Guild Wars 2

Ben K.6238:

“Most” did not vote for 1 month rotations. Most voted for more than 1 month, they just didn’t agree on how much more.

They made the right decision. 1 month was the wrong decision. End of story.

Yes, because picking the option of 15% of the vote is the right decision.

Gotta love logic.

ANET, you kinda messed up here. A lot of people who wanted matchings to happen more than once a month voted for once a month because that was the lowest option.

2 months is definitely better than the original 3 months, but still is the wrong decision. The new matchups are exciting for the first 2 or 3 weeks and then get boring. I’m sure your own play numbers reflect that.

Cyninja.2954:

While the raid team does a great job, I have a feeling that Arenanet will be moving away from raid content design. It just doesn’t attract enough players compared to the ressources it consumes.

I sure hope so. At some point ANET needs to realize that following the wildstar approach isn’t the best idea. Build content for the majority of players, not just the relatively small number that actually do raids.

I am completely tired of hearing about raids. Create some content that the majority of people want to play.

Cerby.1069:

Tl:DR: I feel Whining = winning when getting the things you want for wvsw lately, and rationale and logics need not apply. This is concerning, and I honestly am hoping for a dev response of some kind here or elsewhere to address this.

This certainly applies to your post. As others have said, the reason why DBL were removed is because people didn’t like to play them. It was not unusual to see large queues on EB and empty maps on the BL. ANET has the stats to back that up. Actual playtime is more important than any other logic that you think should be applied.

If you think any of the seasons have been about fair matchmaking, I don’t know what to say. You are playing in a league where one team is stacked so that it can win before the game even starts. I’m still surprised anyone plays.

Go do overwatch or something more fun and maybe ANET will hire someone to handle the matchmaking soon.

In other seasons, the OP might be correct. In this season, it seems most people are bored and would rather play overwatch.

Chrono.6928:

Just have seen a lot of primordial legends and s2 legends in sapphire recently. I guess skill doesn’t matter if there’s a premade 50/50 w/l ratio.

Two possible reasons:
1. They have all the rewards they want and are busy with Overwatch. They play a match or two a day to get the daily.
2. They played mesmer during the first two seasons and are having trouble adapting to having to actually play.

Tyler Bearce.3427:

Hey guys, below is a list of upcoming polls you are likely to see, in roughly the order you are likely to see them.

• Mixed Borderlands – Do you want a mix of Alpine/Desert Borderlands maps?
• World Linking Schedule – How often should we relink worlds?
• Deployable Mortars – Do you want to be able to buy and deploy Mortars?
• Deployable Cannons – Do you want to be able to buy and deploy Cannons?
• Repair Hammer – Do you want to be able to spend supply to repair siege?

Special Mention

• WvW Priorities – What do you want the WvW team to prioritize next?
  • We’ll run this poll after completing major milestones with whatever feature last won the Prioritization vote. So in this case: Scoring Improvements.

I just hope the choices are valuable. Don’t do a poll like:
Do you want a mix of alpine/desert?
Yes
No
Unsure

That’s a horrible way to collect information. A lot of people will select no because they don’t want a return of desert but your poll won’t collect that information.

@OP: That’s not how it works. They essentially try to find 10 people who are in a close range. They then take the top 5 of those people and put them on one team and the other 5 on the other team.

The original intent was to allow high mmr players to get out of the lower tiers possible. ANET didn’t really think it through though and so now you have a broken matchmaking system.

The balance is bad, but the matchmaker is a lot worse. I don’t even understand why people want to play a game where one team is set up to win every game.

It is boring, win or lose.

Maybe the OP means compared to unranked.

Ranked is still horrible, just less horrible than unranked.

It’s funny how engi isn’t even that strong right now and people still complain about it.

Cyanon.1928:

System feels more fair.

If thats the experience for the majority. I have to congratulate ANET for their work.

You need to look at it differently? What do we expect of a matchmaking system?
1. Close games
2. Neither side is favored to win through MMR.

Current system?
1. Close games? Too early to tell. Jury is still out
2. Neither side favored? Fail.

The matchmaking guy gave up and so they just did a mix out S1 and S2 matchmaking.

It’s sad that ANET has failed here, but hopefully they will bring in someone from the outside who has some new ideas.

Nocta.5274:

There is nothing wrong with conditions build right now, especially after the removal of Mercenary Amulet. The problem is you.

Depends how you look it. If you play a condi build, then yes, nothing wrong with them right now. If you play against a condi build, it will be painful.

or maybe you should read up on how matchmaking works. Then you will be able to answer your own questions.

@OP: I don’t think that solution is realistic.

A better solution is that a condi clear should always remove the most damaging condition first.

King Cephalopod.7942:

style.6173:

I agree that guardians can use some help. Just no buffing traps or spirit weapons. Passives are not fun.

U wot m8?

Traps take zero skill. It should be a gimmick build and not the main build for a guardian. I’d prefer to see support guard or even medi guard buffed to become meta again.

They should do a season where it is solo queue only. Even a duo queue is a big advantage over a 5 person pug team.

I agree that guardians can use some help. Just no buffing traps or spirit weapons. Passives are not fun.

I can’t wait to see what the matchmaking guy has been working on since the start of S2.

Katoh.4069:

What does everyone think? Honestly im not sure you can play Mesmer with viper and without the hybrid ability I think Mesmer will fall much farther down the list of class tiers.

I sure hope it does fall a bit. Mesmer was the best class of S1, and was the best carry class of S2. It deserves to be more middle of the pack after that. Same with Rev.

I think we know the balance team doesn’t balance very well and the matchmaking guy doesn’t matchmake very well.

That said, those two things have little to do with eSports. The problem that ANET has is two-fold:

1. The PvP marketing team isn’t very good. They didn’t even announce the S2 finals until a few days beforehand. Get some hype going earlier.
2. Give more focus on pro league streamers. Again, you need to build the hype. When you have top players in the game getting virtually no viewers, it is a problem.

Fluffball.8307:

style.6173:

too many other good games are getting released around the same time.

“GW2 is Dead because of _” post: Check!

Want to bet? I’m saying there will be fewer players in S3. That is 100% correct.

1. Many new games are being released… overwatch battleborn, uncharted, etc. A lot of new stuff to try.
2. What is the incentive to play? The legendary backpiece is done for many people
3. No word yet on matchmaking. It was garbage in S2. Will it be better in S3?

At the very least, switch who is paired with who more often? I’m already bored of the current matchups.

Mysticjedi.6053:

For those of us who don’t watch, what happened?

Here is the tldr;

“Cries. We are being punished for frost being a cheater.”
“Cries. It isn’t fair that frost got caught.”
“Cries. Wahhhhh. We had a disconnect and ANET should have let us have a rematch”
“Cries. Because everyone knows we are cheaters, we aren’t taking the season seriously”

Actually the OP has a really good idea. I’d like to expand on it.

For S3 matchmaking.
—If someone solo queues as a thief, group them with 4 other thieves
—If someone solo queues as a different class, group them with a random group of non-thieves.

Dramen Maidria.1034:

All hail the new revenant overlords

Where have you been? Rev and Mesmer have been the best two classes for the first two seasons. Rev has been broken during that time and will continue to be broken in S3 unless there is some surprise nerf next week.

Obviously there is a double team, but who cares? Only a small group of people really care about score anymore.

Most people have come back to WvW for the non-stop action. Enjoy the fun and don’t worry so much about who is attacking who.

Fuzzion.2504:

TheGrimm.5624:

Fuzzion.2504:

Sorel.4870:

Anet said in the ask-me-anything on reddit that they planned to rotate the BLs every three months.

Well if theyu bring back the dbl and swap out the old bls, Me and many others will be leaving again.

That’s the problem with rotation, we lose people either way. Doesn’t even matter how many, losing people either way is the issue.

The reason we lose players is because of the lack of wvw endgame. The sudden surge in player numbers is due to the Old BL. But whats there after 2 to 3 months? DBL is crap. Anet knows it. But they refused to believe it. So unless new masteries, endgame, tourney make some entrance we will see players leaving in a few months again.

^^ 100%. There are a few on the forums who really like DBL. Those are the few who actually play on DBL as well.

Ever since alpine came back, we see a good balance across all maps. That’s the important thing. DBL was a nice try but it failed. Do not bring it back.

insanemaniac.2456:

as an engi main, nothing current is as easy as turret engi was. by a long shot. mesmers do not simply click all the utilities and shatters and then autoattack from range. there is a certain ordering and timing required that turret engi simply did not have.

additionally, the leaderboards from that period of time reflected skill in no way.

Trap guardian says hi

mrauls.6519:

style.6173:

@OP:

It is better to watch all the games before posting a thread like this.

There are only two classes that are required: Mesmer and Revenant.

After that a team is required to take an ele or a ranger

The other two spots are open to whatever and we saw all classes represented today.

What teams that didn’t have an ele, range, mez, and rev won? Does anyone know?

All you had to do is say I was right. You listed 5 classes and were wrong. Again, just watch the matches before posting next time.

@OP:

It is better to watch all the games before posting a thread like this.

There are only two classes that are required: Mesmer and Revenant.

After that a team is required to take an ele or a ranger

The other two spots are open to whatever and we saw all classes represented today.

VM is a good team. They got an unlucky break on the DDOS.

That said, I hope the rest of VM wasn’t part of the dirty play by frost. If you were, VM should have been banned as well. Personally, I would have given frost a lifetime ban from gw2. He doesn’t deserve to compete again.

TheGrimm.5624:

Allow players to choose. Don’t restrict us. Give people all maps as options at all times. People like different maps for different reasons. Keep as many as possible. Normal decay will remove players overtime. Don’t force any out that you don’t have to.

People did choose. They chose not to play DBL. I don’t get why anyone is arguing for it now.

Evades aren’t really a big deal on anything other than staff 5. That’s the one skill that does need adjustment.

The bottom line is it doesn’t matter if you like the map individually. To you, it might be the best map ever. The problem is that the majority of the WvW did not play it. It was annoying seeing a 100 queue for EB and then no queues anywhere else.

Since the return of alpine, the queues have been spread between the maps again.

That’s the only stat that matters.

Exciton.8942:

definitely not. Current server already at its limit in terms of holding population w/o lag.

If you find queue too long, you should blame whoever overstacks the server.

So basically you are telling us to blame ANET since they essentially overstacked many of the servers with the new pairing system.

Ravenmoon.5318:

Cry for nerfs, like everyone on this forums seems to be doing lately. What do you know, you might have it your way.

Yeah, because ele is perfectly balanced right? lol

Expect to see fewer players in S3. The novelty has worn off and too many other good games are getting released around the same time.

Take a ban and be proud of it. It means you said the truth and ANET didn’t like it.

Dawdler.8521:

Hahaha its overwatch open beta now… every single streamer in existance will be all over that.

Plus overwatch is a lot more fun

@OP: You have no clue what you are talking about. A vocal minority? In case you can’t figure it out, the reason alpine was brought back is that people didn’t enjoy playing on desert. Why did we see queues on EB with relatively few on a dbl? Think about it.

It’s funny how people try to defend desert now. There was a reason that no one played them previously. The desert map sucks. The player numbers don’t lie.

Don’t worry OP. Mesmer will still be the strongest class in season 3.

@OP:

The fact that people didn’t want to play on them says everything we need to know. Having a season and forcing people to play on them does’n’t prove anything.

The maps were a failure. Move on.

DBL sucks. Glad they are finally gone

Booms.2594:

im literally crying right now that none of the 0 basis nerfs to dh were reverted

Not sure why a game affects you so much. Anyway, I do think the LB 2 nerf was too much BUT, and you will dislike this, traps should have been nerfed more.

DeWolfe.2174:

Cecilia, your message is going to fall on deaf ears. It’s what the Dev’s wanted and nothing can be done until the lock is lifted. Have fun and just wait the next 3 months out.

lol. Yes, ANET said “Let’s do a pairing system so that JQ can fall”. lol

The truth is that Yak’s got hurt a lot more by the server pairing. Anvil Rock had no one.

I am actually excited to see shifting positions on the leaderboard. It is exciting. Matchups were stale before