Guild Wars 2

what we need , is shiro
if we get shiro, we viable as efffffffff

Is it impossible to beat a necro now as mallyx
it’s just so hard..

…rev can use most of the skills at it’s disposal in builds, except ventari.
that’s already really good in variety…
like you can go mallyx glint, you do well, mallyx shiro, you do well, shiro glint, you do well, dwarf glint you do well,
sword is great, shield is great, mace is great, axe is great, staff is great, hammer is great

now you look at other classes.

now it’s gonna be hell of a nightmare fighting another mallyx lol
basically who hit the corrupt on resistance in that 10 secs, who wins.

i got a longbow which i can’t use for my revenant…

this game has just achieved ultimate balance. everyone using the same thing.
only the more skilled team can win.

bunker war was never strong..

everything works well in PvE, so unless you are going for extremely speed run, there’s no need to play a warrior.
plus warrior is only good for organized run or with good players
if you want to carry a pug team with constant assured rezzes, or reflects or boon strip or w/e utility, you don’t want to pick a warrior.

tbh i prefer mobility

because teleport is op

i just tested it in HoTM, torment does apply poison but i’m not sure if it’s rampage vex that applied poison or the sigil

doesnt really matter tbh, that trait has 20 ICD, you have 33% chance already to apply torment, you will literally proc it every time even without the sigil

staff is stronk what are you talking about.

and you deal with condition just like how you deal with power, you dodge dem skillz.

DH has a trait that makes random attack on longbow knockback within range, and there’s an unblockable attack on longbow, so that attack will knockback you during block
and there’s also a trap that’s unblockable which will daze you if traited.

when rev go to mallyx, corrupt the resistance and stab, go shout>reaper>fear>5>4 =dead

well, play bunker mes or rev and carry the game

warrior does have taunt tho..

Ross Biddle.2367:

Asato.5479:

You know that the kitten has gone real when The Korean Gamer, Top Warrior NA requests a duel from you :P

Anyway, I’ll humiliate him with my Rev and shut his mouth… He just doesn’t know that he’s been carried all the time
http://imgur.com/8ARmcrS
http://imgur.com/hcnTDa8
http://imgur.com/6Zki6AS

Can I say that Rev is OP and been carrying Warriors?

Post the results @online.1278 after your duel
No… make a video!

So you want to take a build made for Conquest, then put it to test in a duel, and determine its strength and viability in conquest based on the results found in a duel.

Is this some sort of transcended Warrior logic or something?

clearly you don’t understand the situation.
Malpractice in certain post said he’s reckting meta classes on his warrior and having success while saying anyone who’s QQing are bad and incapable to play warrior properly.

Wait, what’s the point of this thread? are you trying to get legendary for free?
well, not happening.

Morwath.9817:

BashMePls.6294:

http://imgur.com/VMkuLKh
all solo queue in saphire

Sieg = Victory, for those who doesn’t know.

thank you, i was like “wha..i don’t..eh…wha..”

Looks like Anet welcomes exploitation and glitching

Malpractice.7850:

lighter.2708:

Malpractice.7850:

lighter.2708:

Malpractice.7850:

lighter.2708:

warrior can not stand any focus at all. they die way too easy in team fight.
in duels, you can probably put up a fight

Put up a fight? Look at my results. Change your build, your playstyle, and things will work just fine as it has for me. Adapt to the meta. Crush the meta.

I do just fine in both 1v1 and team situations. I cant think of any profession i’m having a difficult time with.

not to be rude, but you seriously knows nothing other then low MMR and upleveled wvwer.

“Not to sound rude” yet you make judgements that arent true.

I’m mystic dragon, i do just fine in pvp. I’ve been in T1 nearly my entire gw2 life, and have over 1k levels in it. I’m not some amateur. I’ve long time mained an engi, so my mechanics are sound. I have also done quite well in the raids, finishing the first wing. I guess that makes me poor skilled, too. And for the uplevel, i only have 8 characters, theyre all 80, and 4 of them are ascended.

Not to sound rude, but you just sound like maybe you’re bad at the class and dont know how to properly play the game in pvp, or wvw.

See how unproductive that statement is?
Do not try to discredit people for things you don’t know.

Edit: I never once said they didn’t have flaws. They do. I simply said I found a build that works, and works over a long period of 15 games I posted. I have never tanked my MMR. I have had a learning period with them. I am simply saying its not all doom and gloom as many in this thread are saying. The class is weak, sure, i guess. That doesn’t mean it cant be effective and win games, and nor does it mean the class isnt fun or worth playing.

At the end of the day — It’s still a game. And fun is what is ultimately important.

oh, so i’m the guy who doesn’t know how to play the class now?
looks like only duel between us can settle this down

No, you’re just a rude person that is so socially inept that they think they can get away with saying rude things, or making sweeping judgmental statements about others.

you just said i’m incapable to play warrior properly.

Malpractice.7850:

lighter.2708:

Malpractice.7850:

lighter.2708:

warrior can not stand any focus at all. they die way too easy in team fight.
in duels, you can probably put up a fight

Put up a fight? Look at my results. Change your build, your playstyle, and things will work just fine as it has for me. Adapt to the meta. Crush the meta.

I do just fine in both 1v1 and team situations. I cant think of any profession i’m having a difficult time with.

not to be rude, but you seriously knows nothing other then low MMR and upleveled wvwer.

“Not to sound rude” yet you make judgements that arent true.

I’m mystic dragon, i do just fine in pvp. I’ve been in T1 nearly my entire gw2 life, and have over 1k levels in it. I’m not some amateur. I’ve long time mained an engi, so my mechanics are sound. I have also done quite well in the raids, finishing the first wing. I guess that makes me poor skilled, too. And for the uplevel, i only have 8 characters, theyre all 80, and 4 of them are ascended.

Not to sound rude, but you just sound like maybe you’re bad at the class and dont know how to properly play the game in pvp, or wvw.

See how unproductive that statement is?
Do not try to discredit people for things you don’t know.

Edit: I never once said they didn’t have flaws. They do. I simply said I found a build that works, and works over a long period of 15 games I posted. I have never tanked my MMR. I have had a learning period with them. I am simply saying its not all doom and gloom as many in this thread are saying. The class is weak, sure, i guess. That doesn’t mean it cant be effective and win games, and nor does it mean the class isnt fun or worth playing.

At the end of the day — It’s still a game. And fun is what is ultimately important.

oh, so i’m the guy who doesn’t know how to play the class now?
looks like only duel between us can settle this down

Malpractice.7850:

lighter.2708:

warrior can not stand any focus at all. they die way too easy in team fight.
in duels, you can probably put up a fight

Put up a fight? Look at my results. Change your build, your playstyle, and things will work just fine as it has for me. Adapt to the meta. Crush the meta.

I do just fine in both 1v1 and team situations. I cant think of any profession i’m having a difficult time with.

not to be rude, but you seriously knows nothing other then low MMR and upleveled wvwer.

warrior can not stand any focus at all. they die way too easy in team fight.
in duels, you can probably put up a fight

In china server, they ban who ever create multiple teams to farm pips.

you guys QQ while caed winning 1v2 against top NA chronomancers in pro league with staff

so i see in the achievements, there’s, for example

League Guardian : recruit, veteran, champion and elite
but they all have the same description of winning as a guardian in ranked Qs.

why not make them different and more difficult, like recruit would be winning as a guardian in amber or higher tier ranked q
and champion would be winning in Sapphire or higher tier ranked q, etc.

Tell me how you can decap with Gyro
or even play far, while enemy not knowing you going back mid or still staying at far.

get eat alive by necro

PvE war isnt any more fun with zerker, unless you talking about burn war, that can be more fun then DPS rev.

I’m no words have

People who compare thief to warrior level have some serious L2P issues
and i’m very happy to teach you how to play a thief properly in game.

Aomine.5012:

lighter.2708:

Aomine.5012:

lighter.2708:

Rain.9213:

Rich Fuel.7253:

revenants needs to be nerfed as they are sustainable as hell!
and thats coming from a main revenant player

I kinda agree to an extent. That shield trait needs to be removed or the healing on it needs to be cut down a bit. Playing off hand shield is so forgiving when fighting anything other than a reaper. You can make a lot of mistakes and recover so easily. Other than that, Glint heal is only strong if you manage to time it well which takes really good prediction and baiting which I think is part of the skillful play. At least on 1v1 against a good player. Inexperienced ones will never stop attacking haha. But fighting other Revenants on my daredevil, I really dont have an issue with Revenant sustain unless theyre using shield. Even Unrelenting Assault isnt an issue anymore due to everyhing else getting buffed.

i think shield is fine, it becomes a problem when combined with staff and glint heal tho.
i would see staff changed instead of shield, staff has the shortest CD block on top of evade.

Except staff has a low dps, a pretty useless and costly 2 skill, and one of the most telegraphic/slow cleanse skill which anyone half-decent can interrupt it.

staff has decent DPS if you get devastation with leech grand master on auto and 5 does massive damage too, at least for pvp side of things.
if you want to keep it as a tank weapon (as in having lowest CD block in the game and evade) then these two attack should have their damage nerfed.
anyhow the point is that shield is fine, if you really want to say one thing too good about shield, i would say heals.

Except staff 5 already have their damage nerfed by 25~27%.

And seriously, staff AA doesn’t have good dps… When 3 , 4 ,5 is on cool-down, you should always change to the more damaging weapon.

It’s like saying hambow wasn’t good back in the days because greatsword did more damage.

Aomine.5012:

lighter.2708:

Rain.9213:

Rich Fuel.7253:

revenants needs to be nerfed as they are sustainable as hell!
and thats coming from a main revenant player

I kinda agree to an extent. That shield trait needs to be removed or the healing on it needs to be cut down a bit. Playing off hand shield is so forgiving when fighting anything other than a reaper. You can make a lot of mistakes and recover so easily. Other than that, Glint heal is only strong if you manage to time it well which takes really good prediction and baiting which I think is part of the skillful play. At least on 1v1 against a good player. Inexperienced ones will never stop attacking haha. But fighting other Revenants on my daredevil, I really dont have an issue with Revenant sustain unless theyre using shield. Even Unrelenting Assault isnt an issue anymore due to everyhing else getting buffed.

i think shield is fine, it becomes a problem when combined with staff and glint heal tho.
i would see staff changed instead of shield, staff has the shortest CD block on top of evade.

Except staff has a low dps, a pretty useless and costly 2 skill, and one of the most telegraphic/slow cleanse skill which anyone half-decent can interrupt it.

staff has decent DPS if you get devastation with leech grand master on auto and 5 does massive damage too, at least for pvp side of things.
if you want to keep it as a tank weapon (as in having lowest CD block in the game and evade) then these two attack should have their damage nerfed.
anyhow the point is that shield is fine, if you really want to say one thing too good about shield, i would say heals.

Rain.9213:

Rich Fuel.7253:

revenants needs to be nerfed as they are sustainable as hell!
and thats coming from a main revenant player

I kinda agree to an extent. That shield trait needs to be removed or the healing on it needs to be cut down a bit. Playing off hand shield is so forgiving when fighting anything other than a reaper. You can make a lot of mistakes and recover so easily. Other than that, Glint heal is only strong if you manage to time it well which takes really good prediction and baiting which I think is part of the skillful play. At least on 1v1 against a good player. Inexperienced ones will never stop attacking haha. But fighting other Revenants on my daredevil, I really dont have an issue with Revenant sustain unless theyre using shield. Even Unrelenting Assault isnt an issue anymore due to everyhing else getting buffed.

i think shield is fine, it becomes a problem when combined with staff and glint heal tho.
i would see staff changed instead of shield, staff has the shortest CD block on top of evade.

So i was dueling on viper herald
i used embrace the darkness then quickly swapped to shiro for stun but i couldn’t do anything, because i got stuck in embrace the darkness mode even tho i’m in shiro stance, so the whole 10 seconds i was lock out of my utilities because the embrace the darkness kept consuming my energy

i gave up on war, rev is too good ( not in a OP way)
like since 2013, i kept saying anet please give war more utility.
but no, nothing, instead buff stuff like healing signet and kitten.
warrior has always relied on cheese easy build to stay in the meta like shoutbow hambow with close to no skill required. it’s just sad

now with berserker, i thought anet would give warrior some nice utility like shadow step, or boon rip w/e with exchange of a trait line, but no…another set of freaking physical with almost to no use berserk mode

and rev has everything i’ve dreamed for, specially the new viper build( not so much for the sword staff build, cuz it’s cheese), it’s skillful and utility-ful, you get shadow step, boon rip and stuff i didn’t ask for warriors, like boon management and even carry you team by absorbing their conditions on yourself or even place infuse light on downed ally

plus you can proc 4 swap sigils at the same time! how crazy is that, warrior can proc 4 sigils in 10 second more then other classes, but rev can proc them all at the same time! lol!

viper herald can easily take tempest under 90% with shiro heal and sword 3 then burn it with condi.
im pretty sure EU bring viper because all the ele, engi, rangers
if EU had thief, rev would probably still play dragon stance marauder.

Aomine.5012:

lighter.2708:

Lol, no, rev doesnt depend on herald line.
if you really say “depend”, then it’s just as dependent as other classes to their elite specialization

@above Invocation isn’t even part of the meta build how can it be required in anyway, meta power build uses retribution..

You seem to be indicating PVP only.

If you take Retribution in PVE, it’s a huge dps and utility lost.
I were once taking Retribution over Invocation, but once I switch it, I can never go back.
The utility and dps difference is just too significant.

Oh btw, as for Meta, the Meta PVE Berserker raid build no longer pick up discipline, so your theory of warrior depending on disp is flawed too.

So you are talking about PvE then?
Then tell me which class isn’t forced to take DPS lines when building for DPS, or we can trait for defense still asking for DPS now or something? like which class isn’t forced to take defense line if they want to tank, which class isn’t forced to take healing line if they want to be a healer.
Your logic is just flawed, do you even understand what we talking about as dependency of a class on specific trait line?
like seriously, PVE shouldn’t even be in this kind of conversation, like seriously, i’m able to function properly even traitless in pve, except that DPS lost.

Lol, no, rev doesnt depend on herald line.
if you really say “depend”, then it’s just as dependent as other classes to their elite specialization

@above Invocation isn’t even part of the meta build how can it be required in anyway, meta power build uses retribution..

https://wiki.guildwars2.com/wiki/Throw_Bolas

https://wiki.guildwars2.com/wiki/Impairing_Daggers

even tho i don’t play warrior anymore i main rev with alternative thief now, still…
when i was playing thief, i see this… , pay attention ,devs
whats the point of physical training, when this skill has such low base damage. not going to mention the other stuff..like four seconds of slow
did you made physical training only for rampage or something..

Jana.6831:

lighter.2708:

Jana.6831:

nearlight.3064:

Wat. Regen and protection are hardly considered passive invulnerability.

Sure – it’s very active “Yo, I stay here and take one hit to proc it! I’m working for it!!”

You do know that thief has a adept trait that works similar and arguably better then those two minors combined right?…

Tell me about it – please =)
Come on, I did the work and looked it up – look it up for me.

it’s called Pain Response, if you really didn’t know…do you really play thief…

and yea, i won’t bother myself with you anymore, as someone who avoids direct contact and arguments..there’s just no point.

Jana.6831:

nearlight.3064:

Wat. Regen and protection are hardly considered passive invulnerability.

Sure – it’s very active “Yo, I stay here and take one hit to proc it! I’m working for it!!”

You do know that thief has a adept trait that works similar and arguably better then those two minors combined right?…

The problem with warrior is that in top competitive level, any warrior build you can think of, there’s a class that will do it better, so no point in taking a warrior.

Sir Vincent III.1286:

Funny how readers often mistaken the intention of the OP.

Just to be clear, the OP wants all these “Thief Counters” to be nerfed illustrating how unbalance these anti-Thief skills currently are.

I agree on most, but not all, especially about the 2 point strat — I’ve seen this too many times. When a team refused to rotate, thus 2 point strat, the Thief’s mobility becomes useless since there will be nothing to decap.

disagree. if they keep one guy home, then you will be able to 4v5 mid

thief is fine, i would take thief over warrior anytime in a team.
the problem with thief is dragon stance of herald that apply reveal make thief vulnerable in teamfights and dragonhunter. caed played evade build instead of DP so it’s better because less rely on stealth..in EU there’s no thief so no need to bring dragon stance, instead they bring corruption because a lot of ele and ranger and engi
thief still is the best ganking class, rev plays more like sword DH instead of thief.

i remember someone said that stomp is strongest CC for war.

you can be druid healer and condi ranger for raid, that will be np

not buying any of those appearance pack

EU is condi hybrid damage rev meta, NA is marauder dps rev meta
and condi viper rev is indeed stronk specially against tempest which are all over the place