Guild Wars 2

Lanimal.6541:

kanikani.2430:

@Elite Slasher – Your a commander, act like one. WTF is with that book of a post you wrote.

@Lanimal (for why TC is better) – Overall you are right. FA has become basically a wasteland of tactics and zerging. We act more like a pack of dogs then a army in general. That being said I have seen TC do some very stupid very horrible things (on a large scale), so your not that amazing yet. Winning so many weeks in a row certianly helps TC in moral/numbers and attracting talent.

From what I am seeing out of FA I have to say the server seems to be dieing. More and more people are no longer showing up, our tactics basically drop a level every week. 50% of the people seem to be interested in open world 5v5 or similar pvp matches and no objectives whatsoever, the other 50% are just looking to zerg something, anything. We almost never pick up our downed players. We have gotten even worse about defending/upgrading. Or when we do defend, we tend to defend the worst defensible keeps/towers. We take objectives for no strategic purpose whatsoever, and never stick around to hold them. We don’t seem to know what a treb is. We have basically no communication whatsoever and our major guilds are so insular they almost cant work with other people. We even have started auto attacking gates on large scale again. We need to go back to basics and start over again because we are not going in the right direction FA.

This is what I as a TC player observe defending against FA. I think people took my post the wrong way, I never stated that all those strategies are unique to TC alone, of course they are not. Its just that our execution and consistency of those said strategies happens outside of just ‘WvWvW guilds’, it happens with our organized pugs and militia groups. There are often many active group composed parties (Thieves + Mesmers for e.g.) running that consist of members of various guilds (PVE and WvWvW).

That is the main difference, we spend an often lot of time not being exclusionary and acting elite within the various top WvWvW guilds instead we try to consistently up the knowledge of our pugs, everything new we learn we dont keep it as a ‘guild secret’ we share it with other guilds and even pugs. In defense, a knowledgeable group of 10-15 that knows how to deal with nearly every single scenario can do a lot against a zerg.

Before logging off, I will grab someone I know or someone new and pass on the scenarios to him, “if they try to cata wall, this is how you mortar it, if they try to treb from Stargrove you can counter them with this mortar or this treb (keep it active), make sure to keep these three pieces of siege active at the very least etc…”, this person can be a guildie, a regular or a pug that I barely know, as long as hes willing to take up the task, I trust him to do it.

Do we make mistakes? All the time. I get very peeved about losing keeps with kittenty defense. The day when CD and FA took all our borderlands we could have stopped it. Someone started the fortification upgrade before Cannons and Mortars so we lost hills because every educated player knows that mortars > fortification for defense. Now we make sure that we tell everyone about our upgrading order, inform the pugs so that doesn’t happen again.

At the end of the day if a group of four can build a regular ram and take out reinforced gates at outer bay and hills without having any response from FA because they are ‘dealing’ with the breakout event just shows to me how slow in responding their defense is. We were spotted when the gate was 50% as well, few people came trickling in but none were smart enough to just go to the inner mortar and 1 hit our ram let alone build a cata or AC instead they just wanted to fight us 4v4 and die. This shows an uneducated militia/pug force, you guys need to take more responsibility in helping your pugs than acting elitist against them.

On the same topic, I have rarely rarely seen a party of 4 or 5 from FA being able to ninja a Tower or Keep out in the TCBL without us responding in time, the few times I have seen it, it was done by the guys from ULTD who are probably the only guild in FA I respect in tactics, execution, individual skill and overall strategy. Oh and TSI is pretty decent as well.

erm just wanna say…there is like noone online atm….we were like 10 people..max 15 in our bl….just saying..has nothing to do with our tactics or response,we are simply not enough atm.

Astry.9476:

@ CD redt guild. Stop exploiting into hills please.

your server has enough numbers to compete fair and doesn’t need to exploit, so redt guild comon, you make your whole server look bad like that!

BTW i reported another player from our side, when we saw him{mesmer} glitching through bay wall, i do not tolerate those exploits on our side at all.

…you are kidding right?Erm btw u know u can reach arrowcart by building ballistas and arrowcarts, oh and trebs do a good job at that too.the whole point of this game is , that it shouldn’t be easy to take a tower or keep.
auto attacking gate wont help u anyways!so if they spawn the gate like that,u back off the gate get out of range and build a cata to hit gate or wall, or both at the same time…PROBLEM SOLVED! There is so many ways…

oh ok because if one of our guild was doing that id make sure he will get punished or kicked.

Phule.1968:

@Mhim, I caught PRO guild teleporting a little earlier. They took hills and bay in a matter of minutes. I reported them and caught them on fraps at bay. However, i’ve been told that posting proof of hacks on this forum is a bannable offence so i’ll refrain from doing so. If you want to see the video, i’ll pm you the youtube link.
Special Operations Executive | SOE
Gunnar’s Hold
about 3 hours ago

Just copied that from GH/Whiteside/Dzagonur thread

PS. Fab was the one writing the post.

Erm which PRO guild are u talking about?Hopefully not ours, as we are all against hacking and exploiting.if it happenes quickly with our guild, you either had A a mesmer inside od B not checked all your walls as we are sneacky like that.but hey,if it is PRO you are accusing from aspenwood server, i wanna see that video!And checking our TS, there is only 7 people on atm and our guild usually isn’t on till in 3 hours from now.

sooo u guys made a guild called FA{good luck in Tier 4 .lol well its funny that u put it up right before we wipe u.:-)

erm i gotta say i like the breakout event eventhough it is crazy as ther was a giant zerg taking advantage of it and we are already having a hard time to keep anything. so now ther is this extreemly op champion tat hits u for like 7000 -10000 or even higher and the zer and being attacked from both servers at the same time in your own borderland. once they get those towers we can be trebbed constantly and that BREAKOUT event spawn instantly again and again and again and the giant zerg even pushed off keeps getting the towers and after those towers gon bye bye borderland and hello unbalanced 2vs1 the leading server should not be getting the breakout event and same with zergs that can joint the event.the event should instantly stop if there is more than intended.
zergs are exploiting it and now we are losing everything after we finally managed to get at least a few things back after being steamrolled by both servers. this needs to be adjusted immediatly as we already have problems with numbers and will not be able to keep anything. breakout should never appear for the leading servers only for the losing once and only if outnumbered!

ugh Dawn i soooo expensive right now, there is no way i will be able to get 300-400g together and who knows by the time i got gold even close to that it might be around 900g there must be another way than just luck at the forge.

well, in case im getting dusk and not dawn ill sell it for a lot less than what it is at the tradepost.Those prizes are ridiculous.

firestorm.1824:

Someone stealing our golem and trying to run it out and give away our attack. Spies get a life and stop trying to cheat

ugh we had the same problem with one guy but we managed to stop him after like 15 people reported him and we also had people sabotaging our siege so we couldnt build any by hiding useless siege in random places last week.

i got this bug for 4 or 5 days now and it happens 2 to 3 times and mostly when a lot of players are at one spot and also in dungeons. It is annoying, especially when in wvsw in the middle of a fight in eb and then u have to log out as it is unbearable, and have to queue again. Please fix this Anet, it’s hurting my ears.

Kerithlan.1659:

TruNoobie.4983:

I write this as a disgruntled member of Fort Aspenwood and the guild [PRO]:

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TC player here. I’ve bumped into [PRO] quite a bit over the past few weeks and honestly I feel like you guys are a mixed bag. Half of you are really cool to face off against and are willing to let passives be passives, while some of you guys are relatively tunnel-visioned when it comes to getting kills.

When I come up against you guys, I have one of three experiences. Either I come up against your better, more experienced players and I rightfully get my kitten thrashed; or I come up with your less experienced players and I win soundly; or I come up against someone (or a group) in between and have a great back-and-forth skirmish.

I wrote about this a few days ago. I bumped into 2-3 of you guys while trying to get a vista in your borderland, and I made it a point to /bow and /wave while shrugging off their attacks. After a minute or two of me not going down and not hitting them, someone noticed what was going on and two of you guys disengaged and let me be. The third guy was under level 80 and continued to whale on me for negligible damage — I was only annoyed because he was crippling me and causing me to fall.

I think this is a good thumbnail example of your guild. I was working hard to keep myself up against your level 80 players (and at one point almost downed), but they were polite enough and experienced enough to realize what I was going after. However, your less experienced player would have gotten himself obliterated had I been making a point not to fight back.

I’m not trying to be condescending (because apparently giving constructive feedback and encouragement is such) with this post, but rather trying to share my experience from the other side. If you are serious about getting your guilds to work better in tandem, then take a look at your recruits (or players on troll-alts) first. I have no idea what your guild is like outside of playing against you in WvW, but if you’re not doing it right now a good starting point would be some sort of buddy system or training system where a new player would learn from or apprentice with your better players and commanders.

I really and sincerely want you guys to do well against us, and only part of that can be attributed to your server being a familiar and comforting enemy at this point. I’m only a mediocre player from a small guild — I shouldn’t be able to massacre or potentially massacre players from a guild like [PRO]. It should be the other way around, and I am more than ready to admit to that.

The one non-80 vista example is just the most recent one, not the only one. There has been more than one occasion where I’ve been able to pull [PRO] players away from zergs or away from sieges/strategic locations just by making a big splash and then running away. It’s really funny from my end when that happens and when I kite 2-3 people across the zone, but from a “we want every player and every server to get better” perspective, you need to stamp that out.

ty for your feedback.
yeah, we’ve got a lot new players that still need some training and i agree with u. i don’t chase…if i was low level and wanted to get kills, id place myself on a superior arrowcart, wait for the golemrush and collect the badges after…
PRO doesn’t have a zergmentality, and also most of the players are pretty tough to kill in a duel…(hope u never run into our D/D elementalist commander…) We are still a growing guild and will continue to improve.
and yes we appreciate your feedback

Honestly, i am proud to be on FA and having fun fighting every night with both of the servers. I used to get frustrated with TC for a while, but this week has been great fun and TC has also shown a great sense of humor.
I’ve had a great duel with a warriorfrom CD today (me, mesmer and you, fighting at the coast of bluelake this morning, we were both down in the end and i won by one hit) and gotta say u guys have some very skilled players too.
I will definitely not approve of any alliance as it is against everything we were complaining about last week and also against my pride. I’ll keep attacking both CD and TC the same way..and by the way namo u will hear what i gotta say about your comment here in the forum about forming an alliance,in TS tonight…as bludge tells u every single time….DEMOTED! xD

Kerithlan.1659:

OneBloke.7264:

Today we’ve taken SMC four times and I’ve personally stayed all four times with dozens of other to sweep it thoroughly. I killed quite a few mesmers but then all four times there was suddenly a TC zerg inside the lord room and a few seconds later SMC was lost.
I also heard multiple reports of mesmers going through walls or under the ground but I was always looking for mesmers on the upper parts of the castle so I never saw anything personally.

I’m not gonna say that TC is full of hackers or exploiters, but considering the size of the zerg which kept suddenly appearing in SMC out of thin air taking advantage of this and considering that they did it four times while I was playing….I’ll just say that TC’s gameplay leaves a lot to be desired.
If this is how they’re planning to win this week’s match then it’s really sad because I know that there are a lot of good players and good commanders in TC who are capable of fighting for the first place without resorting to these “tactics”.

And in case someone from Anet reads this I’d like to request that they have a look at what’s happened today and find a fix for it

You guys didn’t repair your walls for like four hours. You don’t need to exploit to knock down walls that are at 10% with no one watching them for upwards of 45 minutes or to break into a tower/keep/castle that has no supplies stored up.

You had like six holes. It wasn’t exploits, it was just a less-than-stellar maintenance job on the castle. It isn’t hard to hide people inside of something as big as Stonemist when there’s doors as wide as highways.

erm but after u take the castle the walls come back up…how can u getem down this quick?

rhyein.6172:

selan.8354:

ty tc (PINK)for the awesome brawling drinking and dueling yesterday.i had an awesome time!

We had a lot of fun too. Except that one part where you guys tried to kill the dolyak herd. What did dolyaks ever do to you?

yeah sorry about that my friend wanted to shoot a cow and hit one of u and then the pugs ran in and everyone started killing the dolyaks.btw the duels were fun too.

ty tc (PINK)for the awesome brawling drinking and dueling yesterday.i had an awesome time!

Stonesolid.2706:

EgonVenkman.1907:

Sir William PD.9615:

So my post calling it a lame tactic was removed for being an infraction…double you tea eff.

In all my years of gaming, I have NEVER seen a more moderated forum. It’s worse than IGN back in the late 90’s.

I’ll patiently await my infraction notice.

Agreed. Anet is overzealous and random in their moderation efforts.

More likely, you hit a sore spot with a particular moderator. The mod uses that tactic, so you get modded for making them mad.

They don’t seem to use a consistent set of rules, with some fairly personal attacks/offensive language allowed, and the simple mention of a sore spot (ascended gear anyone) gets moderated to oblivion.

I’m convinced there’s some sort of lottery system handing out infractions. lol

And I agree with Daedalus. Can’t wait for the next matchup.

aww darn and normally im good at gambling but my post about the cheating has been removed too.

Niim.9260:

I watched a person on my server run up and drop three arrow carts around where you would normally put a catapult behind the door. Burning resources from the tower, and making it impossible to set up a catapult. Enemy server attacked about 5 mins later.

actually thats not a bad idea i do that all the time as arrowcarts can hit the rams and people through the gate if a golum is there ill put a superior arrowcart.try it out and shoot directly at the gate.

Maniac.5163:

I would like to communicate with the leadership of PiNK / The Silent Council [TSC].
This was the fourth time we killed people outside our lord room, the keep has not been breached for 24 hours+
Please contact me via PM/ingame mail.

ty for taking that screenshot!

just saying tc!if u really want me to respect u stop using the exploit into hills!thats just low using an exploit into inner hills only because u couldnt take it earlier! and i know its not all your server but the 5 tc exploiting their way into hills right now are just bad players that can not accomplish anything the way its supposed to be!and ill report u everytime u come in!

and btw i really enjoyed the fight yesterday at QL with TC u guys were ver hard to fight off and i like fights that are fair but go on for a while! so please tell the ones in your server trying to cheat that this makes your server look very very bad!

so even tonight at garrison to prevent people to take supply people set up dumb siege to troll really? so in order to win u need to troll? seriously grow up and finish school little kids!

Smoke.8910:

selan.8354:

oh and by the way to all u guys saying u are focusing on fa bl because our defense is so bad and yb s defense so great..u said the same about cd didnt u?

http://www.guildwars2guru.com/topic/74752-yaks-bend-vs-crystal-desert-vs-tarnished-coast/page__st__30

:-)

So TC didn’t attack YB much before due to thier good defense and now, TC still doesn’t attack YB much due to thier good defense.

I don’t understand what you’re saying there.

oh just saying it’s interesting that all other servers have a bad defense and thats why they always get attacked by both at the same time. that’s what u guys are saying right? and i was just saying it’s interesting, that’s all. ;-)

oh and by the way to all u guys saying u are focusing on fa bl because our defense is so bad and yb s defense so great..u said the same about cd didnt u?

http://www.guildwars2guru.com/topic/74752-yaks-bend-vs-crystal-desert-vs-tarnished-coast/page__st__30

:-)

Yodaman.3274:

TC complains about our defense, but after fending them off in their home borderlands for 3-4 hours and upgrading a keep in the process, what happens at night you log in and go there and us FA have the outmanned buff. Defense is tough when outmanned 4 to 1 regardless of what server you are.

No no let me tell u the whole morning program at FA borderland…
1 tc starts capping some camps
2. 5 to 8 fa defenders run after them
3. yb takes redvale
4. yb starts trebbing redbriar.
5. tc sets up 2 trebs at their spawn
6. yb fails if fa gets there quickly
7. fa defenders try to keep redvale (yb invaders stay at invulnerable zone in and out like little babies to scared to die.
8. tc takes greenlake/yb sets up 2 trebs at their spawn
9. tc gets bigger group of 10 to 15 running supplly camps.
10.yb finally gets redbriar as we are not enough to stop tc and yb at same time.
11. tc starts attacking hills after sening 2 people to contest wp at garrison and set allarm swords up at de.
12 yb starts trebbing bay
13. tc takes hills heads to de
14 yb still trying at bay
15 possible first golem rush of either yb or tc as tcs zerg goes up to 30
16 (12 bags of loot to my feet on my superrior arrowcart at garrison water gate. or to my guildmembers feet at eastgate)
17 yb finally getting into inner bay
18 tc setting up 4 catapults at woodhaven
19 tc getting woodhaven
20 yb still at bay
21tc getting DE
22. yb gets bay.
23 tc attacking garrison from all sites
24 all possible gates down at garrison 6 people at inner defending
25 lots of badges
26 more baged
27 tc got garrison!
…

ok and now i wanna clarify why some people may think its 2vs 1.

1 DE under attack.
i run there see TOG.manage to get in..go to siege on top look down see TC…not really so tc and yb both hitting gate.seemed like a competition who get in first …and kinda fun to watch XD(tc won lol)

2 we are working on getting bay back from yb
8 people building treb at inner after finally braking though gate….tc appears behind us and kills treb plus us..doesn’t tae bay though

3 keep in eb gets attacked by tc
tc breaks through outer wall and works on inner.we run out of supply but have a ton of usless rams in keep….we decide to get more supply at pangloss wanna leave through back door…yb there attacking gate

4 yb building treb on spawn 5 people get ther to take it down 12 tc attacking us from behind just as we are about to take the treb down…trebs still up after that

…
…
lots of incidents like that made some people believe its a 2v1,but ill just say it was all a coincidence :-)

Sam.3645:

Everyone I know at TCBL got kicked off, but other BLs work fine, what gives?

oi when did that happen and which bl where u in?
looks like a hack attempt….could be wrong…

honestly i think we need anet moderators online in wvsw all the time as there are soo many exploits and stuff going on that should be monitored.
one on each server.

Katsumoto.9452:

Simple solution.
Remove siege cap.

Really what is the point of it? 200 siege units on EB. I’ve never seen a single server have 200 people to man 200 siege units. Yes you could put a lot of siege everywhere then, but at least this wouldn’t happen and you’d then have a legit method of blocking off sides of the map.

u know why they have the cap right?
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KztvINdeJuo

there is that abuse too

a glitch causes eles to glitch their dragontooth through the wall and gates and can siege behind.
if unerfed the mesmers nerf the eles like that too.
and btw dawns erie is attackable from the back on the hills so please make that terrain unaproachable

Dual.8953:

Is the siege pool shared by all teams or is this spies coming in and building a lot of inert siege weapons to cripple the other certain teams?

no its per team i think its in eb 200 per team and the regular bl 100 or so so yeah the spies come in to cripple us. we also have random people yelling something 15 + tc inc at spirit u dont see sword but people head up there …no enemy there but all of the sudden garrison under attack and stuff like that. i don’t trust anyone in chat anymore.

i don’t think limiting the siege to each person is a good thing as there are commanders that put down the siege when needed. i think we sould simply be able to take unwanted siege down that could fix the issue.

kanikani.2430:

For the people that say the name of the server doesn’t matter, if your having balance populations it should be great matches. If its red its dead.

The problem with that is you are playing against the same people for long periods of time. Which more likely then not means the same tactics at the same times of day by the same numbers. If I can log into WvW and basically write a script for how my night will proceed, this is a problem, and yes it is boring. We all like the changing up. Rotating colors randomly would be something, but the BL’s would be the same. Tier stagnation I think is a big problem for WvW future something Anet needs to look into. People get bored, people move on, I have been hearing a lot of it lately from people.

I think this is basically a symptom of major population issues on servers. A problem that should never been allowed to escalate as it has. Fix the population issues and you will have no shortage of balance matches as well as much more variety and even more competition, which is stuff I think we all want.

hahaha yeah i can predict too,
so about now there will be the first golemrush to the garrison from yb while tc is builing 2 trebs at theri spawnpoint to get greenlake,then yaks get destroyed at the wategate by superior arrowcart(thanks for the badges btw), then the get redbriar, then they start trebbing bay while tc is attacking hills(if they don’t own it yet) then tc is doing the rest dawn.s erie then woodhaven then garrison then they leave and we recap everything again appart from hills and wait till the evening. did i miss anything?
oh forgot the golemsush by tc to south east garrison gate. and when all walls and gates are down 5 to 8 people hold them back at inner for another 20 min to one hour

Kerithlan.1659:

Wintermelon Tea.6398:

I think TC’s been hit with this as well. Couldn’t build a single thing earlier in EB, despite some of our siege having been destroyed by invaders over the course of combat.

Maybe until this is fixed, ANet can just lift the siege cap for now?

Part of that is likely because we’ve been overcompensating siege at our camps. For some reason someone built 7 arrow carts, a catapult and 3 ballistas at Rogue’s Quarry for our whopping three-man team to make use of (what?).

We don’t need that much guys, the majority of it just gets destroyed anyway.

actually that’s part of the exploit too. someone built around the supply depot at inner garrison 5 balistas and 3 arrowcarts and i wasnt able to place any siege near the gat or hallway to the gate.that is sabotage for sure.

and eb….omg have u guys when you took our keep from us how much siege was in there? i couldn’t even count it and all of it only at inner and never at the watergate or any useful place…actually our commander was kinda hoping tc or yb would take that keep already and destroy that useless siege.

i wish we players could destroy our siege too or sort of unbuild it to get supply back or so.could be a solution…

Nut.4713:

Kerithlan.1659:

Arkard.3970:

Night score update below:

Just to comment about FA’s defenses vs YB’s defenses again

While that was happening, referring to the image of a pure green fabl you were speaking of, PRO + a few pugs had roughly 30 people at Cliffside in ybbl. They did really well holding it, to give them credit, but obviously was a hopeless defense since they had nothing else on the map. Meanwhile, they lose their entire border to what frankly wasn’t a particularly strong push from TC.

I don’t get FA sometimes to be honest. Seems like they don’t really want to compete sometimes and would rather just screw around. They’re the only server I’ve fought and would say that about. They have the numbers to put queues on all 4 maps on friday night, comical really compared to what YB can muster. yet massively struggle to beat YB who can at best put half that on the map.

I’ve always said I prefer to be the out numbered server and win with team work and superior player skill. We’re still doing really well if you ask me and I’m immensely proud to be a member of yaks. There are times however when I get frustrated with being horribly out numbered, look at FA and shake my head. Give us their potential numbers and we would crush this tier.

we left FA because we werre tired of being the only people on the map defending FA. most of the other guilds arent online and care more about eb than fa bl, sometimes we wanna have fun too and go out and attack.

Tallis.5607:

Nut.4713:

Edit: Also have seen several PRO members alt-f4 tonight. I am disappoint.

Well, they learned that from the commanders… a FA commander just ALT-F4-ed when getting killed when he tried to take one of the camps, pfffffft.

most of us dont (apart from the greek who is obsessed with that XD…DEMOTED) we had a lot of dc though lately when fighting a bigger group. our commanders dcd like 5 times tonight, come on he even watched pink dancing over his dead body…

Sixpax.8360:

If by “portal bombing” you’re referring to exploiting the culling issue, then anyone who can cast swiftness on an infinite number of players can achieve the same result. Cast swiftness… bum-rush the enemy… culling achieved.

And pulling without line of site is no different than getting knocked back without line of site.

The wall/cliff glitch isn’t a Mesmer only problem.

and what about other classes perma stunned, getting pushed over cliffs by guardians and warriors, cetting snatched of a tower by thief, dancing daggers, eles earthquake and tornados, enginiers blow u up. thieves invisible….yeah it is ment to be hard and every class has its pros and cons well the thieves are still a little too op in wvsw but in my opinion the other classes are pretty good eventhough i would give the engineer a little boost. but mesmers are fine as they are.

Wasabi Kitty.8247:

Got (part) of the story of what happened. Seems like I missed a lot past night.

As of now only a small handful has transferred to TC.

The story of why people wanted to move is both sad and hilarious.

Apparently people were tired of carrying pugs which is completely understandable. Ask anyone from FA and they’ll tell you. We have some great WvW guilds, but the pubs are completely terrible. Bunch of people who stand around auto attacking gates without siege.

The other day I saw a group of 15 pubs auto attacking the gate to a tower. No siege. I watched to see how long they would go on. After 10 minutes I got bored and threw down a ram. It only got half built, because of 15 people only 2 were carrying supply.

From what I understand, last night we lost a ton of stuff in WvW because we had a huge group fighting the wurm. Which is completely idiotic, and something I would expect from FA pubs. We have good guilds, Pro, ULTD, PTX. But our pubs are complete idiots.

So yea, I don’t blame people for wanting to distance themselves from that.

Personally I won’t be going to TC. From what I understand, it’s the role play server, and that’s not my style.

i do get your points but i think it’s a little harsh to call them idiots. They simply don’t know. but as guild we should be helping them to understand how wvw works. we have a few members teaching newbies how to use siege and supply and what the camps and upgrades are for and i think every guild should do that. if they dont read the chat.whisper them and ask them if they wanted some tips.
i had someone calling me an idiot as she/he thought i was hitting the wrong wall that was invulnerable i said i was hitting back wall and doing 9k per hit. he went to check and was surprised. he didnt know. instead of getting frustrated with them TEACH them.

dirtyoldgoat.5496:

Ok i get what Selan is saying. But his tag says PRO and that he is in FA.

We have pro running around in TC as well. Are they also spies that should cause concern? Serious question not a troll? Is this a different PRO?

not our PRO
we are protectorate of aspenwood non of our guild is in another server

oh and to come back to the topic ty tc and yb for the fun fights tonight..oh and yb btw that golemrush u tried 1.5 hours ago at garrison watergate…i saw u in the water, went on my superior arrowcart and walked away with 20 badges. :-)

oh and im female btw….

Arcadio.6875:

I think it’s more accurate to say we are transferring away from FA than transferring to another server. TC was picked because it has what FA lacks. killer touched on some key points, but I think Derv can explain it best if he wants to.

oh sry for what i’m about to say, but fa’s LACKS?
well lets see..there is DERV who zergs around the entire map while ignoring the defense part. barely ANYONE or your guild ever stayed in FA to upgrade and protect the only one that helped us was Assassin{who i think is very cooperative with other guilds} and crew and he stayed for hours defending camps. i’ve only seen that part of your guild in our bl when it was almost too late to safe anything.
guess who went down with garisson every single time when outmanned? PRO, PTX and only a handful others. 6 to 8 people defending garrison at inner keep for almost 40 minutes against a zerg of 30 …where were u? oh i forgot to mention where are u when we are building siege at inner smc inner garrison watergate towers etc?

going to tc im sure GODS must be
1 some kind of revenge as thing must have gotten bad within your guild.
2 trying to win which tc already adressed
3 trying to go the easy way because u dont really wanna help or work when things are not so easy.

We will be seeing u on the battle field then!
and don’t u dare to pull something like using your position to spy on either tc or us. So TC be careful what u type in team or world chat and same for FA.

Sunshine.3452:

So I’ve seen GODS members on our server(TC) if this is just to troll us.. cool.. but if you guys seriously transfer to our server.. should I tell you now.. that you should rather stay on your server, cause #1 we do not need you, #2 we do not need people who transfer to win, #3 Stop creating queues on our server, #4 WTF? #5 what does the rest of FA think about this, #6 there is atleast one other guild I’d rather see transfer than this massive player guild? #7 is this just the action of a few misguided commanders who want to mess with our server?

this is just my personal oppinion, and in no way I am to stand for my guild as a whole

agreed and im WTF as well….and what we think about it….i really don’t know…and we def did not send them to spy or sabotage.

hmm oh well if we get matched up again..and get bored might aswell all meet at smc for a day and have a dance party plus campfire , cakes foodfight and brawling….oh and have a silent minute for the 41 golems that died to yaks oil.

in our guild we have a person that teaches everyone who wants to know how to use siege and we all try to help the newcomers out, but some of them just follow zergs around or the wrong commanders.people just need to be patient and actually try to slow down to explain. so whoever is in our server and needs help address someone from our guild…btw ishionna is nr.1 siege teacher!look for her!

omg!wow 41 vs oil!hahahaha!omg awesome, darn so mad i missed that event just seeing them marching towards gate would have made my day.41…impressive!

yeah same here it’s been lagging and alot of Dc happing since updates,

Tallis.5607:

So, it looks like we will be fighting the same two teams AGAIN after this week. Pfffffft. There should be a better matching mechanism, so that the servers don’t have to compete the same ones over and over and over again: I am tired of FAs dancing on corpses and camping JPs

i know what u mean im tired too but if i see people dancing on corpses i tell them to stop that as i think its really unnecessary and rude especially if a zerg ran over a few guys. not really proud that people from my server do that.had a lot of tc people doing the same though.

Tandy.4781:

selan.8354:

yeah i like having fun but being zerged by 40 and hunted down till the last keep is gone oh well congrats tc eventually our server will be completely outmanned as everyone quits and hopes for a new match up.i like wvsw but like this its unplayable.sry and i know ill get a bunch of oh stop whining comments well whatever.

Well I have to somewhat agree, its not fun when one server is so overwhelmingly present in wvsw against barely anyone else. It really does make people who are only half interested in it go “well screw this!” when you get just hammered over and over and over. Having a zerg of over 40 or so it seemed against 6 people is a bit dis-heartening at any time though.

Not really anything you can do about it though, even if in the “spirit” of it its very unsportsmanlike in the end, a win is a win is a win….even if it was the same as a 200 pd 6 foot tall man beating up on a 3 yr old.

yeah i know what u mean.im just worried that the not so regular players will stay away as i’ve seen it before. im sure al lot of guilds will still play like ours but i’ve seen a big change in numbers tonight and yes we held off quite well but a lot off people logged out after being demoralized.
and btw when we had a very weak server against us we wouldnt even touch it till the end and and believe me wvsw was boring when we owned the entire map. we actually started brawilg with the enemy and sitting together at campfires. no we dont troll them we wanna have fun thats all.

yeah i like having fun but being zerged by 40 and hunted down till the last keep is gone oh well congrats tc eventually our server will be completely outmanned as everyone quits and hopes for a new match up.i like wvsw but like this its unplayable.sry and i know ill get a bunch of oh stop whining comments well whatever.

yes same problem. i don’t like to use my credit card online period. i always buy cards to buy stuff online so it would be great if i’d get some more info about the problem.

yeah true the only one i like is the profane light armor its the only one i use.

no and no and no again.plz no mounts this is not wow and eventhough my mesmer is a slow walker …id rather walk…imagine a char on a mount….yeah that just doesnt work. so noooooooooooo!

I agree it’s pretty stupid but if it bothers you that much you might want to let the people in your guild know this because they are pretty notorious for the corpse dancing/sitting crap as well.
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hmm must be some noobs then because our main part of the guild doesn’t do that and i know because the main ones are all in ts with me and we even talk about that kind of trolling and think its dumb. if we are fooling around then we brawl with the enemy or have a camp fire or so but we have fun with the enemy and don’t troll them. our commander is pretty strict about trolling. What he would say about this…DEMOTED lol!

naphack.9346:

selan.8354:

yes mesmers are strong in pvp but in wvsw i think the only class that got me sooo frustrated is the thieves.

there was a group of 8 thieves running around messing and trolling us at our camps. we were 5. we walk in the camp no one there we cap the camp and then boom! all of the sudden they attack us out of nowhere.

as a mesmer im at least able to survive for a while. but they are able to revive each other all the time. we cant even prevent them from reviving, they are nearly dead then go into stealth come out fully revived, can attack us even in stealth, can now since the new update pull me off a kitten tower!, stay almost perma invisible and their attacks are way to strong,

My mesmer gets some ok damage but those thieves get me down form 20k health to 1 k in like 2 attacks. and then they even laugh at u after the slaughtered u.

Anet, i am sorry but u guys have to nerf thieves for wvsw plz. i gave up after 2 hours of humiliation and was happy to go to another map where i could fight real players that dont have to press 2 buttons to kill u, players that are actually really good and fun to fight.

I think, It wasn’t half bad then if you cry about them reviving eachother.
Just imagining right now if it had been 8 d/d elementalists… You wouldn’t even be able to cry about them reviving eachother or “being able to survive a bit more than the rest”. All 5 of you’d die simultaneously within 3-6 seconds, depending on position.
A hint: a team of 8 organized players should kill a team of 5 players regardless.

yeah agree d/d eles are very very strong and can destroy u quickly. i’m not crying im just annoyed how thieves get sooo powerful due to their incredible stealth duration. being attacked out of the blue because not seeing the enemy at all is really frustrating thats all. btw all of us 5 are extremely well players and would have no problems against 8 others normally but 8 thieves…pretty much invisible all the time…different story.