Guild Wars 2

TheMaskedParadigm.3629:

Nikaido.3457:

ilr.9675:

Video about Ranger damage….
Party is 3 Wars and a Guard

Another masterpiece from Brazil

Not surprised he chose to replace the mesmer instead of another war.
And unlike the LH ele the ranger doesn’t really have much war replacing potential. At best they can replace one war. It doesn’t grant the kind of benefit the LH ele does through spamming LH into fire fields. The only things it can bring is done by a single ranger at which point you’ll hit high diminishing returns for taking more.

They also lack the utility such as crowd control with that weapon set and we all know how useful the war mace knockdown / guardian pull or banish / mesmer interrupt / LH launch are for CoE farms. Seems like a leech build, exactly like Nike’s necromancer.

This thread would be brazil’s best troll if it manages to convince a couple people to spend their in game gold to craftlvl a ranger.

Does it hurt that much to say that Ranger is useful?

Hasn’t really inspired me to use my already crafted ranger. It’s just confirmed what I already suspected, and that’s that it can work, but there’s not really a point unless it makes the run noticeably faster.

Dolan.3071:

I legitimately have not seem a shout heal warrior in over a year, maybe I’m just lucky. However the pure ranged Guards, Thieves and Rangers are at least one in each PuG. Alternately I have a soft spot for staff Ele’s

Every. kitten . Pug.

Every time. Without fail. There’s at least one of what you just mentioned, in fact in alot of them, there’s at least three. And if there isn’t, it’s a guardian not using virtues at all or a class running full signets or a guy in magic find auto attacking in fire attunement…

And they tell me I’m a scumbag for asking them to ping their gear.. whatever -.- /scumbag life.

Must still be alot of pent up feelings as my post was reported

Anyways. It’s the individual who is the issue and not the guild. No drama here >_>

Dempsey.8760:

swiftpaw.6397:

Only problem I have with this.. is this. This is the destroyer. He’s rubbish easy. You can stand there without issue and whale on him while a guardian blocks his dragon’s tooth every so often. I find that melee’ing on ranger with the sword 1 chain to be alot more difficult in other situations, especially as glass cannon which leaves you like paper. 2 issues are this- 1 is that the auto chain can lock you in place, 2 is the pet which is gonna get destroyed in most fights so you can forget about that dps ( I’m looking @ u alpha).

The real problem I have with ranger is that it can be good dps, in select situations like the destroyer.. But these situations are few and far between. I’d like to be able to run ranger for every speedclear, and have it be viable for every part of a speedclear, not just the parts where it doesn’t matter what class you brought as long as it was glass. Also I’m interested to know where you’re placing frost spirit on Alpha, I always fantasized about having that extra 10% dmg buff.

I’m guessing a way around the crappy ( but high damage, yes) sword auto attack lock could be to pick up an ele weapon. He only really needs one hammer per alpha encounter anyways if you kill him fast enough.

My only problem with you saying that destroyer is rubbish easy is that through all of my coe runs with LOD never once did they clear it in 1 try without timewarp. So the ability for your members to predict the ease of encounters or the possible usefulness of some classes is rather funny to me.

I guess that must be because it was with you. I guess that was a deciding factor no? we’ve done it without TW, we’ve even done it minus a warrior and minus TW in one go. I find your assumptions funny.

Hamartia.3421:

Hopefully we’ll see some of these changes in the upcoming fractals update!

Eh? is there an ETA on that? I wasn’t under the impression there was an upcoming fotm update ( at least not any time soon) I was thinking more next year kind of thing?

Vox Hollow.2736:

No, no, dear. You’re very intelligent. I’m just having a communication fail right now. Truthfully, I should probably just drop it. I’d hate to derail anymore than I already have.

Welp I guess I really dont understand what it is you are saying. Either way, not really interested seeing as I was looking for answers to a few of my questions from brazil, which I received.

Softspoken.2410:

swiftpaw.6397:

Only problem I have with this.. is this. This is the destroyer. He’s rubbish easy. You can stand there without issue and whale on him while a guardian blocks his dragon’s tooth every so often.

The real problem I have with ranger is that it can be good dps, in select situations like the destroyer.. But these situations are few and far between. I’d like to be able to run ranger for every speedclear, and have it be viable for every part of a speedclear, not just the parts where it doesn’t matter what class you brought as long as it was glass.

I’m guessing a way around the crappy ( but high damage, yes) sword auto attack lock could be to pick up an ele weapon. He only really needs one hammer per alpha encounter anyways if you kill him fast enough.

Vox Hollow.2736:

@swiftpaw
Like, seventeen billion slave driver videos later and people are only just now getting a conscience about strawman science? Doesn’t it seem a little late for that?

I cropped out pieces of both posts in an attempt for clarity.

He makes the assumption that in my spare time I am actively denying any evidence put forth to me. That is incorrect. The fact is that ‘slave driver’ isn’t every fight in the game and is irrelevant to what I am talking about, and also that I am really only interested in a few things here- 1.) if the pet survives at Alpha and 2.) how sword auto attack chain is going. Finally a decent and relevant video is released and I am in support of it and he doesn’t like that, well big whoop.

TheMaskedParadigm.3629:

swiftpaw.6397:

Vox Hollow.2736:

@swiftpaw
Like, seventeen billion slave driver videos later and people are only just now getting a conscience about strawman science? Doesn’t it seem a little late for that?

Re: Subject Alpha
By virtue of stacking and having people dodge into a pillar/wall, you’re hitting the five person cap on AOEs automagically. There was an update a while ago that changed pets into being the lowest priority for AOE, which is why you might have experienced it one way at first and then come back later to find it different.

I am referring to alpha fight in particular but nice try. Pet’s still dead on alot of other stuff. Not surprised if it survives in cof, that dungeon is easy mode.

http://youtu.be/Lwf-cpHjqQU

Watch the Alpha fight. Be amazed.

Ok so he just doesn’t get hit at all :o

Last time I took my ranger in there was with a pug many months ago, and of course them not stacking/range attacking seems to have made the difference in whether pet got hit or not. Or it may have been that AoE Update.

I notice in this one you have an ele, I was thinking ranger would be better off replacing a warrior than an ele too.

Vox Hollow.2736:

@ Swiftpaw
Just to make sure we’re on the same page, because I can’t quite make heads or tails of what you just said.

First parapraph was for you.
Second paragraph was for Masked to help explain what he’s seeing.

Well that’s good because I’m not making head or tails or how what you are saying is relevant to me.

Vox Hollow.2736:

@swiftpaw
Like, seventeen billion slave driver videos later and people are only just now getting a conscience about strawman science? Doesn’t it seem a little late for that?

Re: Subject Alpha
By virtue of stacking and having people dodge into a pillar/wall, you’re hitting the five person cap on AOEs automagically. There was an update a while ago that changed pets into being the lowest priority for AOE, which is why you might have experienced it one way at first and then come back later to find it different.

I am referring to alpha fight in particular but nice try. Pet’s still dead on alot of other stuff. Not surprised if it survives in cof, that dungeon is easy mode.

Now, back to what I was talking about with brazil before I was rudely interrupted.
Now I take it you are using the stack on him method, and the pet stands where? inside him/in front of him or behind him? Do you have to position it somehow or it just keeps itself up there? I’m just wondering how it’s taking the brunt of the aoes and if it has to deal with the frontal attack. Does protection from guard hammer give it the survival needed or is it just not getting hit at all?

haviz.1340:

swiftpaw.6397:

If they don’t at least use entangle/MT I start getting annoyed. Never liked them there -.-

Are they unblockable?

no, I mean for the elementals that spawn. They don’t work on the shaman himself. Idea is guard pulls them in, pops a soa/wall, ranger immobilizes them all inside.

haviz.1340:

Ranger dps is and never was bad but they lack utility. What could ranger offer against for instance grawl shaman? Just don’t say hunter’s call.

If they don’t at least use entangle/MT I start getting annoyed. Never liked them there -.-

Broadicea.8294:

Pugs at 30+ fractals:

This. It’s this. Every. Kitten. Day.

I you can dodge oncoming magic find leechers, you can dodge a bad party!

Only problem I have with this.. is this. This is the destroyer. He’s rubbish easy. You can stand there without issue and whale on him while a guardian blocks his dragon’s tooth every so often. I find that melee’ing on ranger with the sword 1 chain to be alot more difficult in other situations, especially as glass cannon which leaves you like paper. 2 issues are this- 1 is that the auto chain can lock you in place, 2 is the pet which is gonna get destroyed in most fights so you can forget about that dps ( I’m looking @ u alpha).

The real problem I have with ranger is that it can be good dps, in select situations like the destroyer.. But these situations are few and far between. I’d like to be able to run ranger for every speedclear, and have it be viable for every part of a speedclear, not just the parts where it doesn’t matter what class you brought as long as it was glass. Also I’m interested to know where you’re placing frost spirit on Alpha, I always fantasized about having that extra 10% dmg buff.

I’m guessing a way around the crappy ( but high damage, yes) sword auto attack lock could be to pick up an ele weapon. He only really needs one hammer per alpha encounter anyways if you kill him fast enough.

I always wanted this one too

lol idiocy. nerf nerf nerf without consideration for pve. Retal is already crap there. Hurry up and split skills A-Net… -_-

I thought the first dungeon people encountered was the story mode version >_>

I will actually try this. ty brazil mwah mwah <3

ilr.9675:

I’m going ignore the shrieking voice in the back of my brain who obviously knows better, and go ahead and revive this temporarily to make the following humble Request…

I’d REALLY like to just see how my own Ranger performs in a standard Arah Path … & then hopefully Path 4 too if I can convince/bribe 3-4 people here to agree to it. *(I can pull atleast 1 person from my Guild as well to fill in if needed). …b/c really, that’s the better DPS test, not some COF kiddy path for test tube builds.

It’s basically a Paraway/Regen support build. …think standard Bogs farming/runner setup… mostly Melee weaps for DPS :p …don’t need a speed clear party, just folks like SkyChef or others from the old December/January crew who got’er’done even when Path1 was totally bugged. Those guys knew my Guardian never failed it. So I’m asking like minded folks to volunteer for a quick test of this. It would be greatly appreciated for educational purposes & ranger confidence in general.

Any Volunteers please?

Pretty bored with the game, u can count me in for kittens and giggles

PUG= Pick up group. Meaning you pick up a group of people you very likely have never come into contact with before. You have no idea of their gear or skill level and no planned coordination other than common sense and the hopes that everyone’s watched a video at some point or done it before somewhere. I have a group of friends I do things with too, I would chose them over random pugs any day of the week and it’s not just because they’re nice guys.. it’s because we know how to work together and we know exactly what each of us is doing. GL getting random pugs to do that.

Revolutionary.

colesy.8490:

Harrahou.4518:

watch?v=GOuOmNL4yEY

Thats the video I will upload new guides soon

Note this is pre-patch, hence the instant focus pull at the start rather than with the now 1 second cooldown.

Secondly, Strife has left and don’t think he even cares, so if all of you people trying to beat DnT could put your raging erections away for beating their time that would be nice.

But-but I love this kind of stuff. Everyone wants to be e-famous! :o

I like charr for Battle Roar, sometimes can be useful in a group lacking any fury output. I have a charr guardian and a sylvari guardian, both 80’s and I use one built for one set of dungeons and one built for the other. I enjoy them both equally ^-^ Maybe you could consider having both charr and human :o

Delay.6908:

swiftpaw.6397:

It’s this, fools.

FTFY

Dont nerf the banner, pls nerf the op rangers using it.

People fight over the darnedest things.

It’s this, fools.

The Mexican Cookie.3690:

Zacchaeed.2834:

Harrahou.4518:

If anyone has an interest in having the best CoF runs on a regular basis, follow this thread I will be uploading a video and linking it here on the most efficient way to run the dungeon.

You’re kidding, right?

Any mate and his dog know how to run this dungeon. There is no science to it.

This dungeon has a community of its own and it is full of terrible players who don’t know anything but CoF.

I thought your original post was more accurate Probably edited for the best, though.

Now I need to know what it was -.-

deSade.9437:

swiftpaw.6397:

I too find hammers unsightly I have the jade dragon one and the hotw skin one atm. Legendary is ok too but meh. I think the new AP zenith skin one is ok too I guess.

Zenith hammer is the answer. More visible than the leggie. The animation is so dull in combat…

Yeh might get that one next. It’s either that or the zenith greatsword for my other guardian. Decisions T_T

Broadicea.8294:

COMING SOON: Guide to getting ectos from salvaging rares!

pls master show me your ways

I too find hammers unsightly I have the jade dragon one and the hotw skin one atm. Legendary is ok too but meh. I think the new AP zenith skin one is ok too I guess.

Miiro.3124:

so tired of reading posts about how bad rangers are. I do fine on my ranger. you guys over exaggerate so kittening much its painful. I understood after the patch you guys would cry and cry but its been a couple weeks now… Can you guys grow a pair and move on or get better with the current ranger? kkthx

I love deluding myself too.

Jzl.8715:

How many times to we really have to go through this?

You can’t just walk into an established culture with very clear expectations/standards and start criticizing because it doesn’t suit you… The rate we are seeing these posts is just sad. At least I can say what I like about the CoF runners is that they are fairly clear and specific about what they what to do and who they want to do it with, as opposed to actions like,

Lyndis.2584:

Sticky this please so you teach all the noobs how to do it properly elitists.

well my parents taught me not to say anything if I don’t have anything nice to say, so this is all I had to say.

It’s ok I’ll say it for you.

My friend, it appears to me that you have arrived at a misunderstanding of that an ‘elitist’ is and how this affects you negatively. You see, the issue at hand here is not that people are being elitist, it is that you are being an unsuitable player for their speed clears and they do not wish to take you because of it. If you are just wanting to get the dungeon done, there are plenty of non-speed clear parties you can join, or you can make your own. There is no use having a hissy fit and typing up some passive aggressive rant on the forums in the hopes that someone will listen to you.

‘Sticky this please so you teach all the noobs how to do it properly elitists.’

Here is a very insightful video on how this works: http://youtu.be/1nCWHb8JamU
It’s step by step, nice and slow. It can be a very complex and time consuming task but I know in time and with lots of practice, anyone can get the hang of it.

deSade.9437:

SkyChef.5432:

Broadicea.8294:

ugh it’s sooooo difficult to find a non warr/mes party

http://youtu.be/1nCWHb8JamU

[thanks neigeux!]

ROFL IN ALL CAPITALS.

Be careful, you might be infracted. Ya know, someone might feel offended by those offensive capitals.
Can I use that video as signature?

As a concerned christian and respected pillar of the community, I am writing to you to display utmost disgust at what has been typed here today. I am thoroughly offended and I expect a full retraction of all statements in this thread and an official apology. Nothing more and nothing less. You are all talking like filthy urchins. Good day to you.

http://youtu.be/5hfYJsQAhl0

Enjoy.

Broadicea.8294:

ugh it’s sooooo difficult to find a non warr/mes party

http://youtu.be/1nCWHb8JamU

[thanks neigeux!]

THAT LOOKS TOO HARD

There will be an lfg system thankfully and the reason there isn’t is because they didn’t have time, not because it was intentional.

haviz.1340:

swiftpaw.6397:

0/15/0/30/25 Radience: VI , Honor: II, VIII, XI Virtues: VI, IX

Note the longer consecrations, this will enable you to get the most out of wall of reflection. As a note, if you are only guardian in group, I like to take shield over focus to fill in gaps in cooldowns between WoR and SoA for bosses that need longer amounts of reflect uptime.

You can spam virtue of justice on every kill which will, due to traits give AoE Blind and vulnerability, very nice on ascalon, kraits at jellyfish, and dredge if only for the might stacks since they cant be blinded.

Virtue of resolve (absolute resolution)- 3 condi removals right there from traits, or you can switch this out for indomitable courage for stability on aegis which is also very useful. Pure of voice, converts condis into boons- very nice. I like to run this with boon duration runes for a good effect or you can go the route of ruby orbs/scholar if you want more deeps, or even soldier if you feel you need even more condi rem.

Superior aria and empowering might- self explanitory

utilities- full bar of shouts. WoR and SoA when required, always have retreat on bar. Renewed focus- Use this and all your virtues often. I see many people hardly touch this. cooldown is low and having those 3 virtues up to use again is powerful stuff. Tome of courage for maw ( of course)

If this is a build strictly for fractals, you have too many condition removals. Direct damage is much more threatening than condition damage, especially on higher levels.

Of course, I prefer to only have PoV as only condi rem, and its more that I prefer to boons it gives I suppose.

Nikaido.3457:

Pure of voice is actually rather meh in fractals (and in any other dungeon where you run with ele and a fire field bar) since you don’t really use a lot of shout there. Particularly when you have both SoA and wall on things like the dredge fractal pure of voice is just completely useless.
Almost all of the harsher parts of fractals will make you replace two shouts.

I used to run PoV but you get used to running without it after a while and you don’t really need it in a good group even in a dungeon like TA if your group doesn’t try to outrun your guard while you use staff on the nasty blossoms. Although after a recent TA run where I’ve had people try too hard to outrun me (remember that you run slower while in combat mode and you will be in combat mode while staffing stuff so the people behind can easily outrun you before they get hit by mobs/trigger blossoms) pure of voice can be an almost indispensable crutch and I found myself wishing I had this three shout bar..

I agree with this, I usually run in pugs for the high lvl fotms so I like to take the extra insurance. Most pugs are’nt packing a blast finishing ele If Im lucky enough to get an ele majority of them are on staff -_-
It’s why I have two guardians now XD One for fotm pugging and the other for everything else/guild stuff :P

Oh and for dredge I usually just have WoR, SYG and retreat, once we hit clown car I take both wor and soa. For most parts that req reflections I just take the one Wall, given there’s usually a mesmer with feedbacks and etc and things are dead before another reflect is required. I think bloomhunger/fire shaman is (one of) the most annoying parts, def need both reflects for that. I have considered taking out PoV and trying out the zealous line for Fiery Wrath (10% vs burning, would go well with the justice spam) or adding to virtues line.

0/15/0/30/25 Radience: VI , Honor: II, VIII, XI Virtues: VI, IX

Note the longer consecrations, this will enable you to get the most out of wall of reflection. As a note, if you are only guardian in group, I like to take shield over focus to fill in gaps in cooldowns between WoR and SoA for bosses that need longer amounts of reflect uptime.

You can spam virtue of justice on every kill which will, due to traits give AoE Blind and vulnerability, very nice on ascalon, kraits at jellyfish, and dredge if only for the might stacks since they cant be blinded.

Virtue of resolve (absolute resolution)- 3 condi removals right there from traits, or you can switch this out for indomitable courage for stability on aegis which is also very useful. Pure of voice, converts condis into boons- very nice. I like to run this with boon duration runes for a good effect or you can go the route of ruby orbs/scholar if you want more deeps, or even soldier if you feel you need even more condi rem.

Superior aria and empowering might- self explanitory

utilities- full bar of shouts. WoR and SoA when required, always have retreat on bar. Renewed focus- Use this and all your virtues often. I see many people hardly touch this. cooldown is low and having those 3 virtues up to use again is powerful stuff. Tome of courage for maw ( of course)

Gnat.9405:

So I run pretty standard AH build on my Guard in Fractals. I usually go Scepter/Shield for ranged set and GS for melee, but I am going to transition back to Hammer for melee.

Is hammer useful in higher level fractals?

Certainly. I recommend you have one of every weapon minus say.. mace and torch really.
Here are some guardian weapons and their uses in high end fractals.

Hammer- Circle of warding. Use this ring on ascalon fractal. People will stack around corners and behind the walls and rubble before pulling one of those cluster-kitten mobs with the charging warriors. Just as they approach, put down your ring of warding, back up, use hammer 3 to immobilize them in a line just before ring runs out. After that you can switch to:

Staff- Line of warding. Line of ward them right after your immobi/ring runs out then bip everyone’s health and might up with empower. Hit your aegis options/reflects if there ranged attackers in that group. Switch back to hammer to get the protection going in melee. By this stage most of the warriors should be just about dead with a decent team.

Line of warding and circle of warding from these weapons can also be used well in Dredge fractal for obvious reasons. There are other places you can do this but those are the main ones :P

1H sword+ focus- Jade Maw fractal. This is an amazing weapon and here’s why. Number 2 skill is a blind. It also has high single target damage. Run this set with greatsword and you can melee down tentacles without issue. Everytime they use a knock down attack ( well telegraphed), use Sword 2 blind to prevent it, next attack, focus block, next attack, greatsword blind, next attack, stand your ground, next attack virtue of courage. You have a nice set of skills you can chain to never get hit by tenties and still be able to do your best damage in melee range.

I want to also mention that although hammer appears to be low dps, it has incredibly decent sustained dps whereas greatsword will do better burst damage, but hammer will maintain great over all damage so long as you are keeping the autoattack’s symbol up. I might also add that hammer 2 is a blast finisher which can be mighty useful on fire fields and water fields for might and healing. For alot of the fractals I have started just using GS as an aoe pull weapon. There’s plenty of places for this, but I prefer hammer for when pulls are not required.

Another point I would like to make, is that once you are fairly comfortable in fractals you may wish to consider not running AH. Not running AH opens up many options for you and will help you get the most out of your guardian for team support and if you are skilled enough/experienced enough, you really don’t need the AH healing to keep you going. I typically run for a 48 pug- full knights armor and full berserker trinkets, I recently switched to a no AH build and have had little issue, but I sure noticed the difference in support I could pump out for the team. At lower levels and guild 48 teams it’s full berserkers everything.

Ya’ all are changing the topic to whether or not someone is changing the topic. GG.

Well I certainly don’t recommend going and solo’ing lupicus if you are new players and new to dungeons. That’s not very realistic.

The dungeons are solo-able but they are intended for groups, and such, if you wish to solo or 2 man, you will need a good deal of experience with not only the dungeon but the class you are playing on as well, not to mention the correct gear and trait setups.
My suggestion to you is to try out gw2lfg.com. I can tell you right now that most of the groups on GW2lfg are far from elite. The majority are ragtag teams with random classes, they have a basic knowledge of boss encounters and will are capable of finishing the runs although not in any record times. Many a time I have come across inexperienced players, but they are the least of your worries on gw2lfg, I and others generally welcome noobs because they are willing to listen to instruction, unlike some idiot who thinks he knows everything and rushes ahead popping all the nightmare blossoms.. and there are plenty of those.

A good dungeon to start with would be honor of the waves path 1, it’s quick and easy and for someone inexperienced there’s not too much you need to learn, it’s a good entry level dungeon, filled with mobs with predictable attacks and a bunch oh HP to burn through and you can get a group pretty easily.

Sandpit.3467:

Oidmetala.8426:

then write 3 ideas
and rangers use this topic more :P
100 qq topics make anet not care much :/

You can write all the ideas you like, and there are many threads in these forums the do just that, but until ANet gives a kitten you have to realise that is is just pointless theory craft because nothing is going to happen and you are wearing your keyboard down for no purpose.

ANet really doesn’t care here.

Gotta agree here. I see a new theory craft almost everyday, and some of them are really great, but they all fall down the same sad realization that A-Net is going to ignore them and someone’s wasted a great deal of their time and energy typing them up. There was this great thread a while back by a guy about converting pets to spirits with all these cool attacks and all that, and it would have worked really well, I really wish a dev had at least commented on it

People tend to get offended when they hit that harsh realization that their ideals are either wrong or seriously conflicting with what another person thinks or has expressed. People don’t like either of these situations because they require cognitive change or effort on their part. (If they are wrong they have to admit it, and change their opinions. If they are in disagreement, it would mean they have to present a credible argument to prove their opinion is the correct one.) However, instead of rectifying their issues, they decide to cry ’I’m offended!’ and expect other people to make concessions on their behalf.

lunyboy.8672:

swiftpaw.6397:

lunyboy.8672:

swiftpaw.6397:

lunyboy.8672:

swiftpaw.6397:

lunyboy.8672:

akamon.2769:

why all the hate and sarcasm? the OP was just sharing his story of how he did the dungeon THEIR way, as a group, and completed it.

Because the elitists think it is hilarious to make fun of people who are actually having fun doing some of these dungeons for the first time. What they forget is that the first time THEY did the dungeon, it probably didn’t go as well, and after a few rage quits, they eked through it, and then bragged to all their friends about how easy it was.

So precious.

Labeling people you don’t agree with elitists /justgirlythings.

Making fun of people you don’t agree with. #jrhighmuch?

Who says I don’t agree with you?

Who answers questions with questions? :/

I don’t know?

I want to dislike you, you elitist you, but I can’t.

I… I feel.. No one has ever said this to me before. T_T *tears of joy *.

lunyboy.8672:

swiftpaw.6397:

lunyboy.8672:

swiftpaw.6397:

lunyboy.8672:

akamon.2769:

why all the hate and sarcasm? the OP was just sharing his story of how he did the dungeon THEIR way, as a group, and completed it.

Because the elitists think it is hilarious to make fun of people who are actually having fun doing some of these dungeons for the first time. What they forget is that the first time THEY did the dungeon, it probably didn’t go as well, and after a few rage quits, they eked through it, and then bragged to all their friends about how easy it was.

So precious.

Labeling people you don’t agree with elitists /justgirlythings.

Making fun of people you don’t agree with. #jrhighmuch?

Who says I don’t agree with you?

Who answers questions with questions? :/

I don’t know?

lunyboy.8672:

swiftpaw.6397:

lunyboy.8672:

akamon.2769:

why all the hate and sarcasm? the OP was just sharing his story of how he did the dungeon THEIR way, as a group, and completed it.

Because the elitists think it is hilarious to make fun of people who are actually having fun doing some of these dungeons for the first time. What they forget is that the first time THEY did the dungeon, it probably didn’t go as well, and after a few rage quits, they eked through it, and then bragged to all their friends about how easy it was.

So precious.

Labeling people you don’t agree with elitists /justgirlythings.

Making fun of people you don’t agree with. #jrhighmuch?

Who says I don’t agree with you?

Blood Red Arachnid.2493:

I’m not saying he’s off topic. I’m saying he’s changing the subject. The topic is still DPS.

/facepalm.

colesy.8490:

Xhyros.1340:

n astirh.9062:

Two of us did our homework by reading and watching guides, the others were kind enough to follow our tips.

You said incompetent. This line here clearly shows your group was anything but.

They used the word incompetent on purpose to draw out all of us “scumbag elitists”. Also note the fact that the OP points out there was a ranger, they’re just trying to bait responses.

Like moths to the flame :o