Guild Wars 2

Bacon Please.8407:

Low and Behold. The Devs have finally released a significant patch giving warriors some new traits, abilities, and an entire new system to the class Called boon hate. Now I’m not saying everything they are going to add in is going to be perfect or maybe it will fit right in but i would like to say with this update we are finally seeing some major changes to classes which makes me happy because even if the content if these new features are crap, they are trying and paying attention to warrior. I just can’t wait for the new features to come Live so we can experiment and try new possible builds. I expect over the next few weeks that warriors might be a topic of major discussion in the community. I just hope I can tPVP again on my warrior soon

So thank you to the Devs for giving warrior some of your attention.

Yeah, warriors needed some help in PvP. They are going to be OP in PvE and WvW (in zergs not when roaming) though.

Harbinger.8637:

Guardian is in a good place right now, and still will be after the patch.

Both warriors and thieves needed the buffs. Pretty much when you activate might your next three attacks will be unblockable, and the boon hate is a trait.

Also spirit weapons are getting another hp buff.

When you say classes need buffs, it depends on where.

Warriors did NOT need buffs in PvE or WvW. They did need buffs in PvP.

Will.9785:

See topic. Getting sick of fighting guardians with their block up constantly. I fought one today and I swear I was just swinging on him for 10-15 seconds non-stop w/ my auto-attack while he just stood there basically ignoring me.

So how do we deal w/ them?

People talk about stealth like its overpowered but it is nothing compared to this nonsense.

It’s really not that big of a deal. You just need to fight guard differently than a ranger. That’s the same as needing to fight an ele different than a mesmer. Adapt your style and you will be fine.

Nah. No point in nerfing this. There are a lot of issues in the game and this isn’t one of them.

I agree with the queue information but don’t really see the point into number of people online. The queue piece would be huge though.

pixieish.9627:

My god! You know what this might mean? People might start playing warriors in WvW! Except if all the warriors starting nomming on lemongrass soup, the price will rise up to 20 silver and, well…

Warriors are already one of the most popular Zerg classes. The upcoming changes to warrior should make that even more so.

JJBigs.8456:

Coming from the #1 WvW Server, Jade Quarry, I think I can lend a good opinion to this. I myself am just a player, non warrior for WvW but,

two of our really good commanders, are hammer warriors. Ive never seen anything like this, he will rush into a zerg, headfirst before even checking if there is players behind him and he doesnt die unless the entire team dies sooo it must be doing something right. Theres something epic too about going in headfirst to save your commander. Yes, i believe its gaining popularity

This is so true. I also think with the upcoming buffs that they will become even more FOTM.

I like the new reset times. It is better for most people than 6pm EST. I probably would have kept it at 8pm EST but 9 isn’t too bad.

Downstate is not an issue. People go down, and you stomp them. Easy.

The only downstate issue is with eles who can mist form through portals. That needs to be fixed. Of course eles in general are the most broken class in WvW at the moment.

Well done Devon. I know there was a lot of criticism for the decision last week. This message today was the best possible news and exactly what was needed.

Personally, FA is my FAVORITE server to play against. The reason why? Quite frankly, the scoreboard at any point in time does not matter. It is about the battles while I am playing, and my favorite part of WvW is zerg v zerg. FA is usually willing to fight that way, even in an open field. Win or lose, it makes the game fun.

Go TC!

Every class has a thread like this. With only a few tweaks, all of the classes are pretty good at this point.

As for mesmers, I don’t have one, but they do not seem OP to me when playing them.

Buzzcrave.6197:

This is stupid. Hammer warrior? I’m in tier 2 and I barely see a hammer warrior in a zerg. People will want more necros/mesmer/eles in their group for the combo field they can offer. Hammer warrior? I can take 3 of them with my hammer guard anyday.

Just for the sake of the topic, the most class I find atm is mesmer, thief and d/d eles. Engis gain a lot of popularity too, but it will never pass those 3 class that I mentioned.

Lol, sure you can.

But yeah, tier 2 is where I play. Most of our top commanders in TC have switched to hammer warriors and away from their previous guard/mesmer/thief mains. When commanders switch, others start to follow them.

I am specifically talking about zerg warfare here.

The better question is why are thieves so scarce in WvW these days.

First this is not an OP thread. That’s not the point.

It seems that warriors are the current flavor of the month in WvW. They also seem to be using hammer as their main weapon.

So, thoughts for the community. Are hammer warriors really that good in zerg warfare or are people just bored and trying a new class?

A zerg with 25 people can beat a zerg with 50 people in open field battle today. The 25 person zerg just needs a good commander and the other 24 people need to listen to the commander

sostronk.8167:

Mark my words, Eles will be the next “OMG need to nerf class”, as soon as eles get good at the game.

People, including Anet, have been saying this for awhile now. The first nerf was to healing in sPvP (this needs to be carried over to WvW as well). The next nerf will be to mobility.

Caedmon.6798:

They are now busy googling the next OP class/build.

They found it a long time ago. It is D/D ele

@Devin – Glad to hear that this being worked on. I just wish this had been the only priority vs making a short term change. All that did was increase the number of people who have an inconvenient reset time.

Mister Mustard.7203:

Mike.7320:

I need players to match my skill. Simply put.

I’m not sure there are any.

You may just have to destroy zergs by yourself.

Mister Mistard for the win. haha

I wish ANET would come on here and say, “Hey, we listened to your feedback for a change and have decided to keep the current reset time. In the next few weeks, we will have separate reset times for NA and EU. At that point, reset will be more convenient for everyone”

One can dream.

For TC, it is really tough to determine a top 5, but here is my list. So many good commanders on the server.

Nightlight[CERN] – The zerg buster. Probably the top overall commander
Odinzu[EP] – Great when he is around. Plays for like a week straight and then disappears for a month
Zudoari[iNf] – The best overall offense commander
Commander Jadon[PiNK] – Great to follow
Pride Lionheart [TV] – The “stack” commander. Always a good time running with him.

There is no good resolution currently. Someone gets a bad break regardless of the reset time. Instead of making this change without much thought, ANET should have instead focused on creating separate reset times for NA vs EU. That way both areas would have a more convenient time.

Queues are still as bad as ever.

Just make it so that you need at least 5 people hitting a gate to make it contested. Problem solved.

Ilesyt.7084:

All I hear is you US complaining. Right now the playing time for central europe is 2 AM! TWO AM! Do you realize how ridiculous that is ? Even if some players WANTED to join in (i.e. the pug) they will maybe play half an hour then be off. You US players can still pitch out more people than you would have if the reset was at 2 AM for you. In fact now you can have an even better coverage and be less susceptible to night capping because all your people went to sleep and your keeps weren’t upgraded enough and suddenly you lost it because that one server has a bigger night presence.

No, a better solution is to separate the reset times for NA and EU. That way NA can remain as is and EU can move several hours earlier. Isn’t that better for everyone?

Nabrok.9023:

Perhaps a better idea might be to place the reset on Saturday rather then Friday. I think that time, and perhaps even earlier, would work on a Saturday.

I like this idea. I still prefer separate reset times for NA vs EU (ANET has always said they are very different servers so this should be possible), but if for some reason we cannot, this would be a good middle ground.

No no no. This is really bad move for those on the west coast in the US. I think there should be 2 options:

1. Leave it as it is
2. Create separate reset times for NA vs EU. This is the preferred solution.

VitalSuit.1980:

Thieves as well? I hope this is only for pve and not pvp because thieves are the last thing that needs a buff.

You probably haven’t done much tPvP. Thieves are not all that valuable there. They are mostly good in sPvP against people who are learning new classes.

As for dungeons, thieves definitely need a buff. They are currently the weakest class in that area.

People still play thieves in WvW? I rarely see them anymore.

Disagree with the OP:

A good commander is one who can either:
1. Defend points
2. Capture points

A great commander can do both.

If a commander yells and you do not like it, follow someone else.

Strongest overall class: d/d ele. It does everything. Best evades, great healing, aoe damage.
Current FOTM: Warrior (not saying they are overpowered, there are just a lot more of them recently)

and you need siege for PvE why??? The OP post didnt make any sense to me.

That said, asking if a mesmer is porting is just lazy. Just go look.

Remove waypoints? No no no. There is already too much walking in WvW. In addition, I think your theory is wrong. It would encourage MORE zerging. The best way to stay alive is to be party of a zerg

Niim.9260:

I am not sure why it matters? TC is their own sever, they get to make decisions for themselves based on what they think is best for them. If they want to go to T1 that is up to them, if they think they can add a bunch of transfers and stay in T2, that is their call.

While I appreciate that folks are disappointed the relative balance of T2 is no more, it was not going to last forever. It is the nature of the game and how we as players play it. While we all have opinions, sometimes it really is none of our business.

Great post. Also, as of right now, if you look at point gaps between 1st and 3rd place, tier 2 is the second closest. It has been a very balanced weekend. Of course the weekend is typically TCs lowest scoring time period, so I guess we will see.

Huh? No. Play sPvP if you want more even ground.

In WvW, the terrains adds in more strategy.

You know it is close to the end of the week when the trolls on each server start posting. Thankfully, they turn into pumpkins on Friday at reset.

Overall, this is still the most balanced tier. The battles are fun.

Go TC!

Svarty.8019:

Cina Reas.6938:

Warrior, Guardian and Elementalist v Thief

Thief wins easily by being invisible for more than 50% of the time.

It’s pretty obvious from March’s State of the Game that the devs think everything is Hunky Dory with thieves and that elementalists are the problem because they can DPS and tank and heal.

I think they need to realise that it is invisibility that is the issue, not the thieves’ other powers. HOW can a guardian “punish the enemy for their position on the battlefield”, as stated in Jonathan Sharp’s Class Balance Philosophies when they can’t even see the thief? And now they talk about BOON HATE and nerfing of AoE (one of Jonathan Sharp’s Thief Counters – see above for this quote, “counter their stealth with area of effects”).

Actually, WvW is mostly a zergfest these days, at least in higher tiers. Thieves are not that valuable there. Mostly thieves are good for killing out of place noobs.

Mayoken.9851:

Hey. I’m the leader of CO. I read the last two pages of these forums and rest assured that sort of behavior does not fly in CO. I’m sure each guild and server has had one bad duck in its midst or a player that wants to “screw” around a little one day when they know they shouldn’t. The matter from TC Borderlands has been resolved and that player has been removed from our guild.

Hopefully, TC can be at peace with that. Great fights this weeks and even though Kaineng is struggling to keep up in the PPT we will continue to fight strong and not give up!!!! Rock on guys.

Well said. While I was surprised to see this happening, I had no doubt a class act guild like CO would resolve it. See you on the battlefield.

Go TC!

No No No. Mug only hits hard if you are using a power build. You do NOT see big damage if you are using a typical S/D type build.

Buffs for commanders? No no no no no. Do I need to say it again? No No No. Everyone would just have commander tags on then.

Commanders need just one special ability… the ability to unclaim camps/towers/etc that do not have buffs.

I agree with everything you said other than #8. I’m not a fan of NPC stuff in WvW. Also for #5, I think there should be an icon for GUILD teams. That would allow your guild members to see their commander without cluttering up the map for everyone else.

This is definitely the most balanced tier that I have been part of (I’ve been on TC since the launch). It is a lot of fun.

As for 2v1 matchups, I do not see that happening, at least on purpose. Since the three servers are so evenly matched, there is a desire to knock off the “top” server. Last week, TC won, so this week we will face more attacks. If FA holds on to win, next week, they will get hit the hardest. It is just playing smart.

FXLEACH.9436:

“Okay TC, I know you were frustrated while trying to kill me for awhile near our spawn in TC BL (1 against 15). When you did finally kill me, well done. Although please refrain from spamming /laugh as it comes across as quite hurtful.”

Yah. If I see that happen again I’ll tell ’em to play nice.
I really enjoy sparring with you, Holy Pickle, and your mesmer friend (shatter cory? I forgets).

I’m a mesmer now, retired my necro for a while, and really enjoying it. Saw you earlier in TCBL, you had your tag on and I popped a phantasm and a clone on you, and then a mini zerg rolled over me.

Looking forward to more fights!

Except I’m banned for the next 3 days… :c

So practice hard and I’ll see you on the battle field in a lil while!

Plus it is tough to know what people meant by a laugh. They may have been laughing at themselves for taking so long to kill you. 1 vs 15 isn’t really an accomplishment.

or maybe they are just the less desirable part of our server. Who knows.

Go TC!

Guardians the best PvE class? Maybe the most boring PvE class.

It just depends on what you like. You cannot play with the same gear/weapon combos in WvW as you do in PvP.

WvW:
Large scale group battles (this is the reason a lot of people like WvW. If you are looking for 1v1 or 2v2 battles, stay in PvP)
Ability to use the weapons you earn in PvE
Very tanky specs
A lot of walking
Server/Guild Pride

PvP:
Much faster action
Glass cannon is actually a viable spec
You will die a lot more here (kills are probably equal with WvW)
Individual/Team Pride

For those who enjoy WvW, the daily is a grind. On most days, we can do 3 of the 5 daily items and then need to jump to PvE to complete some pointless task in order to finish. That’s not fun and defeats the original manifesto of the game.

Likewise, those who want to PvE, get stuck with WvW items in their dailies. That isn’t fun for them either. Instead we should have 3 dailies and people can pick the one they enjoy the most

PvP: Same as now
PvE: Remove all the current WvW tasks and add in more PvE items
WvW: Dailies that can be completed exclusively through WvW

Wow, a sad state for the class. The guy in the video is a really good thief and still struggles against anyone other than an uplevel. The thief class needs help.

haha. Funny. I didn’t know people still did the JP. With the increased loot drop rates, there isn’t as much need to go in there.

This is a great idea. I hope it happens.