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Well, we do tend to see each other a lot, especially the old Ghetto folks. You guys used to have us over to your homes sometimes but the Legendary Defenders didn’t like out table etiquette and wouldn’t let us in anymore! (unless we stealthed and ran in)
I think those tier traps definitely made us all get to know each other well. I would love a HoD/NSP/GoM match (as bad a match up that is for us) since that’s where I know people the most.
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I don’t want to insult anyone here, but as TCer playing against Maguuma & SoS now, I fear that the next 6 weeks are going to be hell for these servers.
These two servers are gonne get BUTCHERED when they got to play against a T1 server.
And against TWO T1 servers… I am lacking the words to describe what that will be like for them… Unless those T1 servers show mercy on them, they won’t even hold their own garrison in NA prime, me think.
I don’t think Bioware thought this league-thing trough, to be honest.
/me shakes fist at Bioware
Why won’t Bioware listen to our Guild Wars 2 problems?!
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if you want a quick fix for the skill lag however you are welcome to transfer to a bronze league server they don’t have it.
Bronze servers have had tons of skill lag since the leagues started. Get your facts straight.
Tons of skill lag? We streamed all reset, which included a queued borderland, and didn’t have any (people can check it themselves). Haven’t had enough people to have skill lag for months, including since league.
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Started out good but then went into a rant about people you don’t like and how you’d like to control them.
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Just transfer and guest to your original server when you want to PvE.
This is the best choice for the problems you listed
Coulda saved space by just saying bandwagon.
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THIS IS FOR LEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEK!
gt yer assus handud #sweg
Good fightin!
Killed a few of my guild mates, haha (fights speak for themselves so not gonna argue about anythin… though not sure what warranted the RH comment. I guess I’m flattered you guys think of us?)
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I’d say warrior or thief. Personally, I’d lean more to warrior.
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I’m pretty sure if you get swiftness from symbol you can stack any non-symbol, non-mesmer focus swiftness on it.
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This and mesmer focus 4 don’t stack swiftness like everything else to keep people from running back and forth to get really long swiftness buffs.
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Every server has some organized play. Find your website here https://forum-en.gw2archive.eu/forum/wuv/recruitment/List-of-all-Community-Websites/first#post2980454 and get in touch with the player base, your server’s voice comm and you’ll find people to learn from.
If you’re interested in commanding, definitely there will be a commander there who will be happy to help you get started =)
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Servers are a big place and I don’t think any one person knows everything that happens in it.
I certainly feel like I know very lil’ though I had a lot of long conversations with a lot of these guilds and individuals about whatever was on their mind at the time.
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If you want to control all the variables and units in a game, then you’re going to have to play a single-player game. In an MMO you are always going to be at the mercy of other people and there will inevitably be some that you don’t like/aren’t good/clash with your ideas.
Anyone who paid for the game and is not actively griefing (and no, being clueless or disorganised or not speaking your language is not griefing) has as much a right to be there as anyone else, like it or lump it.
You’re talking about PvE. In which case I would totally agree with you.
PvP is a different ballgame. Team synergy and cooperation are arguably the most important factors in a match. Why bother with having PvP at all if you can’t coordinate anything? It doesn’t make any sense to say you can’t form teams in a competitive environment…
sPvP is a ballgame. WvW is a pub brawl.
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Please for the love of GOD come to Anvil Rock and help us. Zero queues on all of the maps and we will love the crap out of you. Most of us are incredibly friendly and WAR/MERC guilds are actively looking for anyone who enjoys wvw and wants an active community in ts.
Also, I am incredibly determined to not come in last place. I will stay up for the entire season flipping crap if that’s what it takes to beat DR.
Anvil Rock are cool guys. Don’t burn yourself out though. It don’t matter what rank you are just that you can find fun.
What do you or GoM know about fun? PFT!!!!
Mister Honeybuns and I are cheering for ET and DR to pull themselves up.
GoM… please tank, crash and burn.
I pop fireworks and kill people in interesting ways because I don’t find throwing hissy fits and stampeding to stacked servers to be very much fun.
Buuuuuuuuuuuuuuurrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrnnnnnn…..
I hear the GoM voice comms used to be a funny place to be back before the IoJ Exodus.
The guilds/people who transferred were usually not the ones engaged in community as much as others, which included the Teamspeak. Even RISE was a bit isolated due to their timezones (which sadly made it hard to do events with them outside the weekend).
I would be curious (not to judge as much as receive feedback outside of my own) as to why your source would say that because it hasn’t been my experience.
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Well, for me, I used to go to WvW on GoM and try it….AND could never find many people to play with. Hard to learn that way. So I’d stay for a little while and then log off.
I thought about transferring to another server before the league began, but I really like the GoM community, so I decided to be loyal even if looked like WvW wasn’t going to be a big thing on GoM. Wow—was I and lots of other people ever wrong.
SO…for me, I can now log on and play with lots of people and finally learn WvW. It’s fun and I like it and I hope GoM can keep up the enthusiasm!
Awesome! If you haven’t already done so, ask around in /map chat for info about the GoM website and community-wide Teamspeak server. It’s not just restrictive to WvW players. We’ve got forums and chat channels set up for other things like dungeon raids and guilds.
Let’s not be coy! The website is thegateofmadness.com
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I cant participate in WvW and do something good for my server because my free spot is occupied be useless, achievement farming kittens.
You don’t deserve the “spot” any more than anyone else does.
This right here is always the debate in games like this. Depending on how Arena net handles this issue will determine larger the type of playerbase they retain. Personally I disagree with you. Simple fact is some people are more useful in WvW.
I dunno if that’s true. If you want to keep gettin new people you gotta make room for them too. Not to mention everyone thinks they’re the skilled player/guild who kills twice/three times their number all day long no problem. I would say players’ opinions on who should be in should never count.
I believe one of WvW’s biggest skill tests for organized WvW is working with all sorts of people. I have seen lots of people fail to do this spectacularly. A server player base is going to have all sorts of people, not only is the game not WvW exclusive (no matter how much people wish it were) but the player base changes over time as people move on and new people arrive.
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I thought this was a bronze league thread. kitten.
Shhh, we’re throwing nostalgia at RISE (who is worst at transferring and managed to bandwagon while trying not to bandwagon).
#TrendSetters
but srsly, would be awesome to run with RH again.
Sure, leave the queues behind =)
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I would say MMOs are very community based and you can build bonds to people that outlast any game. So people stick around a while and you can find all sorts of 30+ players that have been playin online 10+ years.
Also the average gamer age is 30 now.
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Crystal desert is mainly a PVE server. Attached is the score taken a few minutes prior this post. Achievement hunters seem to be helping alot with the score.
Once the achievement hunting has tone down after a few weeks since most would have cleared it by then,we’ll take a look at the score for CD again, if its significantly poorer than this than we can safely say its not the achievement hunters fault that the server is losing.
All that means is your server has a lot larger PvE population than the other two servers. Numbers and coverage is a very large factor in W3. 50 players randomly attacking anything on the map actually wins out against 20 players using sound strategy. It’s just the way it is.
These new achievements may help out PvE servers win a match, but they have the opposite effect on higher tier servers. Now the obvious question is: why should ANet cater to higher tier servers at all? Well, possibly because they have a lot more invested into it. By the same token, it would be wrong for W3ers to try and tell the PvE crowd how to best run fractals or dungeons.
We understand ANet is trying to get more players involved in W3, but adding achievements as an enticement is the wrong way to do it.
Higher tier servers don’t have more invested in WvW. All servers are equal and bandwagoners shouldn’t at all be favoured.
Well that was rude. :/
I have been on SoR since beta, so I don’t know how that applies.
In terms of only raw numbers, higher tier servers actually do have more invested in W3. That’s not a pro or con against server populations, that’s just a fact. I’m sure there are plenty or lower tier servers that kick kitten on the field, but that’s not the issue here. The issue is the PvE meta is eclipsing W3 gameplay, which is a problem. Especially since this league just started…frankly it blows my mind that they would do both at the same time.
I think the issue that affects WvW health is that people keep transferrin up tiers and fixin queues and skill lag on overpopulated servers is not only gonna waste resources because people will keep filling it up but also exasperate the issue because you’re not fixin the transfer problem.
Bottom servers need to get their PvE players involved to build up population and incentives for those players to stay in those tiers to help build up organization. Tier 1 servers sayin “we’re what’s important” is the bandwagon attitude that is part the problem.
Lots of rude people on the forums, due to population differences, most of them are in the higher tiers.
1. Skill lag is a game engine problem, not a W3 problem. The same thing happens at huge world events like Teq.
2. “We’re what’s important” is not what we’re really saying. We’re saying “the PvP spirit is what’s important.” Introducing achievements into W3 attracts exactly the wrong kind of players to it. W3 needs players who value real competition and teamwork, not titles and cosmetics. I’m not saying anyone is wrong for wanting the latter, just that it’s not what W3 is about.
3. Since the PvE crowd is larger, by your logic there are more rude people there. :/
1. In 14 months of playtime (90% WvW), I’ve had skill lag maybe 3 times, each time in Stonemist. The only comment I can make on it is somehow it’s only a problem I hear about from people in top tier. Even on a queued map we don’t have guilds big enough to pull everyone together in one giant zerg (bronze league might have a handful of guilds that field 20-30).
2. Lots of people and guilds have the “PvP spirit” here. What gets in our way is paid transfers to tier 1 and the game incentives that move people to higher tiers.
It does sound dreamy that the higher tiers are where people go to be super serious but from the quality of people I see transfer, it’s the quitters, the people who burn out, the ones who want to do somethin easy somewhere where they don’t have to try very hard, the ones who think a change of scenery will help their under performing guild, the ones who wanna win. And after a year of that, it is eventually the ones who just want more people around.
3. Possibly!
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Crystal desert is mainly a PVE server. Attached is the score taken a few minutes prior this post. Achievement hunters seem to be helping alot with the score.
Once the achievement hunting has tone down after a few weeks since most would have cleared it by then,we’ll take a look at the score for CD again, if its significantly poorer than this than we can safely say its not the achievement hunters fault that the server is losing.
All that means is your server has a lot larger PvE population than the other two servers. Numbers and coverage is a very large factor in W3. 50 players randomly attacking anything on the map actually wins out against 20 players using sound strategy. It’s just the way it is.
These new achievements may help out PvE servers win a match, but they have the opposite effect on higher tier servers. Now the obvious question is: why should ANet cater to higher tier servers at all? Well, possibly because they have a lot more invested into it. By the same token, it would be wrong for W3ers to try and tell the PvE crowd how to best run fractals or dungeons.
We understand ANet is trying to get more players involved in W3, but adding achievements as an enticement is the wrong way to do it.
Higher tier servers don’t have more invested in WvW. All servers are equal and bandwagoners shouldn’t at all be favoured.
Well that was rude. :/
I have been on SoR since beta, so I don’t know how that applies.
In terms of only raw numbers, higher tier servers actually do have more invested in W3. That’s not a pro or con against server populations, that’s just a fact. I’m sure there are plenty or lower tier servers that kick kitten on the field, but that’s not the issue here. The issue is the PvE meta is eclipsing W3 gameplay, which is a problem. Especially since this league just started…frankly it blows my mind that they would do both at the same time.
I think the issue that affects WvW health is that people keep transferrin up tiers and fixin queues and skill lag on overpopulated servers is not only gonna waste resources because people will keep filling it up but also exasperate the issue because you’re not fixin the transfer problem.
Bottom servers need to get their PvE players involved to build up population and incentives for those players to stay in those tiers to help build up organization. Tier 1 servers sayin “we’re what’s important” is the bandwagon attitude that is part the problem.
Lots of rude people on the forums, due to population differences, most of them are in the higher tiers.
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Enough that the results of the Collaborative Development is probably going to be queues and skill lag.
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Take the hour it takes to do the jump puzzles. Call it a guild event. Try something new.
Or have an Eternal Battleground night. We try to do that at least once a week just to shake things up (I’m not much on Eternal Battleground myself, only have 4 Stonemist caps since launch).
I can’t believe that for 49 days straight you guys refuse to deviate from your daily routine.
It’s not that we refuse to deviate, it’s that sometimes we can’t afford too. Right now, the competition on our match-up is so intense that even a small group shirking their duties for the night has a substantive negative impact. Last week we had it easier, and could afford to take some time off. But right now, at the start of this league, almost every second counts. It’s crazy, but we love it.
Well, don’t need the achievements right away, still nearly 7 weeks to go =)
I don’t think you get it. Even if we weren’t busy, most of us wouldn’t be doing the JP’s for the achievement points. Most simply don’t care about them. If we were to do the JP’s it would be for a relaxing break from the routine, not to check off a box.
So it during your relaxing break.
I mean, my guild would never relax in a jump puzzle or PvE. That’s why I had to fight them to get through the jump puzzle but we got a mesmer that could do it and it was easy and quick and not even close to the biggest problem WvW has.
Why are you still defending having the achievement in there? Its not the biggest problem wvw has but I can assure you that on the first couple of days at least 50% of the people who queued for wvw got in to do the JP because they are easy achievements.
The achievements shouldn’t be there, they shouldn’t be a part of the season achievements. Its easy yes, I could probably do it in less than an hour, but that is beside the point.
What you describe as a problem is a feature in my tier.
Last reset we had something like double the population we usually have. Lots of fresh players interested in WvW. Not everyone’s there just for the achievement. WvW is fun and all these PvE players are findin that out. That’s what they’ve told me when I talk to them.
That is actually puttin a bandaid on what is one of the biggest problems with WvW (too much transfers to upper tiers.. such as your server).
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Take the hour it takes to do the jump puzzles. Call it a guild event. Try something new.
Or have an Eternal Battleground night. We try to do that at least once a week just to shake things up (I’m not much on Eternal Battleground myself, only have 4 Stonemist caps since launch).
I can’t believe that for 49 days straight you guys refuse to deviate from your daily routine.
It’s not that we refuse to deviate, it’s that sometimes we can’t afford too. Right now, the competition on our match-up is so intense that even a small group shirking their duties for the night has a substantive negative impact. Last week we had it easier, and could afford to take some time off. But right now, at the start of this league, almost every second counts. It’s crazy, but we love it.
Well, don’t need the achievements right away, still nearly 7 weeks to go =)
I don’t think you get it. Even if we weren’t busy, most of us wouldn’t be doing the JP’s for the achievement points. Most simply don’t care about them. If we were to do the JP’s it would be for a relaxing break from the routine, not to check off a box.
So it during your relaxing break.
I mean, my guild would never relax in a jump puzzle or PvE. That’s why I had to fight them to get through the jump puzzle but we got a mesmer that could do it and it was easy and quick and not even close to the biggest problem WvW has.
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Crystal desert is mainly a PVE server. Attached is the score taken a few minutes prior this post. Achievement hunters seem to be helping alot with the score.
Once the achievement hunting has tone down after a few weeks since most would have cleared it by then,we’ll take a look at the score for CD again, if its significantly poorer than this than we can safely say its not the achievement hunters fault that the server is losing.
All that means is your server has a lot larger PvE population than the other two servers. Numbers and coverage is a very large factor in W3. 50 players randomly attacking anything on the map actually wins out against 20 players using sound strategy. It’s just the way it is.
These new achievements may help out PvE servers win a match, but they have the opposite effect on higher tier servers. Now the obvious question is: why should ANet cater to higher tier servers at all? Well, possibly because they have a lot more invested into it. By the same token, it would be wrong for W3ers to try and tell the PvE crowd how to best run fractals or dungeons.
We understand ANet is trying to get more players involved in W3, but adding achievements as an enticement is the wrong way to do it.
Higher tier servers don’t have more invested in WvW. All servers are equal and bandwagoners shouldn’t at all be favoured.
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Last I heard Server Police quit the game and Zombieland disbanded, quitting or joinin other guilds.
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I thought this was a bronze league thread. kitten.
Shhh, we’re throwing nostalgia at RISE (who is worst at transferring and managed to bandwagon while trying not to bandwagon).
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Take the hour it takes to do the jump puzzles. Call it a guild event. Try something new.
Or have an Eternal Battleground night. We try to do that at least once a week just to shake things up (I’m not much on Eternal Battleground myself, only have 4 Stonemist caps since launch).
I can’t believe that for 49 days straight you guys refuse to deviate from your daily routine.
It’s not that we refuse to deviate, it’s that sometimes we can’t afford too. Right now, the competition on our match-up is so intense that even a small group shirking their duties for the night has a substantive negative impact. Last week we had it easier, and could afford to take some time off. But right now, at the start of this league, almost every second counts. It’s crazy, but we love it.
Well, don’t need the achievements right away, still nearly 7 weeks to go =)
The issue is that a myriad of PvE players are clogging the BLs just to do the JPs in this matchup, which for every tier is one of the more important because its between the top 3 servers. I don’t know, I have no issue with people doing the JP, but having it as part of the meta achievement for season rewards does not seem in the best interest of leagues or WvW.
I would say what’s bad for WvW is guilds goin to higher tiers. Ultimately that’s goin to burn out loyal players from each tier and kill servers one by one and create bizarre population imbalances where each WvW update gives huge kittened up queues to people at the top.
I think fresh blood in WvW is good (though I think it’ll still continue that people continue to transfer up tiers, the game hasn’t changed at all on that front). A lot of the PvE players showin up are pretty eager to learn.
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These are called:
World Vs World Season 1 Achievements.
Not:
PvE Super Theme Park Do Nothing Extraordinaire Talk To NPC Achievements.
These achievements are NOT hard to do, especially not in 7 weeks.
Let me say this again.
THEY ARE WORLD VS WORLD ACHIEVEMENTS. NOT PVE ONLY PLAYER ACHIEVEMENTS. If you don’t like WvW, YOU DO NOT HAVE TO DO THESE ACHIEVEMENTS, THEY WERE NOT DESIGNED FOR YOU.
I have 8 finished after a few days.
Stop complaining just because you don’t play WvW.
If you’re not a WvW participant, these achievements are not for you, so stop being so selfish.
IF ANYTHING, THE ACHIEVEMENTS SHOULD BE EVEN LARGER NUMBERS.
Good day sirs.
Hey kitten, let me explain something to you. I do wvw daily, for almost 4 hours so I think I count as a wvw player and a hardcore one at that. But completing the meta achievement, while not hard to do, makes you go out of your way/usual wvw activities in order to do it. It takes 15 out of 19, so I’m going to show you how much out of the way these make people go. I don’t do the JPs, that’s -4, already at 15, I run as a 30 man with my guild and we rarely if ever cap the ruins because it takes time and we should let the roamers cap them, at 14 now. I as many others don’t go into EB or do so very rarely, so the SM flips and the mercs are basically out, at 12 now. So, I’m not getting the meta achievement reward despite my active participation in WvW because it will require me to go out of my way to do so, which I will say again is not what wvw is about. Good day moron.
Take the hour it takes to do the jump puzzles. Call it a guild event. Try something new.
Or have an Eternal Battleground night. We try to do that at least once a week just to shake things up (I’m not much on Eternal Battleground myself, only have 4 Stonemist caps since launch).
I can’t believe that for 49 days straight you guys refuse to deviate from your daily routine.
But how does doing the JP help wvw? This isn’t supposed to be a pve meta achievement, but a WvW one, so having 4 of the achievements be JPs is beyond moronic and gives no leeway on the others to complete. I refuse to do the JP because its not wvw and shouldn’t be taken as an achievement for the wvw season. Yeah, EB night may sound fun if queues weren’t bugged and 5 hours long, try getting 30 people through that to try to cap SM 5 times when you yourself said you have less than 5 since launch.
I think they should add more to some of the achievements (450 kills really?, I’ve gotten 600 in one night), but have a lower requirement for the meta. Also, remove the JPs from the achievements because they do nothing to promote wvw.
The jump puzzles are in the WvW maps. People in WvW go there to kill each other.
Any definition of what WvW is has to account for the fact that the puzzles are there.
Your issues with queues has nothing to do with the viability of achievements. (on which point I would say: someone once suggested to you that you transfer servers for better WvW. Possibly you may consider that again if it is so intolerable.)
No definition of WvW has to account for the JPs being there because doing the JP does nothing to advance your server in the war. Ok, you get two blueprints, but you get those as drops from the vets at camps and stuff which actually helps the war effort, not to mention that you can get them for extremely cheap in the TP. So you’re wasting time doing the JP while your server needs help capping x, defensing x, taking x camp, having some roamers flip the ruins.
Every server has people doin the jump puzzles. If you’re telling me that for 7 weeks you’re always taking responsibility for everything on your map for every hour that you’re on I don’t believe you.
My guild’s one of the most serious on the server but now and then we give the order to ignore PPT and kill people somewhere to avoid burning out. And unlike your server, there probably isn’t anyone on hand to replace us or our commander if he/she isn’t on the field.
Maybe have like 5 people do it at a time? This totally has to be solvable for you =)
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small scale roaming groups look something like 3x warrior 2x guard or 2x warrior 3x guard these daiys. sad but true
My guild’s startin to run a lot of warriors too (can’t convince anyone else to run guardian though). It’s pretty effective. I can’t say I discourage it, warriors aren’t just great at what they do, they can be great at almost everything in the game (DPS, CC, support, resistance to CC, tanking, mobility).
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Take the hour it takes to do the jump puzzles. Call it a guild event. Try something new.
Or have an Eternal Battleground night. We try to do that at least once a week just to shake things up (I’m not much on Eternal Battleground myself, only have 4 Stonemist caps since launch).
I can’t believe that for 49 days straight you guys refuse to deviate from your daily routine.
It’s not that we refuse to deviate, it’s that sometimes we can’t afford too. Right now, the competition on our match-up is so intense that even a small group shirking their duties for the night has a substantive negative impact. Last week we had it easier, and could afford to take some time off. But right now, at the start of this league, almost every second counts. It’s crazy, but we love it.
Well, don’t need the achievements right away, still nearly 7 weeks to go =)
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These are called:
World Vs World Season 1 Achievements.
Not:
PvE Super Theme Park Do Nothing Extraordinaire Talk To NPC Achievements.
These achievements are NOT hard to do, especially not in 7 weeks.
Let me say this again.
THEY ARE WORLD VS WORLD ACHIEVEMENTS. NOT PVE ONLY PLAYER ACHIEVEMENTS. If you don’t like WvW, YOU DO NOT HAVE TO DO THESE ACHIEVEMENTS, THEY WERE NOT DESIGNED FOR YOU.
I have 8 finished after a few days.
Stop complaining just because you don’t play WvW.
If you’re not a WvW participant, these achievements are not for you, so stop being so selfish.
IF ANYTHING, THE ACHIEVEMENTS SHOULD BE EVEN LARGER NUMBERS.
Good day sirs.
Hey kitten, let me explain something to you. I do wvw daily, for almost 4 hours so I think I count as a wvw player and a hardcore one at that. But completing the meta achievement, while not hard to do, makes you go out of your way/usual wvw activities in order to do it. It takes 15 out of 19, so I’m going to show you how much out of the way these make people go. I don’t do the JPs, that’s -4, already at 15, I run as a 30 man with my guild and we rarely if ever cap the ruins because it takes time and we should let the roamers cap them, at 14 now. I as many others don’t go into EB or do so very rarely, so the SM flips and the mercs are basically out, at 12 now. So, I’m not getting the meta achievement reward despite my active participation in WvW because it will require me to go out of my way to do so, which I will say again is not what wvw is about. Good day moron.
Take the hour it takes to do the jump puzzles. Call it a guild event. Try something new.
Or have an Eternal Battleground night. We try to do that at least once a week just to shake things up (I’m not much on Eternal Battleground myself, only have 4 Stonemist caps since launch).
I can’t believe that for 49 days straight you guys refuse to deviate from your daily routine.
But how does doing the JP help wvw? This isn’t supposed to be a pve meta achievement, but a WvW one, so having 4 of the achievements be JPs is beyond moronic and gives no leeway on the others to complete. I refuse to do the JP because its not wvw and shouldn’t be taken as an achievement for the wvw season. Yeah, EB night may sound fun if queues weren’t bugged and 5 hours long, try getting 30 people through that to try to cap SM 5 times when you yourself said you have less than 5 since launch.
I think they should add more to some of the achievements (450 kills really?, I’ve gotten 600 in one night), but have a lower requirement for the meta. Also, remove the JPs from the achievements because they do nothing to promote wvw.
The jump puzzles are in the WvW maps. People in WvW go there to kill each other.
Any definition of what WvW is has to account for the fact that the puzzles are there.
Your issues with queues has nothing to do with the viability of achievements. (on which point I would say: someone once suggested to you that you transfer servers for better WvW. Possibly you may consider that again if it is so intolerable.)
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the same servers that are crying about queues STILL have recruitment threads going so I really don’t get it.
The recruitment threads are for WvWers, not PvE achievement hunters who don’t help out their server, take up spots in the borderlands and won’t stick around after they get their achievements.
Also, based on numbers tonight, none of the T1 servers had queues across all 4 WvW maps. Think about that.
so there’s not really a problem then?
Apparently the problem is the original poster was in queue for 1.5 hours even though other maps were available?
I can’t keep up with this.
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hope your friends keep you company while you’re in queue. meanwhile we can barely queue one map to save our lives.
#nosympathy
Maybe yooooooou should join a different server and stop whining!
See? See how unhelpful that is?
It’s the same advice people gave to people on lower tiers for the past year. “Transfer off your dead server, it’s fun here, promise, coverage, community, cookies”.
The population inequality is bigger than it’s ever been and was growin from leagues. The only thing that stopped recruitment (and maybe transfers) for a lil’ bit is all the reports of terrible, terrible queues. How weird a game system is that?
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You guys should realise by know, that anet doesn’t give a funk about wvw, they focus on spvp and the esport; they try to force players to go and play spvp with every ridiculous patch. there is more and more players in wvw from pve, but the point is, that those players do not care about that gamemode, they are there because of the achievments, easy karma, xp. now it is even worse with the leagues as you can all see. thing is, that anet has the monopol for wvw type of game at the moment as there is no other that could compete. Now, when pve ppl don’t care about queues or skill lags and such, because they will ewentually get in while they are doing pve stuff, but more and more players are actually leaving the game because of the current state and the way devs treats wvw. There will be point, when most of people will get their achievments = less queues, but as soon as other wvw type of game comes out, serious gamers will be gone, so the maps will be empty. they should wake up much earlier, support gvg type of gameplay and come on… spvp-esport is a joke…
Exposing WvW to a wider audience isn’t going to kill it.
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Hule, it’s like you’re determined to say the queues are from what you like to call “stacking”. One has nothing to do with the other. Queues were horrendous because of the LS WvW update.
That’s it, case closed.
And yeah that I can blame on Anet’s kitten poor planning for season schedule.
I have great sympathy for SoS 2 hr queue, I myself got in promptly on Fri after reset but wasn’t able to stay in the game more than 40 mins (queued the whole time, but no gettin in to WvW) before I DC’d, relog, DC again 10 mins later, and lagged like heck even when I was in PvE.
So with long queues, and disconnecting even if I wasn’t in WvW, it wasn’t worth it for me to play much this weekend. That’s a shame because I wanted to support my team on this Inaugural Season….but oh well, maybe next week I’ll be able to have fun with SoS & Mag.
/cheers
Queues aren’t from stacking is my favourite argument.
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@ Hastur
I don’t understand why you play on a tier 1 server by necessity when that is where people yell at you for disrupting karma trains.
5-10 people guild can be ninjas, special forces and make a difference in the low tiers. Where you make noise and how much people you draw to lift pressure off somewehre makes a big difference.
My guild runs 5-10 (mostly 5) and gets lots of love from our server and sometimes from other servers we fight.
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Please for the love of GOD come to Anvil Rock and help us. Zero queues on all of the maps and we will love the crap out of you. Most of us are incredibly friendly and WAR/MERC guilds are actively looking for anyone who enjoys wvw and wants an active community in ts.
Also, I am incredibly determined to not come in last place. I will stay up for the entire season flipping crap if that’s what it takes to beat DR.
Anvil Rock are cool guys. Don’t burn yourself out though. It don’t matter what rank you are just that you can find fun.
What do you or GoM know about fun? PFT!!!!
Mister Honeybuns and I are cheering for ET and DR to pull themselves up.
GoM… please tank, crash and burn.
Your .gifs have no power here.
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If you can’t finish these achievements, possibly with the exception of the SM cap depending on your server, then it’s not a game or metric issue its a" You clearly do not have time to play this game issue." I am finished with these achievements and it was about 20 hours of gameplay, much of that was not with huge groups just 10 of us messing around having a good time. 20/7= 3 hours per week.
You probably need to command on defence more =P
I can’t say I’m havin trouble with the achievements either but I don’t have them done yet.
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Try playing in a T1 server with a PPT guild. You’ll be defending your keeps and towers to your heart’s content.
It’s heartening to know that even in times like these, every thread is still a tier 1 recruitment thread.
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Depends on the buff, really.
I like the guild one, it lets you claim some home territory and show your pride.
The WXP ones are too much grind (I got them but.. now I’m actively avoiding playing alts).
Sigil buffs I would be happy if they removed. I got them on multiple weapons it’s just an annoying mechanic. It like doesn’t add fun, doesn’t make fights interesting since it’s passive (like say the chill one does or energy), and very annoying to have to keep reopening my inventory for this.
I like that bloodlust is smaller than before.
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Okay, that seems fair. Because it’s as easy as it sounds right? Let’s just move to another server!
But wait… Once your guild moves there, they will be facing bad guilds, unorganised pug blobs of 50 guys max which is equal to boring raids.
For guilds like Scnd there’s not much to be found in lower tiers, because there’s no competition to find there.
However in higher tiers, there is a huge amount of enemies to face. Fighting organised pug blobs of 60-80 man is fun to fight, IF you have no lag.
Now this is a pretty big problem.
So basicly to sum it up, ’’hardcore’’ guilds in WvW get bored fast because:
- In lower tiers it’s boring because of no competition
- In higher tiers there’s competition, that gets destroyed by insane lag
Blob less. Work with the community. Show server loyalty.
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Please for the love of GOD come to Anvil Rock and help us. Zero queues on all of the maps and we will love the crap out of you. Most of us are incredibly friendly and WAR/MERC guilds are actively looking for anyone who enjoys wvw and wants an active community in ts.
Also, I am incredibly determined to not come in last place. I will stay up for the entire season flipping crap if that’s what it takes to beat DR.
Anvil Rock are cool guys. Don’t burn yourself out though. It don’t matter what rank you are just that you can find fun.
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Taquito has been streaming all of reset so far and is continuing to do so now! http://www.twitch.tv/teambattleaxe
If you’re interested in what Gate of Madness reset is like, there it is!
chases four people with thirteen people
“They be scurred.”
“WHOA WHOA RUN RUN RUN!”I’m not gonna lie, sometimes we’re not kind and sometimes we’re not fair and sometimes when outnumber the enemy we act like bullies, heh.
I don’t think you will find much of our posts and none of mine complainin about numbers.
Actually, hahaha, I found what you were talkin about. That was pretty hilarious.
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They should really just randomly reassign half the players in the gold league to bronze servers and permanently lock all transfers.
magically, all latency and queue issues disappear overnight!
I’d love to see this.
What would your response be when everyone quits and your server is still a ghost town?
Probably that tier 1 is full of quitters.
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Seeing as how even lower tier servers are experiencing the same problems, it seems to not be a T1 issue, but a game issue.
The achievements have brought in more people than the game can handle. Skill lag is unbelievable. A symbol of swiftness casted on the opposite side of a non-queued BG took 4 casts. huh?!??!?!?!?!?!?!?!?!?!?!? How can you play like that?
I would suggest holding off/suspending them till the first round of leagues are over or the first of the year.
Well, I know my tier has no problems. I honestly haven’t heard much problems from even tier 2 either. Honestly, it does seem like almost all the posters complaining (like you) are tier 1.
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If you don’t like WvW on your server (or can’t play on it), maybe try another server. That’s been the advice since launch.
Who wants to pvdoor? The reason why many flock to T1 is for the 24/7 coverage. Others have tried and when they came back to T1 they said it was fun until everyone went to bed and they spent the rest of the evening beating on doors.
Or when they went to bed there was no coverage so everything they fought for was flipped thus diminishing their effort.
Oh, I see. It’s okay to suggest to transfer to tier 1. It’s not okay to suggest to transfer from tier 1.
You say “coverage”, all I hear are “queues” and “skill lag”.
Edit: We queued 2 maps at reset as the 3rd lowest ranked server. It’s not empty as you suggest here. Since we didn’t even have a league to tank to below us I’d say this whole reset was in fact a morale booster.
Maybe ArenaNet is showing us we got the people for 24 servers of WvW. I dunno how much it’ll stay but goin around tellin people servers are empty are the reason you can’t play at all in WvW.
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But is it so frustrating that you want to transfer?
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If you don’t like WvW on your server (or can’t play on it), maybe try another server. That’s been the advice since launch.
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Communities that have fought together side by side for almost a frigging year. Thrown away into the garbage.
Get over it, be lucky you had a community for that long, most servers have been shuffled and guild hopped all over and stomped down by ‘strong communities’ like your server, your guild(s) should have seen this coming and moved on with your life and started working on a new community in the silver or bronze league where there is very little queue drama, don’t get so attached, hopefully now the servers can stop shuffling so much and form communities and try to move up in their league.
Should have xferred away and let go, things changed with this league, your guild could be somewhere else making a difference for a weaker community and playing together all the time.
Couldn’t have said it better.
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Taquito has been streaming all of reset so far and is continuing to do so now! http://www.twitch.tv/teambattleaxe
If you’re interested in what Gate of Madness reset is like, there it is!
chases four people with thirteen people
“They be scurred.”
“WHOA WHOA RUN RUN RUN!”
I’m not gonna lie, sometimes we’re not kind and sometimes we’re not fair and sometimes when outnumber the enemy we act like bullies, heh.
I don’t think you will find much of our posts and none of mine complainin about numbers.
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