With so many people upset about the same thing it becomes difficult to keep the forum in order. I wonder though, if they had not merged all the threads, what % of threads would be people unhappy with the idea of Ascended gear. Quite a lot I imagine
Just goes to show listening to people posting on forums is a terrible way to get “feedback” on your game. The amount of “feedback” they are getting now shows what a terrible idea this was, yet for the past 8 weeks there were soooo many threads asking for exactly this type of thing.
Before Ascended gear: Nothing wrong with game, everyone quite happy and playing it. Only a few idiot WoW kiddies moaning about “progression” when they finished the game by playing it 12 hours a day, 7 days a week for 2 months. The community largely ignores them, Arenanet… Listens to them??
After Ascended gear: NO. WE DO NOT WANT THIS. Everyone who never normally posts on the forum comes along and rages. Hopefully, Arenanet… Listens to us??
Why every MMO developer insists on killing their child to appease the lord of themepark MMO’s is beyond me.
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Haltus, I can see your point (I’m not against or for this idea), but you know you can look at it in the different way too. For example, engineers are renowned for their intellect and ingenuity and therefore can use a special type of ammo (which they’ve invented) which does not kick like all others and therefore can shoot from hip and faster, while warriors have to use regular ammo which kicks like horse.
I’m not saying that it meant to be that way, but you can always find a reason why it is one way and not other or why it should be the other way and not the current one. It’s just matter of opinion.
Certainly not impossible, in that Tryia physics might not be reflective of RL physics; but like the blunderbuss argument, I’d say that’s a pretty huge stretch.
What we do know about the engineer’s rifle ammo:
1) They use cartridge ammunition; bullet, powder, and primer are all contained by a casing, making the 4 components one single unit. This is opposed to having to pour the powder into the gun; then inserting the projectile; then igniting the powder with a flint or something.
2) When fired, bullets move at speeds comparable to those fired from RL firearms. (very, very fast).
How do we know this?
1) If you fire a rifle while standing on a hard surface such as stone or metal, you will hear the casing hit the ground immediately after firing.
2) When fired, the rifle makes the iconic ‘bang’ that RL guns do. This sound occurs because of the bullet traveling faster than the speed of sound.
Why is this important?
1) The design and mechanics of Tyrian firearms are modeled after RL firearms to an extent that we can reasonably assume that the only difference are polygons.
2) If the bullet is propelled out of one end of the gun with a great amount of force; the gun itself will be propelled in the opposite direction with equal force. Since the mass of a firearm is much greater than the mass of the bullet it fires; and because the surface area of the butt of the firearm which contacts the shooter is much greater than the surface area of the bullet which contacts the target; the gun moving one direction has much less potential to cause damage to things like flesh and bone than does the bullet traveling in the other direction – BUT the force of the gun moving, recoil, is still enough to cause discomfort or minor damage even when used correctly (refer to the ‘bruised shoulder’ incident mentioned in a previous post); so, when used incorrectly, such as firing from the hip, the only things there to absorb the force of the recoil are the hand gripping the forestock of the firearm (not a noteworthy amount of force absorption) and the trigger finger of the other hand, when the trigger guard snaps back against it. The most likely results of that are that are the hand holding the forestock moving back a bit, or not moving at all as the forestock slips through it; and the trigger finger and nearby body parts such as the hand and wrist being broken/dislocated/at the very least, struck hard enough to cause considerable discomfort (compare to hitting your thumb with a hammer).
Therefore, again barring the possibility that Tyrian physics are not reflective of our own (things like the speed of sound, for example, may be different in Tyria than it is IRL… however, this is never established in lore, so I see no reason to take such possibility into account), we can infer that the ammo used by engineers not different to a noteworthy degree than the ammo we use IRL; that things like recoil are just as much present in Tyria as they are IRL; and that firing such a weapon from the hip would be just as bad an idea in Tyria as it is IRL, hence our request for the animation/ability name to be changed to the more logical shoulder-fire.
And all that isn’t taking into account the loss of accuracy when firing from the hip vs using the sights/scope, which is reason enough not to fire from the hip.
…and holy kitten I think I just set a new personal record for over-analyzing a videogame
I think everyone knows that hipfiring isn’t realistic by now, shouldn’t hold much weight in a fantasy MMO still.
But saying that, anything that detracts from immersion and looks stupid to a lot of people should be considered as a possible flaw.
Out of all the pro hipfire people, would you guys actually mind if the engineer fired the rifle/shotgun/blunderbuss whatever in a less stylised manner?
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