doing dungeons and pvp with various class and builds.
it’s probably a necessary evil though. Anet need to make the game rewarding for people who actually pay them money.
So making things buy-able with gold, enables the credit card players easy access to buy the things they want. Those players are after all the one who keeps the game running.
I think I agree, the system is kind of awful.
For a long while, I don’t bother with many of GW2’s content because I think they are unrewarding. Like I don’t even do sPvP before because they dont’ generate gold.
I recently started doing sPvP and realize how much fun I miss out.
I think Anet did a good job to add some rewards for their content and that helps people try different things. The dungeon track and the new dungeon collection “assasin’s accessory” is what get me to try pvp.
I obviously understand the article. Like I remember last halloween I found out I can make 30 gold per hour by just killing candy corn.
So if I want to be rewarded, I should spend all my time killing candy corn.
But in the end, I just give up. There are many ways to make really good money, but it just mind boggling boring. I already spend enough of my life farming in this game. I just arn’t going to do it any more.
I can get rewarded by having fun, and that is good enough for me.
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I kind of just browse over it.
I used to think the same way the author does. But after a while I reailize I can do anything in pve to make 10 gold per hour.
If you dont’ think 10 gold per hour by doing what ever you want is good enough, I have nothing more to say.
Obviously you can do boring stuff like spend all your time killing candy corn or opening a ballizion number of wintersday gift.
But if you found that fun, go ahead. I’m already making really good money by playing anyway I want.
Well, but you AREN’T playing how you want…you’re just farming…and nobody really WANTS to farm…that was kind of the author’s point.
No you don’t understand. I mean I can do anything pve. Like dungeon, EOTM, map completion, silverwaste, drytop, fractal, tequalt, even key farming, harvesting. And make 10 gold per hour.
If you want to call every pve activities in this game farming, I have nothing more to say. Like what else are you going to do when you logon?
Only thing that dont’ reward good gold is spvp and wvw. And even if spvp dont ’reward anything many people do it. And I actually do spvp just to finish my dungeon collection. So that is rewarding in another sense.
I kind of just browse over it.
I used to think the same way the author does. But after a while I reailize I can do anything in pve to make 10 gold per hour.
The only catch is you do need to spend sometime to study guild war economic. Take for example a while ago I realize I can make 6 gold per skill point simply by promoting tier 1 wood. That being said the price crashed now. Basically you have to understand how to convert all those currency.
If you dont’ think 10 gold per hour by doing what ever you want is good enough, I have nothing more to say.
Obviously you can do boring stuff like spend all your time killing candy corn or opening a ballizion number of wintersday gift.
But if you found that fun, go ahead. I’m already making really good money by playing anyway I want.
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If you guys want to talk about FFIV, why not go to FFIV forums. If you dont’ have an account for that game. There are other public forums you can go to.
And those forums provide better information anyway. I visit them myself regularly.
how many people is in a fight in GW1’s GvG?
I think they should remove the server thing.
And make it in to a mega guild vs mega guild thing.
I think some dev talked about it a while back. But not sure where that is heading.
The thing to me is I honestly don’t care if my server wins, but maybe if it’s my guild, I’ll care a bit more.
I don’t really like legendaries, I think the effect is way over the top.
I like things like chiropodea or Immobulus. Interesting skins but not way over the top with effects.
If I have to pick, I like the frostfang or jugglenaut
I don’t think Guild Wars 2 dungeons are par or sub par. I never implied it.
Alright. I somehow get the idea from your previous post dungeon just aren’t important in this game.
Maybe I’m reading too much over the line.
I generally really like dungeon in this game. And many of my guild mates do too.
Completely irrelevant though. The game you’re describing is still a trinity game, based around dungeons and raids for the most part and for a lot of us, we’re here to get away from that.
ok GW2 dont’ have raids, I grow to accept that.
But are you suggesting GW2 dungeon are subpar or suppose to be subpar to other games?
I’m saying I don’t want to play a trinity game. I don’t like fixed roles. I’ve never particularly liked dungeons anyway, because I wanted an MMO I could play for the open world instead of instances. I mean the thing that defines an MMO is the open world. Lots of games have instances that aren’t MMOs.
So why should the focus of games be on dungeons and raids, which are instanced content? It wasn’t what I wanted and it is one of the reasons I’m here.
If you mean people can get good gear without doing dungeon, “that’s fine”. So people aren’t forced to do it if they don’t want.
But it’s a bit disheartened if you mean GW2 dungeon is subpar. Especially hearing from someone who is so passionate on defending GW2 for the past 2 years.
Me personally I think GW2 dungeon is pretty good. Coupled in GW2’s combat mechanic. I find it pretty interesting.
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Completely irrelevant though. The game you’re describing is still a trinity game, based around dungeons and raids for the most part and for a lot of us, we’re here to get away from that.
ok GW2 dont’ have raids, I grow to accept that.
But are you suggesting GW2 dungeon are subpar or suppose to be subpar to other games?
I think G600 is a really good mouse, it’s just a few of the button isn’t very functional for me. Means I press it and do nothing.
I check the forums around the web and many people says the same thing.
So if you get it, hopefully the one you get won’t have one with button problem.
A bit hard to tell, because Anet dont’ release population information. And the mega system put everyone on the same map, so there are always people around.
Only concrete data is there isn’t much drop on sales. So people probably staying around, at least the paying people do.
I’m in tier 2 wvw. Activities have been a bit low in wvw, though I’m not much of a wvw players. There are always people in EOTM though. For sPvP the queue time is around 2 minutes for unranked arena, so that’s pretty good. I don’t know about rank arena since I dont’ do them.
probably dont’ really matter to me.
I saw someone have full map completion in 30 hours played. Compare that to the several thousands playing hours I have.
Pretty much only 1% of the time I actually spend not being lvl80.
And I think I made like 50 tome of knowledge this week. So another free lvl80 I suppose.
Actually, technically right now another market that could be controlled (if funds available) would be the recent bltc skins that were removed from the vendor. Course there is the thing of people holding in their banks, but I wonder if john watches those markets more closely for anything.
well bltc skins is actually a gamble. You see what Anet did this wintersday. Those first year wintersday skin go for 1000 gold before now can be bought for 150 gold.
Anet could reintroduce and have done for a few of them.
The problem with manipulation is some people have too many gold. I probably have in the region of 25k gold and I’m not even much of a flipper. most of my gold is farmed.
I talked to a few of my guildmates and many of them have similar if not more money than me. If there are so many rich people in 1 guild, I’m sure there are many many rich people in the GW2 universe.
One of my guildmates bought 200 dwayna for 1 gold an year ago. He is an instant 15k gold club.
With all those rich people, a single one of them is enough to buy out everything and bump up the price.
Wings of dwayna and shadow of grenth are reintroduced this wintersday. The price dont’ crumble but even went up more. In a few days a few hundred supply is gone.
Im’ tempted to buy out some shadow of grenth too. But decided not to. Seriously it only cost a few hundred gold to buy out a stack of it, and I’m sure many people have that kind of money.
edit: screw it, just bought 100 grenth recipe. I dont’ think it’s a good buy because it’s not a popular back like dwayna is. But whatever. Worse case is I loss a few hundred gold.
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Thanks Wanze for making an item much more expensive than before. Totally unneeded.
If you wanted one, you could have bought one for less than 1g for 18 months.
What about all those people that had a recipe listed and i finally gave them the amount they asked for during the initial buy out? Lots of happy chaps.
And what makes you think that regular demand wouldnt have depleted the initial supply on the tp by now?
I dont want one otherwise I would have bought it long ago. But there are new people joining the game every day. And some of them might be interested in collecting all recipes for whatever reason. They must now pay over 5g instead of like 75s.
Also who cares about the people who finally sold their stuff (for an overpriced amount)? They were to greedy with their asked price to begin with if it did not sell for months without your help.
you probably havn’t check the price of other recipe if you think 5 gold is too much.
You should see what those flippers did this wintersday to the backpiece recipe.
They bought a few hundred and those 20 gold recipe become 70 gold.
the problem is almost no mobs drop money.
I think some mobs drop a few copper. and with the gilded infusion you get a bit more copper, which isn’t worth it.
I’m pretty sure it don’t give any bonus for dungeon end. Correct me if I’m wrong.
gilded infusion used to be good when boss actually drop money. But it is removed.
I have problem with a couple of button on logitech g600 too.
I dont’ think it’s just me. I suggest using a new model of logitech or naga.
I can’t remember the last time any monster actually drop money so I would say the magic infusion is better.
If you have high magic find, I suggest the karma though. Since if you already have like 300% magic find, 20% more isn’t much.
^ Probably because Anet can’t balance it. I don’t think death match or capture the flag will be remotely balanced with the current combat system.
And I believe they said they actually going to take out some maps because of balance problem in ranked arena.
that sounds very lazy. Other games are able to have multiple modes and Guild Wars 2 can’t?
Plus I hope that they will only pull maps from Ranked Arena and not Practice. Or give us something to replace them with.
I don’t think it’s a fair comparison. Other games combat system are much more simple. And many of them uses the holy trinity so every class kind of rely on each other.
GW2’s combat is probably one of the most fun out of the mmorpg i played.
^ Probably because Anet can’t balance it. I don’t think death match or capture the flag will be remotely balanced with the current combat system.
And I believe they said they actually going to take out some maps because of balance problem in ranked arena.
PvP going esports:
Make sPvP free to play to bring new players in.
Make new class every month only for sPvP so won’t waste time incorporate new class in PvE.
Win sPvP match to unlock the new class or buy it with gems.
Don’t forget to sell hats.
At the beginning of match, players get to choose class 1 by 1 depend on what the other team is picking.
Merge practice, unrank, and rank arena, since lesser mode means better pool of players for match making.
Monthly PvP tournament with prize going up for $1,000,000.
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Winter is coming.
Invasion of Jormag expansion.
New player race Kodan.
New raid with the corrupted quaggan King.
Cantha expansion!
New player class!
Monk, Ninja, Samurai!
Make it happen!
Winter is coming.
Invasion of Jormag Expansion!
Oh ya and Kodan going to be the new race.
I always troll people I’m rabbit rank. So you never know if people are telling you the truth without checking.
That being said I did see a bunch of high rank finisher as a rank 30.
I don’t think anyone know for sure. Only thing we can do is guess.
Base on an interview with Colin on PAX, my guess is not any time soon.
The first 3 minutes address the topic. That being said it is last year. So design philosophy may change.
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@ Teutos
I think that’s the whole point we are having this discussion. Anet can’t address the problems without increasing the queue time.
Anet wont’ need to match solo players against 5 man team, if there are another 5 man teams to match against.
Currently the queue is roughly 2 minutes. There are probably not that many pool to choose from, that’s why the match up isn’t exactly ideal.
I’m not sure if Anet realize. Teamq players wins majority of fight against soloq players.
So if Anet can’t put teamq players against teamq players, because of queue time or whatever. Why not add a handicap system if teamq players are playing against soloq players.
For example a group of solo players will receive “x” amount less damage against a team of 5. Since Anet have all the datas, they should be able to determine how much handicap is fair. And could be adjusted so both side have roughly 50% chance of winning.
PvP is suppose to be competitive. I’m not sure what is so competitive about a esports 5 star team against a bunch of solo queue players which have no chance of winning.
I thought the vendor will only trade you some green gear.
I dont’ know why you would do that though.
If it’s me, I’ll just craft another back piece.
i just can’t play today. I’ll wait a while to see if things change.
stop being so harsh on other people. It could be regional problem.
I rarely get lag. But is having bad lag today.
Not sure what’s going on.
dont’ you just harvest them like normal plant?
I thought you can get them from hervesting certain stuff.
The new class is death knight.
If you didn’t realize Rytlock jumps into the whole on the ground. I’m sorry to tell you, but Rytlock died.
Fortunately he come back to life and become a death knight. The next living story serves as an introduction to the new class.
I just started pvping and doing unranked arena, and manged to get high win/loss ratio because I started as a turret engineer. I later decided to try other classes. But regardless I already accumulated many wins.
Today I realized how brutal my schedule is. I loss 5 match in a row, 2 of them are premade, 1 is a group of 3, and another I loss 500-0 on courtyard.
Anyway, I’m heading back to 50% win ratio. Which is probably a good thing. Hopefully the matchup won’t be as brutal when I go down. And I really need to go down so I can start playing other classes. Those wins my turret engineer accumulated is coming back to hunt me.
I am making so much money now. I dont ’even farm now and I make as much money compare to 1 year ago when I actually farm.
More gold from dungeon, new champ bag, inscription salvaging.
Anything you do in pve is rewarding you with money.
Just want to follow up.
You “can” get the traits from defending arah. But the wizard must be there. You can’t get the traits for defending if the wizard is not there.
Also besides killing the wizard, you must also finish the defend events before you can get the traits.
I just tried it. Thanks everyone.
I thought deleting OPs was not possible.
#themoreyouknow
ya I was just complaining about premades and tells my teamates I’ll go afk. A terrible thing to do, I’m sorry. I didn’t actually go afk, just slacking and not doing much.
got 2 straight match against premade, 1 normal games, and another one against group of 3 which laugh at me when I died with their phoenix finisher when I’m rank 31.
anyway I give up complaining. The forum already have enough of it. Dont’ think 1 more makes a different.
It is not the defend event…. it is the capture/reclaim event that awards the trait.
yes I know. But for some weird reason many people says half a year ago you actually get the traits from defending.
http://www.reddit.com/r/Guildwars2/comments/2938vq/why_does_everyone_despise_defending_arah/
So either it dont’ and some people are making those up. Or Anet reverted the change for some reason.
Can Anet change the events? The maps are either always full so there are always peopele defending and lyssa/arah is never up.
Or the maps are empty so even when they are up, there are no one around. And no new people is ported in since its getting closed.
i dont’ know. depend on what your friend likes.
does your friend like pvp? the sPvP can be fun to play.
there’s a website called meta battle which shows some good build for pvp. i think gw2 pvp is quite good.
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I dont’ know. A bunch of people on reddit says you can get the traits now after they made the change.
I really can’t kill the wizard now. The defend is always successful and never failed. I don’t know how to get the traits.
I think someone said you can get the traits now for defending arah. You no longer have to kill the Arah wizard.
But I defend the events 2 times and never got the traits.
Basically I did the event defend the gates of arah. “Ensure that the pact holds the gates of Arah”. But never got the traits.
only things i am interested in seeing is, new weapons, traits , utility skills, elite skills
wvw improvements – castle upgrades and more blueprints
more pvp lvls
maybe a new class ..
stuff like that XD … at this point ill only play PVE if there is a item i really want lol the story does not do much for me anymore
I’m a bit in the opposite boat. The living story is the only thing that keeps me coming back. The other improvements you mentioned are just improvements that would actually rekindle my interest in the core game again and not just a story.
I think just a bit of diversity. There are all kind of players all like different things.
There are people who like instanced personal story like you. But there are also others which dont’ necessary like it that much.
I’m just asking for a bit diversity to cater to other crowd.
what is GvG like in GW1? Is it just regular spvp but only with guildmates?
I dont’ think any one mind more “instanced personal story”.
The question is where is the other stuff.
The only thing Anet pushed out recently is more instanced personal story. People just want a bit more diversity.
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So, we are heading into about 2 1/2 years of the game being released and we haven’t killed another Elder Dragon yet and we have 5 to go.
and dont’ forget about the egg…
dragons are making babies too…