Guild Wars 2

I’d give it to Northern Shiverpeaks.

Great fightin spirit, lots of talent, and some very dedicated guilds.

Yarr went to Henge of Denravi? What a weird thing!

Bllade.1029:

You’ll still find FKB, VLK, Rawr, MU, PHZE, and many other WvW oriented guilds hitting the field no matter what.

cough What?

so disappoint

Regina Buenaobra.6193:

Prysin.8542:

Regina Buenaobra.6193:

I play WvW pretty regularly on my World and started playing a lot more WvW in the past 6 months or so. I don’t hop around; I’ve stayed on the same server since launch (not a top tier server BTW), and have no plans on leaving because I really like my guild and my server (which IMO is one of the friendliest around).

I don’t rep the ArenaNet guild when playing because I don’t want to be a distraction to others (or a target) and I also just want to play the game as a regular player. If people happen to see me repping the ArenaNet guild, it’s because I’m there on business. When I do that, though, I’m usually not in WvW, but attending a player-run community event.

I CHALLENGE THY!!!!!
To record a 10 hour gaming session, with your tag on, in WvW. Solo Roaming.
Rules:
1 – no abuse of admin commands
2 – must be done on servers within kitten or T3
3 – no kittens
4 – you must be wearing pink panties

First, I don’t game in 10-hour sessions (I’m getting too old for that :p). I’ve played 6 – 8 hours at the most, but more commonly 1 – 3 hours at a time.

Secondly, solo-roaming is actually what I do most, especially in BL. I’m the kind of player who will go around either solo or in small groups (4 – 5 people) refreshing siege, staying behind to repair walls, spotting/scouting, going off to retake remote camps, disrupting supply caravans, do guard duty, and other activities like that.

1) I don’t have GM commands on Live, and even if I did, I’d never use them.
2) I’m very happy where I am, thanks.
3) I hope Chauncey von Snuffles III (grown-up cat BTW) doesn’t count.
4) Is that a feature request/suggestion? XD

What? We can do that?

Ahem, I would like to request the feature where you send me pink panties. You have my VISA and mailing address.

Guru.1582:

VaaCrow.3076:

Instead of complaining about your servers doing badly and moving to higher tier ones, you should build up your community and DRAW people from tier 1-2-3 servers to your low pop servers because you have a nice community and NO QUES/little lag….

Funny how people are so willing to tell other people to do this, and yet so few actually will.

Admit it. You don’t really think it’s plausible for any random person to start a Grassroots mega-campaign to revitalize their server, do you? Long before it gets to that point, they’re likely to just jump to an overpopulated server, exacerbating the problem, or leave the game, ditto.

People just say “Naw, you just gotta turn into a community organizer the likes of which gaming has rarely seen” because it saves them from having to say “Yeah, WvW in general and this league in specific are poorly planned and designed, fundamentally.”

Most servers are doin their best to recruit. For months, it’s been threads after threads, Devona’s Rest had that awesome video, people making videos showin off the server, guild, whatever. All it gets is people burned out. Tier 1 still has more threads than probably the bottom 12 servers combined. They’re recruiting all the time too and they have more people doing it.

The game rewards people for goin up with more money for less effort. The bottom servers have been bleeding people for months, it’s tough to get somethin goin from scratch, it’s much, much harder to build somethin from somethin that’s fallin apart, especially when ArenaNet is actively working against you. For a lot of people it’s turned out to be very demoralizing and not fun, which is not what you want when you get home from work.

There is no payoff, either. You’re not going to get rich or suddenly climb to tier 1, at best you’ll move up a couple tiers if you’re one of the lucky bandwagon servers (not like transfers magically make you good at fightin bigger scale fights), people that transfer aren’t going to be from higher tiers, are going to be like any other people and have their own drama that you’ll have to deal with later. Most likely they’ll leave for a higher server (what’s one more move after you’re made one?).

I kitten on people who say “make a good community”. The truth of it most servers have good people that make a good community and they’ve had it for a while. You’ll find fantastic people to have fun with everywhere. Stuff about good fun fights is fine but at this point in the bottom tiers there’s also stuff about empty maps in off peaks and being bored to death or findin yourself defendin garrison with 2 people against 10+.

Caliburn.1845:

Anet did not create the disparity, they just allowed people to transfer to other servers. Eventually all serious WvW players migrate to those servers seen as “serious” about WvW.

Why should anyone serious about WvW have to play with people who do not share that mindset?

It creates enormous population imbalances. But it is driven by player choice, and Anet giving the players the freedom to transfer.

There isn’t a particularly good solution to the problem, unless you want to ban server transfers entirely.

ArenaNet did create the incentives for people to move around. First it was free to do so, then it was better hurry before it costs things, it still has to do with gold offers, better WXP farming, and just one season of leagues must have moved a hundred guilds around. Where’s the ingame incentive to stay on your server? Hm?

How serious can someone be about WvW if they quit their world? Especially if they did so again and again.

This has to be a troll topic.

Avatar of Belle.9623:

titanlectro.5029:

Avatar of Belle.9623:

Welcome to every t8 server. I like the outmanned buff. Who doesn’t want more mf?

GoM was a T8 server when leagues started. Clearly there is more than one possible outcome.

No, no, no. There is only one possibility. Once you go T8, you never go back!

Once you go tier 8, it’s forever your fate?

A year from now, every server will be in tier 8.

Grumpdogg.6910:

6 hour tiebreak battle for SM with no siege and 400 player limit per server.

Tiebreaker or serverbreaker?

Jeknar.6184:

It’s funny that a PvE guild already know about WvW exploits… Maybe someone is teaching bad manners to the kids huh?

What? You think that I’m going out showing the fresh faces in WvW how to exploit through doors? Is that what you’re saying? I’m not offended that you’re wrong but I am a lil’ disappointed and sad that you that’s what you think of me and the rest of my server.

Look, we’ve been at this a long time that I figured we’re all friends here of a sort. I wouldn’t say something like that about Eredon’s Terrace folk.

Oddball.7128:

Im not one to moan on here but I found this such a sad cheap move I thought the GoM community should see it and make their own minds up about it. We got our EB keep back and a GoM[vox] Mesmer lets themselves die by the portal so his guildies can exploit and try res from outside to presumably port a larger group in.

Needless to say two of his guildies come, die in their attempts and both lie there waiting for more to come over and res. Being a bit stubborn we built fail siege and waited it out till they respawned about 30 mins later.

GoM youre more than capable of taking our keep if you really want to, especially when its now paper. This is not a dig at your whole community cause you have some great players and I have had some very good fights roaming versus you. But seriously this is cheap and ill let you do with it what ever you like, just thought you should know. Attached are screen shots, first being the Mesmer, second is a guardian and last is an upscaled necro all from [vox].

Tinker Titch
ET Roaming Engi

vox is a PvE only guild, they only ventured into WvW when leagues started and so I wouldn’t expect their members know what they shouldn’t do. I don’t know anyone in there personally but I will bring it up in the meeting tomorrow and get someone in contact with their guild leader and let him know that’s not what is good for WvW or the server and to stop doing that.

I make no promises about other people’s behaviour, report people you see exploiting.

Latinkuro.9420:

morrolan.9608:

Kaos.9162:

Also, I’m fairly certain that most of them at least don’t have any special powers, I think they play on retail accounts. The Anet tag by their name is a guild that they’re all in.

No its like another version of a commander tag.

more likely that’s what gives them GM command status and protocols.

I asked a dev about it. It’s just a guild they rep. Just happens the ArenaNet guild has a special icon beside their name. If they’re rep’ing it, it’s ‘cause they’re feelin social and the tag is a conversation starter.

Colt.9051:

styx.7294:

K U T M.4539:

Jeknar.6184:

Opc.4718:

tl;dr fighting zergs at 1fps and winning because #1 spam is OP. Also, cleric guardians outheal everything.

I disagree… I can outheal a cleric guardian on my magi guardian.

I can also outrun a centaur.

uh, they give the same amount of healing power. Cleric guard would be tankier though.

In some situations, magi gets to heal dodge more through the more frequent crit vigor procs.

I imagine it’d hit like a wet blanket tho… what with having next to no way to deal damage anways… =/ Doesn’t seem very practical of a stat set for guardians.

Full magi is probably really bad, haha. Full cleric’s though can probably be improved on with magi pieces as well as others. Like a lot of things, I’d say the way of forward is murky and full of trade offs. At least recently I started to think about introducin magi pieces (Incomingray’s influence really) but there’s none to be had at the ascended level.

The dev who reps ArenaNet on our server hardly makes it to WvW, only seen him there a couple times.

Mordecai.6318:

Interceptor.2653:

TeamBattleAxe.3901:

Not much, considering I was able to hit high stacks frequently without even equipping weapons…

OK. I’ll just respond to the people who understand what Perplexity runes actually do in real-world situations, then.

perfect. thank you.

No, this needs a response: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1z-d9vGO52E&feature=c4-overview-vl&list=PLL0zgxysk21_89P-ffAS2B961HEemQxno&noredirect=1

In green armour, one interrupt + perplexity runes substitutes for your entire bar of weapon skills and can out DPS warrior, thief, and warrior and thief.

Address that. Put it in context. Show that it isn’t unusual for people without weapons (or any defensive utilities really other than their single heal skill) to drop fully geared thieves, warriors, thieves and warriors at the same time.

If that doesn’t get an explanation, perplexity runes are going to be the absurd corner case that are out there basically doubling people’s DPS.

Confusion isn’t like any of the other conditions. The damage is incredibly spiky (you can take thousands of points of damage during a single second) and with lucky/skilled timing unavoidable.

K U T M.4539:

Jeknar.6184:

Opc.4718:

tl;dr fighting zergs at 1fps and winning because #1 spam is OP. Also, cleric guardians outheal everything.

I disagree… I can outheal a cleric guardian on my magi guardian.

I can also outrun a centaur.

uh, they give the same amount of healing power. Cleric guard would be tankier though.

In some situations, magi gets to heal dodge more through the more frequent crit vigor procs.

K U T M.4539:

Opc.4718:

losieight.4807:

Ar so bad, 15+ wiped by 4 in open field..

ET/GoM so bad, 9000+ wiped by me in open field..

See I can do it too, and do it better c:

Except his actually happened.

Hm, when I fight 4-1 odds they usually just run me over!

Tongku.5326:

This really should have been addressed before Season 1 started. What is happening now is many people are leaving T1 due to the ques, and stacking on the discounted servers skewing the matches even further.

What guild of more than 5 people has come to Bronze league from tier 1?

Tongku.5326:

Both these buffs are just fine considering the amount of WXP they require.

The only change I would make to them is to spread out acquiring of the stacks. So that for example you get 1 stack at rank 2, second stack at rank 5, etc. Not give all 5 at the top.

This would help the balance quite a bit.

Saying that being unbalanced is fine because it is grindy is nonsense.

The issue is that it’s something like 100 hours between someone having that buff and not and that’s the only difference.

Seriously, someone that gets the game and wants to WvW:
~80 hours to get to level 80
~50+ gold to get exotic gear (assuming you don’t buy expensive runes or sigils and if you want some divine gear, you’re in a lot of trouble, my friend!)
~weeks of guild missions to get ascended junk
~months of laurels to get more ascended junk
~hundreds of gold to craft ascended weapons
~who the hell knows what we’ll have to crawl through to get ascended armour

Hell, when is this person ever going to get to do WvW let alone do it as an equal crafting and farming all this crap?

’Cause on top of that

~100 hours to get these buffs before he can even start looking at the other interesting WvW skills

By the end of this year, what is the difference going to be between someone that’s a fresh exotic gear 80 and someone that’s fully geared with every buff? 30%? 50%? Last thing this game needs is some stat-stacked kittens goin “Ha-ha! My damage, hit points, armour are all 1.5x yours! I am so good at the game”.

You want fresh and healthy PvP communities, don’t gate them so hard. Creating separate WvW builds, making separate WvW gear, and buying consumables regularly is enough of a bother when switching from PvE to WvW, don’t add a wall of grind on top of it.

I repeat. For the love of all that’s good and holy, don’t a wall of grind on top of it.

Solstice.1097:

Jeknar.6184:

Sorry, but the only server that pulled out T8 by themselves was GoM. (I’m not counting DR and Kaineng that became bandwagons to leave)

SF pulled out when Anet increased the rating for both ET and FC
HoD pulled out by draining rating from even higher ranker servers when the random matchups started

I like your story bro, but don’t add things that aren’t true.

hahaha GoM has no right to talk about T8 yet. They were T8 for what…. 2 weeks before leagues started? We Fergs were T8 for almost a YEAR! Until August our total match wins was TWO! Then, without any transfers, we recruited PvE’ers from within and restructured TS and other changes while other servers imploded, leading to us winning 4 out of 6 matches prior to season 1 and pull ourselves up out of T8… for good.

The only other server that can claim to have done so with no significant transfers is ET however they went right back to T8.

It used to be ET was the only server we could beat. Now we are comfortable against ET, AR, DR, GoM, and KN. We also beat SF and DH before season 1 but we’d already heavily recruited our PvE base and don’t have a big one to begin with, so once SF and DH took advantage of that same opportunity it definitely gave them a leg up on us. For now

Jeknar isn’t even from Gate of Madness so not sure which of us are talking about tier 8.

We’ve been in tier 8 a couple times and not for very long either. I’d say it has a lot to do with how the winds are blowing and how much our PvE folk wanna show up. We didn’t get transfers, we’re still the same server with the same people that a month ago lost to ET, AR, FC. There isn’t anyone that we’re not capable of losing to if our morale is bad enough.

Of course, I dunno how much morale is in anyone’s control so I feel like how the server does is mostly out of my hands ankitten ot really to give out credit to anyone, haha.

Guardians have spirit bow so can we get stealth too?

Ice bow should give stealth skills too, in fact.

Skosh.1483:

Ash already turned down a request for GvG for some odd reason.

Well, they are a PvX guild. They have pretty dedicated WvW folk but that’s not most of their folk.

Skosh.1483:

LOL o so you want all the videos we have wiping GoM??? We have plenty of that ill get my guildies to post the videos soon. That’s the funniest thing I’ve ever heard HAHA every time my guild runs into you you either run the other way or get wiped. And ASH why did you turn down a GvG Against IoM for? Scared??? I think so

Videos of a guild doin good are fun and good for building server morale but if you’re only posting them to show convince people that you’re good, I have to ask, why don’t they know you’re good already? Weren’t there any Gate of Madness folk gettin wiped to tell the tale?

ASH is PvX but I would love to see them in a GvG =) Talk to Paragues!

I’d be interested in doin a 5v5 with my guild sometime. I dunno when we’ll have time but I would like to give my guild more practice against organized groups.

Skosh.1483:

LOL its funny all the forum warriors get on here posting pics of our Bl at 6am in the morning. Its called people have lifes and jobs to get to cant gw2 24/7. Why is it you guys wipe so easy or run soo fast for??? I think the only great fights we have had this match up was from Ar’s TFH. So GoM when you see us please dont run we just want to farm you.http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=twRXCZXFCL0 just for you gom

I… am speechless. It really speaks for itself. Really.

Runamok.9638:

doublebb.6574:

Aww, you mad brah? No need to get them panties in a twist this early, we’ve still got a whole week ahead of us.
xD

I will enjoy a week of GoM bags. I play for fights, I won’t be playing 24×7 for pvdough aka avoiding fights all week. Enjoy your track star skills while I rack up my kills. I am having an awesome start to this matchup.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BpsGNfiqVqA

-brotha

Clicked it thinking it would be a gameplay video showing us what you’re talking about.

Zepher.7803:

Here’s a thought, go get Guard leech and applied fortitude.
they put the time in to get those buffs why shouldn’t you?

Your thought is bad. I have the buffs and you clearly don’t speak for me ’cause I want the buff gone.

The game shouldn’t give an advantage to people who play longer. WvW is a PvP place where you test against people, not spreadsheets against spreadsheets.

Equipment, food buffs, these are things you make choices about and your choices comes up against the choices of people . That’s still PvP (though I’d say maybe the stats can get a bit too high making combat uninteractive in some ways).

Getting higher stats for playing longer is none of that and just invites people who play long to be lazy and bad. No doubt lazy people can post here all day long how they like having things in their favour all the time (with weakass excuses about how they’re more special than anyone else) but I kitten on that.

The buffs are an absolute yes (not to mention unbalanced, 2k hp on guardian is way more valuable than 2k hp on warrior) for everyone in every combat situation and they just create dozens of hours for people to grind for a stat increase.

Green arrow is always a riot.

The other notable green arrow night stream: http://www.twitch.tv/teambattleaxe/c/2844502

With no delay and we knew that somethin like half a dozen FC on the map were watching it.

I still think it’s alright.

People just need to not lose their heads when they lose territory. Maybe they just don’t like feelin like the entire week long match involving thousands of players isn’t somehow in their control.

Jeknar.6184:

Avatar of Belle.9623:

This thread is going well. A bit more chest thumping and I’ll be very happy.

Please, refer to SF/HoD/GoM thread and look for [MU] posts… (I belive they are on page 7).

They’ve come from tier 1 to inspire us. Screenshot evidence lets us know that you can beat bigger numbers with smaller numbers using secret tech like voice chat, working as a team, and WvW specialized builds.

just pokin fun at the new guys!

capmasterflash.5690:

lunyboy.8672:

styx.7294:

Crunk n monkey.3749:

To the [MU] engineer that killed me while I was getting a Vista in my own BL. If I find you, I’m gonna break your hand.

Don’t be silly.

Forget the vista, fan your bloodthirst, use this, grow stronger, kill all the engineers!

Been noticing a bit of focus on my engineer… wondered why.

Also, if it takes 4+ of you to kill one glass staff Ele, you are terribly bad, and should spam /laugh to cover your shame.

I remember you! There were four of us there, but I don’t know how many of us it would take to down a glass ele. Come to HoD windmill tonight and we’ll see!

Is everyone as confused as I am? Here’s the story as I follow it: 4 HoD killing 1 HoD glass elementalist who is an engineer that I’m focusing down from work without having logged in because an engineer on my server did PvP by a vista in a PvP zone?

Perikittenor.1892:

Well don’t throw the get support from group as a thing. If you are allowed to be protected by allies, are not your foes allowed to coordinate. Or are you using the book in a 5 vs 1 fight?

The stability before you go into the book is one of the few things that are really good however and that one is a good point, but it is kinda obvious already and i think most of us use it, yet sometimes you cant time them together as you might have used one stability to get you out of a pinch.

He means like have someone stealth you so you can pop the five heal.

I usually end up using it without stealth. In the middle of a fight, people might have burned their CC already and you can maybe get the 5 skill off 50/50 of the time. All the book’s skills are great though. Sometimes there’s not even a need for the 5 skill.

The thing that bothers me about it is you can’t revive someone with it on.

Crunk n monkey.3749:

To the [MU] engineer that killed me while I was getting a Vista in my own BL. If I find you, I’m gonna break your hand.

Don’t be silly.

Forget the vista, fan your bloodthirst, use this, grow stronger, kill all the engineers!

A berserk build might serve you in 1v1 but I wouldn’t push it past that and I imagine warrior is in every way better at that.

To me it doesn’t sound like you want what the guardian is (less mobile, less DPS, less solo’able). Our best WvW builds are tanky, low DPS, big support.

I dunno if mergin even based on WvW population would work. I sorta feel like the WvW population has sorted itself by the type of WvW they want. Top tiers for zergy fights and bandwagons, bottom tier for small fights and die hards.

Sorrow’s Furnace isn’t getting transfers because 99% of transfers are to a higher rank. No one here is getting transfers. Kaineng was probably the last time a lower ranked server got guilds from a higher ranked server. It has nothing to do with names, recruitment threads, and only somewhat related to gem costs.

Here is anecdotal evidence: on Gate of Madness, the only guilds we got that aren’t roaming guilds were PF, TCMM, and Zombieland. Only PF was from a higher ranked server and they quit/moved back pretty fast.

Edit: The servers aren’t getting merged. They’re filled with people, just people who don’t care much about WvW.

Keiel.7489:

Waiting for a bronze leaguer to complain about their top 3 being stacked.

Waiting for a gold leaguer to defend stacking their top 3. Is this how the game is played?

Righteous.4307:

styx.7294:

Righteous.4307:

We didnt spill into anywhere. We had a group of ~20-25 running with us as well as ~2-4 sentries letting us know where SF mobs were.

You’ve been in bronze league enough, I’m gonna do away with this misconception. You’re one of the biggest groups that any WvW guild in this league can field.

For example, if you see any group of 15+ on Gate of Madness, it’s a pick up group. If you see any guild that is 15+, it’s not even PvX, it’s a PvE guild.

From my experience, what you’re saying is untrue. [MU] feilds somewhere between 20 and 25. You will at times find another 5 running with us, but we run without a commander tag whenever possible to keep pugs from following and being rally bots for our foes. We are a tight group that play together as often as possible, and we value group play, build synergy, and communication at the highest level.

This is in sharp contrast to guild groups you will see on a nightly basis where the beliefe is that the number of players = winning side. I won’t name guilds but there are pleanty (on every server) you will see with this mentality that run with 50-60 when they are in WvW.

No, name these guilds in bronze league that run 50-60 nightly in WvW.

I am not letting such an unfounded statement stand.

Righteous.4307:

We didnt spill into anywhere. We had a group of ~20-25 running with us as well as ~2-4 sentries letting us know where SF mobs were.

You’ve been in bronze league enough, I’m gonna do away with this misconception. You’re one of the biggest groups that any WvW guild in this league can field.

For example, if you see any group of 15+ on Gate of Madness, it’s a pick up group. If you see any guild that is 15+, it’s not even PvX, it’s a PvE guild.

bleach.9074:

Biggest point spread in Bronze: 58k
Smallest point spread in Gold and Silver: 117k

This has been fairly typical every week of league play. When leagues are over and we resume regular play, we should continue to have very competitive matches when IoJ and NSP get reintroduced. DH is in a sweet spot for competitiveness. I love it.

Seriously.

I love it. People still complain about numbers and stuff but it’s great down here.

WhiteRose.6934:

Please take all this talk of courage and valor and just shut up for goodness sake. It’s a video game, I’m finding this quite pathetic that people are crying about bull like this.

You want courage and valor? Let’s think about what day it is eh? Those Veterans have courage and valor, not anyone here sitting on their butt playing a video game. Take your drive for courage and valor and make a difference in the world, the actual world.

Shut up, and move on.

Not worryin about nonsense in the real world is what this distraction is for.

Devon.9061:

To be honest styx.. your post confused the hell out of me..

“Henge of Denravi wins no fights. They haven’t won a fight in 5 weeks. To win fights, you have to be at fights. A week before leagues, Henge of Denravi heard there might be fights and ran away and hid so that there would be no chance of fights for 7 weeks.”

I personally could give a rats kitten about winning bronze league. But from what Im getting out of it is you are saying there isnt any decent fights in Bronze league. Many fights revolve around guild fights… Please clear this up for me since there are fights in Bronze. We have wiped, and we have done the wiping.

On a side note, HoD didnt change a single rank during our “tank” we did not fight weaker servers. We fought servers 5 ranks above us. Yes, some of our WvW guilds didnt play the week. We still do that. Either cause we are bored of being camped / lack of fights / we are tired. The week before we had a match with KN that went down to the last day.

~On another note VLK is up for GvGs / Duels.~

Hugs and Kiss,
~Devon

Alright, lemme try this again.

It’s not important if you didn’t change ranks, it’s only important you tried to not gain rating on purpose to avoid silver league. A server should always fight, no matter the odds. That’s courage, that’s purpose, that’s valour.

When asked hypothetically what you thought of having hard fights, Henge of Denravi said “No, we’d like something easy for 7 weeks please” and that’s the crutch of it. It’s what you said that I hold against you for those 7 weeks. The server that only wants easy fights.

When Tossed Fish said somethin to the effect that you were on PvE vacation for that week, I thought “No, what you’re choosing is a 7 week long PvE vacation over WvW”. So heart broken. =(

Mercabre.7123:

styx.7294:

Look, I understand, Henge of Denravi wants to feel kitten but I am going to give you tough love. It’s ’cause I care.

Henge of Denravi wins no fights. They haven’t won a fight in 5 weeks. To win fights, you have to be at fights. A week before leagues, Henge of Denravi heard there might be fights and ran away and hid so that there would be no chance of fights for 7 weeks.

So there can’t be posts about Henge of Denravi bravado, ’cause WvW is about fights you guys made sure to avoid fights for all of the league.

Maybe after this league you will come out stronger and that would be nice to see but for now when tested did you show unyielding courage? No. Unrelenting bloodlust? No. Willingness to stack the odds so high as to show your quality? No. =(

Sounds like someone is mad because they are losing. Look, someone is going to win Bronze league and the best bet is, it’s going to be the server with the most or near the most amount of players with the most coverage. That happens to be HoD (according to current score). Someone has to take first place and it happens to HoD (currently). If you are saying that we should have moved up in leagues then why should SF be bumped up to silver as well? The scores are almost equal and this is just the first of a two week matchup with them. Does this mean that several silver league teams should be in Bronze? NSP was supposed to be better than HoD, would you rather fight them instead?
And don’t forget that all three servers that were on the brink of moving up to silver league “slowed down” the week or two prior to leagues. This is not an isolated case of “HoD is tanking they are kitten” because everyone did it that had a chance of moving up but in the end it was NSP that moved up (and probably rightly so). It’s not a question of the server but of human nature.

As far as the open field tactics and fighting goes: [EXCLUDE EB ENTIRELY, we’re talking about guild groups not pug groups] SF has been the leader in point tick during prime time, they have more people during prime time so this makes sense, but it is not a question of points when we’re talking about open fighting. In the Open field, HoD is number one in Bronze. Plain and simple. If you’d like to test this statement, we have quite a number of guilds that would jump at the chance of a GvG. SF does have really coordinated groups (I don’t know how you get them all to stack so tight) but HoD has the tactics.

Reminder: Fightclub Thursday 9pm EST HoD BL (Yes, we’ll be nice and make the run)

I think you’ve missed the point. No one cares if you’re in Bronze league or not or who is winning what.

Lemme repeat the relevant sections for you.

“Henge of Denravi wins no fights. They haven’t won a fight in 5 weeks. To win fights, you have to be at fights. A week before leagues, Henge of Denravi heard there might be fights and ran away and hid so that there would be no chance of fights for 7 weeks.”

This isn’t about losing. Why would I be angry at Henge of Denravi? I love you guys! You and Northern Shiverpeaks are my favourite non-Gate of Madness servers. I wish you guys the best but in the tale of two servers, one showed spirit and courage and one did not.

I hope to shame your spirited heart of war into action for season 2!

Edit: Northern Shiverpeaks didn’t tank. They did for the first couple days (+100 PPT at prime time) but they quickly changed their minds (over +300 PPT at prime time rest of the week). Kaineng didn’t tank either, turns out they are just a much weaker server. It’s all on you, Henge of Denravi. Don’t be pointing fingers at other servers.

Edit 2: Maybe this is old news to you but I didn’t wanna say anything in match up threads that didn’t involve me. Plus you made a choice that lasted for 7 weeks, so fair game for 7 weeks I believe.

Arius.7031:

Solstice.1097:

In NA Bronze league:

HoD has the most total 24/7 numbers

SF has the strongest NA Prime force

DH does not outnumber HoD. Maybe on a particular map or a particular time of day but in general, no that is false.

Perhaps, but it was certainly close and almost every single zerg I was with did outnumber HoD’s zergs (and we usually lost, that’s what’s really sad).

For a bunch of servers that are barely getting by because of PvE influx we sure are kitten their performance.

These are probably the most useless threads. Is the original poster interested in choosing a class and believes they can be ranked (with no criteria or context given) from 1-8 and he’d be okay picking #7 but not #8?

I feel like this is just bait for ranger hate.

wave to Talia!

sephiroth.4217:

Hmmm…..

tried to delete the thread but didnt work lol

Thank you to everyone that replied, for now we are staying to see how things pan out but if it comes to transferring it looks like ppl in the guild are going to go separate ways to servers of personal choice or different games in general.

Then hope things go well on Isle of Janthir for you guys

DevonCarver.5370:

Ebisun.9682:

Zero impact in my opinion. The ppl would transfer on the last day and no problem. But what is the point to punish someone after a transfer? in theory, transfer to a lower server is not anything bad. I think is better to try to encourage ppl to make transfer to less populated servers.

The point is not necessarily to punish people, but more to add an increased cost to transferring. If you are switching worlds to be a spy or because you are bandwagoning, it makes a difference if you can’t play WvW after doing so for some period of time. It may not be worth doing, I was just curious what people thought.

Storing transfer requests and processing them at reset? It would keep transfers from messing with matches that are under way.

To people who say this is part of the game:

I didn’t buy this game to be in a staring contest for 2 hours with someone watching Netflix in another window.

If it’s a mechanic, it’s kitten and I want it out of the game.

Well… I dunno how familiar you are with my server but…

We’re mostly PvE, PvX, and roaming guilds workin together as well as we are always trying to see how we can better ourselves and have fun. We’ve been doin commander/WvW trainings for our new achievement hunting folk who are turning out to find WvW is pretty fun and we got regular events to help us work together and keep our momentum goin. We’re middle of the league so we’ve got great fights against everyone and honestly since leagues it’s kinda been smiles all around. We even have a new website too http://thegateofmadness.com/

Gate of Madness would love to have you guys. =)

Stun and blind are way different, no sense in comparing.

Personally, I think immobilize is way more dangerous than blind.