Guild Wars 2

Righteous.4307:

Frodolaggins.2109:

HoD [MU] The /Beckons and /Laughs are HILARIOUS especially when you push my zerg over 10 times throughout the night and get SMEARED on the floor From SMC to CD bl Bay to open field [MU] is first to start the emote war, and first to suddenly hit the floor………

The only guild worth mentioning on HoD is [Dx] good respectable players there. the rest are meh and MU is huge PvF but when it comes to open field ROFLSMEARACROSSTYRIA shame you cant emote when on the floor

With love, a SPICEY cup of soup!!

Here is the funny thing. You outnumbered the group we had with us 3 to 1. So much so that we literally had the outmanned buff. Pics will be provided by Gornok today. Then, to make matters worse, even with the massive numerical advantage you siege creep us, and take 45 minutes to take bay, when you have lost the rest of the map (except northern towers and Garrison) to NSP. While I do remember you wiping some of the pugs we had with us, the only thing I remember dieing of was the boredom that you can create by never pushing and siege creeping when you have triple our numbers. Finally, after all of that you decide it’s a good idea to come on the forums and specifically call out MU.

Let me consult Zoltar and predict the next few days on the forums for you. He says,

“The future is very clouded for you [KöMÉ]. Given your previous statements, [MU] will call you out for a 15v15 GvG. There are two possible outcomes. Either you accept and become the laughing stock of CD when they wipe the floor with you, or you dodge the GvG and lose all credibility.”

Yikes! [KöMÉ]… Zoltar doesn’t seem too enthusiastic about how this PvF war will turn out for you. Unfortunately for you, he has never been wrong. I guess we can all sit back now and see if you accept or dodge.

You had the outmanned buff? Oh noes. Maybe you can transfer to Henge of Denravi and ask MU for lessons on how to defeat a force that has more numbers than you.

capmasterflash.5690:

Infamous Darkness.3284:

hey Ynot could I get the name from you of a theif in your guild that is a human with a black beard and mustache, and plays really well. I have fought him a few times in the past and would like to dual him more often, if not I understand and sorry for the bother.

Maybe you’re thinking of “Corodox”.

^Lol at styx. That must have taken forever…to get everyone to transfer and in the right gear. gg

When you’re facing death in the face, you want to make sure your last moments are quality moments.

BirdSong.2541:

styx.7294:

dying cough It took a while to get everyone to stand still for the picture.

I actually laughed out loud. 20G is awarded to Gryffindor!
I mean er..

Your face for bringing me humour.

edit: Before anyone pulls the racist card and reports me for the attached pic, I’m irish, get over your life.
(True story I’ve gotten infractions for it before)

Clearly a picture of you wielding the rainbow bridge.

You weren’t kidding about the gold! I’m sure my guildies will put on a nice wake with it. Any Northern Shiverpeaks is welcome to transfer to Gate of Madness for the wake.

Noah.4756:

The description of Merciful Intervention is very ambiguous if you ask me.

“Teleport to the nearest ally with the lowest health and create a healing area around them.”

Does this mean nearest ally, or ally with lowest health? It’s very confusing. If I understand your video it’s nearest ally. This requires the guardian to run to your ally first which makes the teleport quite useless.

Also how many are affected by the healing area and what’s the range on it?

I would hope it would work like this:

Look for the ally with the lowest health in range. If there are multiple allies with the same health, it should go to the nearest one.

But then what does lowest health mean? Should it heal a warrior that has 20k/30k hp or an elementalist has 14.5k/15k hp?

BirdSong.2541:

styx.7294:

BirdSong.2541:

styx.7294:

BirdSong.2541:

styx.7294:

Whoah, Rob, have I ever told you what a great friend you are? We had lots of great times, didn’t we? And.. uhh, on an unrelated note you know I’m goin through a tough time and if you could be a pal and spot me about 1k gold… I promise I’ll pay it back.

:O I took that pic like 2 weeks ago before the update when the mats spiked, I’ve already reinvested most of it I could give you the k but then I’d be broke and wouldnt be able to buy any monocles ;_;

Half of that would be alright. You see… my guardian has cancer.

If you convince 20 other people to make clone Bird Songs and transfer to NSP to we can make a total BS zerg then done deal, public promise. You gotta move fast though, I’m multiplying pretty fast.

Well, if my guardian has to die that’s okay, it is her time and she lived a pretty good life getting wiped in WvW and having all her friends transfer away and then someone kicked her orange tabby cat. Her last wish is really to transfer all of RH to NSP for one last WvW hoorah. Unfortunately, everyone in RH is 1 gold short of the transfer fee and well, there are 500 of us.

dying cough It took a while to get everyone to stand still for the picture.

BirdSong.2541:

styx.7294:

BirdSong.2541:

styx.7294:

Whoah, Rob, have I ever told you what a great friend you are? We had lots of great times, didn’t we? And.. uhh, on an unrelated note you know I’m goin through a tough time and if you could be a pal and spot me about 1k gold… I promise I’ll pay it back.

:O I took that pic like 2 weeks ago before the update when the mats spiked, I’ve already reinvested most of it I could give you the k but then I’d be broke and wouldnt be able to buy any monocles ;_;

Half of that would be alright. You see… my guardian has cancer.

If you convince 20 other people to make clone Bird Songs and transfer to NSP to we can make a total BS zerg then done deal, public promise. You gotta move fast though, I’m multiplying pretty fast.

Well, if my guardian has to die that’s okay, it is her time and she lived a pretty good life getting wiped in WvW and having all her friends transfer away and then someone kicked her orange tabby cat. Her last wish is really to transfer all of RH to NSP for one last WvW hoorah. Unfortunately, everyone in RH is 1 gold short of the transfer fee and well, there are 500 of us.

BirdSong.2541:

styx.7294:

Whoah, Rob, have I ever told you what a great friend you are? We had lots of great times, didn’t we? And.. uhh, on an unrelated note you know I’m goin through a tough time and if you could be a pal and spot me about 1k gold… I promise I’ll pay it back.

:O I took that pic like 2 weeks ago before the update when the mats spiked, I’ve already reinvested most of it I could give you the k but then I’d be broke and wouldnt be able to buy any monocles ;_;

Half of that would be alright. You see… my guardian has cancer.

BirdSong.2541:

Odies.8017:

Let me send you the mounds of gold I’ve made by killing Os, ZoS, and Kome this match up. I do have to say I’m enjoying this more than any Bronze server since they actually fight back.

Go back to the hole you crawled out from.

Error 404: mound of gold not found. pl0x contact your local hateraid provider for more after sales services.

Whoah, Rob, have I ever told you what a great friend you are? We had lots of great times, didn’t we? And.. uhh, on an unrelated note you know I’m goin through a tough time and if you could be a pal and spot me about 1k gold… I promise I’ll pay it back.

Dynnen.6405:

Love how this got derailed. Thought we might actually have an organized place in the forums. lol

Just need to reorganize and maybe start a new thread or edit the original post for better presentation?

It was a good thing you started, would be a shame to let it disappear.

Yes, everyone should immediately stop what they’re doing and transfer up tiers. We’ve been doing it for months and it’s worked so well that we only ought to step it up. Clearly that’s the only sane thing to do.

Nike.9563:

Did somebody mention throwing siege? ETBL DR spawn.
http://imgur.com/gallery/nR8lS/new

It’s not as funny when zerg guilds do it!

Lekai.1429:

styx.7294:

TeamBattleAxe.3901:

styx.7294:

Avatar of Belle.9623:

I get so much amusement from all the /laugh and jump emotes people do on my corpse. They’re so proud when they take 3-10 people and run down a necro. It’s so cute!

Not gonna lie, totally the sort of thing my guild does. Some people just have no respect! And I’m trapped with them =( Send help.

Wasn’t me this time!
I only jump and sit on ally corpses.

I always think back to roaming with Pathfinder and every time we’d 2v1 some under leveled he’d be like:

I’M SO GONNA JUMP ON HIS CORPSE! jump YEAH jump YEAH jump YEAH jump YEAH jump HOW YOU LIKE THAT?!

There’s other guys that do it too but Pathfinder totally has the most enthusiasm for it. Raven Hold is a classy guild.

I vote we just jump and throw siege on anything and everything! Kill a player? Leave some siege and jump on em, kill a NPC? Leave some siege and jump on em, kill a dolyak? Leave some siege and jump on em, take a tower leave some siege and jump on em… Yeah you get the point. Now no one can be upset when they see people do this, it’ll just be the new “norm” problem solved!

It might be simpler to just not assign any meaning to actions that have no bearing on anything.

akamon.2769:

there is a huge difference in Warrior 4 and Guard 5 hammer skills from my perspective though. warrior 4 can knock you back ONCE. while Guardian 5, the ring is a warding and if you have someone who hasn’t encountered a RoW before, they can be knocked down 3, 4 times. so perhaps it is compensation for that. you can trap people, you can hold a choke, it’s a combo field… while the warrior 4 cannot do that.

many Guards have been asking for hammer 5 to be either instant cast, or to be able to use it while moving. though, it’s more or less, fine as is right now. though, if you put it taht way, i guess changing this could also be a “QoL change” as well for the Guard.

Staff 4 is also on the move and that was an amazing change when they did that.

Rayya.2591:

lordkrall.7241:

Jaxs.5830:

First of all, as many people have pointed out, most of the living stories can be completed in 1-2 days, not 3-4 weeks. So stop comparing season one to a living world story, they require different levels of effort and as such the rewards should be considerably different.

Funny, I saw people with the title for the meta just a day or two after start of season 1.
I suppose those people somehow managed to hack the game and give themselves that title then, since it was apparently not possible to complete it faster than 3-4 weeks.

actualy:
Wvwvw kills completed -45 minutes – sm capture -2 hours – 10 keeps 4 hours latter , Jp’s were 15 minutes. The long ones were ruin capture and sentry capture on wvwvw wich took few hours. Many players finished achivements in 3’rd day

If you’re in a low population tier during off-hours and do things like maintain the borderland, things go a lot slower.

There’s a lot of different (and equally correct) ways to play WvW.

TeamBattleAxe.3901:

styx.7294:

Avatar of Belle.9623:

I get so much amusement from all the /laugh and jump emotes people do on my corpse. They’re so proud when they take 3-10 people and run down a necro. It’s so cute!

Not gonna lie, totally the sort of thing my guild does. Some people just have no respect! And I’m trapped with them =( Send help.

Wasn’t me this time!
I only jump and sit on ally corpses.

I always think back to roaming with Pathfinder and every time we’d 2v1 some under leveled he’d be like:

I’M SO GONNA JUMP ON HIS CORPSE! jump YEAH jump YEAH jump YEAH jump YEAH jump HOW YOU LIKE THAT?!

There’s other guys that do it too but Pathfinder totally has the most enthusiasm for it. Raven Hold is a classy guild.

Avatar of Belle.9623:

What if I enjoy the bickering of old couples and want to see more?

Put on some soaps.

Avatar of Belle.9623:

I get so much amusement from all the /laugh and jump emotes people do on my corpse. They’re so proud when they take 3-10 people and run down a necro. It’s so cute!

Not gonna lie, totally the sort of thing my guild does. Some people just have no respect! And I’m trapped with them =( Send help.

Joe.4178:

styx.7294:

Joe.4178:

BobTurkey.8915:

Nice fight the 2nd one. Mesmer doing the video is ugly as sin, but nice work.

Tyvm for the feedback, my ugly mesmer looks like that so people will remember the burst I gave them after they blow all their cd’s and panic

capmasterflash.5690:

Joe.4178:

Tyvm Henge of Denravi [SWAT] for the awesome outnumbered fights. You guys were good and downed me couple of times and kept good pressure on me the fight. Heres the vid http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QVgGyZMLK_Y to see what happened.

Nice video, I’m impressed. If I see you guys I’ll be sure to focus the mesmer and watch out for those churning earths lol.

Duels have been lacking this week guys! Rarely anyone in OS. If anyone wants to duel, message me.

Tyvm for the feedback, I’ll watch out for you pick me off in the field! xD

Mind if I ask what kinda build Sarsbear runs nowadays?

@XOXO video – geez, 7 XOXO? When did you guys turn into a zerg guild?

The typical 0 0 10 30 30 build or 0 10 0 30 30 build full clerics. If I’m correct, he posted his build in his old video that I subscribed to long ago or check out Bobwhall’s channel that I also subscribed to. It has all the info on his support guardian build/traits/gear/trinkets/weapons/etc.

Ah, okay. Was wonderin if he changed anythin up. I’m findin 0/0/10/30/30 to be kinda same old same old.

Joe.4178:

BobTurkey.8915:

Nice fight the 2nd one. Mesmer doing the video is ugly as sin, but nice work.

Tyvm for the feedback, my ugly mesmer looks like that so people will remember the burst I gave them after they blow all their cd’s and panic

capmasterflash.5690:

Joe.4178:

Tyvm Henge of Denravi [SWAT] for the awesome outnumbered fights. You guys were good and downed me couple of times and kept good pressure on me the fight. Heres the vid http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QVgGyZMLK_Y to see what happened.

Nice video, I’m impressed. If I see you guys I’ll be sure to focus the mesmer and watch out for those churning earths lol.

Duels have been lacking this week guys! Rarely anyone in OS. If anyone wants to duel, message me.

Tyvm for the feedback, I’ll watch out for you pick me off in the field! xD

Mind if I ask what kinda build Sarsbear runs nowadays?

@XOXO video – geez, 7 XOXO? When did you guys turn into a zerg guild?

Skosh.1483:

ASH i wish you would really put your money where your month is talk alot but wont accept a gvg against anyone on et. Why is that? Owait in gvgs you cant throw open field siege thats right

He told you why:

titanlectro.5029:

I’ll happily go on record and say that IoM/Di is significantly more hardcore than ASH, and would have no trouble beating ASH in a GvG.

This situation has become so ridiculous that Skosh is taunting someone about how bad they are while that person is like “Yep, we’re bad and that’s okay”.

This conversation really has been:

DI: GvG us so we can see who will win!
ASH: You will win.
DI: GvG us so we can see who will win!
ASH: You will win.
DI: GvG us so we can see who will win!
ASH: You will win.
DI: GvG us so we can see who will win!
ASH: You will win.
DI: GvG us so we can see who will win!
ASH: You will win.
DI: GvG us so we can see who will win!
ASH: You will win.
DI: GvG us so we can see who will win!

Edit: I dunno why any of the people here think they have anything to prove. ASH is an old guild and they know who they are, they got nothin to prove. DI knows how well they do so I dunno why they think they gotta show somethin with a GvG. GvGs shouldn’t be about vendettas or personal attacks or kitten measuring contests. They should be about the pursuit of excellence and competition and that’s not gonna happen with a guild that doesn’t care about GvG or as a whole isn’t dedicated to WvW either.

Righteous.4307:

Just waiting for a post like this…

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4FZcI8EVW-c

You’re taking the presence of a chest that wasn’t there before pretty hard.

Polyamorous Firefly.4071:

Same reason they feel the need to post an image of them being ahead of a crippled DR and a GoM that isn’t even fighting.

Agreed, not sure why you’re harpin on them. Recruitment threads are the place to be positive about a server.

Chris Whiteside.6102:

TheDaiBish.9735:

Felbryn.5462:

Chris Whiteside.6102:

The two main areas for discussion will be Horizontal and Vertical progression, however please understand that the commentary and ideation we are really looking for regarding vertical is around its accessibility in game.

I’m not sure I understand this bit; could you clarify?

Basically:

• How easy it is to attain the Ascended gear?
• Is the balance of acquisition of Ascended out of whack between different game-modes (i.e. Easier in PvE than WvW, easier in the open world than it’s intended game mode [Fractals])?

Couldn’t have said it better myself DaiBish. Thanks.

Chris

It’s pretty hard to acquire ascended gear. Weapons and armour take a long time. WvW earns very lil’ gold since food/upgrades/repairs/siege are a big gold sink (it’s weird ‘cause some people just zerg around, don’t buy food, never put down siege or upgrade things and that sorta things costs a lot). Basically playing your best (gah! those consumable prices) kills your gold income which is very frustrating. The game has lots of builds and has balance patches which then warrant buying multiple armour sets/weapons for even the same build – I’ve basically run the same build for nearly a year but have 3 armour sets to go with it as well as somethin like a dozen weapons. If it was some weeks between gettin an ascended weapon, I wouldn’t so much mind but raising a new crafting skill is incredibly expensive as well and it’s taking several months for me to get even a 2nd ascended weapon.

The whole experience of ascended junk has been very frustrating for me. I want to be able to get my gear and play but with how expensive things have gotten, after the first weapon I feel like I’ve basically been out of that entire progression. Very few people in my guild have more than one ascended weapon and it’s been months now.

Who are these people? It must be hard for them being so good that they have to wonder about how to fence off everyone else, all the while struggling that those poor noobs will suffer without basking in the pros’ light.

New change is pretty garbage. You had perma swiftness before. The only problem was if you had perma swiftness from somethin else already the skill wasn’t credit (but then you didn’t need it ’cause other people are givin you warhorns or whatever).

Now you don’t have perma swiftness in a lot of common situations (at least that I encounter) without having gained any situations where you’d get perma swiftness without having it before.

Stopped running staff for now.

eleshazar.6902:

styx.7294:

eleshazar.6902:

You know how we can tell that devs are ignoring us? This thread hasn’t been closed (or received a dev comment) even after several call-outs against the development team, and particular developers as well. (Heck many people have called a certain developer a liar….)

In other words, the devs don’t bother ever looking in the guardian forum because none of them play guards…

At this point you’re just making up things to be angry about.

Maybe some reminds to help keep perspective? Our class is doing pretty well relative to most. Other than swiftness from one skill, I’d say the patch didn’t make us any worse off. We’re still valuable in just about every game mode (though at least in WvW there isn’t a lot of builds to choose from).

And you are just finding reasons to be complacent. If you paid attention to the patch preview discussion Jon Peters went back and actually discussed with EVERY profession except for guardians. And by discussion I mean actually posting more than once, and in several cases posting many times and making changes. That to me is something worth being a little miffed about.

You are correct that overall as a class we are average…. with the one caveat that we have to run one build. We have one viable build as a guardian, and that is tanky support. We sit there swinging away dealing little damage meanwhile buffing everyone else and healing ourselves as we do it. We are forced to trait high into vit/tough lines because we have such a low health pool that Virtue of Resolves passive ~36 health per second is supposed to make up for.

If you want to run a damage based guardian by actually traiting into those lines, you will be one of the worst players on the map. Every time. It is sad that people laugh when you say you are a zerker guardian, or say you are a power guardian, or condi guardian, because they realize you aren’t a very good player at that point. How do they know that? Because people that have played this game know that those aren’t viable builds for a guard. That’s sad in my opinion. I actually saw a group kick someone the other day when they joined the group and said he was switching to his zerker guard. That is unacceptable in my opinion, not just from a behavioral stand point, but because Anet has allowed that to be an actual measure of whether or not you can play your class.

I think there is plenty to be angry about when you see stuff like that happen in game.

That sort of reasoned argument I can get behind, rather than “devs don’t bother ever looking in the guardian forum because none of them play guards”. Though I don’t know if any of the patch preview feedback threads got anything done. Most posts I saw in the other class forums kinda felt the same way we did.

Righteous.4307:

styx.7294:

NargofWoV.4267:

Adian.8756:

Aeonblade.8709:

KrisHQ.4719:

NargofWoV.4267:

Finally, since “rewards” are all over this game, it begs the question, with your attitude why are you playing a reward based game? Go play chess.

wut

You said you didn’t need rewards, victory was reward enough. For the rest of us, that’s just plainly not true. MMORPG’s as a genre depend on rewards for time invested.

So as the poster said, Chess or another PvP game with no rewards would be a better fit for you

You want rewards and shiny pixels because you’ve been conditioned to wanting it. What kind of ‘rewards’ did Red Alert, Warcraft, Frogger, The Lost Vikings, Donkey Kong, Counter-Strike, Half-Life, Mario 64 etc etc. give you?

I have zero clue, I have never played any of those games, yet I have played almost every single MMO since the dawn of MMO’s from Diablo to UO to Everquest to DaoC to WoW to Warhammer to Aion, every one of them rewarded you in game for doing in game tasks, either in pvp, wvw or pve. Anet let the wvw community down with this reward. They may deem it good enough, which obviously they do and I suppose they have their reasons. However, to me they have missed the mark and I think WvW will suffer because of it.

To the winners goes the spoils, sadly these spoils under achieved in a game that constantly gives us spoils for playing it. When I can buy a new head skin at the Gem store for gold or $10.00, they could have given the winning worlds something as cool for putting in the 7 weeks worth of effort.

Pretty sure the winning worlds were decided before anyone did anything. For 7 weeks of playing you got lots of loot bags and WXP (more than someone who put in the same amount of effort on a lower tier server).

Guild Wars 2 didn’t need the chest so far. Guild Wars 1 didn’t need any reward for GvG.

That said, I agree that WvW rewards should still be higher (like loot and such or completing events) ‘cause PvE totally outpaces us and because they’re the bigger market they also set the prices. I just don’t think the season chest is the place to do it.

That or maybe lower the rewards in PvE! Life was fine before 10 gold/hour farming.

Perhaps a better example was the Hall of Heros from GW1. The monetary gain was outpaced by PvE farming areas, but was better than the average area. The real incentive was the glory of having your guild/team announced as winning to the entire game audience and “/rank” progression that one could use to display their achievement. What do you have in WvW? What can you show from WvW that you cant from PvE? Nothing. Add to that the fact that you STILL get less in WvW than you do in PvE.

I would much appreciate some kind of unique skins or finishers for WvW progression, indeed.

At the end of the day though I think WvW’s best reward is that it’s fun and you get to make friends on your server and other servers and if you’re good, you might even win someone’s respect.

Smooth Penguin.5294:

Aeonblade.8709:

Smooth Penguin.5294:

Asia Skyly.7198:

Smooth Penguin.5294:

And no, you can’t use high level Fractals as an argument for gearing.
…

Are you serious? Why not? Because it invalidates your statement? Fractals is the sole reason for Ascended armor to be honest. Limiting you to one character is by definition NOT Alt Friendly.

Because it’s an invalid argument. Fractals are elite dungeons. If you want to do the elite content, you gear yourself appropriately. If you want to be able to play the other 99% of the game, you don’t need Ascended.

Just because you can’t afford to do one dungeon, does not mean the game is alt unfriendly.

If you do WvW, full ascended is also required to play to the best of your classes capabilities. Min/Max baby, min/max

I play in all Exotics (except accessories), and can WvW just fine. What determines wins in WvW is size and coverage. If that didn’t matter, Maguuma would be wiping all servers due to our skill level.

Lots of WvW isn’t about zerg versus zerg or player versus door.

NargofWoV.4267:

Adian.8756:

Aeonblade.8709:

KrisHQ.4719:

NargofWoV.4267:

Finally, since “rewards” are all over this game, it begs the question, with your attitude why are you playing a reward based game? Go play chess.

wut

You said you didn’t need rewards, victory was reward enough. For the rest of us, that’s just plainly not true. MMORPG’s as a genre depend on rewards for time invested.

So as the poster said, Chess or another PvP game with no rewards would be a better fit for you

You want rewards and shiny pixels because you’ve been conditioned to wanting it. What kind of ‘rewards’ did Red Alert, Warcraft, Frogger, The Lost Vikings, Donkey Kong, Counter-Strike, Half-Life, Mario 64 etc etc. give you?

I have zero clue, I have never played any of those games, yet I have played almost every single MMO since the dawn of MMO’s from Diablo to UO to Everquest to DaoC to WoW to Warhammer to Aion, every one of them rewarded you in game for doing in game tasks, either in pvp, wvw or pve. Anet let the wvw community down with this reward. They may deem it good enough, which obviously they do and I suppose they have their reasons. However, to me they have missed the mark and I think WvW will suffer because of it.

To the winners goes the spoils, sadly these spoils under achieved in a game that constantly gives us spoils for playing it. When I can buy a new head skin at the Gem store for gold or $10.00, they could have given the winning worlds something as cool for putting in the 7 weeks worth of effort.

Pretty sure the winning worlds were decided before anyone did anything. For 7 weeks of playing you got lots of loot bags and WXP (more than someone who put in the same amount of effort on a lower tier server).

Guild Wars 2 didn’t need the chest so far. Guild Wars 1 didn’t need any reward for GvG.

That said, I agree that WvW rewards should still be higher (like loot and such or completing events) ‘cause PvE totally outpaces us and because they’re the bigger market they also set the prices. I just don’t think the season chest is the place to do it.

That or maybe lower the rewards in PvE! Life was fine before 10 gold/hour farming.

Cynz.9437:

styx.7294:

Rednik.3809:

SmoothHussler.6387:

Irony.5203:

The video has been up on our forums for a day longer than it has been here. The decision to post it here was pushed by the community as a whole.

Anyone else get the feeling that bg likes to think of themselves something along the lines of this???

Hm, topic with congratulations to blackgate, made by players of blackgate, with video about blackgate, published because of vote between blackgate players on blackgate forum, and full of posts made by blackgate players?
Yes, I think that your idea have some rational point.

No one’s making you watch it.

It shouldn’t be wrong for people to celebrate themselves having fun in the game with their servermates.

that is what server forums are for

Server forums can be that too but I’d say it also fits in the broad category of “WvW Discussion”.

eleshazar.6902:

You know how we can tell that devs are ignoring us? This thread hasn’t been closed (or received a dev comment) even after several call-outs against the development team, and particular developers as well. (Heck many people have called a certain developer a liar….)

In other words, the devs don’t bother ever looking in the guardian forum because none of them play guards…

At this point you’re just making up things to be angry about.

Maybe some reminds to help keep perspective? Our class is doing pretty well relative to most. Other than swiftness from one skill, I’d say the patch didn’t make us any worse off. We’re still valuable in just about every game mode (though at least in WvW there isn’t a lot of builds to choose from).

Is it too greedy to ask for the teleport to work without a target?

Rednik.3809:

SmoothHussler.6387:

Irony.5203:

The video has been up on our forums for a day longer than it has been here. The decision to post it here was pushed by the community as a whole.

Anyone else get the feeling that bg likes to think of themselves something along the lines of this???

Hm, topic with congratulations to blackgate, made by players of blackgate, with video about blackgate, published because of vote between blackgate players on blackgate forum, and full of posts made by blackgate players?
Yes, I think that your idea have some rational point.

No one’s making you watch it.

It shouldn’t be wrong for people to celebrate themselves having fun in the game with their servermates.

It’s one of the standard faces. It’s the one the premade guardian uses, if I recall correctly. Probably modified a bit (the lips mostly).

RyuDragnier.9476:

styx.7294:

RyuDragnier.9476:

style.6173:

Actually, I think the better solution is that stability should clear and prevent immobilize. Also, stun breakers should be able to break any immobilize/root in the game.

THIS! It seems like common sense that this should be the counter to immobilizes, that they should be declared a type of stun.

No, I like the variety. Stability is already a free pass on many important things, it should have things it can’t answer.

I meant the stun breakers thing. Makes no sense that some moves that are movement type stun breakers like Lightning Reflexes don’t break you out of it.

Makes sense to me, you’re chained. Doesn’t matter how alert you are.

And gameplay wise I think it’s good to not have one button for everything. If I’m immobilized and I hit my stun breaker instead of my condition removal (though as a guardian they’re the same thing..) then I should punished. Sometimes it happens I get stuck in a ranger root and blow 3 different skills trying to make myself move again and die because I wasn’t paying attention to what happened and I think that’s correct.

Northern Shiverpeaks is lucky enough to have talented guilds that are good at roaming, small group, and zerging. I’d get in touch with them, save yourself the transfer fee.

Edit: tM is always recruiting all sorts of bums so maybe check with them! I’ve seen videos of them doin 5-10 but also roamin stuffs too.

I’ve come around to thinking the chest shouldn’t have been more. It’s not what anyone should have been fighting for.

Gathslan.1870:

styx.7294:

RyuDragnier.9476:

style.6173:

Actually, I think the better solution is that stability should clear and prevent immobilize. Also, stun breakers should be able to break any immobilize/root in the game.

THIS! It seems like common sense that this should be the counter to immobilizes, that they should be declared a type of stun.

No, I like the variety. Stability is already a free pass on many important things, it should have things it can’t answer.

I will second this one, making stability counter root would be silly.

I’ll add that “Stand Your Ground!” is a widely used stun breaker that can provide group stability up to somethin like 10 out of 24 seconds and can remove up to 2 conditions (which includes immobilize and chill and cripple) off that same group.

Only snare it doesn’t deal with is the ranger roots. So there you go.

Peetee.9406:

I think the problem is that you’re still trying to do WvW on a low pop server. You’re like the old man screaming ‘get off my lawn’, times have changed. Move up!

Don’t be part of the problem. Smarten up.

Unless you’re the top server, there’s always servers that have smaller population. If you don’t want the game dying a server at a time, WvW needs to be fun on every server.

RyuDragnier.9476:

style.6173:

Actually, I think the better solution is that stability should clear and prevent immobilize. Also, stun breakers should be able to break any immobilize/root in the game.

THIS! It seems like common sense that this should be the counter to immobilizes, that they should be declared a type of stun.

No, I like the variety. Stability is already a free pass on many important things, it should have things it can’t answer.

Bash.7291:

Guardians are fine in Pve because mobs stand still, guardians are fine in sPvP because people have to stand in rings, which will be changing, and will honestly show some glaring flaws. Guardians in WvW are pretty much limited to one build in group play, and gimmick burst builds for roaming. But considering everyone plays that one build in group play, half the people don’t see any issues -.-

Basically this.

No, please no. No more gear grind. I didn’t at all sign up for a treadmill.

Aeonblade.8709:

styx.7294:

Aeonblade.8709:

KrisHQ.4719:

NargofWoV.4267:

Finally, since “rewards” are all over this game, it begs the question, with your attitude why are you playing a reward based game? Go play chess.

wut

You said you didn’t need rewards, victory was reward enough. For the rest of us, that’s just plainly not true. MMORPG’s as a genre depend on rewards for time invested.

So as the poster said, Chess or another PvP game with no rewards would be a better fit for you

MMORPG aren’t that at all. “Rest of us” is smaller than you think. It would be a terrible game if we were to WvW for whatever came out of that chest.

That wasn’t the point of my post, It was to explain because he asked “What?”

I know but I just don’t like it when people say MMOs are about time and rewards. Skinner boxes are about time and rewards.

Aeonblade.8709:

KrisHQ.4719:

NargofWoV.4267:

Finally, since “rewards” are all over this game, it begs the question, with your attitude why are you playing a reward based game? Go play chess.

wut

You said you didn’t need rewards, victory was reward enough. For the rest of us, that’s just plainly not true. MMORPG’s as a genre depend on rewards for time invested.

So as the poster said, Chess or another PvP game with no rewards would be a better fit for you

MMORPG aren’t that at all. “Rest of us” is smaller than you think. It would be a terrible game if we were to WvW for whatever came out of that chest.

Abaddon is dead and Dhuum is defeated. Forgot Kormir though.. as well as all the non human faiths =P

We’ve been telling them to stop for 13 months now but well, it’s over and done with. All the ascended gear is in and Colin’s on record sayin that there is no plan for any more gear tiers for probably several years now.

What I’m sayin, the only comfort I can give is that this is as bad as it gets (unless they add more stat upgrades to WXP! DON’T DO THAT ARENANET)

Brutaly.6257:

daros.3407:

Brutaly.6257:

People exagerate. This isnt the end of the world.

Was the change to Sos a nerf, no it wasnt. In most scenarios its a buff and in some a huge buff.

Wrong. In very few scenarios it is buff and in most it is HUGE nerf.

Trait larger symbols and learn to land the symbol so two ticks hit you when running thru. With untraited symbols its a nerf and as long as you have a secondary source of swiftness (if swiftness is what you want) its a buff.

With superior aria and larger symbols its a buff.

So its not Sos that got a nerf, its your way of using it. And mine ofc, but i will/have changed my way of using it so the change benefits me.

If I gotta use a trait to do what I could do before without the trait (have 100% swiftness up time), I’m likely to think it’s a nerf.

Without trying it in game yet, I can’t judge though.

Farzo.8410:

styx.7294:

Farzo.8410:

Hello.

Is there a way to hide from profession changes in the future? Like, lock my profession the way it is now?

I’m scared, and I don’t want to reroll a Mesmer, Thief, Necromancer or a Warrior in the future.

You do realize most of the numbers went up (just not as much as anyone wanted to). I mean, one handed sword bonus damage doubled.

I don’t see myself ever traiting into Radiance.

My point was that, ‘cept the staff change, we’re not really off any worse. shrug I do wish it got more shaken up but I can’t say I’m scared. Plus nerfs/buffs come and go.

Righteous.4307:

clint.5681:

Arius.7031:

clint.5681:

Righteous.4307:

bob.8632:

Madora.9340:

After fighting just about every server it seems in Bronze tier, everyone goes after SF. I think they just want to test our mettle and I’m not entirely sure why.

SF just generates the most hate of all the bronze tiers, everybody likes to beat the “bad guy”.

The reason is that most servers accept defeat. As a whole when a server looses they tend to say internally, “Welp, we really need to improve X, Y, and Z.” Servers will begin to promote teamwork between guilds, community leaders will encourage PvE players to participate in WvW, and equally importantly the leaders will work to keep those players actively in WvW even when the going gets tough.

SF on the other hand always blames something that is outside of their control, and worse yet SF does it on the forums. “It’s Black Friday”, “It’s Thanksgiving”, “We don’t play for PPT”, etc. All of those are word for word direct quotes from ONE matchup. Other servers don’t dislike SF because you’re the “bad guy” they dislike SF because the vocal majority of SF players post on the forums giving excuses and being sore losers. This is not indicative of every player on your server, but it does reflect the overall image that your server creates for others to see.

Finally, before you get bent out of shape and post how I am just saying these things and attacking your character, I just want to let you know that I am looking at this as objectively as possible. Go look at your matchup threads and then look at other servers matchup threads. See how the tone that SF projects differs from the norm. Soon you will see it too. Even now, if you check the current SF matchup you claim that it is because you are getting double teamed… and even if that happens to be the case from time to time SF complains about it on the forums. The other popular excuse with SF right now is “We are burnt out from leagues”… as if every other server didn’t just play 7 weeks of league play.

Ahh I forgot all the other servers are perfect and no one makes excuses but us. Go look back at the last 7 weeks of match up threads starting with week one and suddenly you see a different story than the bullkitten you wrote here.

Most servers aren’t terribly whiny about their losses though. Look at Dh Vs HoD week 4, barely any whining occurred. In fact, multiple posts were made that ONLY complimented on HoD on their victory and how well deserved it was.

If it helps, you’re not the only server that is viewed as whiny in bronze lol, at least from a Dh perspective.

look at our match up with HoD and you will see the same, NEXT

For the sake of fair perspective, I went back and read the matchup. What did I find? The entire first page was filled with SF complaining about game balance and throwing in the towel. And then you wonder why all of your casual WvW’ers abandon you. Its important to think about how a server projects itself in the public forums. You wondered why people dislike SF and don’t transfer there.

Furthermore the DH poster is correct. Look at the matchup threads where DH hit HoD or SF and lost then read the matchup thread where SF was against HoD or DH and lost. You will see what everyone else sees.

Keep in mind that I am not talking specifically about you, but rather I am speaking to SF as a whole. SF has a very vocal majority who complain, whine, and are sore losers. That’s the public perception, but it can certainly be changed. I suppose this is getting off topic now though, because we are talking about why most servers that play SF dont like SF rather than actual rivalries.

“SF has a very vocal majority who complain, whine, and are sore losers.”

“And then you wonder why all of your casual WvW’ers abandon you.”

“You wondered why people dislike SF and don’t transfer there.”

Righteousness, I would say that it’s a stretch for anyone to pretend to be an authority on their own server, let alone someone else’s.

Farzo.8410:

Hello.

Is there a way to hide from profession changes in the future? Like, lock my profession the way it is now?

I’m scared, and I don’t want to reroll a Mesmer, Thief, Necromancer or a Warrior in the future.

You do realize most of the numbers went up (just not as much as anyone wanted to). I mean, one handed sword bonus damage doubled.