Not sad no. It feels a lot better; more fluid, more natural, no hidden rules. We will just have to pay a close attention to what happens and make any adjustments where necessary. It was an essential step towards a better future experience for players.
By “and make any adjustments wherer necessary” you mean after another 4 month, right?
I never will be able to understand why small changes , like dmg-numbers, and CD adjustments cannot be made earlier.
With the new balance-patch and all the “new” stuff coming, it will change (hopefully) very much.
In GW1 nerfs / buffs were made a lot faster, and this also keept it interessting.
Why do they buff / nerf something, hmm – this could work out etc .
TeamQueue should always try to match a fullteam vs a fullteam.
Outside of that i can only agree, if you like to get more good games play teamqueue .
Normally nobody leaves there or stops playing if you are 100pts behind, and also you get better rewards .
I can only apply to this as well.
I had the same experience , no clue of the warrior class outside of what you know when you fight against em.
I made one and jumped into soloq .
10:1 !!
After that i went back to my main and it was like ever before, you lose some you win some.
Its redicilous.
You can fail so much as warrior, your braindead condicleanse paired with the Op-Utils and you still too high damage for all that tankiness is just too much.
I just cannot understand how any player with half a brain can justify their Warrior OPness.
These ppls seriously should play something else, to get an idea of how it feels as any other profession. !
What can be so difficult that all the “balance”-updates ( letz call it that for now ) take month to implement.
It’s not like we get new abilities or anything is changed too much, its just some numbers.
More dmg, lesser CD, more Hp .. why does it take sooo long ?
I dont get it .
Well something is really not working with the kitten leaderboard .
You play the same 50ppl all day long, from morning till night – they are all in top 200 i would say but yet i am not even ranked anymore ( playing ele atm )
This is really strange, or are there only so few ppl left ?
They don’t need fixing, they are fine. Just get better imo.
Play a D/x ele in sPvP / tPvP and then tell us again the ele is fine …
You can only play with a full zerker staff , or fresh-air S/x .
But in both cases you arekitten**** hardcountered by a thief on your skill-level.
Also mesmer or Wars can just train you 24/7 and you wont get your job done.
D/x is so useless.
DPS-wise it would be okay, but you will just be focus and die in 2 secs , other professions can just nuke you and go immune while doing so ( warrior ) or stay out of the deadly AEs .
Playing D/x as closepoint def , is meh too, rangers / warrs or even mesmers can do much better.
You cannot kill anything as D/x bunker spec, whereas ranger / war or mesmer can.
So basicly you are reliant on your team helping you, and all you can give back is medicore condi-removal ( if you trait for it ofc . ) – don’t come with protection via aurashare, its freaking bad !
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Warrior for sure.
I normally play Ele ( and get my flames every 2nd match )…
Yesterday i switched to Warrior ( i had 12 Games on warrior until then ).
Now i have 24, and i went 11:1 .
I mean come on, that cannot be luck .
I went back to ele after that, and the next 6 games were like 2:4 … definitly warrior !
well staff ele is quite decent tbh – i mean think a little bit, if they have to stand in your ae to take dmg how about laying it under your feed ?
I see the most problems with D/D – its inferior in infights , 1v1 its okayish, but this game is not about 1v1… and if you go in as D/D you most likely are dead 5-10 sec after that.
“Range”-Ele is kinda okay.
Well perhaps, after a litte thinking time, how about they revert every nerf ele got.
Would really like to see how that will do.
You can’t !
Because its not only the profession, you also have to think about every weaponset / combination there is.
If you only buff traits / utils certain combination will become OP while others still will be kitten !
Can only agree on what the OP wrote.
There is no reason why certain professions should have such a big advantage.
It’s really a problem, and makes balancing much more of a problem.
I’ve to laugh every time in Skyhammer when a light-toughness profession gets hit by the cannon and then we have those warriors / guards who don’t even dodge it , cause well – they can tank 3-4 hits … it’s redicilous !!!
Well there a profession specific mechanics / utils / traits which give certain professions defensive bonus’es but , aside of Guardian , its also these HighHP + Armor professions that get them.
I really would love to see a red answer in this thread, let them “explain” to us why a warrior for example needs the highest baseHP + baseAC + regeneration , and also their redicilous Burst capability // It does not make any sense.
And justifying this stat advantage with easy to play , or it’s a beginner profession does not count.
We all know what happens if someone who can play chooses these professions.
Depends on your setup, as D/D ele you are right – there is not much you can do.
As S/x you have more options, one would be to blind, which is on similar cooldown.
Of course this would need you to specc into S/x + fresh air perhaps.
I am NOT talking about “balance” in WvW !
It was stated to be unbalanced by design, and alone the Foodboofs are obviously unbalanced !!!
The funny thing is, and you all deny that, an warrior is just redicilously easy to play .
Even the greatest loser can spec for a “meta” build and wreck havoc !
This is the big problem.
Even if you are so terrible and click all your skills – you could still succeed in tPvP as warrior.
And i was referring to ele ( and i mean D/D ele ) because someone here mentioned Warrior would be Pure melee … which is not the case !
99% of warriors run Bow in tPvp, and they do it for a reason.
And onther thing, and this is maybe the reason y so many warriors think they are “fine” – is what has become of the game.
You think because of all this senseless AOE condi spam you are fine when having cleansing ire on longbow F1 , and your double immunity abilities.
Its not fine, and its not good !
One should have to think when to go defensive and when to go in an burst.
Using all immunity skills and running in there while beeing able to dish out dmg other professions have to specc full glass for, and then backing of and still maintain pressure with Longbow.
Condicleanse on demand … i mean, this is way to much !
I know one should not compare class abilities, but its really really more then annyoing at the moment .
To all Warrios’s in here who actually think they are “balanced” – please for the sake of god play a D/D elementalist.
A profession that cannot switch to a different weaponset , this is pure melee.
And then, fight agains any class in the game – then come back and tell us again that you are “balanced” .
Balanced around what ? You really think you are such good players that you win every 1v1 out there ?
Even when missing 50% of you “obvious telegraphed” skills ?
Please try ele and then review your statements…
Underpowered for month now – but thats not my point.
The point is, why does it take for ages until something is changed ?
Yeah, changes like altering all Sigils / Runes – or the reward system , they need time and thats okay.
But balance changes ( i dont mean changes that destroy or make some profession OP ) , i mean just some numbers to make certain unused traits / utils / Builds viable again.
Why does it take so long ?
@OP – play some games as D/D ele and post in this thread again please ..
I don’t understand why small changes , like some numbers cooldowns, dmg-numbers on skills are not patched faster .
It would / could change so much .
Guys ,
can someone please somehow enlighten me ?
I am about the uninstall GW2 because its only frustration in the last few days.
I tried every build i could think of, but its always the same, you cannot compete with anyone = you skill level.
If i play thief, or S/F Ele its fine, but as D/D i could really cry.
Anyone has any ideas ? any builds that work your you ?
I really love this game, but i don’t know if i can stand this any longer
Sadly lyssa is needed on thiefs , so if you would increase the ICD or remove it thiefs would really have a problem.
If they really would remove lyssa runes clear all conditions bonus, they must take a look into abilities / professions that are able to insta spam you with nearly all conditions ingame ….
Speaking for thief, you really have not many options to remove conditions, and i doubt this will change in the near future.
There are a lot of really good other runesets, but on certain professions lyssa is the way to go.
Why do you cry about it ?
Because you play a profession with a long cd on elite ?
Perhaps you should play a thief and run it with another runeset – and then come back and tell us how you performed ?
Yo, can we stop talking about WvW ?
This is about sPVP , and its really really different because of the less stats you have to play with.
Like FeelsAlright.5860 already posted, if you can still have > 80% critdmg , you can start to invest into something more defensive, this is NOT possible in sPvP .
And yeah , i agree somehow they should take a look at the different armor / Hp distribution.
This ele does not queue at 5am nights, fought him several times.
It’s really “interessting” how he is able to dish out his burst combo while running away from you with some strange animation …. ( but well perhaps it was just a display bug on my end ).
BUt well, this is another topic – i don’t want to rant about other players here.
The problem with ele burst is, if it hits ofc the target is in trouble, or in case of a glasscanon downed.
But well so is it with every other burst too.
Do you know how hard a eviscerate hits these ele players ?
I was hit several times for ~10k in tourney.
Same with thiefs burst option.
I think all of this is absolutely fine, ele has i from range, and its much harder to pull of, while warrior / thief does need closerange , but then its only 1 or 2 buttonpress.
I don’t think the problem is something they could fix with altering some numbers on weapon skills.
It’s more the currenty situation.
Every class that is not bunkerish would have problems if the nmy teams DPS would focus them.
This is the mainproblem.
Every match an ele is in the nmy team it’s like – hey guys just focus the ele .
And ofcourse this is a tough situation to deal with.
You basicly have to back off, and your teammates must perhaps support you.
If they do, and the enemy team overextends you can easily burst one target, but again it involves teamplay.
Same is with staff ele , he is very very powerfull but basicly needs a babysitter agains better teams who know what the ele is capable of.
Support ele is very usefull in teamfights – at least to me.
Condi Cleanse, regen , stability and medicore damage.
Its fine, but well you rarely see and ele playing something like this – perhaps it will need some additional time to see these builds.
Eles defense is movement, and beeing in the right attuments at the right time – ofc this is much harder to achive then what other classes can do.
Well ele HP and armor is really low, but do you really think it would help if ele would get 2k more HP ?
I really though they might could help ele if they would lower base attument swich cooldown, but then other traits like Elemental Attument or fresh air would be too strong.
So its really a big problem to balance ele atm.
If you have the ability to one-shot anything if you really go for it , and you buff the defense to much we will have a problem ( no matter how hard this combo will be, i think its really harder to hit then any other burst combo ingame, but this does not matter ).
I think a lot has changed since the 12th dec patch.
Since the games does not have any subscription fee, i would advise you to take a look.
I am having tons of fun atm , soloq or teamq.
If you manage to find a team, you tPvP experience will increase 100%.
Its so much more fun to play organized than the rely on teammates who don’t watch the map or read the chat.
Also if you queue solo for teamqueue , can be much more rewarding then playing soloq – give it a try.
Elo can never do its job , because the playerbase is much too low !
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The kittening MMR is so broken, after all this work that they invested in it …
Goiing 10:0 or 0:10 in YoloQ clearly shows that !
It’s not bad luck or good luck , its just bad implemented .
Since they don’t publish their algorithms they could also do some awkward stuff that would make the life much more enjoyable for all – like how is it even possible to get a 10:0 .
When you face the same ppl over and over again ?
Clearly only bad luck i guess..
Well just remember that setups from the past few games and switch players !!!
With only 1k players left in this pvp community this should not be such a big problem.
If we are talking about a big playerbase like other games have it, then well – this would ofc be a problem.
But then, i don’t think such “luck”-“badluck” chains will happen there !
@OP , if you want to understand why Anet nerfs this you need to go and play a different profession in sPvP and fight against these kind of warriors.
Then you will understand.
Can you still get fused gauntlets through normal tournament reward chests ?
You can just use Superior Sigil of Earth – it does apply really nice bleed stacks and we are switching weapons all the time anyway.
Altough i also hate the way Anet goes with the game ( too much passive rewarding stuff ) i still must say one of the best things in GW2 is that you can just chose to play another profession !
Granted, you will not be at the same level as with the profession that you choose as your main-profession , but still you can do it without having to farm gear and stuff.
Hopefully they will soon shift the current “meta” a little bit to allow for more on-use ( skillfull ) abilities and get rid of all those autopilot traits & stuff.
I am stuck at 23/24 !!
I did every obilisc twice – following dulfy.net guide.
On every obilisk i get the message that i cannot gain any more energy from that obilisk !!!
wtf is this kitten ?
It’s a waste of time anyways – but this bug is makeing it even more stupid !!!
I want my achivment !
You don’t need to make the game F2P in the mists, there are enough people who bought this game for PvP -reasons but they quit b/c there was “nothing” left to do..
If they would create an organitzed team-league, and heaven forbids, perhaps even some 3v3 ( or some other format ) winner-stays kind of arena people will come back for sure !
Also the suggestion to tie the ranking of a team to some kind of reward is super.
This would give a team a reason to play ( aside of fun ofc ).
what do you mean by “miss” ??
You did not land it , even from the front ?
Perhaps you had blind on you – bc this is normally when i see a “miss” on my screen ?
I asked the same question today on http://www.twitch.tv/guildwars2pvptv while halseth was “playing”.
His answer was quite funny ..
He needs to run GS + Staff and full zerker gear, otherwise mesmer is not viable.
And the problem, why S/D “hardcounters” it, is that S/D thief can evade everything, so he cannot hit us …
Well, i wakitten often enough by shatters , and if i myself run a basic full zerker setup ( eg. 10/30/0/0/30 ) they can 100-0 me !
But well, i guess i am just a bad thief and all the mesmers that are able to hit a shatter on a thief are just lucky…
Dunno, we had to change our build from D/D zerker to now S/D , why don’t mesmers not change their builds.
Or at least their amulet if they spot a S/D thief in the nmy team ?
Well i guess its just much easier to QQ all the time, so S/D gets another nerf.
However, i am really curious what else they could nerf on S/D ?
If you know the animation, of S#3 you can still easily hit the thief.
Yeah, changing it to a blastfinisher would help it a lot !!
Also , if they would just increase the vulnerability duration , 3 sec’s is soo weak compared to how much other classes can stack vuln ( automaticly even .. ).
Did someone perhaps record it , or is there a vod on twitch were i can watch the finals ?
I missed them … .
well luckily they are not in tPvp , and i hope they will never come.
But, nice idea – S/P with scorpionwire and runes of perplexity could be funny….
Lol , thats not true for sure , but its really conspicuous how many Warriors run around nowadays.
Ofc, they all played since beta and all had to reroll to someething else before the last patch, bcause warris were so bad QQ :..
Same goes for Necromancers btw.
I am Rank42 and currently placed 970 with my mainacc .
I have also 2 other accounts with lower Ranks ( 15-25 ) , one of them is currrently in top 200 …. matchmaking ftw !
yeah i know , old topic – but i really was in a rage after having played around 60 tounrys yesterday evening.
M+S/GS or M+S/Hammer warriors all day log , at least 2 in every game.
I finally though, well if you can’t beat em , join em.
Its rediculous how much their healing signet heals , combined with 3k armor and 2k toughness.
And the dmg they are still able to push is enough to kill every profession thats not a bunker !
I missed so many Skullcracks -> HundredBlades it was really really bad, but i still won any 1v1 i had. .. so stupid !
I’ve around 20 tPvP games on my warrior and about ~ 1300 on my thief, but right now i feel so more important for my team when playing Warrior // it’s really sad.
Steal signet of rage’s boons and shadow return to avoid movement/damage skills.
Here’s bits of streaming against a warrior that wanted to get a few duels through: http://www.twitch.tv/oxygg/c/2391332
One good thing to do is cloak and dagger from the back while the target is immobilized by infiltrator’s and can’t turn around.
Here’s another one I guess http://www.twitch.tv/oxygg/c/2391312
This is what you call a duel ?
LOL , the first fight maybe , but the second vid is just a baddy running away with GS , taking hits in the back … rofl i would be ashamed to even link something like this…
There is currently no way one can win 1v1 against a M+S/GS warrior who is on the same skilllevel.
Perhaps with conditions but, only in WvW !
In sPvP you just dont do enough dmg to kill them with their insane reg + def capability.
Also, in sPvP most of the warriors use melandru + many condition deny / cleanse utils.
In order to deal direct dmg you have to run zerkers , and a high power specc , but failing to dodge 1 skullcrack most likely ends in Death !!!!
Cause thanks to Anet , ShadowReturn does not break stun anymore !
Thanks btw.
Yeah it was too much, but the way warriors are right now is also to much !
S/P makes any fight against melee pretty easy since you can deal drop a blind field and stand in it while fighting. This forces your enemy to either stand in it and constantly miss or run away, giving you time to put out dps while they aren’t. This in addition to stun locking and dazing any heals from fleeing enemies with skill 4 make S/P work really well with the right build.
You need to be smart with your IS to keep your port at a decent range so that you can escape any stuns as well as to force a moving fight away from your port spot, but if you do this, you can survive really well without needing to stealth.
This is why I’m a fan of 10/30/0/0/30 S/P for roaming.
Lol – against what nub warriors are you fighting please ?
Yes, please stand in you BP while he uses 100 blades- you know, you will die anyways cause the blinding tick from BP does not tick as fast as the 100blades skill ..
10/30/0/0/30 is a nice specc for sure, but you will never ever win against a competent Mace/shied + GS warrior …. and standing in BP will let you lose even faster.
Yes i am serious !!
If they would at least have said that they gonna remove the npc, i would have traded my tickets.
Also, you know, there might be people who did not play the last few month, they have the same problem…
It’s somehow the same with the recent karma change.
Of course you could use your stuff right away – but i like to pile up stuff and then use it when i fell like it.
same here !!
have around 200 tickets – i want my chests !! !
how about dodging thier hard-hitting abilities ?
Also, with your specc you have 6 dodge rolls + FS .
Be smart, use IS + SR to avoid more of their dmg.
You should not spam Fs/Ls , this is perhaps your main problem.
Also, depending on your 2nd weaponset you can pre-dmg before engaging .
Once you have to much condis on you, or you are stunlocked you will lose – but well then you failed to dodge .
Thief is a profession that must somehow outplay many professions nowadays – if you want to react and / or just spam your abilities thief is not for you.
You might kill other GC builds with S/D #3 spamming but for sure no people who know what they do and for sure no Spiritrangers,Stunlock-Warriors or necros.
what can you buy with that money that you don’t already have??
i mean right now I’m sitting at 70g+ (was at 90+ before spending some yesterday), i spent some gold to get another tab in my tank…which I didn’t even need. I bought some bigger bags as well. I can’t think of what to buy really.
Well, i for my part want to have a legendary someday .
Also the new skins are pretty nice, and if you get them for free – why not ?!
I am doing it this way , i would say its safemode – you basicly never have to use your elite + utilslot 2 .
Most important thing in my opinion is the bufffood – you heavily notice when it ran out.
But well i dont’t use ambush trap at all.
And we are doing it for money of course !
hey, how about that:
you should also give something ( a chest with 1 rnd piece of loot ) to the loserteam as well.
That way people would perhaps try to win until the match is over and noone would leave , cause well perhaps there is a really nice item in the loserchest ?
Problem is that even if the person behind the computer is kittened, spirit ranger is so faceroll and full of spamming that’s it’s effective
nah , would not say that – its easy agreed but if you know how to fight a spiritranger, and the other player is not good , and you are , you still win.
but i agree with you, there are to many passive buffs / actions that do too much dmg ( or mitigrate damage ).
recently faced a team of 4 warriors + 1 mesmer .
i really though kitten , we will lose horribly ( we had 3 thiefs …. ) , but well we won by 300 points difference.
So , sure spiritrangers and necros are annoying as hell, but only if the person behind it knows how to play.
So sure it sucks ( if all of them know how to play ) but if not, its perhaps even better for you.
Some fotm reroller is most likely always weaker than he would be playing his own native profession ?!
And what do you want to achive with that build ?
You kitten your dmg compared to a build with 30pt in CS around at least 30 % .
I play different builds in soloq too, but my job as thief is still the same that it was in tourney ( soloq ).
I kill people, or i play a high-mobile specc that allows me to backcap and still join the grpfight quite fast.
I don’t see why you would want to play this specc over 10/30/0/30/0 or 0/30/10/0/30 or any variation with 30pkt in CS.
It’s soo much more dmg.
I don’t wont to sound to harsh but take a look at Arganthium.5638 twitch videos.
He is a clicker, and thus maybe does not know that a S/D build like jumpers can evade most of the damage if played right.
For his playstyle his build is superior but for a thief that knows how to play S/D right 30 points in CS are just to valuable to give up.
Even a 10/30/0/0/30 build would be better presure than 10/0/0/30/30 ..
Necros are not designed to go 1 on 1, thats thieves specialty. You must remember that CnD can be used from any where to ambient creatures and all.
and yes there is still that stealth but i wont call it perma.
Are we playing the same game ?
Since necro-OP patch a necro is godmode in 1v1 … and ambient creatures ?
There are some many ambient creatures in sPvp — really , the whole map is full of em.