Guild Wars 2

Why so gloomy? We got new exciting features coming very soon!

What are fractals? Some abandoned anet’s little side project?

I like it, less ascended crap to craft.

Mirsa.1628:

To that Haziz guy that said conjured weapons are a core mechanic.

LOL. Good joke!

I haven’t said anything like that, hihey did. Though I’m glad you like good jokes.

Wukunlin.8461:

I like this patch. I can see myself focusing more on work now. TY anet for giving my life back.

Words of wisdom.

Anyone still plays fotm?

Syn Sity.5826:

I’m not sure how you would take dual energy sigils on an engineer or an ele.. unless you put two energy sigils on one weapon set i suppose… :P

It’s in paranthesis because it applies differently to those professions.

ThiBash.5634:

Hmm…I wonder how I got that staff weapon master achievement then…

Critters.

Broadicea.8294:

sorry guys I’m not as kittening incredible at the game as you are, better talk kitten and condescend as much as humanly possible

It’s not hate/flame/whatever. I just don’t think taking dual sigils on warriors (and eles/engineers) have any point if you swap frequently.

Good job, now tell me why are you using double energy sigils on a warrior? Isn’t that at least a bit redundant?

Rare chance = 2e-64.

You take points in radiance for radiant power and additional precision. Sword traits are picked just because there’s nothing else to pick excluding very narrow usage of certain traits.

You don’t stay in sword and autoattack. Since gs is quite bursty but with cooldowns, typical way to use them both is to just use your gs skills and then swap for sword. It would be the easiest explanation and it’s very similiar to gs/axe+mace warriors in pve use (100b and whirlwind attack then swap to axe/mace). You can also use sword for mobility and against projectiles (requires some knowledge and proactive gameplay).

Basically, you take points in radiance instead of zeal because after 10 points in zeal you only have 2 decent traits.

GC builds are using both gs and sword.

ZilentNight.5089:

Also you cannot reward per fractal as doing swamp takes like 5 mins or less…which would definately be exploited.

50s for swamp sounds reasonable when cof1 gives 1g.

Minute? I’m talking about seconds. 150k damage from 6 mobs, tanky gear won’t help you at all.

Sorry, but I prefer more balanced environment, even when it’s pos like currently, though zvz-er slowly catch up.

I can see here one strange notion. Usually, people that don’t want to skip are those that use more tanky gear (correct me if I’m wrong). The thing is, it takes considerably longer to kill mobs for those people that for those running optimized builds. It’s also safer for them to skip mobs.

In other words, people that don’t want to skip could actually profit from skipping the most. But it’s no fun I guess.

Ranged encounters are so gratifying.

No one ever uses D/F? It’s the best weapon set for pve except conjures.

I didn’t use xbox but if you want to use hyperboles and say “any host game”, what about Diablo 1 which uses UDP? That’s extreme example but you don’t know how anet coded instances. Only reason why you get kicked when instance owner leaves the party might be just cutscenes requirement. Otherwise, why wouldn’t the game just change the host?

You have to increase the distance.

Sanderinoa.8065:

Frankly I don’t see how getting in the middle of a feedback is any easier than putting your shield up to block everything x.x maybe I’m just not sure about what situation we are talking about.

Offhand sword > shield unless you want to troll other people.

So I can purposely limit my bandwidth and then game switches host? So what would happen if then I would leave the party, since I’m not a host anymore? Nothing?

Sutcliffe.5491:

He means that u always want to complete the auto attack chain before using other weapon skills as the bulk of the damage lies in the last hit of the attack chain.

He rather means that it’s mostly autoattack weapon, that’s why he asked about zealot’s defense.

Rigel.3092:

This is incorrect, but of course, must be the PvE meta thinking behind justifying the logic of using all zerker gear or going full glass cannon – kill first or be killed mentality. Accordingly, if you have PvE peeps/guardians running around in PVT gear and getting downed in a few hits, they need to either re-roll a new profession or L2P their current profession and build (and get some agony resistance to boot). I run full PVT in WvW and even getting focus-fired, do not go down in a “few hits.”

Maybe because enemy players don’t deal 25k with their skills.

Silver.4798:

People will jump on me for saying this I think but I really believe a guard DPS can’t compare with a warrior or thief, and if they could then the designers messed up, those 2 classes were meant to have unrivaled DPS. A guard on the other hand can have pretty high DPS WHILE being able to survive longer AND supporting teammates increase their DPS/survivability. I think going full GC on guard sacrifices too much survivability and support utility and basically I’m trying to play like a warrior. That hurts my soul, know what I mean?

So what support utility do you have with this build that full gc doesn’t have? I’m not going to tell you to be gc, however I am curious about your reasoning.

Mirsa.1628:

Conjured weapons are not a viable or fun way to play the ele. The loss of a utility slot is a huge blow to the efficacy of a class that is already struggling to be relevant in this game. I have no idea how anyone could justifiably place conjured weapons in a competitive build.

No one said they’re fun but they make eles at least somewhat competitive in pve settings (which isn’t competitive environment in the first place).

Is warrior axe able to blind or absorb projectiles?

yLoon.5289:

RHS only affect on your Main Hand, not off-hand. In PVE , the best weapon is GS + Sword Focus/ torch. My Sword 3 hit for 9k without RHS , GS 2 hit for 10k in a deleveled. Sorrow Embrace pve content. RHS imo is just overkill and waste of points if ya got full zerk gear set . The best damage dealing combo any any boss is using the dmg skill on weapon and swap instantly to another while keeping invulnerability up. Not staying put on just Sword, thus thats why i never use RHS. I prefer constantly giving Might to teammate with jus F1 as a better trait off to RHS which definitely contribute better dps to team. Think again before saying others no brainer. You are too simple minded and need more on field experience.

Haven’t tought about comparing sword#3 to gs#2. I definitely need more field experience, any propositions how I can quickly catch up?

LordByron.8369:

with the same effort? …..
please don t tell me yes….this time i would not believe it.

Chaining cc and it’s almost as easy.

You fight with a short range wepon, elementals that can bypass your focus air and earth 4 with aoe…

An average player can t do that…..

They deal 9-10k with their attacks, healing won’t save you.

the question was…

Why would you want an ele in this fractal?
I don t see many LF ele in fotm section, nor i see many eles after 48.

You can literally faceroll this with 4 elementalists

And meleeing shaman with ele is really really hard…..near to impossible in some cases (if i m right about istances being peer to peer rather than server based).

It’s not easier on warrior or necro.
Instances aren’t p2p because if I limited my bandwith other people should be lagging as well which doesn’t happen. If leader got dc everyone should be kicked out.

Bismuth.3165:

Some good advice for the fractals in your site though, good job

You can donate to haviz.1340.

LordByron.8369:

With the same effort as a dps team?
And without losing any hostage?

Perfectly means without losing hostage.

Ele has one of the slowest attack rate……
mesmer/war/thief/ranger/eng don t have thiss issue for example.

Same as guardian and necro then? I don’t see them whining.

Dagger/focus?
Risky….you give up most your healing capabilities.

Last time I checked, most “pros” consider healing as useless in pve.

And things don t get much better…this was pre conjured buff….so now conjured may be an answer.

but before i could use staff for grubs and be bad at shield/reflect
Use dagger and be useless or worse (triggering melee attack is something you don t want in some parties) in most parts

what would you use to be good in any phase?

And more than everything.
If you had each profession would you choose an ele here for efficience?

Conjured buff gave lh 5% critical damage and 8.6% crit chance. If you are afraid of meleeing him just use your water1 skill. You’ll do more damage than longbow warrior. But most parties would actually appreciate triggering his melee attacks.

The bug is a BUG and thus we should expect it to be fixed someday…while the mobility skills happens to be the same dealing damage :/ so if they will be nerfed damage will be as well probably. (i could bet on it actually).

Do you have dev/qa team quote on that?

My last attempt, God save me.

What issues did i point with volcanic fractal in this game

Number 1 and worse of all.
Ele (before conjured buffs and bug) low dps has serious issues dealing with veterans grawls….this is by far the thing i hate most in all fractals….(despite its ubereasy if you have a dps party its an issue if you pug).

A team of 3 eles/1 mes/1 necro can do it perfectly without any issues at lvl 80. 5 low dps profession.

Number 2
Ele had and still has, issues removing shield layers….due to attack rate

Which class hasn’t except dagger thief and ranger?

Number 3
Ele has issues clearing the grubs if he tries to go antiprojectiles with focus.

Don’t use scepter.

Number 4
Staff fire 5 and water 5 PRE buff were terrible and required to stand still and get damage….

On that I can agree.

If you compare ele to any other profession except eng and necro (and only because i have a low knowledge of such class) you’ll see it hasn t a role.

That’s a design choice, unfortunately. Let’s not go why this was completely bad idea.

Now i d just point out that you are saying ele is fine……
While if we don t get balanced, when the FGS bug and nerf will arrive (see Izzy post) this class will be totally unviable….

Iirc izzy was pointing out its mobility on their watch list, not rush. Its “bug” is the same as whirlwind attack against the wall or while being immobilized.

Frankly, getting arrow’ed at that level doesn’t really matter with the amount of heals they had. At least for me, transition part is harder, especially after you destroy shaman’s bubble. But even during this fight, elementalists I know use lightning hammer for grubs. Not a dedicated build though.

Let me rephrase if you think I somehow offended your world view seeing your aggressive approach. Dedicated condition removal is not necessary in most dungeons and most certainly not in fractals. Key world being dedicated.

Ice elemental? You couldn’t pick worse boss.

I didn’t really find condition removal in most dungeons as something useful.

Maybe dungeon team works in basement to release 7 dungeons revamp at the same time! Have faith.

Don’t hit me, please!

Edit: He did. :<

Since Sandy is shy and rarely speaks, I’ll answer that instead. You can pick 81 and even complete that and then do 82 but they all are 80, it’s just a display bug. Level 81 finishes with maw.

Don’t beat me if I’m wrong, please Sandy.

In pvp.

That’s why I made 3 different ways to count the number of hits. And all 3 of them returned same amount. The possibility that it’s not 68 is very slim.

First of all, retal deals 66% of stated in wiki damage. It’s 177 at 916 power.
Second of all, I’ve done 8 tests on golems, 2 tests on veteran risen giant. All 10 gave 68 hits in combat log and by counting frame by frame.
Lastly, I did test with retal in pvp. I had 15455 hp and after rush it changed to 3419. You can easily calcualte how many hits it is.

Maybe fgs is stronger on american servers?

GS has condition removal.

LordByron.8369:

aside your elitism in the bad meaning of it….you just said that fractal are not easy…

The debate was on fotm being not hard.
And fotm can be hard if you infact remove those safenets

Having a voice coordination is now a sign of being an elitist, right?
I’ve said that fractal at level 79 is not easy. It’s faceroll at lower levels though.

Also pugging require lot of skill and can be fun if people is not too bad.

Pugging requires love for masochism. Average pugger can’t even do what you told him to do in a very simple manner.

How can you enjoing doing the same dungeon in the same way with the same people everytime _?
It becomes stale fast.

Same people = pool of 40+ people. It would became even more stale if I had to pug with bads

Devils.3679:

once crit chance is at 50% you will not notice a increase in crit hits from getting a higher crit chance imo as its rolled every hit. taking 5 from Virtues will take about upto 10% dmg much better than RHS. not to mention fury already gives us 20% crit chance.

What does that is supposed to even mean? And how +1% per boon is better up to 10% than rhs? Are you sure you’re using decimal system?

Crit chance is always an increase till 100%.

LordByron.8369:

can you do it with random pugs?

if not its not “easy”

You would expect random pug to do arguably the hardest fight in the game that requires at least some level of coordination without professions giving 9000 safenets? I don’t pug at all because otherwise I’d be forced to kick 99% of people.

Before gw2 was launched anet promised dungeons were for coordinated teams. Stop arguing with “is pug able to do it”.

Elidath.5679:

Ctrl+T is your friend

Decoy?

With current targetting system it’s annoying to use single targetted skills (like lightning strike) on a real mesmer.

Also, before heavy condies overload, mesmers were a profession running zerk/zerk amulet with 20/20/0/0/30 aka “virtually no passive defense” yet they were more survivable than lots of other professions.

Then drop 5 points from virtues if you can’t manage to live without faster recharging shouts.

You shouldn’t test that, it’s common sense. 5 trait points for 15% critical chance is no-brainer.

Sword build without rhs? And with 25 in radiance? Feels like a total waste.