Laptop: M6600 – 2720QM, AMD HD6970M, 32GB 1600CL9 RAM, Arc100 480GB SSD
Laptop: M6600 – 2720QM, AMD HD6970M, 32GB 1600CL9 RAM, Arc100 480GB SSD
DoS attacks have nothing to do with Anet. You can do some searching of new articles to find that GW2 is not the only affected game via the DoS Attacks, LoL, WoW, and a few others are reported to have connection issues in the past couple weeks.
There is nothing that Anet can do to stop/fix these issues for everyone, its just not possible.
You spend 500bucks on a game that ONLY costs 59.99 per account, and you expect that gives you some priority over everyone else who has similar or the same issues as you? Grow up please.
Laptop: M6600 – 2720QM, AMD HD6970M, 32GB 1600CL9 RAM, Arc100 480GB SSD
The difference between the 4670K and 4770K Is about 13% due to the support of HT and the additional L3 Cache. Now that’s at base Clock settings, as its hard to judge performance differences at OC settings due to the Die Lottery.
I will say this though, moving from a FX8350 to a i3-2120 was an upgrade. So going from a FX-8350 to a i5-4670K is going to be that much MORE of an upgrade. And, IMHO, going to an i7-4770K is completely unnecessary unless you intend to fully taking advantage of the HT support and additional L3 Cache, I would say more Business/Work related then Gaming IMHO.
It doesnt matter if your CPU has 8 cores, 12 cores, or even 32cores. The Single threaded PER core performance is what Defines your CPU for this game. That is why the FX series CPU’s cannot stand up to any of the Intel i-Series CPUs (I would say Gen2+).
your R9 is fine and I would not consider replacing that at this time, unless you want to resell it to a Bitcoin Miner for a profit over what you paid for it.
If you want to get the K-Series i5/i7 you need a 600-700W PSU if you intend to fully overclock. A 500w PSU just will not cut it (I had one that was rated at 85% explode, and it was 500w). You should be able to get 4.5Ghz/4.6Ghz on both the i5/i7 K Series out of the box (1.25V). If you can’t, I suggest RMA’ing your chip until you get a BIN that does that. As there are low quality chips out there that cannot overclock beyond 3.8Ghz, and what is the point of buying a K series chip if you cant really over clock it?
Just to give you an idea of what you can achieve with a unlock Intel i5-4670K, I know 2 guys that have their i5-4670K stable at 5.1Ghz and I get mine stable at 4.8Ghz. Though I can rukittenGhz for about 3 days before getting a hard lock in the OS. So I just set my Turbo at 5.1 and my normal rate at 4.8. But your mileage will vary.
Laptop: M6600 – 2720QM, AMD HD6970M, 32GB 1600CL9 RAM, Arc100 480GB SSD
If you have Comcast, their DHCP for the modem IP Addresses have gone “Full Re+ard” and started giving out IPs from across the US.
My wife and I are supposed to have a South-East IP, but we have a North-East IP now that is about 7+ states away.
That’s irrelevant. Subscriber IP’s can live anywhere in the world, as long as they are routed with the ISP correctly. I have a few blocks of /27’s that are split between CA and NY, even though they were subscribed in CO.
Laptop: M6600 – 2720QM, AMD HD6970M, 32GB 1600CL9 RAM, Arc100 480GB SSD
Laptop: M6600 – 2720QM, AMD HD6970M, 32GB 1600CL9 RAM, Arc100 480GB SSD
Without a response from Anet, I will hold Anet responsible for their connection problems. I don’t listen to random people surmising, based on assumptions.
Its not assumption
it has NOTHING to do with Anet!
Laptop: M6600 – 2720QM, AMD HD6970M, 32GB 1600CL9 RAM, Arc100 480GB SSD
it will run OK, you will need to Overclock the APU as the Turbo boost is just one core, else the rest of the chip runs at the base clock (causes FPS issues with GW2).
But at 720p, you should be able to get 60~ FPS with high settings ingame.
Laptop: M6600 – 2720QM, AMD HD6970M, 32GB 1600CL9 RAM, Arc100 480GB SSD
Are you sure?
Mantle is low level API – it is almost same lvl API that conzoles USE.Mantle is going to eccelerate AMD/INTEL – every CPU because … Actually this is wrong
– problem is directX that bottleneck every CPU!I would like to see MMOs with mantle any low level API!
I did starswarm benchmark
RTS-LOW
DirectX 21FPS (FX 4300 4.0GHz)- usage 50%
Mantle 61FPS (FX 4300 3.5GHz) – usage 100%
GPU was bottlenecking at the start – using MantleHe is wrong with PC hardware bottleneck – Software is bottlenecking Hardware!
Thats why with every MAJOR OS upgrade we always see improvements with top end hardware, hu?!
Please, just stop.
Laptop: M6600 – 2720QM, AMD HD6970M, 32GB 1600CL9 RAM, Arc100 480GB SSD
Something i find quite interesting.
Im having lag issues on my account, and I have tried logging in as my friend and we play on the same server but his account runs perfectly on the same PC. It only seems to be affecting certain accounts which is what is confusing me.
Maybe it’s not just the attacks maybe anet messed our accounts or something? Anyone able to test it further?
yea, Anet isnt doing anything to your account. There is still a pretty big attack going on.
Laptop: M6600 – 2720QM, AMD HD6970M, 32GB 1600CL9 RAM, Arc100 480GB SSD
So I worked out all the part numbers and have an upgrade Path for my DV6z-6c00 to convert it to Intel Finally.
the Upgraded MB uses a G2 Socket exposing me to SandyBridge CPUs. and uses a HD6770 GPU.
Currently my Laptop uses a APU A8-3510MX (1.8Ghz, Overclocked to 2.8Ghz), teamed with a HD7690M. – This Motherboard will be used to upgrade the Wifes laptop since she has a HD6550D.
So, what CPU should I invest in?
I see that all the clocks for the Mobility CPUs are much lower then their desktop components, 2.5GHZ for an i3-3120M, and 3.1Ghz for a i5-3210M.
So I need to know what CPU to get for this upgrade, as I am not sure what CPU to drop into. And I only want to do this once…taking laptops apart is like a 2-3 hour investment!
A few keystones;
Resolution is 1080p
Memory is 8GB (2×4 DDR3 1600mhz)
128G SSD
500G Hybrid SSD/HHD
P.S. the MB is only running me about 89Bucks Shipped, so even at another 100 for a i5/i7, its FAR cheaper then buying a new laptop with the above specs!
Laptop: M6600 – 2720QM, AMD HD6970M, 32GB 1600CL9 RAM, Arc100 480GB SSD
Thanks for the quick reply sirsquishy. Both of those settings were already set to Medium, so I dropped them down to Low. I would prefer not to play at Lowest just because I would rather not see people as generic colored soldiers. Any other changes that would help reduce the amount of memory being used without really affecting the look of the game?
And with the game only ever seeing 3.25 GB of ram, is there any reason to set a higher page file or will it not even be used?
There are texture options you can set lower to reduce the system used memory as well. But nothing hits the memory in GW2 quite like character limit.
Page file affects windows, not the applications directly. So it doesnt really matter.
Laptop: M6600 – 2720QM, AMD HD6970M, 32GB 1600CL9 RAM, Arc100 480GB SSD
- Process Memory <—*
Private: 3042MB
WorkingSet: 2994MB
PeakWorkingSet: 2998MB
PageFaults: 26284953
Tone down your ingame settings for character Limit and Character Quality.
The game is a 32bit app, it can only ever see 3.25GB of ram. You peaked at 3.0GB for that crash. In WVW memory gets used higher due to the character models, so turn them down and you should crash less.
Laptop: M6600 – 2720QM, AMD HD6970M, 32GB 1600CL9 RAM, Arc100 480GB SSD
AMD has good single thread performance problems is their design ….
If Games use 4 cores sometimes FX 4300 is faster sometimes i3 4330 is faster
GW2 runs good on FX CPUS – LA (never goes under 45 FPS with settings that i use)
- that is allJust Intel-fanboy…. i bought intel 3770K oced to 4.6GHz … i wasted my money
- problems is Network and crappy directX
…..YOu dont understand MANTLE
- do you know why consoles are faster? ….Mantle doesnt mean that it will push 8 core CPU to 100% usage in games it means that ST will be faster and MT will scale better…
Right now PC SW bottleneck HW!
I hope that Nvidia will support MANTLE and MMOs will support mantle…
I am not fanboy .. i just want the best for costumers!
If you want to run GW2 perfectly – you need atleast i5 or even i5 K models.
So actually, because of SW on PC you have to spend much more money…
Man you just go all over the place don’t ya?
First, you cannot compare a game console to a PC. Its completely different Architecture, and the games are designed to SPEC. Apples and Oranges, while they go good together you cannot really compare them.
PC’s are ALWAYS bottle necked via their Hardware. This has been a fact since 86’ and will be a fact after quantum computing is realized.
If a game uses 4 cores, then the different between AMD and Intel is a moot point. As I stated they both exceed at multi-threaded applications about equally.
Mantle is a pipe dream. It requires to much of software firms to implement. Unless that software company is already designing with mantle in mind, you’ll never see it in their software titles. No matter what mantle may or may not bring to the table.
Laptop: M6600 – 2720QM, AMD HD6970M, 32GB 1600CL9 RAM, Arc100 480GB SSD
sirsquishy.8531
You still dont understand.EDIT:
Main problem of AMD CPUs is:
Intel has better support in games/windows4 cores are the best for these time why?
Compare in Crysis 3
pentium (2cores) vs i5 (4Cores)
FX4300 (4cores) vs FX 8350 (8cores)GW2 need to add directX 11.2 support – that woudl be great for AMD Cpus
I think your the one who doesn’t understand. It’s not that a game is ‘designed’ for Intel over AMD (yes there are SOME Considerations here, but very very few). It’s that there are still a lot of games/apps that use a single ‘core’ thread to run themselves. GW2 is a PRIME example of this with its crappy rendering thread. And we ALL know that AMD has 1/3rd of the performance against Intel for single threaded performance.
That is all there is to this. Single threaded performance. Not DX11.2, Not ‘Intel has better support in games/windows’, and most certainly not Mantle.
If that single thread was broken into 2-3 components and shared its polling across 2+ physical cores, I PROMISE you that AMD would hold its own against Intel in those scenarios.
You wanna know how I know?
my 10+ years of experience working with VMware ESX/ESXi. You get to see exactly how multi-threaded OS’s perform against single threaded applications, and how they effect the different architecture on the different CPU generations. Which is why I pulled all my 6128 AMD based servers (8core CPUs, 4 Sockets = 64cores) and replaced them with e5-2680 (8core+HT, 2 sockets = 16Cores/32Threads), the performance gain was 6:1. Let me repeat that, Performance gain was 6:1 from the latest 6128 AMD Cpus compared against e5-2680 Intel CPUs, for SINGLE THREADED performance.
Now, If 90% of our environment wasn’t single-threaded, I wouldn’t have replaced 25 R815’s fully loaded with 6128 AMD CPUs. As with Multi-threaded Performance, the 6128 is 18%~ faster then the e5-2680 in my tests. And that’s under ideal multi-threaded scenarios (such as Parallel Processing, running the ENTIRE application equally across each core evenly). But unfortunately most of our services are custom in house (Linux/Unix) and are designed by Morons who do not understand the benefit of Multi-threaded processes.
But, that directly translates to the FX-8350 vs the Intel i5-4670(Not K). The Per Core performance when comparing AMD to Intel = there is no real comparison. As Intel does things faster. But if we compare them in a multi-threaded fashion, they are with in single digit %’s from each other.
Laptop: M6600 – 2720QM, AMD HD6970M, 32GB 1600CL9 RAM, Arc100 480GB SSD
Tracing route to 206-127-159-188.plaync.com [206.127.159.188]
over a maximum of 30 hops:1 1 ms 1 ms <1 ms homeportal [192.168.1.254]
2 27 ms 21 ms 21 ms 76-240-24-2.lightspeed.tukrga.sbcglobal.net [76.
240.24.2]
3 * * * Request timed out.
4 * * * Request timed out.
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6 24 ms 22 ms 23 ms 12.83.82.137
7 64 ms 104 ms 78 ms attga04jt.ip.att.net [12.122.84.113]
8 22 ms 21 ms 23 ms 192.205.36.122
9 128 ms 128 ms 128 ms xe-0-0-1.fra23.ip4.tinet.net [141.136.110.121]
10 127 ms 126 ms 126 ms 89.149.164.42
11 127 ms 126 ms 126 ms 206-127-157-86.plaync.com [206.127.157.86]
12 128 ms 127 ms 127 ms 206-127-157-102.plaync.com [206.127.157.102]
13 * * * Request timed out.
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30 * * * Request timed out.Well at least now I know that I’m not crazy. I’ve felt pretty lagged for awhile, but most of my guildies have been saying it’s not a problem for them. (Except for the huge disconnects, obviously.)
I don’t suppose there’s anything I can do?
6 24 ms 22 ms 23 ms 12.83.82.137
7 64 ms 104 ms 78 ms attga04jt.ip.att.net [12.122.84.113]
Since you have paths are are * and not resolving its hard to say if its your ISP or a path your ISP takes. Id call your ISP and get to an engineer and have them look at your tracert.
Laptop: M6600 – 2720QM, AMD HD6970M, 32GB 1600CL9 RAM, Arc100 480GB SSD
Oh I was referring to the whole tineti and plaync network matter, but here it is
@ sirsquishy
Microsoft Windows [Version 6.1.7601]
Copyright © 2009 Microsoft Corporation. All rights reserved.C:\Users\Jeff Sher>tracert 206.127.158.1
Tracing route to p4-23-c0-ncdc-pub.plaync.net [206.127.158.1]
over a maximum of 30 hops:1 1 ms <1 ms 1 ms 192.168.1.1
2 15 ms 17 ms 9 ms L100.LSANCA-DSL-59.verizon-gni.net [98.119.43.13 11 ms 12 ms 13 ms G0-6-0-5.LSANCA-LCR-21.verizon-gni.net [130.81.
93.2]
4 11 ms 10 ms 14 ms so-6-0-0-0.LAX01-BB-RTR1.verizon-gni.net [130.8
.29.124]
5 62 ms 61 ms 62 ms 0.xe-4-0-3.XL3.CHI13.ALTER.NET [152.63.64.118]
6 65 ms 63 ms 62 ms TenGigE0-4-1-0.GW2.CHI13.ALTER.NET [152.63.65.2
9]
7 60 ms 60 ms 62 ms tinet-gw.customer.alter.net [152.179.92.6]
8 251 ms 249 ms 249 ms xe-7-3-2.fra23.ip4.tinet.net [141.136.110.97]
9 254 ms 254 ms 254 ms 89.149.164.42
10 250 ms 252 ms 248 ms 206-127-157-86.plaync.com [206.127.157.86]
11 296 ms 254 ms 297 ms p4-23-c0-ncdc-pub.plaync.net [206.127.158.1]Trace complete.
C:\Users\Jeff Sher>
This is your affected Hop, its even before tinet. the nice thing, you can call Verizon and have them do Head to head testing with Alternet since thats the main handoff going in Anets direction from you.
5 62 ms 61 ms 62 ms 0.xe-4-0-3.XL3.CHI13.ALTER.NET [152.63.64.118]
Laptop: M6600 – 2720QM, AMD HD6970M, 32GB 1600CL9 RAM, Arc100 480GB SSD
Your wasting your time posting your TRACE ROUTES Anet will deny it is their problem until it goes away.
Trace routes prove where the issue lays.
If its not anet, its not anet….its pretty black and white you know.
Laptop: M6600 – 2720QM, AMD HD6970M, 32GB 1600CL9 RAM, Arc100 480GB SSD
Hard to say at this point, but if changing the load your GPU has to work with doesn’t affect the fps, your issue is probably in the CPU. That’s what’s limiting the performance in this game anyways, it requires a miracle from your processor.
So true. And I don’t think anyone should be running this game with ultra settings at this point.
FXAA should be disabled
Reflections need to be sky/terrain only.
Char limit should be Low or Medium (This is VERY VERY VERY CPU driven, the higher this setting the more work your cpu MUST perform)
Char quality should be Medium or High (semi CPU limiting)
High Res textures should be disabled
Which is why I wanted to see his ingame settings. he could also be running vSync with the Fram Limiter (Both those options enabled, weird things happen)
Laptop: M6600 – 2720QM, AMD HD6970M, 32GB 1600CL9 RAM, Arc100 480GB SSD
post a screenshot of your ingame settings.
Laptop: M6600 – 2720QM, AMD HD6970M, 32GB 1600CL9 RAM, Arc100 480GB SSD
ISP agents said they don’t know anything about this, neither do their specialists :X
From windows command prompt issue the following
tracert 206.127.158.1
when completed right click and choose mark. Highlight all the text then right click again. and paste it here.
Laptop: M6600 – 2720QM, AMD HD6970M, 32GB 1600CL9 RAM, Arc100 480GB SSD
That’s pretty much as I suspected, my Q6600 would usually stay at ~45 fps in solo PvE/dungeons. For me 45 fps is “enough”, as in enough to bring fluid motion impression. Let’s not derail this thread into how many fps the human eye can recognize, but I’m pretty confident in saying that vast majority of gamers would be fine with 65 fps. That was the whole point of my post, some AMD chips can bring gameplay that is smooth enough (exluding zergs and whatnot). If the player is reaally tight on money (student without a job and possibly even a ton of loan or a kid whose parents can’t afford to give him much, for example) and AMD system is to be found way cheaper, there’s no denying that you can get away with AMD system. I know this, you know this too, I’m sure. Of course there’s also no denying that Intel is still most likely going to win, maybe even on bang for the buck section. I personally am a student but I have a job so I could save up some to get a 4670K to get away from most of the trouble.
And seeing your Intel rig in your sig, I have no clue what that tells me
Currently, my ONLY complaint about AMD is the poor low end performance we see in ‘zerg’ like activity. like you said, i feel that 60~fps is more then acceptable for highs.
But, I find that 20FPS (even low) is about my tolerance point. It still feels fluid and I dont see that ‘jerking’ sensation. On AMD this is just not possible.
Now, that is not ‘exactly’ AMD’s fault. Anet decided to build GW2 using a single thread to render ALL dynamic event content (Player activities). And that is what drives this game. AMD just doesnt do this well.
If they were to break that render thread into 2 or 3 processes, there would be minimal differences between AMD and Intel for this game.
Laptop: M6600 – 2720QM, AMD HD6970M, 32GB 1600CL9 RAM, Arc100 480GB SSD
until the OP reveals his CPU we won’t know how to help him.
and Mr FlyingBee, STOP with your banter. you are doing NOTHING but Hi-Jacking threads at this point.
Man I wish there was an ignore/Block Feature on this forum.
Heh? Hi-Jacking threads?
Look i just get mad when users say that AMD is really bad – because it is not true
And if you have bulldozer and Gigabyte board you can do this1. Unparking cores
2. Bios- settings
1 Core per Module (1 core per CU)
OC to 4.8-5.2Ghz and GW2 will run really good…
3. Buldozer fix for Win 7Also you can do (1 core per CU) with other boards but you need to do it other way….
You just hi-jacked this thread to start a AMD vs Intel War.
Please stop, your looking very childish now.
I’m sorry, but I kinda see FlyingBee’s point here. If the processor has an AMD logo on it it doesn’t mean it’s gonna suck for GW2 (and I don’t mean literally the letters would have an effect on performace, I’m not that stupid). For example FX-9590 isn’t even that much worse in single thread performance than 2500K. Granted 9590 is the top of the line and 2500K is getting outdated, but it has been proven many times that even 4770K doesn’t bring adequate performance for the most demanding situation (this is just info for those that don’t know) so that specific AMD can hold it’s ground. Heck, my old Q6600 performed pretty nicely, excluding zergs, and it has about half of the ST performance over that of 9590.
sirsquishy is mainly right every time and when I see his posts I know there’s gonna be some cold hard facts, but this is just something to consider. AMD is a valid option, although not even as adequate for the smoothest gameplay as Intel. And this is coming from an Intel guy.
I cant really comment on the FX-9xxx series CPUs. I really want to, just dont have any samples to testify against.
BUT, I do have a FX-8350 that was actually upgraded (heh) to an i3-2120. That FX-8350 would never get more then 65FPS under any circumstances. I disabled the 2nd Core per module, enabled Core unparking, even pinned the gw2.exe process at high. And the Performance was locked at 65FPS. The GPU at the time was an R9-270 (which is in my media center now…Glory/awesome 4k-LCD at 65"!).
But as soon as I swapped in the Intel i3-2120 and Motherboard, and re-ran my tests with the same ‘fixes’ the system would jump to 90FPS. Then I swapped in a R7-260x, so I could rebuild my media center…thats where the FX8350 went, and the performance with the i3 remains at about 90fps.
So, that is what I have been going on here.
FX8350 vs i3-2120.
Phenom-ii 965BE (OC to 4.1) vs i5-4670K(not OC)
an in EVERY Scenario Intel wins, 2:1 and in the lows 3:1 (Low on the FX was 8FPS, on the i3 pins at 18FPS on fully queued maps)
So, im sorry, but you can keep your AMD cpus for single threaded applications. Intel wins.
And this is coming from a long time hard AMD fan. Heck I still only run AMD GPUs…so what does that tell ya?
Laptop: M6600 – 2720QM, AMD HD6970M, 32GB 1600CL9 RAM, Arc100 480GB SSD
Anet needs better servers…peak times and at random times I lag so much yet my internet is fine.
Agreed. Every night (peak time for me PST), DC after DC. Error 7s.
Except for that this is not on Anet, its on one of the major ISPs that routes Backbone traffic….Level3.
Laptop: M6600 – 2720QM, AMD HD6970M, 32GB 1600CL9 RAM, Arc100 480GB SSD
until the OP reveals his CPU we won’t know how to help him.
and Mr FlyingBee, STOP with your banter. you are doing NOTHING but Hi-Jacking threads at this point.
Man I wish there was an ignore/Block Feature on this forum.
Heh? Hi-Jacking threads?
Look i just get mad when users say that AMD is really bad – because it is not true
And if you have bulldozer and Gigabyte board you can do this1. Unparking cores
2. Bios- settings
1 Core per Module (1 core per CU)
OC to 4.8-5.2Ghz and GW2 will run really good…
3. Buldozer fix for Win 7Also you can do (1 core per CU) with other boards but you need to do it other way….
You just hi-jacked this thread to start a AMD vs Intel War.
Please stop, your looking very childish now.
Laptop: M6600 – 2720QM, AMD HD6970M, 32GB 1600CL9 RAM, Arc100 480GB SSD
First, disable the frame limiter. its really only useful if your running a laptop or have heating issues.
Disabling Vertical Sync. I was playing with this setting last night and it costs about 8-12% performance, even on my i5-4670K system. So low end systems shouldn’t run this IMHO.
On my I3-2120 teamed with a R7-260x, 65FPS is easily obtainable. So I would expect as much with your setup, with the proper settings/Drivers.
*Edit – Forgot to mention the typical Software solutions, unpark your i3’ kitten threads, and download Process Lasso….or just set the priority of gw2.exe in your task manager to high whenever you launch the game. This will give a good boost to performance. But Unparking your Cores does more then anything else for software solutions.
Laptop: M6600 – 2720QM, AMD HD6970M, 32GB 1600CL9 RAM, Arc100 480GB SSD
(edited by ikereid.4637)
I’d just buy the new laptop lol, always nice to have more than one machine haha
haha i know what ya mean. But im already sporting like 6 machines I bounce between.
Laptop: M6600 – 2720QM, AMD HD6970M, 32GB 1600CL9 RAM, Arc100 480GB SSD
I doubt you’ll find an intel board for an AMD designed laptop. You’d have to get a whole new everything, so much so that you might as well just hop on Amazon or Ebay and buy the intel version.
yea ive been searching, and i found a couple options. but they are the cost of a new laptop :-)
Laptop: M6600 – 2720QM, AMD HD6970M, 32GB 1600CL9 RAM, Arc100 480GB SSD
My point though is that a GT 540M can still hold it’s own well enough to be considered. Though not as much as a newer generation but you know, it’s one of those things to think of if you want the El Cheapo-book
thats for sure, but only outlet or 2nd hand.
heck even my dv6’s that are rocking a HD6550 in one and a HD7690 and a APU (stock 1.5Ghz, OC’d to 2.9Ghz) holds its own. Rocks 65FPS at 720P and 45-50FPS at 1600×900 (1080p isnt worth the perf loss).
Just wish I could find an Intel MB for one of my DV6’s and slap in a i5 teamed with a 7690M. Would be interesting :-)
Paid 250 for the laptop + 125 for the 1080p matte LCD :-)
Laptop: M6600 – 2720QM, AMD HD6970M, 32GB 1600CL9 RAM, Arc100 480GB SSD
I wouldn’t consider a GT 540M in a new laptop today either. Not even a 640M since it’s a rebrand. 740M or 750M.
And this statement was my entire point :-)
Laptop: M6600 – 2720QM, AMD HD6970M, 32GB 1600CL9 RAM, Arc100 480GB SSD
It’s still good for what it does. Just play auto detect settings and in most cases it’ll give you enjoyable levels.
considering the age of GW2’s Engine, the age of that GPU vs the cost of it STILL vs other options.
I would not even consider a 540M on a new laptop today. Unless the laptop was 350 or less, like the OP is getting his for.
Laptop: M6600 – 2720QM, AMD HD6970M, 32GB 1600CL9 RAM, Arc100 480GB SSD
the 540M is a pretty weak GPU. Spend the extra on a 760 or 770m
Ahem.
Thanks for confirming what I said in the thread.
540M is weak if you want to play in res above 1366×768. Even at 720p you cant expect more then 40FPS.
in that video he was getting 24/25FPS.
Laptop: M6600 – 2720QM, AMD HD6970M, 32GB 1600CL9 RAM, Arc100 480GB SSD
yea, when your GPU spikes its because the GPU is waiting on the CPU to catch up.
This is normal.
Laptop: M6600 – 2720QM, AMD HD6970M, 32GB 1600CL9 RAM, Arc100 480GB SSD
So I’ve been running the Teq fight with TTS, hoping to get my “Power Play” achievement all finished up, almost had it too. But my game client crashes at least once during each Teq fight, basically denying me my achievement. Luckily, I manage to join a party member and still get my loot. But I’m really trying for that achievement. This has also happened to me during the Jormag fight, though not recently. I turned down my settings to “Best Performance”, hoping that might help, however it did not. I regularly run the game really well on High settings. What else could be causing these crashes?
Depending on how fast your system is, you might want to consider turning down your character Limit and character quality during the Teq fights. TTS will fully Queue a map, and if your system cannot cache objects out of ram fast enough, gw2.exe will use more ram then its supposed to. Causing the crashing you are seeing.
even on my system, it happens. And it only happens when you run char limit/quality on max.
Laptop: M6600 – 2720QM, AMD HD6970M, 32GB 1600CL9 RAM, Arc100 480GB SSD
Hey there,
This is a known issue that I can only advise submitting a bug report about or posting on the bug forums. We don’t have an ETA for a fix, but I can only advise playing with the “Normal” UI for the time being.
Sorry about that!
The issue with the normal UI, when using Eyefinity, or surround, the Elements get all out of place. Only using Small fixes it.
But Small kinda breaks the TP.
So its a double edge sword :-)
But, you’d think that Anet wants to have their Money Maker looking the best in all situations over ANYTHING else. I mean, if one cannot read the gem store how can you expect them to buy from it :-)
Laptop: M6600 – 2720QM, AMD HD6970M, 32GB 1600CL9 RAM, Arc100 480GB SSD
When you get it, make sure you do a clean install/system restore before using it. You NEVER know what ‘other’ software might be loaded on it.
the update all your drivers.
Laptop: M6600 – 2720QM, AMD HD6970M, 32GB 1600CL9 RAM, Arc100 480GB SSD
Awww… I’m fully satisfied on 1376×768 resolution and medium/high setting (Shadows off). Did You tested fps on these settings?
I’m buying this laptop from “second hand” and It is good opportunity, because It’s pretty cheap (<300 Euro)
2nd hand for 300 is a pretty good deal for that hardware in all honesty.
If your fine with the 720p resolution, then youll be happy with it.
Laptop: M6600 – 2720QM, AMD HD6970M, 32GB 1600CL9 RAM, Arc100 480GB SSD
Look, the CPU in that laptop is OK. the 540M is weak in regards to other options. You are spending about 750~ on that Laptop yea? (I really hope not more).
Drop another 250~, upgrade to a i5 300 series CPU and a 760 or 770 GPU. You can opt to stay with the 720p screen if you want, but this way if you EVER want to run at 1080p (for ANYTHING, not jut GW2) youll have the power to do it.
GW2 is heavily CPU bound. But you need a modest GPU to drive some of the effects, and the higher the res you push the better the GPU you need. So please keep that in mind.
On one of the ‘many’ laptops I have access to, the one with a 540M is teamed with a 720p screen and a i3-2300~ something. When I was burning that laptop in I ran GW2 on it for a few days. Peak FPS for me was 35~ on ultra settings (Shadows medium, reflect on sky, Sampling native).
Laptop: M6600 – 2720QM, AMD HD6970M, 32GB 1600CL9 RAM, Arc100 480GB SSD
Thanks, but this question is directly to users of that hardware man. I already saw all these tests.
I have that hardware……
Laptop: M6600 – 2720QM, AMD HD6970M, 32GB 1600CL9 RAM, Arc100 480GB SSD
I’m askin about 540m.
Is anyone playing GW2 on on specification like this?
I answered specifically about the 540M…..
Dont waste your money on it.
http://www.notebookcheck.net/NVIDIA-GeForce-GT-540M.41715.0.html
All those benchmarks are running 1366×768 for the resolution. Any higher of the resolution and the card BOMBS.
In general, the performance of the 540M lies between the Radeon HD 5650 and 5730 in our first benchmark tests. Therefore, the 540M is about 10% faster than the GT 435M using DDR3 graphics memory.
Paired with a fast CPU, demanding games of 2010 should run fluently in medium to high details and SXGA (1280×1024) resolution. In our tests, for example, Call of Duty: Black Ops and StarCraft 2 ran fluently in high details and 1360×768. More gaming benchmarks can be found below. Demanding games released in 2011 like Anno 2070 or Skyrim will only run fluent in low to medium detail settings.
Laptop: M6600 – 2720QM, AMD HD6970M, 32GB 1600CL9 RAM, Arc100 480GB SSD
the 540M is a pretty weak GPU. Spend the extra on a 760 or 770m
Laptop: M6600 – 2720QM, AMD HD6970M, 32GB 1600CL9 RAM, Arc100 480GB SSD
until the OP reveals his CPU we won’t know how to help him.
and Mr FlyingBee, STOP with your banter. you are doing NOTHING but Hi-Jacking threads at this point.
Man I wish there was an ignore/Block Feature on this forum.
Laptop: M6600 – 2720QM, AMD HD6970M, 32GB 1600CL9 RAM, Arc100 480GB SSD
In Reality; your system is pretty weak.
2,00 GB RAM
AMD Phenom II X4 955 Processor (3.20 Ghz)
ATI Radeon HD 5700 Series
Windows 7
You only have 2GB of ram (you SHOULD be running 4GB at the very least today) and your running an AMD CPU, which is pretty weak when it comes to single threaded processes.
I would say, upgrade to 4GB or 8GB ram (which ever your MB supports) and start there.
Laptop: M6600 – 2720QM, AMD HD6970M, 32GB 1600CL9 RAM, Arc100 480GB SSD
Here is my tracert to the SoR server. I have been getting lag every 5 minutes or so, and my wife as well on her WoW account, right about the same time. I’ve contacted my ISP, run speed tests and what not, and everything is fine on my end.
C:\>tracert 64.25.38.165
Tracing route to 64.25.38.165 over a maximum of 30 hops
1 <1 ms <1 ms <1 ms x.×.×.x
2 9 ms 9 ms 7 ms Removed
3 10 ms 9 ms 11 ms Removed
4 11 ms 12 ms 11 ms te-8-2.car2.Pittsburgh3.Level3.net [4.49.110.69]5 42 ms 42 ms 45 ms ae-3-3.ebr1.Chicago1.Level3.net [4.69.135.250]
6 44 ms 43 ms 43 ms ae-1-100.ebr2.Chicago1.Level3.net [4.69.151.178]7 53 ms 49 ms 43 ms ae-5-5.ebr2.Chicago2.Level3.net [4.69.140.194]
8 45 ms 43 ms 43 ms ae-14-14.ebr1.Dallas1.Level3.net [4.69.151.118]9 52 ms 43 ms 44 ms ae-61-61.csw1.Dallas1.Level3.net [4.69.151.125]
10 * 46 ms 43 ms ae-1-60.edge2.Dallas1.Level3.net [4.69.145.11]
11 43 ms 43 ms 42 ms 4.59.197.34
12 43 ms 43 ms 46 ms 64.25.32.9
13 43 ms 43 ms 42 ms 64.25.32.26
14 43 ms 44 ms 44 ms 64.25.32.82
15 * * * Request timed out.
16 * * * Request timed out.
17 * * * Request timed out.
18 * * * Request timed out.
19 * * * Request timed out.
20 * * * Request timed out.
21 * * * Request timed out.
22 * * * Request timed out.
23 * * * Request timed out.
24 * * * Request timed out.
25 * * * Request timed out.
26 * * * Request timed out.
27 * * * Request timed out.
28 * * * Request timed out.
29 * * * Request timed out.
30 * * * Request timed out.Trace complete.
Jump 10 has a *, not sure what that means.
5 42 ms 42 ms 45 ms ae-3-3.ebr1.Chicago1.Level3.net [4.69.135.250]
That is where your Latency starts.
the * means that the Hop was unable to respond to your NHRP request (trace).
One * means a possibility of Dropped packets, 3 *’s means that the NHRP protocol is disabled and that hop will NEVER respond to that type of ICMP traffic.
Laptop: M6600 – 2720QM, AMD HD6970M, 32GB 1600CL9 RAM, Arc100 480GB SSD
Microsoft Windows [Version 6.1.7600]
Copyright © 2009 Microsoft Corporation. All rights reserved.C:\Users\Manuelito>tracert 64.25.38.96
Tracing route to 64.25.38.96 over a maximum of 30 hops
1 1 ms <1 ms 1 ms 192.168.254.254
2 25 ms 26 ms 25 ms
3 27 ms 25 ms 26 ms 222.127.228.90
4 26 ms 26 ms 32 ms 120.28.4.137
5 43 ms 39 ms 39 ms 120.28.1.237
6 177 ms 174 ms 174 ms 120.28.0.54
7 173 ms 190 ms 172 ms xe-10-2-0.edge2.Seattle3.Level3.net [4.59.234.37
]
8 215 ms 213 ms 216 ms ae-32-52.ebr2.Seattle1.Level3.net [4.69.147.182]9 220 ms 214 ms 213 ms ae-2-2.ebr2.Denver1.Level3.net [4.69.132.54]
10 213 ms 214 ms 219 ms ae-1-100.ebr1.Denver1.Level3.net [4.69.151.181]11 218 ms 214 ms 213 ms ae-2-2.ebr2.Dallas1.Level3.net [4.69.132.106]
12 216 ms 222 ms 216 ms ae-72-72.csw2.Dallas1.Level3.net [4.69.151.141]13 * 215 ms 214 ms ae-2-70.edge2.Dallas1.Level3.net [4.69.145.75]
14 215 ms 213 ms 214 ms 4.59.197.34
15 212 ms 212 ms 212 ms 64.25.32.9
16 216 ms 222 ms 218 ms 64.25.32.26
17 214 ms 260 ms 218 ms 64.25.32.82
18 * * * Request timed out.
19 * * * Request timed out.
20 * * * Request timed out.
21 * * * Request timed out.
22 * * * Request timed out.
23 * * * Request timed out.
24 * * * Request timed out.
25 * * * Request timed out.
26 * * * Request timed out.
27 * * * Request timed out.
28 * * * Request timed out.
29 * * * Request timed out.
30 * * * Request timed out.Trace complete.
what seems to be the prob?
6 177 ms 174 ms 174 ms 120.28.0.54
^ is your issue. Looks like a route at your ISP. Give them a call and have them investigate.
Laptop: M6600 – 2720QM, AMD HD6970M, 32GB 1600CL9 RAM, Arc100 480GB SSD
Hello,
i am wondering about win 8.1 performance in GW2.I saw that BF4 gets great boost from win 8.1 on FX CPUs.
Did any one tried Win 8.1 vs win 7?
Any benchmarks? Problems with win 8.1?Thanks for your help
Since your generalizing, over all Win8.1 SHOULD be faster then Win7SP1.
1. Better and updated memory management
2. Better support for multi-core CPUs
3. as you mentioned, DX11.2 (though, I have yet to see any real performance gains based on that one feature)
4. updated prefetch and caching.
The faults lay with;
1. Driver Design (I am still running into support issues with AMD and win8.1, in alot of cases Win7 is performing better with Graphic software – Both CAD like and gaming – then in Win8.1)
2. Application support with Win8.1 Features. With newer designed software the issues aren’t that bad. But old, legacy software, was made to ‘just run’ in win8.1, taking no advantages of its features. GW2 is one of those types of applications. So the Performance different between Win7 and Win8.1 between these types of applications and about the same.
3. There are more, I just can’t remember my laundry list on this topic.
But, I have dropped Win8.1 for now. (AND Server 2012). I will remain running Win7SP1 and Win2008R2 SP1 until the next run of Workstation/Server OS hit the street, I have hopes its a ‘fix’ for the new editions. The performance gains between Win8 and Win7 is so negligible that is no real reason to upgrade to it.
Laptop: M6600 – 2720QM, AMD HD6970M, 32GB 1600CL9 RAM, Arc100 480GB SSD
and…4days since the last update from an Anet Employee.
Laptop: M6600 – 2720QM, AMD HD6970M, 32GB 1600CL9 RAM, Arc100 480GB SSD
Let me summarize your issue;
Guildwars2 thinks your system has a HD 6800 series Graphic Card, and GW2.exe is talking to the ATI driver atiumdag.dll. Hense this output from the crash log;
- Crash <—*
Exception: c0000005
Memory at address 00064007 could not be read
App: Gw2.exe
Pid: 4504
Cmdline:
BaseAddr: 00400000
ProgramId: 101
Build: 16541
Module: atiumdag.dll
When: 2013-01-27T00:47:46Z
Uptime: 0 days 3:10:45
Flags: 0
and
- DirectX Device Info <—*
VendorId = 0×1002
DeviceId = 0×6738
Version = 8.17.0010.1172
Description = AMD Radeon HD 6800 Series
Compat = 0×00000000
VidMem = 737 MB
Now I am not sure if you have something onboard thats integrated or maybe a 2ndary gpu installed in your system. But that issue needs to be resolved.
And no where in your crash logs is a Nvidia Graphics Card ever referenced.
Laptop: M6600 – 2720QM, AMD HD6970M, 32GB 1600CL9 RAM, Arc100 480GB SSD
Ok, as a work around try to use a VPN connection.
http://www.vpnbook.com/freevpn
then setup gw2.exe to use port 80 for all communication.
This will put this traffic through a tunnel that your ISP cannot see. And unless the ISP rate-Limits and controls PPTP/GRE-47 and OpenVPN Packets you shouldnt have many issues playing the game.
Note, this is NOT secure and should only be used as a work around until your ISP gets their issue fixed. DO NOT use the VPN for ANYTHING else other then GW2. I do not know who has access, or what they can see, at the end of the tunnel. So please keep that in mind.
I Suggest using a VPN tunnel that terminates into the US.
Laptop: M6600 – 2720QM, AMD HD6970M, 32GB 1600CL9 RAM, Arc100 480GB SSD
well your CPU does not have an iGPU. So i recommend uninstalling your Nvidia and AMD drivers from programs and features. Reboot into safe mode and do a driver sweeper cleanup, then reboot into normal mode and reinstall your Nvidia drivers.
Unless you have a 2nd GPU that’s the 6800 series, something weird is going on with your desktop. And that could cause the application to crash.
Laptop: M6600 – 2720QM, AMD HD6970M, 32GB 1600CL9 RAM, Arc100 480GB SSD
This is what the dxdiag shows :
what CPU do you have?
Laptop: M6600 – 2720QM, AMD HD6970M, 32GB 1600CL9 RAM, Arc100 480GB SSD

