Guild Wars 2

erm, wel condition removal is al great and stuff, but i am playing a glamour mesmer and destroy entire zergs with confusion…believe me removal wont work fast enough
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yTbyG5rHK9k
and yes our guild got destroyed by that too
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hEXLb8eiKt8

Thiefz.3695:

I would ask, what was your opinion about the breakout events? They are a part of the balancing solution and gave players impenetrable siege. That’s quite a benefit.

erm apart from the fact that a zerg of 40+ will use the outbreak too and siegrazer keeps respawning right away if u dont leave him alive…

btw if u need your daily healer, stick around siegrazer…

btw DO NOT GO into jp when facing DB during NNK prime time unless u wanna get steamrolled by 40 + angry DB s XD

Henrik.7560:

I think it is time we had a rating reset, just look at how dull the matches are. I remember the good old times every week was different, should be like that again. Leave the europe ones, theirs is fine but I Strongly thing NA need more attention.

http://mos.millenium.org/matchups#NA
Look at next weeks match

erm so u dont mind then if a tier 1 server gets to tier 8 and trashes the other 2 servers for a week and then the next week a tier 7 server moves to tier 3 and gets destroyed all week long………FA woud have ended up in tier 5 last time they wanted a reset and our enemies would have been from tier 6 and 8…all the tier 1 servers would have beeen in tier 4….and a few low tier servers would have ended up in t2 with t3 and t2 servers…..this would have taken weeeeks till the balance was back again.or would u like to get destroyed for 3 to 7 weeks?

what i would love to see would be more than just a rank and more leveling and abilities for guilds in wvw, something that makes it worth to try to win the match in each tier, not just be nr. i mean like rewards for character and guilds.right now i think that the server who reached nr1 doesnt mean anything…winning only means something if u try and have the chance to move up.

dont forget the peg leg and spike fruit.Feedback works great with spike fruit and gear as it bounces back and hits them instead of u(hillarious to watch btw).our guild does refuse to use them though.I’d rather win a battle with my skills than attack with cheap little tactics.I don’t think that a skilled player will use this.

I am sure Anet will put a stop to that and i know a lot of people are getting frustrated and impatient. I personally try to look forward to future changes and people lets face it wvw is a very very big part of GW2, but thats why it is really hard to change everything right away. there is a huge amount of players on the same map,that is not even closely as big as a pve map.im sure they know that there is tons of stuff to be fixed and updated.
I also think that they didn’t expect such massive zergs so fast and the demand is very very high. I have had a lot of impatient moments myself, but as i know about programming…wvw is way more complex than all the pve.

Truearrow.3527:

IRSyKo.5843:

Truearrow.3527:

Ambush Maguuma style. Ya Dig? http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=s9YPxEku1Gg since the first post got infracted. Dont know why they showed up a second time at the same door but thanks for the badges.

Looks like you killed 6 or 7 guys with like 7 ballistas and 5 arrow carts.

Good job

Yeah we learned it from FA. What is the lesson? There is NO overkill, only kill. Seeing you guys do things like bringing Omegas to a garrison that you know is defended by 6 people, waiting till the wee hours of the morning to bring 40+ people to our BL for PVDoor, indeed, good job. The whole point of the video, which you seemed to have missed is WHY would you come back the second time to a door that you know is a meat grinder?

so u were whispering our commander. In fact we didn’t know how many were in there and built the golem way before. Our commander told us in ts that one of u guys was whisperin him and telling him off.Erm, u know that you are wayyyyy over exaggerating when saying 40+. I run with PRO, AVTR and uA all the time and have not seen a 40+ vs 6 yet apart from AVTR frighting a zerg of 40+NNK.When the thing with the omega happened we were around 20.

saiyr.3071:

selan.8354:

kfarb.6732:

Ninein.4782:

Pinko.2076:

Ninein.4782:

Yea I try to speak out against the trolls who are critical of players learning the ropes. I think more just need to speak out.

I don’t know if trolling is why people don’t follow commanders. I think most old Maguuma players are just so used to no icons that we auto pilot on what we should be doing based on that map, so sometimes icons get ignored.

That does happen especially when the threat isn’t great. But often times, new commanders are shamed and embarrased publicly so that they don’t leave their icon on. THey don’t end up leading much and learning much. The server is then dependent on the playing schedule of a few well known commanders. This is just to point out that there is an attitude issue with some players on Maguuma against newbies and it hurts the server in the long run.

Commanders shouldn’t turn on their icons when they want to learn. They should turn on their icons once they know what they’re doing.

erm, that doesn’t make sense whatsoever! How can a commander practice being a commander with out having a tag on that attracts not only his guildmembers, but also pugs?

We have a couple of commanders, that where new, but really good players and our community seems to feel at ease when they see commander icons in BL. Now i agree in EB, it gets a little crazy as there are like 4 to 8 commanders on and some of them i wouldn’t follow, because i don’t really know them. If i don’t wanna follow them just join a commanders squad or do whatever u like. Let them have their tag. Tag doesn’t mean to blindly follow.

While I agree that that sentence isn’t right, I think his real point was that when people new to WvW come in with icons and are very assertive in what they’re doing, even when it’s plainly a bad move, they’re doing it wrong. I’ve seen a few of these guys pop out of the woodwork and it’s really annoying. You don’t need to preach to us that we don’t need to blindly follow icons because we usually don’t, but there are almost always people who do follow icons blindly, and that is a net loss for us. New commanders need to admit that they are new and be willing to take advice, and they also need to not be so unknown to the WvW population to at least inspire some amount of confidence. For example, Montzor from NOVA is a pretty new commander, but I’ve seen him around so long that I know he’s at least a reasonable person. Some of the others? Not so much.

Yeah i know what u mean. we had a bunch of commanders, that didn’t know what they were doing. one was trying to take bluelake for over 45 minutes and attracted most of our people on the map. meanwhile garrison got golemrushed twice and only 3 people were defending it(Thank god there are superior arowcarts, so we were able to pushem off). When addressing commander to lay ff that tower, the response was, well go and buy a badge then if u want people to listen.

there will always be some commanders that have a big chip on their shoulder, but don’t know what they are doing. But or community has adjusted well and people recognize the good ones. Community ts,vent or mumble will be helpful with that too

kfarb.6732:

Ninein.4782:

Pinko.2076:

Ninein.4782:

Yea I try to speak out against the trolls who are critical of players learning the ropes. I think more just need to speak out.

I don’t know if trolling is why people don’t follow commanders. I think most old Maguuma players are just so used to no icons that we auto pilot on what we should be doing based on that map, so sometimes icons get ignored.

That does happen especially when the threat isn’t great. But often times, new commanders are shamed and embarrased publicly so that they don’t leave their icon on. THey don’t end up leading much and learning much. The server is then dependent on the playing schedule of a few well known commanders. This is just to point out that there is an attitude issue with some players on Maguuma against newbies and it hurts the server in the long run.

Commanders shouldn’t turn on their icons when they want to learn. They should turn on their icons once they know what they’re doing.

erm, that doesn’t make sense whatsoever! How can a commander practice being a commander with out having a tag on that attracts not only his guildmembers, but also pugs?

We have a couple of commanders, that where new, but really good players and our community seems to feel at ease when they see commander icons in BL. Now i agree in EB, it gets a little crazy as there are like 4 to 8 commanders on and some of them i wouldn’t follow, because i don’t really know them. If i don’t wanna follow them just join a commanders squad or do whatever u like. Let them have their tag. Tag doesn’t mean to blindly follow.

xxxzavulonxxx.8413:

Fact is DB and Mag have equally been awfully shy about going into FA’s BL….

erm, so what about the 45 + NNK every night, the ninja golemrush attempts from MAG at garrison and hills and on reset nights we normally have both of u in our bl.

errm vid here 10 taking down 30 or more…
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yTbyG5rHK9k

its not that zergs are always winning our guild flanks and destroys zergs way larger than us. Now imagine us with outmanned buff and with boosts ………

Maniac.5163:

selan.8354:

well this is what happens when a uA, PRO and AVTR gets together, takes off gear and builds a forest….well we dont do flameram forests though…

and yes it went alllll the way to our spawn

I was just going to use like 20 blueprints. Jet took it to a whole new level of awesome. And thus, the Great Barrier of Fort Herpndrrpnwod was born.

ahahaha and it was like 30 alphas…btw the db guy from {WAR] ty for having fun too.

well this is what happens when a uA, PRO and AVTR gets together, takes off gear and builds a forest….well we dont do flameram forests though…

and yes it went alllll the way to our spawn

JaNordy.6149:

There is some terrible notion that Mag is full of elite players. This is very false, 90% of Mag is braindead and other 10% carries that 90%. GearWers2.
http://imgur.com/a/ygA8c

omg that just made my day!I couldnt stop laughing!

mpspm.9036:

Vi Au.8341:

LOCO.1785:

saiyr.3071:

I am not making excuses. I really don’t care if we’re losing. Just like you are sick of excuses, I am sick of people from your server pretending you’re “above” the “underhanded tactics” from other servers. So let me flip your question back at you, why would Drgn resort to spying on us?

Edit: I also wouldn’t have said anything if you weren’t being so self-righteous, because we actually don’t care that much either.

All I did was point out the obvious of FA not needing to resort to such tactics and also that I’ve personally never come across any these exploits being used by FA. If you took offense to that, I don’t know what to say.

As for an answer to your question:

As a regular commander in Drgn, I can tell you that if we have people spying on your mumble it’s for their own humor, not for tactical purposes. Or possibly for our humor. I’ve heard people talk about this, but we haven’t had active spies since Pending was around. Even then, it was because Pending enjoyed the social aspect of the game… recruiting/spying/guild amalgamation.

We all good now buddy?

As much as you claim there is no one on your server that would resort to spying, I have a hard time believing that. When we moved our golems from our spawn to behind the windmill (you guys owned the south camp btw) 5-10 Drgn came running at us. If you didnt resort to spying, i would love to know what kind of scouting you guys have so we can also use that on Mag.

I am a Drgn commander and i can tell you we do not resort to spying on your voip, as strange as it may seem, i would say you guys were in the wrong place at the wrong time.

i can second this. we love to keep a few people around every camp for scouting.

kash.9213:

MrLT.6028:

Seriously Maguuma, how many are there of you that just spam gears. My kitten combat log reads…throw, throw, throw, throw, throw

I rarely remember to buy food when I get time to log on, other then that I just mooch off of Myguuma. I can pretty much guarantee the people I know who are upgrading and placing siege and keeping the server alive aren’t going to spare any change on gears.

if u have a mesmer in your group try feedback and u get a good laugh when they throw gear.

omg omg we are at 5 pages and the thread hasn’t been closed yet!btw epic fights last night with db in our bl.

vespers.1759:

my ranger in full zerk can do a 7k rapid fire assuming every shot lands and enough vulnerability on a light armor uplevel. usually closer to 4k.

a thief can do 7k dmg by hitting 2 and also hit 2 repeatedly on no cooldown. 7K! 14K! 21k!

BAM.

well honestly i wanted to roll a thief before,but when i saw that u just have to press 2 buttons i changed my mind. I’d rather create an awesome combo with my mesmer or warrior and feel good after.(btw whe ever i win a 1v1 vs a good player i will bow to them for being a good player and not once i have bowed to a thief i killed)

lol and another thief thread….well i think that out of all the classes thief is pretty easy as u only have to spam 1 ans 2 to kill another player and have like no cooldowns whatsoever.If i see a perma stealth thief i walk away as i can’t be bothered to chase an invisible dude that uses the same 2 buttons over and over, but if they get annoying, hello feedback,veil,nullfield, temporal curtain and chaos storm and hounds of balthazar to finish thief off.

but hey u want easy gameplay…

http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=Hh5zjK7ITpQ#!

idk, but maybe u need to change your build. see how someone uses staff and scepter/focus here
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ur1D5GeIFa8

u see here that it is all about the confusion here. for pve i recommend something like a strong power based build with lots of clones to shatter.
a mesmer is more about the abilities than the weapons. I love using nr 2 staff as it saves your life quite often. my combo goes like this. ill run into a zerg with scepter/focus cast feedback and nullfield, then use temporal curtain to pull enemies through the glamfields again, switch to staff nr2 to back off, cast staff nr4 and then use nr5 to finish downed players, then u switch back to scepter and use nr 2 which can deal confusion dmg up to 5k and finish downed players with scepter 3 and scepter 5.
what im saying is, mesmers have very powerful utility skills that can be a death traps. if you are more shatter based u will use your weapons more to cast clones and evade attcks as your weapon in fact are the clones. In my case, i do shatter of course but my weapon skills do support my glam build. and there is sooo many different builds that have to be aligned with your armor and weapons.
glamour build has barely any weapon power as we all stack precision,toughness condition dmg. If u want to deal more dmg with like GS u want to stack power in traits and armor.try out what works best for u and im sure u will find weapons more useful.

its funny how the severs that are perma stunning everyone to win a fight are defending it with a new thread. Maybe they havent been hit hard enough with those consumables.

Invalid.8765:

selan.8354:

kfarb.6732:

Mesmers can portal past gates and walls. You should search for them and kill them, then watch their bodies in case a friend attempts to resurrect them. Someone on your server likely knows some of the common mesmer hiding spots in the various keeps and towers. Ask them for a tour sometime.

u dont get it do u?the mesmer died right at the watergate and was rezzed from outsinde and placed the portal at that gate from inside and did portal them in without going outside so basically through the wall and yes we were there watching as u can see in the pics. we did kill mesmer during the sweep. before answering u might wanna check what was going on none rezed him from inside! he died purposely on that spot so he could get rezzed through he wall.

What was edited? I was hoping it was grammar so I could attempt to read this but I have been let down

erm english is not my frist language so no need to be picky yeah.Its my 4th!!!

kfarb.6732:

Mesmers can portal past gates and walls. You should search for them and kill them, then watch their bodies in case a friend attempts to resurrect them. Someone on your server likely knows some of the common mesmer hiding spots in the various keeps and towers. Ask them for a tour sometime.

u dont get it do u?the mesmer died right at the watergate and was rezzed from outsinde and placed the portal at that gate from inside and did portal them in without going outside so basically through the wall and yes we were there watching as u can see in the pics. we did kill mesmer during the sweep. before answering u might wanna check what was going on none rezed him from inside! he died purposely on that spot so he could get rezzed through he wall.

Pvp.2758:

If you removed PVE from WVW then they would have to remove Ascended too, and you know that’s not going to happen.

there is a huge difference between ascended and stuff like gear. gear is a weapon that shouldnt be used in wvw but using gear u have to do dailies for should be fine otherwise why should a wvw playef bother to do dailies anyways.the only reason we do it is for ascended gear.

yup my friend got permastunned tho his death 4 times in a row but then 2 mesmers came along with him and we used feedback on him. the funny thing was they got reflected and hit his own teammates. XD

its a gear that is bought in pve and stuns up to 5 targets only mesmers and guardians have a slight chance to protect themselves with feedback and reflection walls. itk if u could try swirling winds but that would be crazy if u had to fight with a focus just because some people wanna play dirty!

@NNK u guys have a really big zerg at night 30 to 50 if not more, so why do u all have to use the gear? u want to permastun people so they cant fight even though u outnumber us 3v1 around a certain time?wow…sorry but i only respect zergs that have skill and honor. u seem to not have that earned in my point of view.
if u want a real fight drop the consumables that arent supposed to be used in wvw and i might change my mind.

oh and btw you were featured by AVTR 40nnk vs 15avtr
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yTbyG5rHK9k

EnRohbi.2187:

John Widdin.9618:

How did Aspenwood let you do that? I thought they had a night presence.

I gotta be honest, I’m not entirely sure. We weren’t allowed to do this the first week we fought them.
I feel like FA’s night presence has slacked off since then.

MY THEORY is that after FA’s mass transfers from IoJ, there was a boom of motivation for participation in wvw that may have died off a little now when the transfers realized that transfering from one higher tier server to another higher tier server didn’t really change anything.

erm this is not the night presence it is the early morning in California 6am time where NNK shows up with 50 to 100 people and takes everything. Pretty much every night the same thing nnk mass zergs everything on every map and then runs off. we can even predict when we are resisting and actually awake when the golemrushes arrive. so by 7am pst we will be outmanned by a giant zerg in our bl and sometimes we just dont care to stay up.
our night crew in fact acquired over 400ppt before logging off. So night crew is doing pretty good.
As long as PRO and AVTR and some TSI are on nnk wont be able to mass zerg everything, but hey we all gotta sleep u see. but before we go to bed we usually do things like this
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yTbyG5rHK9k

Only a WvW player yells at people trying to kill the npc siegerazor so the breakout event doesn’t start again

Evalana.5480:

Sir William PD.9615

Hey OG, can you change your guild name to just “Gankstars”? There’s nothing original about you at all, not even the sound of your whine. I mean, it’s cool if you want to gank people and call yourselves gankers, but you’re not very orginal…at all.

^^^ doesn’t understand the word play.

I don’t mind having a nice fight vs someone unless it is a thif that permastealths or a mesmer that runs away tho his friends that gank you right away. Ikittenneed 10 people trying to hit 1 thief that is only visible for 2 or 3 sec, i will just walk away as it is not a good fight to begin with. if u need 6 to kill 1 mesmer go ahead, but if i have an epic fight with somone i don’t mind losing or if i win bow in the end. I have enjoyed some pretty epic 1v1 this week.

i dont think it is zerg video only [hel] has shown some pretty good tactics with portaling behind the attacking enemy and all that. very nice videos Helioz.

Dynnen.6405:

selan.8354:

Dynnen.6405:

selan.8354:

dank.3680:

selan.8354:

Supersun.4603:

selan.8354:

selan.8354:

if u have gotten 5000 dmg then it was a crit and u must have run into th nullfield that was placed together with th bubble.

I ment crit from the other player, he basically hit himself crit.

You have no idea how confusion works, do you.

Oh i do, the higher the attack you are using on us the higher the dmg u are dealing on yourself if it is a projectile. I dont know if u can crit yourslef but i get pretty high numbers but not up to 5000 by dodging. I don’t know but vs certain players like thieves i get crazy numbers though. Btw I love rare veggie pizzas that increase condition dmg and duration.;-) (uh-oh next thing the op wants to nerf.

lol really? You play a glamour Mesmer and you don’t even have a clue how it works.. Amazing..

oh have u? have u seen the numbers u get with feedback? people using projectiles hit themself as it reflects them. the confuion ticks are pretty much different but it is still the same thing like hitting yourself the more u attack the more u hit yourself thats how it works. chaos armore, veil, portals, nullfield and feedback. but like i said condition dmg by itself doesent need to be nerfed as without any combo or the right trait it is nowhere near as effectife. btw ENglish is not my foirst language and it is really hard to explain this properly u have to try out a glamour build for yourself and then lets see.

Sry that English wasn’t ur first language. But we’re not talking about reflecting projectiles, we’re talking about confusion. Hense all the “You have no idea what you’re talking about comments”.

I know that but when u get destroyed you are not only dying by confusion. When i use feedback and nullfield I get confusion per tick it will be around 625 to 1900 combined with the regular dmg caused by it but this is what u get u see it in this video where our guild got destroyed by avtr.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hEXLb8eiKt8

check for yourself

Again we’re only talking about confusion. Stay on target or gtfo

yes and so was i talking about confusion and how confusion does not kill someone alone with confusion and u will need other attacks to finish targets off because confusion is in fact not op. so i am satying on target and in this viseo u see confusion glamour mesmers fighting. the only thing op about it is that all of them use confusion attacks at the same time. confusion by itself is not op and should not be nerfed. btw if u dont wanna listen to other mesmers why even be here to attack everyone who talks about it. i am talking about confusion and btw feedback is a big big part of that with the right build.

Dynnen.6405:

selan.8354:

dank.3680:

selan.8354:

Supersun.4603:

selan.8354:

selan.8354:

if u have gotten 5000 dmg then it was a crit and u must have run into th nullfield that was placed together with th bubble.

I ment crit from the other player, he basically hit himself crit.

You have no idea how confusion works, do you.

Oh i do, the higher the attack you are using on us the higher the dmg u are dealing on yourself if it is a projectile. I dont know if u can crit yourslef but i get pretty high numbers but not up to 5000 by dodging. I don’t know but vs certain players like thieves i get crazy numbers though. Btw I love rare veggie pizzas that increase condition dmg and duration.;-) (uh-oh next thing the op wants to nerf.

lol really? You play a glamour Mesmer and you don’t even have a clue how it works.. Amazing..

oh have u? have u seen the numbers u get with feedback? people using projectiles hit themself as it reflects them. the confuion ticks are pretty much different but it is still the same thing like hitting yourself the more u attack the more u hit yourself thats how it works. chaos armore, veil, portals, nullfield and feedback. but like i said condition dmg by itself doesent need to be nerfed as without any combo or the right trait it is nowhere near as effectife. btw ENglish is not my foirst language and it is really hard to explain this properly u have to try out a glamour build for yourself and then lets see.

Sry that English wasn’t ur first language. But we’re not talking about reflecting projectiles, we’re talking about confusion. Hense all the “You have no idea what you’re talking about comments”.

I know that but when u get destroyed you are not only dying by confusion. When i use feedback and nullfield I get confusion per tick it will be around 625 to 1900 combined with the regular dmg caused by it but this is what u get u see it in this video where our guild got destroyed by avtr.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hEXLb8eiKt8

check for yourself

dank.3680:

selan.8354:

Supersun.4603:

selan.8354:

selan.8354:

if u have gotten 5000 dmg then it was a crit and u must have run into th nullfield that was placed together with th bubble.

I ment crit from the other player, he basically hit himself crit.

You have no idea how confusion works, do you.

Oh i do, the higher the attack you are using on us the higher the dmg u are dealing on yourself if it is a projectile. I dont know if u can crit yourslef but i get pretty high numbers but not up to 5000 by dodging. I don’t know but vs certain players like thieves i get crazy numbers though. Btw I love rare veggie pizzas that increase condition dmg and duration.;-) (uh-oh next thing the op wants to nerf.

lol really? You play a glamour Mesmer and you don’t even have a clue how it works.. Amazing..

oh have u? have u seen the numbers u get with feedback? people using projectiles hit themself as it reflects them. the confuion ticks are pretty much different but it is still the same thing like hitting yourself the more u attack the more u hit yourself thats how it works. chaos armore, veil, portals, nullfield and feedback. but like i said condition dmg by itself doesent need to be nerfed as without any combo or the right trait it is nowhere near as effectife. btw ENglish is not my foirst language and it is really hard to explain this properly u have to try out a glamour build for yourself and then lets see.

Supersun.4603:

selan.8354:

selan.8354:

if u have gotten 5000 dmg then it was a crit and u must have run into th nullfield that was placed together with th bubble.

I ment crit from the other player, he basically hit himself crit.

You have no idea how confusion works, do you.

Oh i do, the higher the attack you are using on us the higher the dmg u are dealing on yourself if it is a projectile.

oh just realized u guys were talking about he confusion stacks ticks, I am talking about feedback bubble and the confusion ticks. The confusion ticks are high but n feedback reflects protjectiles back at u and as I have the trait that causes confusion every time u enter or exit a glamfield which still doesent cause dmg unless u attack. there is that scepter trait called Illusionary Counter is one of our many defense skills and clone summons. While channeling, if struck it summons a clone that cast Ether Bolt. You can also use it before the channeling is over to blind enemies in a line (this takes advantage of our Blinding Befuddlement trait). This trait is gonna cause quite big confusion dmg number! The feedback bubble reflects all projectiles and next to that u get confusion stacks that tick. what im talking about is feedback!

I like this thread! A lot of people complain about everything, but wvw is the first time I really enjoy playing vs others. I like first person shooters but in mmo’s i normally go for the pve, but fell in love with wvw!

Dynnen.6405:

selan.8354:

EvilSardine.9635:

Yep, confusion needs to be nerfed. Even my friend who has a mesmer says so. If you’re saying otherwise, then you’re silly and have ZERO experience fighting a good confusion mesmer. Atleast lower it to the damage it does in PvP. In WvW the damage is just absurd. Like 8 stacks or so of confusion on a warrior will do a ridiculous 5,000 damage just because he DODGE ROLLS….you know to avoid more confusion attacks.

We’ve done done tests using classes with as many condition removals as possible and the good mesmer can keep confusion on you the entire time. You can be a warrior with mending, shake it off (letting auto trait trigger then using it manually after), and rune of the soldier so conditions are removed when you use a shout, and you will still have constant confusion put on you. It’s too easy to apply.

It’s pretty obvious it needs to be tweaked in WvW. Damage is cut down by 50% in PvP. You cannot argue that it doesn’t need balancing if Anet already did it for PvP.

if u have gotten 5000 dmg then it was a crit and u must have run into th nullfield that was placed together with th bubble. we put both fields down at the same time so it causes more dmg.i dodge out of enemiy mesmers bubble all the time and don’t get that kind of dmg. whats your thoughness.

1) It CAN’T CRIT
2) 5k damage was a bit of an over-statement, but not much. Happy/Angry Unicorns a guy we fight quite often, has his 8 stack confusion hits that hit for 3400, and I’m pretty sure isn’t running the 2100 condition damage I’ve seen from our new mesmers.

Lastly. The next person that says “Confusion only kills bad players” needs to leave this thread. Its not the confusion that kills you, its the confusion that causes such heinous damage that prevents you from doing anything that kills you. Also, no one can say “I’ve never been hit by condition damage” so I guess we are all bad players.

I ment crit from the other player, he basically hit himself crit. but what i wanted to say wasAn believe me if I would say it only hits bad players, I’d be lying! It’s not true!My guild got destroyed when running into AVTR for the first time.They even made an epic video about it. and our guild has very skilled players in it. The thing is the surprise attack! We learned how to deal with glamour mesmers because we adjusted to the game. WE still would get destroyed if we weren’t ready for a glam attack.

Now, I know all of you who want to play the same way EVERY day. U see a mesmer and use the same combos over and over, because that’s how u ALWAYS kill mesmers. And now u run into a glamour mesmer and u do the same combo and u die instantly! So instead of adjusting you gameplay and being flexible, u want a nerf becaus eYOU want to play the same way all the time!

Yes, I destroy thieves if i’m ready, but there are times i get ganked by 1 and don’t expect it and yes I die to them aswell.

Same with a warrior that stunlocks me, but if i see the attack coming, he will run over my nullfield and then gets finished off with my bubble and hounds. If he gets too close I pull him away with temporal curtain.

Most of the time when I do my combo with bubble and nullfield and hounds and ports or veil, well guess what they don’t die to it, but my other abilities and the warriors and guardians in my guild will do the rest. Well and if 8 to 15 glamour mesmers get together and destroy a zerg, that is pretty fatal for u! NOT because confusion needs to be nerfed, NOT because of ANYTHING OP that should be nerfed, IT’S BECAUSE THIS GROUP IS VERY VERY COORDINATED and knows how to push. My own guild that doesn’t have any mesmers in it destroys zergs bigger than us easily. Befor AVTR and all the other guilds transfered over PRO would run around with 8 to 15 people and facing cd zergs of 20 to 25.

the thing is if multiple players of ANY class get together with the same attacks and builds and spam for example bleeding dmg or poison or anything else, it will be very very deadly for a zerg.not because an ability is to op its the group that is OP!

But i do agree that it was way op in spvp!with the amulets and stuff u get there confusion gets very op.

Seige.4862:

Toughness does not effect cond damage. If you don’t know that, then you need to remove yourself from this conversation.

Also I am a mesmer. Been playing one since beta.

toughness is important too when facing a mesmer as a lot of attacks will finish u off after being hit with confusion dmg. and maybe u wanna calm down instead of telling me off that way. It’s a game!

Kinglette.4906:

Rskippy.3620:

ibeo.6732:

we don’t need no stinking walls

We don’t need no Trebucation.

we don’t need no portal contol.
Anet, don’t take our rams away.

Yeah I mean who needs walls,doors or siege for 3 hours? Longview looks nice like that. too bad someone repaired 1 wall.

I am not really good at jp puzzle, but i finally made it up to the eb jp.well when i wanted to portal people up I hit that 1 rock instead of the water…

So if there is a golemrush in your BL, even if u dont have enough people the reinforcements would have to wait for 15 to 30 minutes? er. LOL

I transmuted mine to profane armor

I use superior rune of the undead and superior sigil of corruption as I am condition dmg build or better said glamour mesmer.

but yours id like my old build so try divinity rune

Seige.4862:

The fail in this thread is amazing. Quite disappointed in any mesmer who is defending confusion. Our class is amazing at so many other builds. Why defend something so blatantly unbalanced?
/sigh
The general population of MMO’s have continued to disappoint me since DAOC. Frankly I blame WoW, lack of education, and parents not beating their children.

oh unbalanced u say?
ok so then i want all the stuns from eles, warriors and guardians, that are op and can stun lock u if chained by more than 1 person

oh what about 17 stack of bleeding?
what about backstab, heart seeker, c&D?
What about thieves being able to stealth hit WALLs and doors
What about rangers that are able to send their pet on top of the wall even though its not a bird
What about being feared by necro all the time
what about warrior heals?
What about all the knock downs?

EVERY TRAIT USED BY MULTIPLE PLAYERS AT THE SAME TIME CAN BE FATAL for others!

BTW,the reason why I am defending it, is because it does take skill and knowlege to be a good confusion mesmer and glamour mesmers do not have all the clones and it needs skill to be one! EVERY class has a trait and build that is very efficient in wvw. My mesmer is strictly built for wvw I have way less health with my build and my armor is the most expensive and hardest to get for light armor.

So, u want a nerf? Then nerf ALL the traits I mentioned above!!!Oh, and please remove the golems they are so op, and flamerams and catas and trebs and PLEASE GIVE a trait that can be bought for 2 g caller cottonball, that wraps around those poor poor people that get confusion dmg and makes them immune for 2 hours!

JaNordy.6149:

Confusion is OP as kitten in WvW. There is a reason its nerfed in sPvP. There is only 1 class I don’t even fight against at fight clubs because I know outcome before it begins; Mesmers. Why? Confusion. If you get just 4-5 people that know what they are doing they can apply it nonstop to a entire team/zerg.

soo what class are you if I may ask?

Dragin.4520:

i would like to how FA just portal bombed in Hills on Dragonbrands BL cause you didn’t have a wall down or gate down but you came though the stairs with 30 people. and no way should a mesmer or anyclass be able to do that.

just to let you know, we had a mesmer that glitched in this weekend. he jumped down and put a portal, but noone from PRO or AVTR took the portal and we all reported him right away. But we have a ton of mesmers on our server and quite often we manage to hide 1 or 2 for a while after breaching in.

ok guys, stop it or I am sure anet will close the thread. could we stay away from this childish fight here that has nothing to do with this matchup? If u wanna fight, go have a duel or continue this on email

try out a glamour mesmer, ts very effective in wvw. I used to run an ele and din’t click with it, so i tried our ranger, didn’t click either and then i tried mesmer and fell in love. I’ve recently changed my build to glamour mesmer and get tons of badges and kills each time I play. But maybe u ’ll click with a different build too. check out all the builds and u ll see each one provides a different game play experience.

see examples here

shatter build
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yhj3mH9En6E

glamour build
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ur1D5GeIFa8

oh and if you are going for d/d ele
check out our commander

I agree with the people in here as it shouldn’t make a difference if you are a girl player or not, but society made a lot of people narrow minded. A lot of guys I’ve met looked at me like I was an alien when telling them that I probably would beat them in every single game they know.

I have been playing videogame since i was pretty much able to hold a controler (around 5 years of age) as my family loves videogames. (my mom makes people cry in tetris and is pretty much unbeatable)

There is the ordinary player, that plays videogames and some of them are onine and enjoys it

There are the gamers that play a lot of hours everyday and try out all the popular games.

And there is gamers like me, that know and had pretty much every console that ever came out (including ATARI, NES , SNES, GBOY, N64, playstation 1 ,2 and 3, sega, xbox xbox 360) and plays games in clans and uses TS, mumble and vent to talk kitten!

Now, I know a lot of guys out there think gamer girl=ugly, overweight girl with no social life. Erm, well I am a 5’8’, 105 pounds runway model and actress and love to shock exactly those guys. I play only nights and even if I dont get enough sleep i’ll play around 8 hours (10 pm till 6am). Believe it or not, but a lot of guys get intimidated by a girl that probably plays more than them.
It is sooooo much fun to see the look on a guys face when he hits on you and wants to take u out for dinner on a friday night and u cancel and tell him that friday is reset night for wvw in guildwars 2. XD

If you guys think I play a support, you are wrong. I am the 1 that will suicide rush into your siege and push in while supporting others with glamfields.

Oh and btw If you like 1st person shooter games and are a camper, you would be killed over and over and over by me as I love hunting those lazy campers. ;-)

BTW the unreal tournament competition 2003 was won by a girl in the european contest.

oh and btw mila kunis is a gamer too:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mI8WT3lVe80

saiyr.3071:

The same AVTR that tried to interrupt dueling last night?

there was like 2 of them at the fightclub yesterday, but none of us is afraid to duel and even if we lose we have fun!

xxxzavulonxxx.8413:

It was funny yesterday, I was on my thief and ran into dredge and got trapped between a fleeing AoN member or two (I think) and a big FA zerg. After I died I got invited to team and trolled by a FA member who basically called me a dragonbaddie. Which was wildly hilarious because I r Maguuma. And then trolled mean by saying “scoreboard”.

Why do people even bother with that stuff? If I been on Maguuma from Day1 of purchasing the game, would people think I am solely focused on winning?

Yeah i know how that feels, got attacked by 4 thieves, a necro and a ranger, downed 2 of them but 3 times backstab downed me XD, they killed me and stood there laughing .Sometimes people are imature, but in your case thats very very childish. Do you remember the guild tag?