Guild Wars 2

We’ll see how long it lasts. A lot of it are PvE folk who aren’t well experienced. We’re not being pressured much on our borderland (ET and NSP karma trains would regularly come and flip it over the last 2 weeks). As well, experienced commanders didn’t magically appear with the fair weather folk either. So I don’t wanna oversell our performance, heh.

I like jump puzzles and I don’t have queues.

Mariticide.1970:

SniffyCube.6107:

Some interesting fights out there tonight in GoM bl and AR bl.

It’s been a while since I’ve been in tier 8… really opened my eyes to how much fun it is compared to the higher tiers

Of course it’s fun for you, it’s a bloody rout. GoM certainly has the numbers this match.

I was pretty blown away by our turn out at reset. It was maybe twice what we’ve had lately.

Nyxion.9142:

Haralin.1473:

T1 never get it cause of queues of 3 hours :/

Anet is great in not see the consequenses.

And no i do not want transfer to another server cause i am on SFR since 1 year and wont give up all friend or miss some player.

Piken here. T1 is not a problem, queues are broken and they have to be fixed, but anet doesn’t give a kitten

Queues aren’t an issue for most servers. I don’t want ArenaNet devotin resources on things that only matter to a minority of the servers.

I’d say

Pros
-PvE players tryin WvW without skill lag or queues

Cons
-People bandwagoning up tiers
-Winner is probably decided Monday (if not already)

Disagree, you should transfer.

Upham.6137:

style.6173:

Seriously, stop whining. Go to a lower tier server. Problem solved.

So all the organized guilds that’s been playing in that server for a year should transfer to a lower tier server, till they start doing good, get full of bandwaggoners/AP’s farmers, and then transfer again. Sounds reasonable.

Stop whining. You think all the guilds leavin the lower leagues want to? kitten, man. You’re the dumb kittens that buy guilds. That’s your server. The one that thinks every thread is a recruitment thread and the one that throws money at any guild of at least mid size.

Don’t play the victim or how you’re super loyal on the game’s biggest bandwagon/revolving door.

Organized guilds in the low tiers are fallin apart ’cause ArenaNet thinks throwin gold and maps at idiots in queue is how the game is how the game should be run and “why should I have to transfer?” is all you can come up with?

You wanna be some place where your valour shows and what you do matters and not stand in queue? Get to a low tier. Otherwise enjoy your community.

Tell your server to stop buying guilds. Hell, maybe get them to start selling guilds.

Or transfer off.

All of these things are solutions to over stacking your server.

A lil’ surprised by our numbers too. Guild of Madness was out on Devona’s Rest borderland and was fun fighting with them! =)

Taquito has been streaming all of reset so far and is continuing to do so now! http://www.twitch.tv/teambattleaxe

If you’re interested in what Gate of Madness reset is like, there it is!

Solstice.1097:

Schedule by week
1
KN/HoD/FC
DH/SF/ET
DR/GoM/AR
2
KN/SF/AR
FC/GoM/DH
HoD/ET/DR
3
KN/ET/GoM
HoD/DH/AR
FC/SF/DR
4
FC/ET/AR
HoD/SF/DR
KN/DH/GoM
5
ET/GoM/AR
KN/FC/DH
HoD/SF/DR
6
KN/ET/GoM
HoD/FC/SF
DH/DR/AR
7
KN/HoD/FC
DH/SF/ET
DR/GoM/AR

We don’t fight Henge of Denravi, what?

snicker at mod mess up

Come on guys =) You named these servers!

Well, looks like week one will be the fun one. Most balanced match ups? People in fresh for their achievements?

Ironvos.9014:

Galandil.9641:

Ironvos.9014:

What is this dargonite you speak of ?
Only needed for ascended weapons?
Good thing those don’t mean a thing is wvw

I think you don’t have a clear idea of the difference.

Apart from stats differences (which are not very high between exotics and ascended), the most important part is/will be the difference in weapon damage/armor rating of every single piece.

Ascended weapons -> +5% weapon damage compared to Exotic weapons (for example, a gs goes from 995-1100 to 1045-1155, +5% dmg, or an sb goes from 905-1000 to 950-1050, again +5%).

Same goes (if you go check the links in game) for the new ascended armors: +5% to armor rating for every single piece.

This means that a full exo geared character will have a “differential” of about 7-8% to a full ascended geared one. And 8% is a HUGE systemic difference.

And people who love only to do WvW should be able to get the same ascended “rewards” as PvE ones, if they play roughly the same overall time.

That 8% isn’t going to help that pve farmer win anything in wvw against wvw veterans who are in exotics.
Even in wvw with the old bloodlust, that +150 stat points wasn’t going to make you a better player.

Let’s say I’m a veteran, for argument’s sake. I have a hypothetical guardian I’ve spent hundreds of hours on (it’s my 2nd character, don’t judge me) with mostly ascended gear where possible and the guard buffs.

Now I wanna make a warrior. Bein of short money, I barely put together exotic gear and now have to learn my class playing against people who have +2000 hp over me, +120 condition damage, +120 power, and +8% to all their stats.

Well, that’s fantastic. Who thought that was a good idea?

You don’t have to do it to get the meta achievement.

I don’t feel forced to blob up and storm Stonemist ‘cause I don’t have to do it.

Ironvos.9014:

What is this dargonite you speak of ?
Only needed for ascended weapons?
Good thing those don’t mean a thing is wvw

Probably need it for ascended armour too.

TeamBattleAxe.3901:

I’m just glad that they made the decision to push ahead with leagues in their current form despite population imbalances because CLEARLY there are no better alternatives or easy fixes.

To be fair, I think they’d prefer to do things as simple as possible season 1. I’d like to see your idea for season 2. Definitely another set of pre-season transfers would hurt a lot of server communities further (how many people have transferred because their server is tanking/not tanking? Screwed if you do, screwed if you don’t).

DevonCarver.5370:

Niim.9260:

First I generally like this idea. I think it can solve a lot of issues unrelated to ques and I look forward to seeing how it is implemented.

That said, this solution is really about helping those that have stacked to T1 at the expense of everyone else. This will have a negative impact on servers already struggling population wise and it will have a cascading effect on unbalanced match-ups, which is really most match-ups.

My question, for the FAQ, is how do you predict the new map will effect unbalanced match-ups? I am not asking you to solve the problem here, but I want to know that they are known issues.

The first point is that, regardless of the number of worlds that see queues, there are still tens of thousands of people in queues on a daily basis. As we launch in new territories, we are currently in Beta in China, we want to make sure that doesn’t happen to anyone.

The second, and larger point, is that this map is not intended to solve the unbalanced servers issues. This is a first step towards a few things.
1) We are creating a place that we can test significant changes to WvW in a near to live environment. This will help us make major changes to the meta, scoring, etc. while being reasonably confident in the results of those changes.
2) Some of the things we are building into this map are the first step towards eventually making headway on the server imbalance issues. We have some ideas that we are going to implement, but the first step is eliminating the queue. We’ve seen, regularly, that when we make a major change to WvW, people flood the game type and get stuck in queues. This will allow them to at least experience some of WvW when those changes occur.

I hope that explains it.

2) The problem with server population is that people transfer up. They’ve done so for 14+ months now. They’ll continue to transfer up even if you bring them into the low tiers. There’s barely any guilds right now to have a large community that a MMO should have in the low tiers.

Any PvE guild that wants WvW just needs to ask for gold from tier 1. They can then recruit in the low tiers to get gold for transfer for PUGs as well. Mass recruitment for transferring to higher tiers of pugs and other guilds is one of the last hilarious acts of a big low tier guild being bought by a high tier server.

Like, it’s great you plan to have PvE folk show up on my server. Are these people gonna know what to do in WvW? Nope. Are they gonna know people that know what to do? Nope. Is anyone gonna be on to help them? Nope. There’s just not enough WvW guilds or commanders to be around. But there are enough tier 1 recruiters that I’ve never met a low tier guild over 100 people that hasn’t had an offer given to them.

The server imbalance issue isn’t that there is an imbalance. It’s that the imbalance grows bigger, to the point that people show up in WvW and the maps are dead. They can’t find fights. I don’t care about people who can’t WvW because they’re in queue. I can’t WvW because the borderlands are empty, save for some PvD karma trains that leave a map as soon as they meet resistance for a different empty.

I think it’s ridiculous you’re making a map for people who don’t have an empty one. There’s lots of empty WvW maps!

Fine, if you’re making it so China or whatever has a smooth launch but, like leagues, it’s only gonna make a problem we have here in North America (I don’t comment on Europe where I’ve never played) worse!

You think WvW done right would be 5v5 death match with dedicated healers?

Not sure I’m gonna take your side on this one.

Solstice.1097:

they are going to launch in china and their guilds will be so massive that one guild alone will be able to queue all 4 maps. that’s why they need this area.

I’m very happy for China tier 1.

5 hour queues on Gate of Madness at launch turn out had nothing to do with the reality a year later either though.

Gab Superstar.4059:

Vol.5241:

Just because it’s designed to be most helpful in combatting queues doesn’t mean it’s only going to be available when queues are there.

Seriously, ask yourself why they would implement a map that would only be usable during prime time and on reset night?

You seriously don’t understand do you?

What do you think having 5-10 people spread out over 4 maps feel like? Do you think spreading them out over 5 maps is better?

This.

There’s lots of empty WvW maps that the people in queue can go to.

PvE players aren’t going to fix it either. When your server is down to a handful of roaming guilds, PvE people showin up in WvW aren’t goin to be welcomed by an organized community and ready commanders. There are too few commanders, too few guilds.

PvE guilds that want WvW will transfer for cheap to tier 1. They’re not going to stick around and build community while training themselves for WvW from scratch about for a server name they’ve never cared about. They can find loads of, instead of the remaining few, talented commanders and guilds in tier 1.

Tier 8 is on its way from small fights to empty desert.

It’s very simple. It’s dying because the system is sick (people transfer up). Leagues only made it sicker. A new map could bring out new people or it could push the current people away, arguments could be made either way. What a new map won’t do is keep the system from being sick.

I honestly feel like ArenaNet isn’t taking this seriously.

TeamBattleAxe.3901:

styx.7294:

TeamBattleAxe.3901:

Flerch.4817:

Dear Taquito,
I have downloaded Smite. Please teach me the ways of the gods, much as you have taught me the ways of the thief.

Thank you,
Timada
XOXO

As you have yet to fully master playing thief without using stealth, I suggest you try out Loki. He can go invisible, backstab, and even has a teleport to pick people off or escape. Then you can spam [VEL] after killing someone because that is Smite’s version of /laugh.

I mainly play carries and tanks (usually Apollo because pew-pew and Ymir because he’s kitten Ymir). I can make a new lowbie account this weekend if you want to party up, that way you won’t have to go up against a team full of level 30’s while you’re still learning.

Also, gosh aren’t you so excited about WvW leagues starting?

Hey! Get back in WvW! Or there will be frowning!

ArenaNet has even made us a new map so we’ll no longer have to wait in queue! Instead of waiting in queue all day we can hang out there and give them feedback with other Gate of Madness WvW guilds! So lots to do! No more Smite!

Awesome! Now we can get our WvW achievements done without having to do any of that pesky PvP stuff!

Did you know that the last couple of times I logged into WvW, people there TRIED TO KILL ME? I swear, these WvW folks are all a bunch of savages and I bet hardly any of them even have full ascended gear. Come, let us buy new backpack skins from the gem store and laugh at these peasants as we discuss Tequatl strategies!

I read the FAQ (https://forum-en.gw2archive.eu/forum/wuv/wuv/Edge-of-the-Mists-FAQ) and learned so much! Did you know that thousands of people queue every day? They can’t go to WvW and find fights like we can!

“The goal of this map is to provide a place for the thousands of people who queue daily to be able to experience the WvW experience rather than being left out. "

Hear that? People in tier 1 are being left out! This is sooo sad!

Thankfully ArenaNet is focusing on this super important problem and fixing it! I’m gonna go buy gems right now to support the thousands of people who have to sit in queue every day!

table flip

Edit: I make fun but it really is too bad there are no empty WvW maps anywhere on any server for the thousands of people in queue to go. We should have seen this coming.

TeamBattleAxe.3901:

Flerch.4817:

Dear Taquito,
I have downloaded Smite. Please teach me the ways of the gods, much as you have taught me the ways of the thief.

Thank you,
Timada
XOXO

As you have yet to fully master playing thief without using stealth, I suggest you try out Loki. He can go invisible, backstab, and even has a teleport to pick people off or escape. Then you can spam [VEL] after killing someone because that is Smite’s version of /laugh.

I mainly play carries and tanks (usually Apollo because pew-pew and Ymir because he’s kitten Ymir). I can make a new lowbie account this weekend if you want to party up, that way you won’t have to go up against a team full of level 30’s while you’re still learning.

Also, gosh aren’t you so excited about WvW leagues starting?

Hey! Get back in WvW! Or there will be frowning!

ArenaNet has even made us a new map so we’ll no longer have to wait in queue! Instead of waiting in queue all day we can hang out there and give them feedback with other Gate of Madness WvW guilds! So lots to do! No more Smite!

Just make it a stun breaker already!

ColinJohanson.2394:

Shiren.9532:

Most servers can’t fill four maps, why do we need a fifth?

I’m excited about new terrain and possibly new objectives or gameplay, but populations are too sparse already, this will make that problem worse.

It’s a good question, and one we talked about a lot. Above all else, our main raises behind adding another map (which can overflow and create multiple copies of itself) include:

• On many more populated servers in NA and EU, there are queues, this would allow people to play the game they want at all times.

• We want to do things in the future, this map included, that will help get more people interested in WvW. We need to make sure we’re not just making them sit in a queue when we do that.

• The game is going to be launched in other parts of the world, and on launch in NA/EU we had queues for WvW on just about every world. In some of the largest gaming parts of the world say, China for example which we’re in beta for right now, we’re seeing massive responses from guilds that make NA/EU guilds look tiny. These guilds all want to play WvW on the same world together, this map will help facilitate a better launch in new regions, as well as the much larger guild alliances you find in the east.

Hope that helps a bit! We know for much smaller worlds this may seem like it’s no big deal, since you never deal with queues anyway, but the gameplay and experience should hopefully be fun (and different) such that it may attract new players to WvW. It also opens up opportunities for us to do other types of experiences in WvW across all worlds that may help bolster smaller worlds populations as well.

If the smaller servers get more people into WvW, those people are just gonna transfer up tiers anyway. The game is just designed that way right now, Colin.

When this thing hits, it’s only gonna make the WvW population inequality worse (just like leagues did). Top servers are gonna have one of their draw backs cleared (WvW queues) while bottom servers are gonna be emptier. Top servers can spare guilds to sit around on a map and give feedback. They have all the people, they have all the voices.

We barely have any WvW guilds or commanders, let alone any that we can spare to test some map. This is gonna stretch us further make it feel more emptier and people are gonna quit or transfer more (that’s why many have left, it feels empty, it’s hard to find fights out side of EB and the karma trains).

I honestly don’t give a care about skill lag and hour queues in the top tiers. Your game put them there and it’s going to keep putting them there no matter how many maps you give them to fill.

Edit: Maybe I am making this all up. I mean, you probably have the numbers on transfers. If the leagues hitting didn’t involve a lot of guilds moving up tiers, aggravating the population inequality further, just tell me “It didn’t make the population inequality worse” and well, I’ll have one less thing to worry about.

Otherwise it’s some rather ridiculous cycle where the problem is people move to tier 1 but since everyone is in tier 1 all the problems people in tier 1 have are the ones that are addressed instead.

I don’t understand. The problem I have in WvW is there are too few people on my server.

“players get stuck waiting in line” is not a thing!

Hm, I count 19 achievements? You need 15. So I guess you can skip the jumping puzzles.

WvW is weird. There’s so many different ways to play it but I mean there aren’t many things you can give achievements for. I’m sure if you’re active for 7 weeks you’ll get it.

I’ve taken Stonemist 4 times in 14 months of WvW but have 4.9k objectives taken. The jump puzzles makes more sense for me than Stonemist does =P

I’d help ya out but I love gold league about as much as I love the Maple Leafs. Any effort would come out as slightly sarcastic =(

Though go Blackgate! Smokee and Chris are my guardian heroes! I have posters of them in front of my bed and I stare lovingly at them as I fall asleep.

The thing about introducing PvE players to WvW there’s nothin to keep them from transferrin off like other people. Especially big PvE guilds that will get their ride paid for by tier 1.

It’s easier in the higher tiers and profitable.

scootshoot.6583:

Blix.8021:

1: Server population imbalances

1. How to get more pve peeps involved in WvW.

I used to think it was server imbalances until I decided to check the login population status earlier this week. On a Tuesday afternoon, 12:00 cst, 19 of 24 North American servers were sitting at “Very High” status. It’s pretty good to have this amount of Players logged on playing during a weekday afternoon, far from primetime when NA is concerned.

In other words, the server population is not as imbalanced as one may think. Now how to get those PvE players to participate in WvW is another question. Anet is sorta on the right track with their recent achievements chest carrot from recent patch.

Last PvE guild we introduced to WvW moved to tier 1.

Again 1. How to move higher tier players to lower tier players. Gettin PvE to show up isn’t the answer.

Boulderbolg.3460:

Have the Bloodlust areas not created a more enjoyable skirmishing environment in the lower tiers???

You talk about 3-8 players as a roaming group.

At reset each week, we have a server wide meeting of WvW guilds. This has been goin on for months, since January and just about any guild that’s interested in workin with other guilds shows up (I mean, we’ve advertised the hell out of it at this point).

After the last bit of transfers, there’s 1 guild that has more than 3-8 people at reset. At prime time, there might be as many as 20 people on the homeland map. Unless the enemy server’s single zerg (think 20-30 people) arrives on the map to karma train/earn PPT, everything is enjoyable skirmish fight, at which point we can’t spare anyone to take the buff.

Basically the buff hasn’t really changed much, I think. Unless you’re totally shut out of a match (being on Blackgate, I have no idea if you ever encounter that). Where you can’t take keeps back, you’re starting breakouts for Cragtop/Sunnyhill, and the enemy has more people roamers in the ruins than you have people total. Then it’s super annoying to have someone have +150 to every one of their stat points.

Vol.5241:

That’s why they have a very cost-prohibitive server transfer fee, especially for the high-population ones.

I totally understand where you’re getting at – I just don’t see any viable solution

If you don’t introduce any sense of tiered rewards for seasons, then what’s the point?
If you don’t introduce a season/tournament, then we have very little to play for and it’ would be the same game as it is in release? At least this provides some excitement

The server transfer fee is a pile of kitten. It has nothing to do with ranking. Why am I on the most expensive server to transfer to but the 2nd lowest rank? Can’t find 20 people on the homeland during prime time. You think the fee is helping anyone?

The most populated servers have the most gold to offer to offset the fee, the biggest kill counts which translates to: more loot bags, more WvW ranks, which give more loot, more achievement points, which give more loot and hey, if you pick the right of the top 3, you get a league reward as well. At some point, transferring to tier 1 is less a cost and more an investment.

At this point, I’m ready to say if bronze league players got a flat out daily gold reward for being homed on their server, it’d just about even things out.

People who are in tier 1 and see no point in playing unless ArenaNet steps in and gives them further rewards are not anything I stop and worry about, honestly.

1. Getting people from higher tiers to lower tiers.

I believe this’ll fix just about half the things wrong with WvW (lag, matchups, shortage of fights, huge zerging) but kill WvW if left to continually worsen.

Until this is addressed, I don’t care about the rest. What good are rewards and achievement points or commander functionality on an empty map?

moutzaheadin.4029:

styx.7294:

moutzaheadin.4029:

Kcrook.3945:

moutzaheadin.4029:

Nausicca.6038:

moutzaheadin.4029:

Well , with all the nonsense going on , ive been just doing my thing. Guild is a mess, server is a mess, who knows whats going to happen.

My friends of GOM , if you wanted to do a sleepover at hills , why not just ask ?

For the people out there who have turned on the Nsp ppt machine. TY it is noticeable.

for those of you out there still fighting, i give you a fun.

OBS song of the day!

Love the song <3
Poor Obs, you definitly need to pve more. 2g35 ! O.O

I’m very happy you like the song I picked. That song was in my head all day after I made the video. Omg….. Still going…..

Timada , I’m sorry pal lol one of these days ill figure out how to edit my chat when I make a video. I’m bad and I’ve only spent about 4 mins total looking at the editing stuff.

Great song!!!!

Condi Mes + Keep Lord is OP Plz nerf both. Thnx.

Haha , no more nerfs plz. I’m tired of changing playstyles.

That keep lord though .. man he looked mad.

Mesmers had biggest buff last patch. One shot falling. Isn’t that enough?!?!?!!!??!?! So greedy =(

I never tried it.. but omg that looked fun.. people using portals to do it over and over on gate zergs hahah. Someone even said there was a guild running around named “its raining mesmers” hahaha

Between that and randomly shuffling match ups last patch, patch time is startin to get a lil’ wild in WvW!

akamon.2769:

:DDD now we’re talking.

the new meta:

I am okay with this.

Andrew Clear.1750:

I bet this is gonna be the most competitive league. Hope you guys will have some fun. I am on SBI, so I will be stuck stomping or being stomped.

Honestly, Stormbluff Isle is half of bronze league.

Nothing stopping you from transferring here, friend!

moutzaheadin.4029:

Kcrook.3945:

moutzaheadin.4029:

Nausicca.6038:

moutzaheadin.4029:

Well , with all the nonsense going on , ive been just doing my thing. Guild is a mess, server is a mess, who knows whats going to happen.

My friends of GOM , if you wanted to do a sleepover at hills , why not just ask ?

For the people out there who have turned on the Nsp ppt machine. TY it is noticeable.

for those of you out there still fighting, i give you a fun.

OBS song of the day!

Love the song <3
Poor Obs, you definitly need to pve more. 2g35 ! O.O

I’m very happy you like the song I picked. That song was in my head all day after I made the video. Omg….. Still going…..

Timada , I’m sorry pal lol one of these days ill figure out how to edit my chat when I make a video. I’m bad and I’ve only spent about 4 mins total looking at the editing stuff.

Great song!!!!

Condi Mes + Keep Lord is OP Plz nerf both. Thnx.

Haha , no more nerfs plz. I’m tired of changing playstyles.

That keep lord though .. man he looked mad.

Mesmers had biggest buff last patch. One shot falling. Isn’t that enough?!?!?!!!??!?! So greedy =(

bump Bronze league is gonna have the least shut out matches and transfers to the bottom servers are only gonna improve the league =) hint hint

Lauranda.1342:

Did I miss something…you are 2nd in bronze currently?

As of this post, they’re projected to be rank 15, the bottom in silver league. Their projected rating is ~10 points above rank 16, the top of bronze league.

Probably the biggest factor is how much the tanking/not tanking drama affects the communities of the servers at the top of the league but I’m not expecting any big guild transfers to this league.

VLK and IoM are, in my opinion, the biggest hittin guilds in the league but I think Henge of Denravi is a lil’ bit bigger. I have to say, I’m completely without a clue as to how Kaineng will do since it’s been a while since I faced them.

At the end of the day, the most important thing is that Gate of Madness is the sexiest server and even if we don’t get the chests, we’re the server everyone buys drinks for at the bar.

That is unless Taquito equips a stealth skill. Then they might as well hand us the prize and start season 2.

Edit: The tanking/not tanking drama is a very odd choice. I mean, I totally vote not tank but you’re gonna lose people either way. And is there gonna be a glorious influx of PvE players to WvW that will upset things? I will believe it when I see it.

Predator.9214:

SpyderArachnid.5619:

When I read that last part:

You have been warned.

It sounds like a threat. It is just unnecessary to have that line.

I get that you want people to curb the insults and such, but maybe instead of being aggressive about it, you should be more professional about it. Sinking to their level isn’t a good way to get your point across.

This. Was gonna say something like this, but this gentleman has beat me to the punch.
Just because you are “thin skinned” and / or cannot take the more harsh comments, posts (with all do respect and with the fact that this is totally fine), does not mean you need to stoop to the same level as some of these comments and basically threaten the whole forum community.
Very annoyed by this last sentence, and this is coming from someone who is always objective while posting / discussing.

Likely it’s to cover the case where they’re gonna ban someone for the week and that person says “I didn’t know, why didn’t you warn me?”.

They made a post, they gave a big red link to the post that won’t go away until you go to the main forum page, and they basically said “This is the warning, we are going to enforce this from now on”.

Banzie.5248:

Count IoJ out basically. CORE, SE, PPK all left(or in process of leaving).

[Mend] Is still here and looking forward to the coming fights!

Lame, CORE was a native guild too, if I recall. Heh, seems like leagues was the single worst thing to happen to server population since end of free transfers.

Boom.6148:

Styx if I didn’t know how dedicated you were to GOM I would try harder to get you to join us.

Haha, I’ve given you guys and Henge of Denravi some words about tanking but it’s only ‘cause I care! Can’t stay mad at you guys! Show ’em what you got! Farm them with breakouts if you have to!

Nerfing good stuff, buffing bad stuff is how it’s supposed to work. Constantly mixes up the metagame, moves people to new builds.

Rooting for you guys!

TeamBattleAxe.3901:

Yam.2891:

message from tacospy:

“Teivospy last video montage, he says gw2 is bad and all of you need to understand actual pvp isnt about builds its about looking cool and what looks cooler than undead male?
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kDbmRr6PsNA#t=0m18s”

Tell Teivo he needs to ditch LoL and come hang out with all the cool kids on Smite.

Stop playing lane pushers!

Easily countered by falling mesmers so balanced.

Devon.9061:

styx.7294:

My secret Henge of Denravi source tells me they’re taking a conveniently timed PvE holiday.

Dude… ITS HALLOWEEN EVENTS! YOU CAN MINE FLIPPIN CANDY CORN!#!$#I@JISDJFIJIJ$#IFJWIEJF@#ORJFI@FJW kitten

Thorson.9218:

Curo.2483:

I don’t get this. Other servers are trying to steal our spot in bronze, and we are the bad guys for taking it back?

Antara.3189:

I also said if NSP plays to its fullest and places in bronze, I have no quarrel with that. As the system placed NSP to where it belongs. Trying to alter numbers because of the fear of getting hammered in silver shouldn’t be endorsed, at all.

^ This is my point. Some of us are tanking so that we DO get to where the system would have us belong. OTHER servers are causing us to go to silver. It is NOT of our doing. If Kaineng, HoD, and NSP had ALL tried this week, NSP would be in bronze. End of story. Do you understand?

Also any huge numbers you see on NSP diminish as soon as we start losing, because of the casual, untrained nature of our playerbase.

We are a LOT closer in strength to the bronze servers than the silver servers.

From what I’ve heard, Kaineng isn’t “tanking”, they’re in free fall like we (AR) were a while back. That leaves NSP and HOD, but it looks like at least a few NSP have decided to stop throwing the match and play to the server’s potential. No clue what HOD is up to…….

My secret Henge of Denravi source tells me they’re taking a conveniently timed PvE holiday.

KrazyFlyinChicken.5936:

Ironically, ‘metabuild’ in a more accurate sense would mean

A build developed using a previous build as a guideline or template… which is exactly the opposite of an insult. It would be like people improving upon a previous build.

Metadata, I think, just can’t be right. Metadata would be like the table of contents to a textbook

Nah, it’s more like if you have a bunch of databases and you store data on how many entries, what type of entries, etc. the databases have. Once worked at a company that had databases that stored info about their metadatabases that stored info about their databases. They called it metametadata.