Guild Wars 2

ErazorZ.5209:

sephiroth.4217:

ErazorZ.5209:

sephiroth.4217:

Ele beats reaper in my experience… Although I have 4 ele’s now and have been playing the class for over 3 years.

Can you please post the build.
Ive been playing ele for 13+ years (gw1 included ;p) and i have yet to find a way to reliably be able to beat them due to the sponge in the current meta.

Use S/D blind spam and air/earth control.

I might also have the advantage of having this mouse, compared to the notorious keyboard turner, then there’s also other factors involved with the fight such as their own personal skill/build and rotations… I find a lot of Reapers will use the same combo’s repeatedly whereas the Ele can easily switch up a versatile playstyle.

With an Ele, there is also the clear advantage of mobility, so regardless the Ele should not lose unless the players own greed becomes their very demise.

tldr: I’m not saying I’m good, but I’m saying there’s a lot more factors involved with an engagement that determines the winner.

well s/d doesnt work really. since you dont have sustain in the current meta with s/d, focus gives you daze and invurns and reflects. dagger offhand only give you a slight (on c/d) mobility increase, but makes you super squishy and any focus fire will kill you in the current meta.

Blind spam is also is not reliable, since the cooldowns of the skills is too high to actually be able to spam it. Even if traited.

And added, i come from starcraft, im very well versed with my keyboard haha. Got a ducky shine+razer deathadder. And from my personal experience mmo mice really dont give me any sort of benefit. Actually its the contrary. My keyboard is literally my 3rd hand at this point (wich is why i like playing the active s/f somuch)

Well like I originally said, other factors are involved with the engagement such as personal skill, S/D works really well for me, especially in the current meta. So does D/D.

Before you came on here talking about sustain and how useless ele is, have you bothered to even try a sage burn ele? Troll a firestorm on mid fight if you like, it’ll still melt an entire point.

But again, personal skill differences, I’m useless with focus and warhorn offhand, whereas S/D and D/D are the only weapon sets I like to help maintain an active play style similar to that of thief.

ErazorZ.5209:

sephiroth.4217:

Ele beats reaper in my experience… Although I have 4 ele’s now and have been playing the class for over 3 years.

Can you please post the build.
Ive been playing ele for 13+ years (gw1 included ;p) and i have yet to find a way to reliably be able to beat them due to the sponge in the current meta.

Use S/D blind spam and air/earth control.

I might also have the advantage of having this mouse, compared to the notorious keyboard turner, then there’s also other factors involved with the fight such as their own personal skill/build and rotations… I find a lot of Reapers will use the same combo’s repeatedly whereas the Ele can easily switch up a versatile playstyle.

With an Ele, there is also the clear advantage of mobility, so regardless the Ele should not lose unless the players own greed becomes their very demise.

tldr: I’m not saying I’m good, but I’m saying there’s a lot more factors involved with an engagement that determines the winner.

Ele beats reaper in my experience… Although I have 4 ele’s now and have been playing the class for over 3 years.

XxsdgxX.8109:

1000% what SchmendrickTheMagician said:

“Those who do not learn from history are doomed to repeat it.”

Was that a “The Last Unicorn” reference?

If so, my mind has been blown that someone else has even heard of this film.

The only reason I bought the expansion was to keep up with Elite specializations in PvP, aka P2W.

Elite: A select group that is superior in terms of ability or qualities to the rest of a group or society.

Stop comparing it to other games, otherwise I could kill 40 people and say “I’m not a murderer compared to Hitlar”, the fact is, you’re still a serial killer.

It’s also perspective too, a player who owned the core game before HoT, has to pay to win, or if you like, pay to keep up with those who paid too as opposed to a new player who only needs to just buy the game.

Older players had to spend $110 to be on par with new players who only have to spend $50.

Now gliding is out, where is peoples favourite gliding spot in Tyria?

Personally I’ve had a blast in the Black Citadel.

I’d be kittened if I lost my names… But the frustration of making a new toon name gets to me, especially when I type something stupid like “Broken Bottle Cap” or “Ice Bank Mice Elf” and it works…

JUst have fun with a Wanderers Amulet, no hard counters >:D

Not all of us play WvW to fight NPC’s (Flip stuff as you say).

I personally play for large scale PVP, which is what WvW used to be, so now I play ESO for my fix on that and main PvP on this game.

I really enjoy the PvP mechanics of this game, shame to see the large scale combat zone being neglected long enough to dwindle into nothing.

Balance update is tomorrow so a little hard to speculate what will stand out more.

I just got a friend of mine onto this game, he’s currently picking a class by trying them all individually in PvP where all his skills are unlocked for him, maybe try there?

I know he likes Reaper very much.

Toddler Logic:

If it’s yours, it’s now mine.
If it’s fun, it’s mine.
If you complain, I didn’t hear.
If you praise me, I heard.
If I made it, you play with it.
If it’s not there, it doesn’t exist.
If it’s broken, it’s yours.

I played unranked today and stopped after my first 2 matches, Skyhammer and Skyhammer.

Waiting on ranked return just to avoid that map.

Looks shiny, but like the luminescence it’s useless in PvP, pass.

I have a new wifi stick, which means a new ISP or something? Dunno much about fancy PC talk..

I signed up to some mobile authenticator thing for a minipet I don’t use anymore, but my issue is now I Have a new wifi stick and I can’t play without verifying my mobile code…

The problem is, what code? Am I supposed to get a message sent to my phone from america to australia or what?

I have a new phone since signing up for this thing, so can’t go through messages but that shouldn’t stop a text being sent to my phone should it?

How would I go about playing my game again? I tried unlinking it in account settings, but again it asks for some code it sent out to me (that I don’t have or never got), is there a way, anyway at all that I can play again or have I just been locked out of my account?

Edit: May have found a way to by pass it by logging under my old Wifi number and using my new one after I have logged in. I sent a ticket too if anyone knows how long this might take to fix?

If I have to PvE to unlock gliding in WvW, then that’s the final straw for WvW for me.
I’m already having a hard time finding fun with so many engagements being “Full Elite” vs “30 point Elite”.

The new map is awful, but I could see myself using it just for gliding purposes.

I have no idea what I’m doing on the map, I just want Hero Points to help unlock 17 Elites so when the map starts up, I sit afk at the Hero Point I want and patiently wait for help.

It’s not my fault this ruins your experience, it’s Anets design that I have to leave WvW/PvP to unlock elites at a less than average pace and puts fellow gamers who prefer PvE at a massive disadvantage.

My issue is Elites…

1. Fully specced Elite vs 30 points into Elite: Not fun for either side.
2. The cost of them is ridiculous compared to the current drop rate of badges.

One extra: Reset night being changed, as an Aussie that’s my Sunday morning now for WvW reset, so I get one day, for limited hours before I head to work Monday.

Jekkt.6045:

what does it mean to play in a “pro” environment? you pick 5 good players for a team, you decide on who is playing what and then you play a comp that is strong. if a build becomes unviable you change the build, if a class becomes unviable you change to another one. you keep players but you adapt. that’s what it means to be pro. having 8000 games on 1 prof and 300 on all others is a thing of the past.

It’s almost like you’re trying to say, the builds are now carrying the players?

#PassiveWars2.

Dawdler.8521:

Why would you ever torment yourself by playing 100+ hours of WvW to get a single elite? Once you get gliding, updraft and shroom hopping, its a ~2h rush to get 200+ hp.

Between work and family I only have a few hours of gaming, why would I waste that time doing something I don’t enjoy?

Would rather get some housework done.

Not sure if anything was changed on the downlow, but I’m getting 10 badges with WxP level ups now.

If it was thank you so much, the smallest things can make the biggest difference

Edit: Just realized it’s RNG.

Buy Some Apples.6390:

sephiroth.4217:

Guys….

https://forum-en.gw2archive.eu/forum/game/wuv/World-vs-World-Holiday-Sneak-Peek

It’s like, 3 threads above this one.

1) That post is from almost a month ago!
2) It contains nothing of interest that will save WvW. PPK will not save WvW
3) It contains the most used eta used for WvW updates: Soon™
4) We’ve not had an update or more details about it since.

All the above is just another cycle in the carrot on a stick race we call waiting for WvW updates.

I think the only thing the dev have ever done right for WvW is removing the culling.

Just look at the forum threads, it’s all negative reviews and complaints.
Used to be the mod would delete these, but now after the HoT release, things are so bad everyone is complaining!
We may have had that useless reply about PPK, but where are the replies to all our complaints?!
Things have never been so bad with WvW as they are now. The devs should be running around like crazy trying to fix things, talk to us about how to fix them etc. Instead we get nothing, just a silly post about PPK and the usual we’ll do it Soon™

The post was 3 weeks ago, it was then followed up by a PvP update.
Do you need Anet to post daily? They gave us a post before going on holidays, do they need to re-assure you by posting when they got back too? I’d prefer them to get working on these updates rather then re-assuring the forums every 5 minutes personally.

The forums are filled with trash like “Änet doesn’t listen” and what ever else, but that sneak peak was clearly showing us that they do listen.

All of HoT in fact, for WvW, were mostly changes asked for by the WvW community.

“don’t want to spend gold on upgrades” – Free upgrades/autopilot
“Need something to discourage zergers” – Built a map that punishes big groups
“Sick of small fight guilds taking important PPT spots” – Small guilds lost all upgrades and so forth
“Yaks are too easy to kill” – Now they have siege bubbles.
“Achievements too hard” – Unlocked them all for everyone who has played for longer than a year. (I have all of them now)

The list goes on, you get the point though why they don’t want to communicate with us.

Since HoT release, I’ve been pretty vocal about where I feel they Kittened up, especially with Elites, but I haven’t had the audacity to complain about WvW, because we got what we asked for.

I think the system is flawed, but the players are playing by the boundaries set by developers… They could have fixed it months ago, but they didn’t.

I didn’t PIP abuse, but I don’t blame players who did, they were only playing within the fields set by developers. Can’t keep blaming players because of game design.

The PIP abuse has fallen into several categories, the main 2 being: Those who use for PIP gain, and those who use for safety netting against PIP gainers, so they themselves don’t lose 2 from people using the PIP gain system.

Which brings me back to my first 5 words, I think the system is flawed.

Guys….

https://forum-en.gw2archive.eu/forum/game/wuv/World-vs-World-Holiday-Sneak-Peek

It’s like, 3 threads above this one.

LordOtto.2650:

You really think it’s enough 2 ele to win in stronghold? Yes in tier 1 and 2… You would be amazed how much stronghold changed.. “You know nothing X Snow”

Yes i do, from experience, but I’m just a casual low ranked player who plays with other scrubs.. but that’s all we do, 2 ele lord rush, win.

Or we Rev/Ele mid point in conquest. We been playing together for 3 years now under the same 7-12 man guild that focuses purely on WvW/PvP.

We also use TS which makes life easier against people who don’t, we also try to encourage the randoms in our games to join us on TS for better co-ordination.

Solo Q for PvP.

Open World Dueling.

Separation of WvW and PvE.

Elites to be account bound.

Team Death Match Mode for PvP.

Free For All Deathmatch mode for PvP.

Capture The Flag for PvP.

Increased Badge drop rate for WvW.

Customization on amulets for PvP or have 3 amulets in place for Armor, Weapons and Trinkets.

Solo Q.

Solo Q.

Solo Q.

I have a strong belief if it won’t get fixed then it’s intended design.

We are not the developers, we do not code the game, we do not set the boundaries, we are the players who play within the borders of the game designed for us.

I don’t agree with people who did the exploit trick, but I don’t blame them either because they are playing within the boundaries set by the game developers. Those boundaries could have been fixed over the last 3 months, but they weren’t.

I feel this is very unbalanced.

How do I level up 17 elites, with 200 notary scrolls and 12 badges with a badge drop rate of 2 per keep flip?

3/17 Elites finished, in WVW. How do I progress with my Elites? Does anyone know without resorting to PvE?

Any help would be appreciated please.

Morwath.9817:

sephiroth.4217:

Haven’t you heard? Rushing NPCS means you are skilled PvP player.

Still takes more skill than afking and self sustaining on point.
The real question is : Why Conquest is in Ranked?

Conquest you fight players, stronghold the only thing I do is roll Ele with a friend Ele and we push for lord in under 3 mins, mowing down NPC’s to get ready for the next 8 minute que….

Not gonna disagree about skill on conquest in current bunker META though.

I get annoyed at people who ask warriors and thieves to switch….

I prefer people to play the class they are most comfortable on, usually wields better results.

I do laugh when a warrior gets asked to change, and he returns as a thief. MAkes my day everytime.

I’m one of those players who loves to buy character slots and play fashion wars on them, Ive stopped due to HoT Elite grind involved (3/17 elites finished, got heaps of notarary scrolls but no badges left.) but after capturing my guild hall yesterday for my 7 man WvW guild I have done nothing but decorate the hall with my 2 choppers and 1 statue, made myself a little man cave on the gliding hall map.

Use a mango pie.

In PvP, using a Rev, used relentless assault and my camera was stuck until someone killed me… It’s happened twice to me this week so far.

My character is the Sylvari top left corner.

If it is the new action camera I’ve heard about, how do I stop doing it?

Haven’t you heard? Rushing NPCS means you are skilled PvP player.

My guild just captured the guild hall today… 2 of us… It’s long and expensive to unlock the things we already paid to unlock before HoT for our WvW focused guild.

I’m going strait to the Black Citadel!

Drarnor Kunoram.5180:

Aomine.5012:

Drarnor Kunoram.5180:

sephiroth.4217:

Play a DS Tempest until the condi builders manage to get it nerfed. Once that happens, condition builds can be free to rule PvP.

Sure, until people remember that they can put cleanses into their build. Current meta builds run very light on cleanses.

Remember when Shoutbow Warrior single-handedly removed condition builds from the meta? Fun fact: the anti-condition capabilities of the build were never reduced. If condition builds start to become overwhelming, they can easily come back. And that’s just one of the numerous builds out there that counters conditions without being totally immune.

Clearly someone hasn’t get into high division and fight a good condition viper rev yet.
They can put on like 6 conditions again and again on you in under 2 secs.

No-one is forgetting anything. Most of the meta classes have excellent cleanse, but most of them still can’t handle the amount of conditions from Reaper and Revenant. Even Druid can’t handle that condition. Need a Diamond Skin Tempest or condition transfer/boon strip Necro to do the job.

Yes, they can do that by blowing their energy. That is a burst. And like Power bursts, you can use your active defenses to stop some or all of it. Dodging Banish Enchantment helps a lot. Getting out of Unyielding Anguish also relieves a lot of pressure.

The fact is, though, that out of the top 4 meta builds, one has decent condi cleanse, and that is Tempest. However, Eles are crippled more heavily by Chill than other professions, and both Mallyx Revenants and Reapers put out a decent amount of that.

So if condition builds became more prevelant, you know what would happen? People would remember that cleanses are a thing and use more than a single one in their build.

You don’t use Rev do you? A spammable 3 stacks of confusion for example, keep cleansing, go ahead, but I’m positive those cleanses have a cool down unlike the confusion/torment application.

Warriors cleansing Ire, passive shake it off and utility version is not enough to cleanse a Viper Rev for example, an ele without DS will melt instantly the moment they’re not in water attunement….

If conditions build became more of a thing, I wouldn’t bother equipping those “cleanses”… I would just play a Viper Rev with Resistance spam, then avoid necros in game unless I’m +1 them.

I had a lot of success when my team has 3 bunk 2 burst.

I play a Berserker Amulet Rev and usually my team is all bunkers.

Play a DS Tempest until the condi builders manage to get it nerfed. Once that happens, condition builds can be free to rule PvP.

Evan Lesh.3295:

This has not been forgotten.

Can’t come soon enough!

15 charrs in skirts.

Qugi.2653:

TexZero.7910:

Jaxom.7310:

Basaltface.2786:

sephiroth.4217:

I’d love a dueling option, but a massive no thank you to gear checks. (PvP and WvW are not viable options due to build restrictions and server issues)

Dueling would have to be handled carefully as not to offend people, like something similar to GTA online, where you have the option to flag yourself as “combat ready” so players who weren’t interested could carry on with normal activities and not be effected by it.

and if you are not flagged as ready cause you maybe dont care about that feature you are the “coward”, the “noob” or “scared”….had it all, just throwing that in, whatever, carry on with the topic…

trolls are going to find a way to troll, its what they do. that doesn’t mean every1 who would enjoy a feature will also troll.

i’d think w/ the friendly, best mmo community out there would be supportive of more ways to play and enjoy the game, not restrict it

Duel in your guild hall or the Custom arena.

There’s 0 reason to turn a PvE environment hostile, volatile and full of petulant attacks.

This. There exist now 3 place where people can PvP/duel. PvP, WvW and now guild hall arena. I think the guild hall arena was Anet compromise for those that want duel in PvE gear while also respect wish of those that want no thing to do with PvE duel. But for some player that is never enough and want to turn entire game into PvP/duel area. People that like PvP/duel now have 3 place to do this. Leave rest of PvE alone thank you.

Last I have to say on this old argue. Like I say I think Anet make guild hall arena as comprise for people want to duel in PvE gear after they see many people post they do not want open world duel.

PvP, Guild Hall and WvW are not valid dueling options, the people who aren’t PvE focused know this too. (or anyone who stops to think for more than 30s)

PvP – Builds are restricted.
WvW – You are server restricted.
Guild Hall – I don’t think I need to explain what happened to most small man guilds. (My WvW guild of 12 people still need to claim the hall,)

We are just asking for a valid dueling option that lets players have fun, I’m sorry that so many feel that it would hinder their own PvE experience or there MIGHT be a few grievers in the mix, but hey Osama blew up a tower so all arabs are bad I guess. (How awsome is that logic!!!)

I know it’s never going to happen (Threads asking for duels since release 3 years ago), but the mentality itself on these forums will forever hinder game progression… IE: Thread asking for more melee staff skins was shot down by many because we already have enough skins apparently. People asking for mounts with no stat bonuses = bad idea too and so forth….

The people asking for this feature are trying to give options to accompany both parties involved, to work out a solution that would please all, if you’re so against it, then please give a real valid opinion and not a kitten concocted excuse on why you would personally not like it, work with us, work out a solution instead of just going “nup u have 3 options now kitten off”… Well, if those options were valid, we wouldn’t be asking for a valid dueling option would we? Hell, if WvW was open servers, I wouldn’t be asking cause I could just transfer to a friends opposing server for 10 minutes for that duel.

Maybe that could be our solution there, WvW open servers? It’s a dead game mode now anyway. It wouldn’t effect PvE players at all… What do you say to that option? That option surely resolves your issues and ours does it not? Or is it just a bad idea because it’s something that you’re not personally interested in?

PopeUrban.2578:

sephiroth.4217:

No more PvE rewards… It’s a combat zone, not a Queensdale champ train.

Rewards need to be WvW based, like siege.

They did away with the idea of “content specific economies” when they got rid of glory.

There’s no such thing as “PvE rewards” at this point.

Siege costs money and mats. The same money and mats that show up everywhere else. WvW has one content specific currency, badges, and it doesn’t need more.

The primary reason they did away with glory is the same reason they don’t need to make wvw a closed economy. It actively discourages people from playinmg multiple modes. In the glory/gold system for PvP, playing both modes meant you were just slowing down two forms of advancement in stead of getting unified rewards you could use wherever you want. For this very reason I didn’t play as much PvP as i do now. Playing PvP actively took away from my pve earnings potential. I couldn’t use my PvP time to buy PvE things I might want, I couldn’t use my PvE time to buy pvp things, etc.

We don’t need another split economy. We just new WvW to pay out well enough that you can actually afford hall upgrades, tactics, and siege scribing, make a profit, and not feel like you absolutely must switch modes to do it.

Lots of people do play the whole game rather than just one part of it. Completely split economies just encourage people to play nothing but 1/3 of the game. In stead of encouraging people to move around and play PvE, WvW, and PvE because they find it fun, people go “Well I would WvW two days a week, but right now I really want to make legendary skin X and I can’t make progress on my goal doing that part of the game, so I’ll just not play WvW at all until I’m done with this goal.”

There is “PvE” rewards, there’s also PvP rewards… and like you said, siege costs money and mats, so why not make it loot? Level up and get a ram + some green instead of 2 greens… Atleast the loot has some WvW elements to it.

I don’t know why people still play WvW, but I don’t go into WvW thinking “time to farm me some loot”, I go in saying “lets get some kills, level up elites and blow some walls up, get the carnage started!”…

As for people playing different modes and needing encouragement, that’s an issue right there in my eyes, when did people stop playing the game modes they enjoyed because they were fun? At what stage is it a good thing, to be encouraged to play a game mode? If it was fun, that would be enough wouldn’kitten Without the bribery?

Your legendary comment too, WvW was removed from map completion and separated from PvE a while before HoT, that was a positive move on Anets hand.. PvE players weren’t forced to play a game mode they didn’t enjoy to be able to make their Gen 1 legendary.

The Guild halls are a joke and should not have been tied into any sort of grinding at all, many WvW guilds were small, and were pushed out of the game mode due to WvW and PvE being linked, which is why I say WvW does needs a split economy, it needs to be separated from PvE altogether.

But opinions are opinions.

Lack of balance and communication can do that to players who genuinely care about the game.

I’d love a dueling option, but a massive no thank you to gear checks. (PvP and WvW are not viable options due to build restrictions and server issues)

Dueling would have to be handled carefully as not to offend people, like something similar to GTA online, where you have the option to flag yourself as “combat ready” so players who weren’t interested could carry on with normal activities and not be effected by it.

ReaperJr.5967:

Mysticjedi.6053:

sephiroth.4217:

It’s a lot easier for newer players though, they haven’t settled into a 50/50 win/loss ratio set by the system yet, which is why you see so many r40 and under already at legendary compared to all the legendary champions stuck in Ruby.

This is a true statement. With no adjustments made, the system can give a wider variety to more inexperienced players as it tries to figure out how to get them to 50/50. The more games you have the more you’re pegged within a +/- range that will hinder progression.

Let’s face it though. This only really matters if the division represent skill. I wish they did, but they are a grind fest. There is no need to be mean to people who are in Diamond or Legendary unless they think it means they’re good. Divisions are like personal scores in a match, they give no indication of skill.

Just play and try to have fun.

It’s funny because I haven’t seen any r40 or below in legendary. Or know of any. Simply put, it’s impossible for them because they haven’t grasped the in depth mechanics of the game. Their mmr may be more volatile but their lack of understanding and mechanical skill offsets that. It is easier for them to progress up the leagues, but only till ruby and possibly diamond. Moreover, mmr only accounts for 50% of matchmaking.

Also, I’ve found it very hilarious to see how contradictory people are. Many are, like you, fervent believers that divisions do not represent skill. Yet, they whine and make a big fuss when
1. They matched against players of a higher division than them
2. They are matched with players of a lower division than them

I mean, if they truly believe so, it shouldn’t matter what divisions their team mates and opponents are right?

The “If I don’t see it, it’s not true” logic is childish.

There’s a few low level legendaries, the person I have in mind, played Druid, key board turned, got on point and used his GS block without moving, got attacked and never moved just popped signant, then popped troll urgent, still not moving or dodging, that’s how he played his way to legendary.

There was also a thread a day or 2 ago about “Ultima Troll” afk’ing his way to legendary…. https://forum-en.gw2archive.eu/forum/game/pvp/First-Legit-EU-Legendary/first#post5895465

In regards to mechanics, I didn’t realize we had stronghold available for the last 3 years, Or completely new builds with Elites, I honestly thought it came out with HoT, only a few months ago, which would put everyone on equal footing in terms of mechanics whether you’re rank 10 or rank 80.

We’re also really kidding ourselves if we think you need to possess any form of skill in the current meta, it’s so build and passive focused at the moment that any skill level can compete because the builds will carry the player, not vice versa.

Foefire screws over DH the most… Massive points makes it easy to get on point without hitting passive traps.

No more PvE rewards… It’s a combat zone, not a Queensdale champ train.

Rewards need to be WvW based, like siege.

I managed to rally 2 people in EB over the last hour, WvW is not dead.

Aidan Savage.2078:

sephiroth.4217:

Will Season 2 rewards be added to Laurel vendor?

Will anything new make it to the laurel vendor?

I got nothing to spend hundreds of Laurels on, already have the minipets, tonics and skins.

S2 rewards are in the laurel vendor. You just need to actually finish the achievements to unlock them.

Daaaaammnn….

I haven’t left the mists in like 2-3 years (except for a run through of HP for reaper). Still haven’t tried that wonderland snow thing yet either haha

0-2-6-1-0-1 (personal opinion – personal opinions vary from person to person)

If you really want your build rated properly, make a build, use it in PvP and get your verdict there.

If you’re bad, your team mates will complain, if the build is useful, then nothing will be said at all. Just like at work, you know you’re doing the job right if no one says anything.