I can’t take it anymore. The class has such a narrow scope to be successful in spvp and the few morons left playing the class refuse to fulfill that role 90% of the time. They just want to 1v1 and die over and over again. Please boost them so some people with a clue come back.
exactly, there’s so many thieves yet there’s very few that’s actually good at 5v5 and know what they should do. i can basically count all the top thieves with only one hand even pre HOT.
Yeah only thieves players are bad, instead all the players playing the rest of the classes are good. It’s not because they use OP classes.
No, it’s just that the thief population is so big in PvP yet you can find very small number of good thieves who actually know their role in 5v5. (preHOT, all 1v1 servers, half of the players are thieves, you will get atleast 1 thief in unranked or ranked most of the time)
the rest of the classes don’t have that big of a population in PvP scene, which justify the number of their good players..
I’ve seen a significant LACK of thieves lately.
We playing the same game bro?
did you see the word “preHOT”. now thieves just aren’t that overpopulated anymore, cuz stealth resetting in a duel no longer carry, so the number actually correspond to the number of good thieves out there.
I can’t take it anymore. The class has such a narrow scope to be successful in spvp and the few morons left playing the class refuse to fulfill that role 90% of the time. They just want to 1v1 and die over and over again. Please boost them so some people with a clue come back.
exactly, there’s so many thieves yet there’s very few that’s actually good at 5v5 and know what they should do. i can basically count all the top thieves with only one hand even pre HOT.
Yeah only thieves players are bad, instead all the players playing the rest of the classes are good. It’s not because they use OP classes.
No, it’s just that the thief population is so big in PvP yet you can find very small number of good thieves who actually know their role in 5v5. (preHOT, all 1v1 servers, half of the players are thieves, you will get atleast 1 thief in unranked or ranked most of the time)
the rest of the classes don’t have that big of a population in PvP scene, which justify the number of their good players..
I can’t take it anymore. The class has such a narrow scope to be successful in spvp and the few morons left playing the class refuse to fulfill that role 90% of the time. They just want to 1v1 and die over and over again. Please boost them so some people with a clue come back.
exactly, there’s so many thieves yet there’s very few that’s actually good at 5v5 and know what they should do. i can basically count all the top thieves with only one hand even pre HOT.
I’m sorry OP. I am sorry that you refused to post a screen shot that would give us more information because you knew very well the stars had to align for it to happen. I am sorry that you think the evidence of a 20k Gunflame on a dummy vindicates your claims that this ability needs to be looked at.
There is a shatter mesmer build that can reliably “one shot” me through 21k Shroud and 26k Health… It dies from a fart and has a 1:1 K/D ratio. Perfectly fine in my opinion. So to is this gimmicky useless Gunflame build.
The usual forums… hilarious..
You do realize how many buttons the gun flame warrior has to press right?
f2 then f1? LOL.
show me that RELIABLE 21k shatter you speak of.
that’s why gunflame no defensive yolo war is reckting all the mesmers right? oh wait..
and oh since when clicking more buttons = more skills
and do mesmer have to give up all the defense for it? nop.
btw you actually need, signet of rage>signet of fury>on my mark>brutal shot>berserk>gunflame, which is definitely more then one button.
Not sure why you say, without the facts, that “Warrior can’t tank” Of course they can, any profession build right, can tank. Warrior has the hps for the job, and if the get prot from outside sources, then they can survive just as good as anything else.
if you already have a guy that’s pomping out proc (exp: hammer tank guard), why would you need another guy to tank?
So what I’m understanding is that anyone who can’t play Warrior has serious l2p issues..I have ran nothing but Warrior since GW2 release, and I have NEVER had a nerf or anything be a problem. Find out what Anet does to their game in updates, find out what needs to be fixed, and adapt. I am still very balanced and have no problems killing ANY class. 3.5k Power, 3.3k armor, 56% crit, 19k health, etc. Condi is useless to me, but I can still kill without it and I don’t need to worry about survivability: I have that no problem.
have fun killing downlevel and undergeared randoms. you are such a pro.
no, duel me.
Nop, not over exaggeration, i play thief, and i can see you don’t play warrior.
thief is no where close to warrior trash level.
thief is bad, but warrior is trash
thieves, even being not good, are still playable with the right teammates, which is proven by abjured, because thief is still the king of decap and killing low HP players.
warrior is completely unplayable for any role there is, which is why all warriors in tournament level rerolled.
if you seriously think other wise, play one, or just l2p.
There’s more than pvp in this game – and running and decapping only helps me that much in wvw or even pve.
compared to warriors thieves should be in heaven still
Actually the warrior community just over exaggerates their plight. Even if your roles are just back-capping and pet, warrior can still give and take more punishment than the thief and not have to rely heavily on a game mechanic to do so.
So no, not really.
Nop, not over exaggeration, i play thief, and i can see you don’t play warrior.
thief is no where close to warrior trash level.
thief is bad, but warrior is trash
thieves, even being not good, are still playable with the right teammates, which is proven by abjured, because thief is still the king of decap and killing low HP players.
warrior is completely unplayable for any role there is, which is why all warriors in tournament level rerolled.
if you seriously think other wise, play one, or just l2p.
I would love to see OP release a solution for that,
i’ve never see any public server in any games that can keep a constant even number of the same people..
Agreed, I remember old CS lobbies would just be people attempting to follow one player from team to team because he was killing everyone. Hotjoins same crap happens.
Also what the kitten is up with this whole thing where people constantly pulling the “WTF Did You even read my post bro” everytime someone disagrees…. it’s ridiculous.
it is public server after all, even if people don’t follow the best player, people join people leave, the server change map on it’self upon finishing a match, there will still be uneven matches
I would love to see OP release a solution for that,
i’ve never see any public server in any games that can keep a constant even number of the same people..
From what I see very frequently, warriors can endure enough to force their enemies to pop some of their defensive utilities and then go bat-kitten crazy with rampage on flat ground where nobody can escape nor hide or just pop 8 seconds of endure pain and zerker stance for condi immunity, this is enough to (if played well) wipe even whole teams that are depleted in cooldowns.
It’s all a matter of who you fight against, honestly.
Can’t pressure a scrapper, he WANTS you in melee range.
Can’t pressure a reaper, he WANTS you in melee range.
Can’t pressure a dragon hunter, he WANTS you in melee range. If you run, enjoy his powerful true shots with 1200 range while he has access to a 1200 range teleport and a 600 range leap
Can’t pressure a chronomancer, he WANTS you in melee range.
Can’t pressure a daredevil, he’ll lolspam through your attacks and still WANTS you in melee range.
Can’t pressure a herald, he WANTS you in melee range.
Funny thing is, warrior’s saving grace was the melee pressure they could put out. Now every class and their grandmother wants you to be stuck to melee weapons (since rifle is lackluster as a range weapon and LB is more of a tool than a weapon) because they’ve got 101 ways to punish your super telegraphed melee attacks.
LOL exactly, reaper can just double range you with scepter and staff then you finally manage to get close with all those chills fear applied to you, which was already difficult before the patch, now they have reaper shroud with low CD stab and aoe melee attack that out damage you, hahaha, good joke.
BUFF WARRIOR SUSTAIN, NOT DAMAGE. Give us PROTECTION and SUPERSPEED since most of the builds requires us to be melee range AND kitten FIX THE BUGS so that the skills actually hit.
Herald is exacly what Berserker should’ve been… I mean it has everything that Warrior is lacking.
only for 3.3k hp less
HP doesn’t matters when adept trait can give you +400 toughness… ;-)
exactly, before one of the reason i use to justify warrior’s clunky, telegraphed skills etc was because warrior has highest armor and HP and the other highest armor class had lowest hp and the other highest HP class had light armor
but now with rev only been 3.3k hp away, things simply can’t be justified.
BUFF WARRIOR SUSTAIN, NOT DAMAGE. Give us PROTECTION and SUPERSPEED since most of the builds requires us to be melee range AND kitten FIX THE BUGS so that the skills actually hit.
Herald is exacly what Berserker should’ve been… I mean it has everything that Warrior is lacking.
Yet I still can’t get enough of going zerkerberker, charging into a full mid fight, and destroying everything that moves in 5 seconds.
In PvE? Congrats on charging into a group of spiders and killing them. In PvP against non-braindead opponents the only thing you’ll charge into with Berserker spec is your death.
You’re that bad, huh?
Man what’s your point, everyone knows that you can kill someone, on certain circumstances, with the build you keep posting and keep faping on, i can understand that, but that becomes bit boring, what’s your intention ? To claim warriors are fine ? Or to promote yourself as the only warrior pwning ? Or you just trolling. Or using reverse psychology. Either way i think forum has enough posts about “warriors totally fine, berserk fine” from pve players.
I can post a build of Body blow/distracting strikes Hammer/Mace Shield warrior with Rabid amulet and krait runes, then make a footage of me Earthshaking someone into, staggering blow, into back breaker into kick into bullrush into stomp and when the enemy mid flight using rampage into throw boulder into seismic leap into kick into dash, leaving form into shield bash, into pommel bash.
So a target with 20 + stacks of bleed which dies on the rampage part. And trust me it will work on some people. Then what ? I ll run to the forum and post it everywhere with the claim Warriors are fine ? Sigh…
Nope.
Like 5 comments in this thread and all you’ve managed to accomplish is to show everyone you’re a punk with no real input.
Grats on what you call “success” with a gimmick build, qt.
Rofl. Where have I ever stated anything like this?
It has been entertaining watching people insert their stories from the little I said into this thread though.
i did make a bolt just for rev and used with fotm sword, it looks pretty sick
tho i may switch fotm sword with sab, because you don’t really see the fotm effect with rev skills because they already have smokes…
Some people wont most duels playing rangers when rangers were bottom of the pile. Winning means nothing more than a player met opponent that were of lower level or whose builds were no match/ countered by the winner’s build.
Only problem is TU charging LF at a too high rate.
rangers were always too good in duels, rangers were bottom 5v5 because it brings nothing in 5v5.
Aside from how bad berserker is in terms of performance in pvp
berserker is also incredible boring as you play the same freaking style just like core warrior
except now you can use skill a bit farther away with certain burst skill…so much for gameplay change.
Lol, back in the days, we say, if there’s only warrior in this game, gw2 would be already esport.
one of the most epic dueling i’ve ever done in 3 years of gw2 was gs/lb zerker war vs gs/lb zerker war. even the spectators said “it was amazing” and it’s actually understandable by non gw2 players
Second complain was why one would go for berserker line when strenght provides higher dps? They buffed dps in berserker and wars are like..we dindt asked for it..the hypocrisy is real.
Yea, just buff berserker dps, make strength line pointless just so people will take berserker line, mhm
i don’t feel bad anymore, i’ve tried to quit warrior so many times since 2013, each time i regret and come back only to be hit harder with even harsh reality, thanks anet, now i don’t even feel like logging on that PoS, certainly no regret.
let’s just say warrior has always been op against noobs, because noobs can’t dodge telegraphed skills.
people who QQ’ed about hambow yet, hammer has the most avoidable skill in game..
shoutbow is way stronger then hambow because it does constant sustain damage(arguably higher overtime) with greater sustain..
but shoutbow is still outclassed by DD ele, only thing stands out is the banner.
Who Launch Warriors here
Because get ready for a blast from the PAST (2 years+ ago) https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-y2lFbH8Awg
Where the opinion on warriors were ALMOST exactly the same:
blind/block wrecks warr
cleansing ire (which just got introduced specifically for warriors to patch up their condi cleanse problems) is too unreliable without longbow
“Damage was never the warrior’s problem”
So yeah listening to this is pretty depressing that not a lot has changed, really.
Yep, exactly, that’s why i get mad after the last patch, because that’s the same approach they gave warrior back then, it’s not gonna work, it will only result in boring skillless bunker specs…like hambow and shoutbow and then they will get nerfed.
i’ve been asking since 2013 to give warrior more useful utilities or two phase skills for pvp environment..but no freaking way..
Berserker is literally the most boring thing you made after that statement.
by cool thing, do you mean that give up all the stuff to get the same thing?
another set of boring physicals, why not.
just replace burst skill with another but almost the same burst skill why the freaking not!
seriously, i thought berserker was all about additional utilities, but no…
Strength-Arm-Berserker
Scholar runes, Signet of Fury, Signet of might, Endure pain, Healing signet, Signet of rage
Sigil of force, Sigil of air on rifle
