Guild Wars 2

Mike.7320:

Well, I attempted to lure less than 3 FA away from their zerg, seems they only care to fight in large numbers (as you can see from EasE guild member running away from a 1v1 )vs 1 person. Havent seen any decent roaming players from FA, infact none that have even been a challenge. FA is mainly “Zerg here” “Now zerg there!” “Oh theres one person from an enemy server all 20+ of us must chase him till hes dead”

Mike, if u wanna duel the FA players, because u think FA is mainly a zerg, find PRO or AVTR at NA night time and duel any of us! :-) see u out there!

Oozo.7856:

Saturn.6591:

Edit: I play WvW and I also sometimes jump into PvP. I don’t remember that I ever died while having confusion on me.

So, you’ve never been hit with a stack of confusion at low health where even trying to heal yourself kills you? You don’t PvP much I take it. :P

You are at 2K health, just don’t do anything for 5 seconds!

trying to heal is not killing u that is a lie! Dodging will hurt u if your dodge has a trait attached to it. the worst dmg u will get is when u zerg. I died to AVTR like 20 times before and never thought this needed to be nerfed. My confusion/shatterbuild would get me into trouble when facing them.

Glamour mesmers are very effective vs zergs, but in 1v1 it is way harder for me than with my previous builds due to long cooldowns.
So, the OP obviously was facing a few of us glamour mesmers. Little hint, mindless zergs that just run in and destroy, will get destroyed by a glamour group instantly. If a group has good push tactics, they’ll still get dmg, but the same dmg that any other class would deal too.

Another thing though which i think u don’t understand. It is not just 1 glamour filed at the time. Each glam mesmer puts down 2 fields(in my case 3+ the 2 portals that are glamourfields) plus hounds of baltazar(cond dmg too)), now imagine 5 to 10 glam mesmers doing that to a big, mindless zerg…..BOOOM!

Ninein.4782:

Elano.2014:

Ninein.4782:

FA and DB are afraid of Maguuma. That’s why they like to double team. Whenever I see us getting pressured by FA, there’s good old DB lapdog going after us as well. No night presence plus double teaming makes this a skewed fight.

Well, people prey on the weak.

Maybe ppl are afraid of 1v1 Maguuma and instead resort to 2v1.

I know it feels like double teaming, but we are not believe me. before the matchup almost all the major guilds had a meeting on who is doing what in which bl. And MAG bl is one of the places where we are at too. We were actually fighting DB the entire time and DB was the ones that took the keeps we held in mag, not mag themselves. So I can assure u that we are not double teaming.

Bones.5762:

IRSyKo.5843:

Bones,

Why are you so mad about a video game? Who cares if we win/don’t win. Or people do irritating things. It’s all about having fun.

Personally I don’t seek e-glory by winning T2, or going to T1. It’s not important to me. I just want to log in and WvW with my guild and have a good time. We wipe, we wipe people, We take keeps, we lose them. But almost always everybodys in TS in a good mood having a good time.

it’s never been about winning, its been about outplaying the other server, i could care less if we lose by 200k because of night time crews that wreck us, but if we can’t efficiently play good during our time, it makes it quite depressing to know the only reason we win is because the people who are night crew pull 100% of our weight. I have been on 5 different servers (4 of which weren’t winning servers) (FA being the exception) and i can honestly say that those 4 other servers played better. I’m not saying FA doesn’t have skills so don’t imply that, BT has an amazing roamin group and i’ve seen them firsthanded, but that’s not what my argument is about. Why do people always imply that critique is based on want to win. I have never wanted to win, it’s always about having fun.

Honestly’ i think you are playing at a different time slot than me then(I’m NA based, but play only nights). FA has be trashed for weeks in T3 against TC, CD and YB and IOJ. We never seemed to have enough people on and gues what? We’ ve been fighting hard and defending what we have. IOJ guilds joined us, because they were impressed with our defense in our BL. They approached our guild that is known for sticking in our bl to defend and yes we still managed to get things done and catch up points over night!

Now last weeks matchup. You know it is kinda hard when u fight 2 huge zerges in our BL at the same time! Yes, it was always both attacking at the same time and we also dealt with major queue bugs where we were stuck for hours and when we finally got on we were majorly outnumbered.

U wanna talk bad about FA, go to SOS, SOR, TC or BG so it makes u who is soooooo much better than EVERYONE else in this game, feel better about yourself.

Believe me i know that our daytime crew and even nightcrew still needs training and that is what our big guilds are trying to change. we invite people to our TS all the time to train them.

SoggyFrog.4170:

You misunderstand selan, confusion is applied by exiting a glamour field but it should not damage you if you’re just using a dodge. I think it’s a fair point that having a traited dodges should not punish you when you are facing someone who uses confusion as a damage source.

That’s not an issue with confusion, it’s a problem with the way the mechanics currently operate. It needs to be addressed directly, not by nerfing a valid condition.

nope as in TRAITS stated: Confusion enchantments: Glamour skills cause confusion to foes who enter or exit their area.

which means if u are to close to it u get the confusio, when u dodge out of it u touch it, when u run into it and out of it and run into another one…hellooo 25 stacks

and honestly this thread was started by someone that must have had a little run in with AVTR guild and got destroyed ;-). We glamour mesmers are very, very efficient if zergs ar autoattacking a gate or trying to zerg their way through a small group. as a good player u should never spam 1 1 1 because if u got confusion on u, u ll burn yourself quickly

Acelerion.6820:

Oozo.7856:

Some of the things you take confusion damage from are absolutely kitten

This is the real problem in my eyes.

erm the doge thing is because of a trait that adds confusion to ANYTHING that enters or exits a glamour field and a good glamour mesmer will actually pull u through the glamour fields with temporal curtain, so u will end up with 25 stacks. But all this has to do with skill, rather than an op condition. I think that every class has certain abilities, that seem op in the eye of someone that gets destroyed by it. Thieves destroy people with their stealth C&D and backstab, ele’s tornado skills,mistforms and aoes, warriors 100blades and so on… I’m sure some of these things have to be a little adjusted or already have been. Sure, it is annoying to get 25 stacks of confusion, but our recharging of those abilities takes quite long and it does require a lot of skill to be a good confusion or glamour mesmer.

oh let me guess, a thief is mad that he cant spam 1 1 1 1 1. lol
Other than that, oh well we are only dangerous if we all group up! XD
Mesmers dont really have a lot of AOE, so confusion is a pretty though build to pull off.

yup would love to blacklist the guy that took EVERYTHING valuable out of our guildbank and all the gold and left guild after being with us for a while!

Hepan.2709:

selan.8354:

Hepan.2709:

Yes some mesmer traits make it pretty impossible to fight on some classes. Its either let clones/phants alive and take damage or kill them and get damage via conditions. Who came up with that?

The best thing when fighting a mesmer is to just focus on the player if you have any kind of burst damage. Most are pretty distinguishable from their clones by signets, food buffs, world completion stars, upleveled arrow, boons, and last but not least movement and skills they cast.

aaaand there are glamour mesmers like me that put up a bubble around the thief and once they try to backstab, they pretty much backstab themselves. u dont need to worrie about the clones but the bubbles on condition dmg. the glamour build is very very deadly for zergs. I fought 2 thieves and 1 lowbie warrior at once today and they all died to cofusion dmg. there is ways to counter thieves, but if they permastealth its pretty hard as u dont know if u are hitting them or not.

idk what bubble you talking about since i never played mesmer but the moment i see some pink stuff on the ground i high tail it out of there until its over.

i also retreat if i get confusion and just let it wear off wait for some CDs and try again.

what i meant about clones is the constat fire/bleed and whatnot from staff clones. Those are just annoying as hell, as having them out all i see are pink balls flying around and me on fire

@kormona (and all other qqers about stealth): stealth is not the problem, culling is. learn the difference already. Cry to anet to fix culling and then we’ll see how unbalanced thief is.

@tagnut: steal is a class mech not utility combined with ini system. on its own it does no damage only traited does damage. Lets then reduce the damage to warr adrenaline skills, no boons for eles on atun swap, no activate on guard virtues, etc. etc.

C&D if not traited for or dodged/misses burns half of our ini or efectively half our CDs if you will, its good. Again with the stealthing part, culling is the issue

Backstab: requires positioning and if you dont expect a stealhed player to come from behind, you have l2p issues.

HS yes it provides alot of good stuff, but it just shows where other classes are lacking. Necro, engi, and some other need a serius buff when it comes to gap closing. I would much rather see them buffed then just blindly swinging the nerf hammer around and hoping kitten get balanced.

i meant this
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yTbyG5rHK9k

Yay I got combat healer XD

I really would love to get a response from Anet, just to know that we have been heard.I am sure it would calm people down. I know how hard programming is and I am sure that people understand if Anet made a mistake ,but admitted that they are at least looking into it.

Actually I’m kinda happy it reminds me to change the password. I had a couple of weird log ins from random destinations. Thank god I didn’t lose my gear. Lost some gold though, but also got some back from a random person XD. But that reminded me that I had to change my password and I’d rather change my password more often than losing all my gear or even my character!

Hackuuna.4085:

In general, I find people are terrible at estimating numbers in WvW. I’ve had people say we only have about 5 defending a keep when in reality we have 15. The reason is because of the new culling system where when there are a lot of enemies nearby, you won’t see your friendly dots on the map as it starts to cull them especially if they are spread out.

Another point that nobody seems to mention when talking about the “queue bug” is that the outmanned buff is unreliable. I’ve had it happen often where one person in our party has outmanned buff but everyone else doesn’t. The whole TC incident is becoming some sort of story being passed on without any observable proof and people are just accepting it because of frustration with queue times (is there a video of this incident?).

I maintain that what the developer is saying is true and that the OP has made some reasonable speculations without any observable proof to counter it. If someone has a video of being outmanned while also demonstrating that their area has a queue, by all means post it.

Actually the outmanned buff will go on and off, if you are very close to be outmanned. That being said, TC is not the only one experiencing the strange queues and only finding very little people on that map. FA has seen this too and yes we had transfers 3 weeks ago, but no major ones since then and the queuing has only been a biiig issue this week. I hear people blaming in on the culling, but if u look at your mini map u will see the green dots and i can pretty much estimate how many i see there in a second. Believe me our guild is great at estimating numbers and if we say it is 30 then the numbers are between 25 to 35. Yes, and we sometimes laugh at people in map chat when they say OMG there is like 50 here, our guild will check and find normally around 25 to 30 there. But this is different!

We had a Queue and we only owned 1 tower and 1 supply camp believe me there is not many places where players could hide! There were 7 at the camp, around 5 or 6 at spawn and around 12 to 15 at the tower. so thats around 30 players for an entire map with 2 servers attacking with both numbers higher than us.

I don’t think we need to proof that with a video. Don’t u see that EVERYONE is complaining? EU Servers and US servers both have the same issue.

erm the patch has been pretty good for me so far as i finally get to see the thieves and the new rendering system has definitely been an improvement for me. As for the queues, last week we had queues after all the transfers, but i would run into around 40 or 50 players on each map, now i experience a massive queue and dont see more than 20 online all trying to defend or capture a single keep or tower. So, ther is an issue there

Simonoly.4352:

How on earth did you account for every person on each map? How do you know there weren’t some people doing jump puzzles or running around more secluded areas of a map before you started counting?

I would like to know how you came up with that number please. Otherwise this is just scaremongering.

If you only own 1 supply camp and 1 tower and there is a zerg of 40 + on one side and a zerg of 25 on the other side of that map attacking u at the same time im sure u will most likely see 95 percent of the players either in A,citadel, B, the camp or C that last tower. No PVE player would even dare to leave the citadel knowing that there is massive forces everywhere. and yes, there are a few crafters there.

Catisa.6507:

Offski.4897:

But the worst issue is the lack of any responce from Anet. At least let us know they are aware of these problems and trying to fix them.

Overall Anet’s communication with the wvw community is appalling. No doubt this thread will last all of 2 minutes before it is deleted. Wish they put as much effort into replying as they did in deleting posts etc.

This thread SHOULD be deleted, Anet has commented on the issue and there IS an offical thread on it.
Took me .00002 sec to find it too https://forum-en.gw2archive.eu/forum/pvp/wuvwuv/Queues-for-WvW-The-Official-Thread/first

erm sorry, but this thread has been adressed months ago. Our problem is right now at this very moment! WE are being outnumbered by a lot while having people stuck in Queues for hours. as you seem to be a VERY observing person, you should have noticed that there weren’t any complains about queues before the last update. So before making a comment like that u might wanna research first.

Ruprect.7260:

selan.8354:

when i logged into our BL where we only owned 1 tower today, i found only like 20 people there and around 40+invaders from other servers id say 20 TC and around 25 BG. how are we suppose to counter 2 servers attacking while most of us were stuck in Q and only 20 defenders in and maybe a few standing at spawn? We didnt get any transfers from last week and Q’s were pretty fine and once we were in we would see way higher numbers. And I agree fights arent fair if the other server only gets half their people in while 2 servers attack with way higher numbers. I do enjoy this matchup, but would like to enjoy it with all our guildmembers.

I don’t know what BL you were on but based on what you just said I wonder if the queue is screwed up to be serverwide across all maps??? Last night we had about 30-35 total on our map at one point, FA had at least 50-60+. I wonder if it is set up now that you can only have 166 across all maps or something instead of the 500 per map it used to be it is now 500 across all maps. that is what it is starting to seem like to me. And you are not in the queue for the map, everybody is put in a big queue pool, you are queued for the map you want but are in a queue with every one from all maps. When there are more than 500 ppl queued you wait even though the map you queued for is no where near full.

I am not expalining this well and it is pure speculation, but it makes one think. hmmm

yeah that is weird, I was in FA BL and had a Queue!The only one I got in without Queue was in fact TC BL, and i did find a large number of players indeed. But we werent able to get into FA where we were needed the most. Now you are telling me you are experiencing the same issue in your BL. This must be a bug. I heard you gus were even outmanned and had a queue. o.0
We were outmanned in EB before then we all ported over which is like 10 to 15 people and 6 of us got a queue….the system is soo bugged and hope they are fixing this soon as I am really enjoying this matchup, but want it to be fair for all servers.

70 players?per server?I wish we had that. WE get stuck in queue the moment we got around 30 on the map per server. sometimes we are in queue with 25 people on and when we get in after 10 minutes to 1 hour, we find ourselves outmanned by the other servers that have 40 online.

Ruprect.7260:

ComeAndSee.1356:

Blix.8021:

maybe there are queues because the maps are full

Well, obviously.

What people are reporting is there’s lower capacity on the maps. On the weekend I sat in queue for 2 hours twice and got in on a map that had only 40 players MAX on it and we were being spawn camped by a force double us.

This^^^

Is what we are experiencing as well. It is getting tiresome getting on to a map for a guild push and being outmanned 2 or 3 to 1 and having a queue. It also sux when it is happening the opposite. No one wants an unfair advantage because of a bug. It really makes the scores this week meaningless.

T2 is extremely competetive thsi week and who knows if it just beacuse we are all about the same level or because of the bug. We are having some great fights when we get lucky and everyone seems to have about the same amount on each side, but when it is severly skewed one way or the other it is just a ROFLSTOMP for some servers.

I second this.We are having a blast fighting in T2, but the queues are killing us. more than half of our guild was stuck in queue for an hour last night and when we got in we were outnumbered and i could barely see enough defenders to make a decent push. I know you guys in TC are experiencing the same thing and it sucks as I really enjoy our matchup!

It’s not only TC, FA same thing! Our Q’s are ridiculus atm, then we finally get into our BL and I find 20 people at the only tower we owned and were outmanned by 2 servers attacking us. The Queues are bugged!

when i logged into our BL where we only owned 1 tower today, i found only like 20 people there and around 40+invaders from other servers id say 20 TC and around 25 BG. how are we suppose to counter 2 servers attacking while most of us were stuck in Q and only 20 defenders in and maybe a few standing at spawn? We didnt get any transfers from last week and Q’s were pretty fine and once we were in we would see way higher numbers. And I agree fights arent fair if the other server only gets half their people in while 2 servers attack with way higher numbers. I do enjoy this matchup, but would like to enjoy it with all our guildmembers.

Hepan.2709:

Yes some mesmer traits make it pretty impossible to fight on some classes. Its either let clones/phants alive and take damage or kill them and get damage via conditions. Who came up with that?

The best thing when fighting a mesmer is to just focus on the player if you have any kind of burst damage. Most are pretty distinguishable from their clones by signets, food buffs, world completion stars, upleveled arrow, boons, and last but not least movement and skills they cast.

aaaand there are glamour mesmers like me that put up a bubble around the thief and once they try to backstab, they pretty much backstab themselves. u dont need to worrie about the clones but the bubbles on condition dmg. the glamour build is very very deadly for zergs. I fought 2 thieves and 1 lowbie warrior at once today and they all died to cofusion dmg. there is ways to counter thieves, but if they permastealth its pretty hard as u dont know if u are hitting them or not.

yeah there is definitely something wrong with those queues!I logged into FA BL today after a 15 min queue and only found around 20 people there and maybe 10 standing at spawn points. We were facing large numbers 20 TC and 25+ BG. how can we have a Q if we had only enough to defend all bunkered at 1 tower we had at that moment. Before reset and update we had the same numbers but reasonable Q’s u would find 40 in each borderland and Fa was filled up with players. NNK from Db had normally 50 people in our BL TC and BG have large numbers but I have never seen that many since update so im sure their Q is bugged too.

looks like we are gonna meet PINK again. ;-)

hmmmm actually AVTR is a really small guild and can take out a zerg of 35-40 and our guild roams around with 8 to 10 people aswell and we get a lot done! We destroy zergs twice our seize!

Expample: AVTR

Example PRO:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9VLq1FDp9gI&list=PLqbVYxfA89UMv5OSa94FHbA2raTSkQIig&index=60

ghtchill.7613:

Chalky.8540:

ghtchill.7613:

Okay DB and Mags…here’s the deal. We really want to play you guys next week. We’ll even bring the beer. FREE BEER!

FA is playing far better than both of us atm, so they’d be the most fun no doubt. Unfortunately you’re gonna do a pretty impressive tier vault if the current predictions are anything to go by!

Did I mention the free beer? Mags and DB have worked hard, you need a break this week…maybe go play some (shock) PVE or level an alt, or watch TV. No need to keep your nose to the grindstone all the time. Plenty of time for that next week.

LOL pve! I went to pve e the other day to get the rest of my armorset i want and a guy was like.“hey, you are in PRO!What the kitten are u doing here? you should be in wvw!” XD

As for leveling alt characters: If you guys got killed by a bunch of naked people from our guild, that was all of us starting a lowbie character including our commander and it was a blast capping quaggans and camps…and be overrun by a zerg of lv80 enemies!

Commisar.8695:

I was there, as a maguuma. They had the tower, NNK managed to get a mesmer hiding in there when you took it back I guess and nobody looked, gj aspensweep.

lake never breached how can a mesmer hide in there?

wow sry db but u might wanna remind NNK 50 man zerg to use siege to get greenlake and not portals as this tower didnt breach before.i know they dont speak english but one of our guys saw it happening.u got 50 man, use siege! bye bye respect for db from me. u lost it all at this second!

well and this is also how we do things in FA

defending a wooden tower vs 3 omegas 2 alphas and an army of enemies

part 1
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SUzJBhIr9RU&list=PLqbVYxfA89UMv5OSa94FHbA2raTSkQIig&index=52

part 2
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WCCkfsR-9bM&list=PLqbVYxfA89UMv5OSa94FHbA2raTSkQIig&index=53

RyuDragnier.9476:

Ahh, thanks for the clarification. But as of right now, considering how badly you’re beating us and DB, I think you’re fine on people. But getting more for T2, that I have no problems with, as we all know you’re going up there probably.

well, there was those weeks where CD did that to us,because u had the numbers and we didn’t.WE were outmanned nonstop in EB and werent even able to touch your BL.Yes, we got transfers and just saying they are not huge guilds, but they are skilled and love strategies. But what kitten with the transfers was a big morale boost. Evenour guild has more people online as it is exciting.
Communication between guilds has gotten much better and i love working with them.
I understand that CD is not used to it anymore as after TC left u guys started to rule the whole tier. U even threatened us with trying to push us out of T3 which u didnt accomplish as FA is known for fighting hard. I wish we all could get along and it would be great to have less hate between the servers.

Khalahd.4163:

Epidemiology.8496:

It would seem CD is now resorting to exploiting for objectives. While it’s unfair to categorize an entire server by the actions of a few, a rather significant amount of CD players apparently complied with and engaged in exploiting to capture FA’S Hill keep today. Any defenses?

Umm. Have you actually looked at that spot? You can walk right there from outer. It doesn’t do anything, it’s not an exploit, and it’s useless. That was not even the mesmer that got us in. They were in inner. Not standing on a ledge running into a wall, trying to get away from your forces. Try to fact check first. And for your information, PRTL is a subguild CD uses to organize some of our mesmers for education and information. We were training, and joined to help the battle for Hills. That particular guildie did nothing except run in, and ran into a wall on a ledge. Congratulations on your hatred of us leading you to assume it’s a cheat, instead of noticing that it’s just a ledge. Well done. Here, I’ll even post a screenshot of me standing on that ledge, showing how to get to it. Consider this a lesson.

Regardless, that was an excellent take, good job LW and GoF. Don’t let the ignorant bad apples poisoning the thread take away from your achievement. Well fought FA, but please keep the libel to a minimum.

btw walking along a wall to get to inner is a terrain exploit as ANET did not intend to make it possible to get into inner that way. same thing like jumping from spawn into inner hills.

Deathdom.8250:

Rskippy.3620:

selan.8354:

And a party? I’m down for that name the time and place!

^
should be night before reset and we could invite some of our opponents aswell and have a couple of duels.

We had some epic duel events with PINK before and it was super fun

Sounds like a plan, we got the musicc (vandarra to play the same track for 5 hours) we just needs decide where.. we should totally have a garrison open night, no walls, no doors, just everyone inside having duels to downed state and guild banquets and stuff.

Should do it at SMC. That would be a sight to see if all of us participate and the 2 servers that don’t own SMC at the time agree not to take it.

wow that would be epic! Turning SMC into a little arena

Unfortunately.5940:

Drunk dueling, should be funny as kittens

hahah yeah remember that very well

And a party? I’m down for that name the time and place!

^
should be night before reset and we could invite some of our opponents aswell and have a couple of duels.

We had some epic duel events with PINK before and it was super fun

Haldunius.7864:

Altie.4571:

Maniac.5163:

I feel like [EsF] [KH] [LaZY] [NAGA] [VaL] [MDMW] just haven’t been out in the numbers they have been previously. These are all guilds that used to give us trouble out there! I don’t know why this is. Overall militia participation on CD has dropped though for sure, I think their morale is probably down a bit unfortunately.

I think overall as a server people are still vary of what happened last week.

Like it or not, to an opponent it seems as if two servers merged and instead of fighting the opponent you seem to have been tiered with, you get one with a lot more muscle suddenly dropped on you. It didn’t provide motivational material. But I’m proud of how we responded. We are fighting and keeping our BL for the most part after that weekend swamp on CD.

Whatever happens I can’t wait for 2 weeks after the transfer craze. Then we’ll have good matches once again.

After it’s all settled, I think we’ll be in that tier 3 or 4 window. We’ll see how good Kain and Maguuma really are.

Yeah, I think everyone is going to be watching T3 and T4 this weekend to see how they do against larger servers. Mag and Kain are currently the Miley Cyrus’ of GW2. I’m not sure if that’s a compliment or not.

Thanks for not saying justin bieber XD

Rskippy.3620:

selan.8354:

yup yup. I had a blast running around with AVTR, Ua and DPS last night…Golemrush was crazy! PRO always has fun when playing and since we got the transfers the morale of FA has gone up so much.We used to have people on our own server that tried to sabotage FA with siege cap and using all supplies up, because they wanted to go down a tier

Haha running in collaboration with PRO has been a pleasure since the move, and that golem rush was nuts.. we have had similar when we were on IoJ but it was mainly an individual who would do it for exploiting free transfers.

PS. I wonder if uA have gotten sunny hill yet?

ahahahaha.wow we took bay, cliffside and garrison the whole time they were working on sunnyhill. XD

Btw i think FA should have a party or something to celebrate the new arrivals, with tons of guildbanquets :-)

Rskippy.3620:

selan.8354:

Karykarywook.2481:

Toggles.1783:

Last week – CD wins for weeks then dominated FA and FA cried foul.

Please point out that we were calling foul/crying/whining about CD taking over FA to the point of saying CD was beating us while we’re down.

Actually there have been posts from cd where they were complimenting us on how determined we were and how little we cry about being last all the time. TC dominated FA way more and had an incredible high presence on all maps almost 24hours. There we cried. Ok, so now we got all these amazing guilds, that are a lot of fun to work with and I am really happy to see ho our community has grown and works hand in hand. Before we had all the guilds pretty much doing whatever they felt like and now we communicate with everyone.

So, for all those that are hoping for the guilds to all jump ship before paid transfers:
Sorry, we got beer, cookies and hot girls :-)

Well said, couldn’t have said it much better myself.. and on the guilds jumping ship? Not going to happen, I am 99.99% sure the IoJ community imports love where we have ended up, we love the community and most of all we love collaborating with the guilds of FA.

PS. The beer, cookies and hot chicks is an awesome bonus!

yup yup. I had a blast running around with AVTR, Ua and DPS last night…Golemrush was crazy! PRO always has fun when playing and since we got the transfers the morale of FA has gone up so much.We used to have people on our own server that tried to sabotage FA with siege cap and using all supplies up, because they wanted to go down a tier

TheFug.5278:

IRSyKo.5843:

Henrik.7560:

IRSyKo.5843:

Kincaidia.3192:

Did FA lose Stonemist? I had to leave for work

No, but after we saved it we decided to completely wipe CD out of the game.

CD currently sitting at +0 PPT

Why wipe us? why not attack dragonbrand? what have we done by sitting at +100 ppts or less 24/7?
</3 with FA

I’d guess A: Your forums warriors B: We don’t want you here anymoar

You realize that you are acting more disrespectful than any of our “forum warriors”, right?

Let’s all grow up.

erm, if you read a little further down, u will see that he was joking. Believe me i was about to say something too, as i don’t like trolling like that, but then i read the next few comments about that.

Karykarywook.2481:

Toggles.1783:

Last week – CD wins for weeks then dominated FA and FA cried foul.

Please point out that we were calling foul/crying/whining about CD taking over FA to the point of saying CD was beating us while we’re down.

Actually there have been posts from cd where they were complimenting us on how determined we were and how little we cry about being last all the time. TC dominated FA way more and had an incredible high presence on all maps almost 24hours. There we cried. Ok, so now we got all these amazing guilds, that are a lot of fun to work with and I am really happy to see ho our community has grown and works hand in hand. Before we had all the guilds pretty much doing whatever they felt like and now we communicate with everyone.

So, for all those that are hoping for the guilds to all jump ship before paid transfers:
Sorry, we got beer, cookies and hot girls :-)

Clark Skinner.4902:

Cord.5371:

Karma, it’s called karma.

For what?

Also, it wasn’t DB who wiped them as said above. It was a huge FA zerg with 5 omega golems. I was on the wall looking down at them, trying to get a hit or 2 in before the wall collapsed at my feet.

oh, u were in EB…it was actually 10 omegas and 3 alphas and btw we went to DB side aswell but nnk guild ended up wiping us

Diehard.1432:

Enough of this drama. So what if FA getting stronger, so what if we are not in the lead anymore, lets just go with the flow and give them all we got. I am sure the experience itself is gonna be more rewarding than winning the tier

thank you i really like this post and gotta say since the reindeer parade i enjoy fighting your guild.believe me FA had a nice lead before entering tier 3 and we had to adjust even though it was hard at first as we just didnt have the numbers or tactics to stay in this tier. your post shows me that u have a great spirit.let’s all give our best!

Dolores.5471:

Oh god so many posts!
I feel like someone needs to summarize this past weeks in a few lines, perhaps I could try to:

1- CD starts to do good in tier 2.
2- IOJ and FA forum warriors insist CD is so very bad!
3- CD forum warriors accuse IOJ and FA of double teaming!
Yak Parade
5- IOJ and FA fight to stay in tier 2, accusing each other of various different things, because yes, they’ve always loved and respected each other!
6- IOJ explodes
Churning Earth Stack
7- IOJ mass transfers to FA, something that was obviously caused by CD forum warriors, who should petition Anet for the “You sunk the Island of Janthir” achievement.
8- FJ starts to win!
9- FJ forum warriors accuse CD forum warriors of being forum warriors.
10- CD forum warriors defend themselves.
Yak Parade?

Anyway, this whole forum warrior thing sounds very odd to me, because if you take personal offense of anything – game related – that is said here you’re:

A) stupid.
B) need to step away from your computer.

I don’t think we can judge IOJ guilds for leaving their server, loyalty in this game was already a very thin concept and with the paid transfers it was shoot to the ground. In the end people want to win, or at least have a chance to win, in this special case, both servers wanted to win over CD, and that was definitely a factor that brought them together.

I sincerely hope that in the end Anet trolls all of us by making the mass hysteria of the paid transfers morph into shame once we find out they’ll cost 10 gems!

ERm so many things wrong with the first part of this.

1.we are in tier 3

2 The fights between FA anCD started before that when teamed with TC/FA/CD, some FA felt double teamed as CD loved to take the opportunity to jump in if they saw TC attacking our BL.

3 IOJ moves down TC moves up

4 IOJ doing quiet well (the only time FA and IOJ had a little beef, was about 2 videos 1 from AVTR destroying us over and over and most of us took it with humor and second one was the golem rush fail. No other real beefs.

5 CD all of the sudden has superior numbers and attacking with zergs of 40+ and is able to cover all bl at once. IOJ and FA struggling, both fighting for second place

6 CD starting to make fun of FA (not all of them but comments like “who cares they lost lol”anger FA people

7 A few people from CD trolling people in forums

8 Some FA people get angry and tired of being trolled

9 IOJ and FA having awesome fights and admitting it

10 IOJ guild contacting FA guild night before reset

11 IOJ guilds transfering

12 FA gets a point lead for the first time since entering this tier and of course is happy about that

13 Some CD starting to vent because they are not in the lead anymore and everyone joins in {ugh cant we just all have fun?)

SO that being said IOJ did not join because of CD! They saw how dedicated we were in defending our bl(and some CD’s even mentioned how hard we fight for our BL)
1 of their guilds liked the playstyle of our guild and contacted us the night before reset. They were looking for a community that was friendly, dedicated and willing to work together and guess what? ALSO HAS A PVE community. If u have been on FA u will know that we have both. And its been a blast so far as we have a great communication

SO CAN WE STOP FIGHTING NOW?

i still like certain fights i have with CD as u guys have also some very skilled players.
DB ty for the epic fights at garrison last night, PRO had a blast

Bit.2519:

rhyein.6172:

Bit, send us more gooooooooooooooold.

1500 followers is my next giveaway

ok ill start recruiting more people to follow u, I need more gold XD.
But hey im advertising your youtube videos all the time…sssooooooo? jk XD

EnRohbi.2187:

Drarnor Kunoram.5180:

Toggles.1783:

Um, no.

Besides, if FA ever faced collusion like this, well… even Obi kittenenobi couldn’t help.

Just had to quote what this turned out as. Didn’t expect the filter to do that bit.

The EB jumping puzzle as of about an hour ago was surprisingly neutral. Lots of folks from FA and CD in there, but nobody was fighting. Everyone was just minding their own buisness.

Now, to the [Lime] guild camping the JP in DBBL. Next time you decide to dance on somebody’s corpse, you may want to try doing it to someone that didn’t kill you while on the wrong end of a 1v2. Then it’s actually a taunt instead of “I had my friends to res my dead body after they finally managed to finish you off.”

Someone from FA danced on the corpse of my level 24 warrior today, after I stood there and let them kill me (Who am I going to beat at level 24? I can barely kill sentries). Some people have no class.

Was it a norn ranger?If yes ill demote him back to stinky7…oh wait he is already there XD.

etrigan.4213:

No current FA guilds are leaving as far as I know.

HAWKS is taking a break.

ULTD left GW2 all together more than 2 weeks ago now. Sad to see them disenchanted with the game so soon before all the updates that are coming.

PTX bandwagoned to SoS about 2 weeks ago also. No great loss there to be honest.

I do miss PTX though, they were very nice to work with and when we lost them and ULTD, we did take a hit,but even with our numbers at that time we somehow managed to get second place.

Chaba.5410:

I just want to say that you DB peeps have been a fun and formidable opponent so far.

I agree, I had a great duel with a warrior and in the end we were both down in the end and u won, but didn’t kill me, you bowed and waited till i got back up. Wanna say ty to great respect of good fights. DB has a bunch of skilled players.

Camo.7498:

Morgul.1302:

Camo.7498:

Morgul.1302:

That was a neat trick breaking into SMC without even downing a gate DB..

Because I was inside SM for nearly 2hours yesterday (hiding while I was eating) I can personally say FA is doing a terrible job of sweeping. There was no gate down, you are correct. There was a Mesmer hiding >_>

oh no way! thats why it was the same mesmer porting you guys in, that was trying to jump the wall at durios 15 mins earlier right?

I refuse to argue. Just sweep better.

Yes SIR! WE’ll do! ;-)

RockonHarder.7235:

Jimmybass.2159:

If anyone here was on IoJ during the last few weeks, they’d know why many left. Our NA crew was comprised of a handful of guilds and only perhaps a hundred players spread across all maps. We did the best we could with what we had, but eventually internal problems started developing not only within the community but also within guilds like mine. We learned how to fight under adverse conditions and became quite tactical and tenacious, and because of that we were able to field the highest PPT many nights, despite having three outmanned maps.

What other competitive server can do that? Only one that I can think of, and that’s why we’re there now. Despite what’s been said here, Fort Aspenwood is still Fort Aspenwood. The playstyle hasn’t changed, only the numbers have. In the end, it gave everyone a fighting chance (to say the least) and it brought our spirit back into the game.

There are many people out there unhappy with where they are and trying their best to improve their situation, as we had been doing over the last two months. To those who are there for the sake of your server and not for the sake of the win, I applaud you. Week after week of server loss and guild departure after departure takes its toll. I’m sure we can all relate to that.

- J

:)

Dragonbrand can do that! and we did it for a month when during our NA prime time we could only field maybe 30 players between all the Bl’s and EB. We fought with honour and integrity the same that our night crew did.

And it payed off because here we are back up to tier 3 again.

GO DRAGONBRAND!!!!

gotta say, we can relay to that. FA has been pushed around in this tier for months now. TC trolled us so much that they even made a guild called [FA]GOOD LUCK IN TIER 4. but we still kept going and going even if mostly outnumbered. Then having CD trolling us constantly(not all of them, some were actullay quite awesome fighters and gave us credit for hard work.)

To all the trolls that are mad that we got numbers now: We DIDN’t get transfers…we just got more organized XD. jk

Jois.4827:

We have lotsa guild here. sticking with us from day 1 till now from my knowledge only 2 guild ditch the ship

Yes we are a proud server since day 1 and we are proud of it

forum warrior u say ? at least we didnt sought help from IOJ when the going gets tough enjoy ur bandwagon FA. it might not last

erm actually IOJ contacted FA and we are very happy with our new transfers, as all are working together and are friendly and fun.

killerlitter.4528:

To the [PRO] Warrior commander always diving straight into us. You’ve officially left a mark on me whenever I see you. It’s like the herald of the horde! Anyway good fights in FA BL. Was surprised by the lack of response at DB and Garrison.

[AVTR] didn’t expect to see you in FA but yea.. Cata was good attempt but your flanks were wide open.

Good fight and all the best to next week FA.

IoJ… not sure where you guys are anymore. No more steamrolling through our territories.

oh yeah i was there too, but we had to leave to defend our overlook in eb and then most of us went to bed after that. but it was fun fights. Bludgeon is not afraid to storm into the enemy, even if outnumbered.