned in the notes.

It was towards LordByron who started preaching that conjures are nerfed which isn’t the case. Patch notes (those in OP) say they are fixed because they were dealing unintended amount of damage. Any logical conclusion shouldn’t be about nerfing conjures at all because they were mentioned next to banners. Does anyone think banners should be nerfed?