Guild Wars 2

MajorMelchett.6042:

9: Good point Nacho. We are currently discussing these particular items and it is fair to say that we don’t want have such big hikes in requirements moving forward.

Why roll it out with such requirements then? Especially when there are reports of players already coming up against the agony mechanic with no infused ascended items and being unable to progress. Did no-one at anet question this?

Tomcat.8375:

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[–]ArenaNetTeam[S] 20 points 6 minutes ago

Hi Soc,

Thanks for taking the time to send in some questions. We do not believe we have gone against any of our principals, but we do understand the concern regarding potential grind. We absolutely design everything we do with minimal grind and will continue with this principal moving forward.

The attainment of an infused backpack is minimal grind? What planet is he from? This is just a bizarre answer given the grind in many many parts of the game and an indication that they just don’t get it.

Xavier.2176:

Oh and I almost forgot to say that I’ve never had this much fun in WvWvW than I’m having right now. Looks like our tiny EU guild has found a permanent home in YB if I just can get my other guildies to transfer here.

Welcome and good to hear :-). We have a great community on YB.

Sweep the tower after an attack, spread your forces and siegee so you’re not concentrated in 1 area. Be aware.

My guild is always sending out roaming 5 man groups

Mesmer, Engineer and Thief.

Aba.6419:

Very pretty please put your build into some www. Please.

morrolan.9608:

Yeah if you want to be an aoe bomber glyph of storms is a must. aoe blind in earth form, aoe chill in water form ……………….

I personally think a cantrip based build is a better boon generator for staff eles. Mine is 10/10/0/30/20 with the relevant cantrip based traits chosen.

Here’s the build I use:

http://en.gw2skills.net/editor/?fEIQFAWhImSbxR4gjEAkHn4CLhCKIKURRxM7A;ToAA1CookyIlQKLXOpkSNAZSA

I swap the utilities in and out but generally have 2 cantrips there all the time.

Servanin.5021:

Ranged in general is a lot worse than melee for every class. You ever try killing someone with Warrior Longbow, or Rifle before they buffed kill shot?

Its called opportunity cost. Even for rangers, their melee is a lot better than ranged. I guess crossfire can be pretty potent, but why are you standing there with your back facing a ranger for an extended period of time?

Problem is every other class can switch between ranged and melee. Ele doesn’t have that option.

Tolmos.8395:

So all together… who is this patch supposed to cater to?

People who hate vertical progression: “This is terrible. This is completely against everything you told us prior to launch. You lied to us to get us to buy your game and then changed everything once you had our money”

People who like vertical progression: “Your sad attempt at vertical progression is terribad. Thanks for the patch, though- it helped me realize I really do miss vertical progression, so I’m going to give WoW another shot since it does it better!”

November 15th- the bane of MMOs. First SWG, now GW2.

Exactly, try and please everybody and you please nobody. And the type of player who whinges about wanting more progression isn’t the type to stick around long term anyway.

Raive.2504:

Hi,

With this new dungeon, for me on Underworld server, I have gone from a choice of 8 dungeons of multiple paths to the one dungeon that, sure has some random in it, but it has got to the stage where noone wants to go anywhere else.

This is exactly what I said would happen with the new dungeon without any updates to existing dungeons. Its just ridiculous.

Agree with the OP plus they could have added new DEs and DE chains.

Braxxus.2904:

28k hp, 2900 armor. Due to rendering issues impossible to track and counter attack the thief, or he can ez mode escape if by chance he does get in danger. The issue with thieves isn’t just about what they do to glass builds, but how the class does in general. In fact I’d have to say that unicorn spec’d thieves are far more OP in WvW than backstab thieves because they are literally immortal when you add in the culling/rendering issue in WvW that keeps them invisible forever unless they don’t understand how to use stealth after revealed debuff.

What is a unicorn specced thief?

Yeah there have to be more staves for instance. Anyone know more recipes for staves?

You guys make me laugh, all your whinging and denials are just more grist for our motivation.

As soon as guesting is implemented is when it should happen.

TsukasaHiiragi.9730:

This is one of the main reasons the game has problems ~ forcing everyone to become gold farmers. Essentially, if you don’t want to farm gold for x hours per day – you might as well quit the game because you’re not going to get anything now.

Its been said before but a big problem with anet is that they make a game that encourages us to farm then they try to nerf legitimate farming. This after stating in the response to the diminishing returns controversy that they wanted players to be able to legitimately farm.

scepter fire could use some help as well.

wombat.6123:

Urrid.4593:

Your “elite squads” and self-congratulatory manner are why I personally lead attacks on your Borderlands, it has nothing to do with Yaks and everything to do with Q_Q.

Ironic, a post QQing about other people QQing. Good job, you win.

Hmm so explaining why he dislikes a server is now QQing.

Just remember perception is truth.

Darksidhe.6740:

Changes on the client side can be applied somewhat server side.
Many other games have dealt with this problem far more successfully.

GW2 has dealt with it far more effectively given the problem wasn’t there in the BWEs or at launch.

Jrunyon.3012:

W
WvW
- Gear means nothing since most of the time its about who has the bigger group

This is incorrect since WvW is evolving into multiple smaller groups.

Yeah if you want to be an aoe bomber glyph of storms is a must. aoe blind in earth form, aoe chill in water form ……………….

I personally think a cantrip based build is a better boon generator for staff eles. Mine is 10/10/0/30/20 with the relevant cantrip based traits chosen.

The solution for ascended versus exotic gear is pretty simple IMHO, I’ve seen this suggested on other forums and I think here as well, provide runes which upgrade existing exotic armor to the ascended level.

Enzomiles.6197:

But things are changing to try to cater to a bigger audience but it’s a huge mistake because it’s not possible to make both styles happy. GW2 is moving towards wow light and GW2 is going to be second rate because wow does this style better.

I could not agree more, all they’re doing is alienating their core audience and the WoW type audience will leave for the next new shiny anyway.

GW was a fairly big success, with the cash shop bringing in more revenue I can’t see why they would be unhappy with the same type of success with GW2.

Healix.5819:

Ascended items are unique and fixed, so what they give you is what you get. If every option was intended, they would be more like exotics. This is the downside of ascended items and why a full set is not always better.

Agreed if it must be here I hope it stays with very limited stat combinations.

Leonard.2867:

Maybe there is a common ground that can be reached to where both sides can have cake and eat it too. If we look at other mmos with gear progressions, we find that the gear itself acts as a key to enter new content, thus creating a gated community. So new gear creates a sense of progression through the game. Guild Wars 2 on the other hand is a scaled universe. No amount of stat progression is going to make a player anymore powerful in any zone. Guild Wars 2 wants to focus around the player and not the gear.

IMHO GW2 before ascended items was a compromise, in that even the easily obtainable exotic items are a grind just an acceptable one.

fefner.5729:

This time next year id say the game will be in trouble when TESO comes out. By the time they fix WvW and PvP all the pvpers would of quit and TESO has pvp progression which this game needed form the start.

I agree with this, anet has until then to get it right because there is no doubt teso will take the majority of their player base if they don’t.

proxy.7963:

With all due respect, the response to this has been explosive, and although I have no doubt your input could have provided some value to discussions, I also doubt that it was noticed through the hundreds of posts repeating the same concerns. Repetition has resulted in the entire topic becoming white noise and while we may end up in a situation where ANet is able to salvage some of the player input and actually implement it, it’s still a difficult situation to navigate

I don’t think it is, while there has been a lot of whining and repetition the core themes of players concerns are coming through loud and clear.

Vlad Morbius.1759:

Well the further i get into testing each different scenario the more I’m convinced this is a bug because it truly is the exact opposite of the patch notes. I know everyone is away for the holidays but i hope this gets flagged and dealt with Monday. The more detailed the information the better so i encourage others to post their findings and keep this bug visible.

I hope people have reported this then.

Its been mooted on the forums that there will be some sort of scavenger hunt for precursor weapons. Is this going to occur and when?

Do you still adhere to your manifesto of default max stat items being easy to obtain?
If so how do you reconcile this with the long grind to obtain current ascended items?

When will other ascended items be made available?
Will specific world vs world ascended items be made available?

What are your plans to attract players to keep playing other explorable mode dungeons apart from fractals of the mist given the rewards from fractals will see players giving preference to playing it over other dungeons?

Since the event Southsun Cove doesn’t have much to attract lvl 80 players from Fractals or Orr, will you be adding more dynamic events to Southsun Cove?

You have created a beautiful world and its a shame to have lvl 80 players shut off by playing fractals. Do you want lvl 80 players to keep playing open world dynamic events as an alternative to fractals?
If so how do plan to keep genuine lvl 80 players doing dynamic events?
Can you see yourselves relaxing the anti DE farming mechanisms to allow players to get equal rewards to fractals?

What are your future plans to improve staff and scepter elementalists?

Syfin.6875:

Thank you for the great answers. I now understand. But now it makes me wonder. How would horizontal progression not become stale. It sounds like you arent working towards anything beneficial to your character… Does the game stay interesting. If so, how?

By releasing new content, by playing in WvW or sPvP which are dynamic experiences, by adding new dynamic events. Even say adding new utility or weapon skills which are different but not more powerful is horizontal progression.

Mackdose.6504:

But that’s wrong. I’ve seen players go through all of the content in 80 rares to level 13. That doesn’t seem very gated to me.

I’m not going to miss a +5 here or +5 there, and it’s not mandatory to have those slim increases when practicing positioning for DPS up-time would make you more effective.

Fractals is a minor issue to me, the major issue is deviating from the manifesto in terms of gear grind for max stats which will make a difference in other areas of the game like WvW. When there are infused ascended pieces for all wearable gear and the difference to stats will be more like +100, which is significant.

Mackdose.6504:

Just because I don’t agree with the bandwagon doesn’t mean I’m coming from a place of ignorance. Since you wanted to bring up logical fallacies, how’s that slippery slope?

Doesn’t make you right either, the manifesto is 100% clear on this issue.

Raf.1078:

The forums here are rampant with other agendas. .

Other agendas like wanting to play the game anet promised with max stat gear being easy to obtain and limiting grinding to cosmetics you mean.

JumblyJebus.5903:

ill repeat? theyll add more. relax nerd.

Why wouldn’t they launch it with content? How do you know they’ve add it?

francisling.2987:

In my opinion, Plinx, Pent and Farming problems are much more serious than that. They killed Casual ‘Endgame’ Farming. And now I have to drag myself through an hour of Dungeon for something decent.

This, the game is designed around dynamic events and being able to casually join and leave them, its losing that with the fractals dungeon and the increase in rewards in it over Orr etc.

What they should do is design other level 80 areas which have decent events to attract and spread the population, and SouthsunCove aint it from what I’ve seen because of the lack of events.

proteininja.5891:

What I am concerned about is that the game teaches me that I can get carrion armor, carrion weapons, and carrion jewelry all at max stats, but I cannot get a carrion back item at max stats. Why?

I’ve had a rabid back piece drop but its masterwork not rare or exotic.

Stiv.1820:

The problem with that is if you compare the karma path to what is currently available, all PvE players will also choose Karma. It will have to be badges or some large WvW monthly type quest thing.

A monthly quest would be OK but no to badges based on the prices of invader gear. The prices for exotic invader gear are ridiculous and seem to be based on a far higher badge drop rate than 99% of players could achieve in a reasonable time frame.

postman.6915:

pretty sure Anet already said that Ascended gear will be attainable outside of FotM, and specifically mentioned WvW…….

And to any devs reading this, when it becomes available in WvW please make the price reasonable, preferably via karma, after all there is not meant to be any grinding for max stats.

wombat.6123:

6000 badges for a full set is too much, but on the other hand you want a full set of exotics for 500 badges…you’ve got to be kidding right?

Nope, getting 500 badges is a far more lengthy process than getting say 252,000 karma. Plus there are the class imbalances which means some classes have a clear advantage in terms of the amount of badges they earn.

Bleeds.4029:

Seen the joint effort of Yak and TC working together twice now in person. It’s a bit lame, but makes us FA feel good to know we are that much of a threat.

This whinging does FA no credit.

lcc.9374:

the exact number of how much badges it should cost is up to debate, and id happily give 1000 badges too for a ring anyway, 500 sounds more right though

500 per piece adds up to 6000 badges for a full set, that is ridiculous. I’d take 500 for a full set.

zargnath.9524:

Yeah, was disapointed abot no Ascended questions. But I guess the forum already have a few answers for that.

There was space to add comments. I made sure my distaste for it was put across.

Thanks for the link because the link in my email didn’t work. Well done ncsoft/anet.

Snoring Sleepwalker.9073:

Let them leave. Plenty of non-MMOs make money with players who finish the game and stop playing till the next DLC/title in the series comes out. With no subscription fee, why can’t GW2 do the same ?

And the thing is they’re probably going to leave soon anyway when the next mmo arrives.

Bruno Sardine.2907:

They’ve already stated they’re gonna make obtaining Ascended gear possible for WvW… they just haven’t implemented it right away.

Based on the cost of current ascended items and the cost of exotic invaders gear it will be something ridiculous like 2000 badges. That would be unacceptable.

What are the stats on the backpiece to warrant such a ridiculous cost?

Re Fractals for the love of good allow players who disconnect to rejoin their party in the fractal. My first time in and a party member disconnected twice. We spent 2.5 horus without managing to progress because of that.

Arheundel.6451:

The double water dodge was a bug..how else would you justify people healing themself for 5k every 10s without counting main heal?

And if they only changed that then there would be far fewer complaints. But they didn’t.

LeelooMultipass.9742:

I’ve always been the voice of reason telling others to calm down and relax when things go wrong because Anet cares about its players and will never disappoint us in the end. Now…I’m just sad. Very sad. I never expected this at all.

They clearly don’t care. This was obviously done for 1 reason, to bring down the prices of precursors, protecting their precious auction house and the revenue they get from it and the players can get stuffed. I find it remarkable the total lack of consideration and shortsightedness they are displaying.

This event was basically a disaster: from the glitched npcs in the first 2 phases which meant I couldn’t finish and move on to doing Miyani’s quest; to the final one time event where it appears loot tables were altered to provide high level loot yet this was not highlighted beforehand and was extremely difficult for someone in my timezone to do given that it occurred on a working day.

To have skins as a reward is one thing but to basically give away exotics and have a greatly increased chance of getting a precursor on a one time event which was at a time inconvenient to a large number of your players is a slap in the face to those players.