Guild Wars 2

Lots of ex-players with forum posting accounts.

It’s fine to be honest, their opinions should be listened to.

They’ll be back playing GW2 soon.

Aragiel.6132:

+1 for the patch as well..

now i would really like to see strong focus on how to separate PUG vs Premades play.. – in other word, im looking for matchmaking in general. HOpe this will be next priority

Good point

- We really need matchmaking (sort of like ratings but even if we can’t see ratings, we should still have matchmaking)

Also:

lol @ people whining about 100blades warriors <— these are the zero-skill pug whiners mentioned earlier

I don’t mind shatters, I can deal with those. A bunch of clones rushing you = dodge. Deal with it.

People are hotjoin puggers, but the metagame should always be balanced around top end play. You can’t balance around bad players. It’s up to bad players to get better, not the game to suit them.

Bunker ele and guardian are both an issue that is being addressed. I’ve seen plenty of unkillable ele bunkers, it was broken before. Also, I actually think with the boon duration reduction and the seemingly small guardian tweaks, you’ll see guardians will be a lot more reasonable too now. It’s all in the details.

That the class balance changes are not massive sweeping changes is very good. They are taking it slow and careful and watching what players do. Bad players will still die to thieves and 100b warriors. Good players will start to comp and strat differently.

It’s a complex and quite balanced metagame so far (for a MMO). Just watch the effects of this patch and see.

2 things:

- small steps with balance changes
- not pandering to bad players and whiners

The main “new” good things with the patch are 5v5 hotjoin and actually the new PVP daily, I’m seeing a lot of new people in the mists already with this simple change.

I do like that bunkers are clearly being looked at. Already guardians and eles feel toned down, which was very much needed. This along with mesmer fire-and-forget dps nerf (so you can’t just bring 2 mesmers now, but they’re not weak either) mean that Tpvp is in a much better spot than before.

I would still like the possibility of somehow making the game viable for glass cannons in Tourney play. Right now, it’s pretty much suicide, but there’s got to be a way to include them outside of lolpug hotjoin.

GJ and keep it up, try to make more frequent updates for class balance. A week is good data and there’s more to do besides:

- We really need those esports features, spectator mode etc

- We really want a ladder, this is very very important, it should be added today, with ratings and visible leaderboards (and not just a list on the forum either) – the best players and teams need recognition, and from there on everything follows.

Balance is much better than every other MMO.

The changes are small, but noticeable.

Bunker guardians and eles are not as broken as before.

Thief is no major issue unless you are a hotjoin pugger.

Mesmer damage is a lot less fire and forget, which is a good thing.

5v5 pug hotjoin

class balance changes that make sense

Thieves are not dominant in tournament play, the big issues in tourney play have been:

- bunker ele/guardian/engi: they tweaked these in the patch notes in various ways, let’s see how it works in practice

- mesmer: same, too dominant in tourneys; instead of removing portal, they are just dropping the dps / ease of dps of phantasms

- necros and rangers have needed boosts and got minor boosts, some would say not enough for ranger, but small steps

- thief warrior: are fine in tournament play, not even that good, thief clusterbombing was a bit much in wvw, so they reduced that

Overall, this is very encouraging:

Anet are not listening to pug whiners about thieves and 100b warriors. They are tweaking the actual issues with skilled PVP comps and doing so in piecemeal steps rather than big sweeping changes.

Arc.9374:

A large number of people already have left, and aren’t likely to look back.

My old tourney team dwindled from having 5 people online pretty regularly to 4, to 3, to 2, and now to only me being the only relatively active player over a 2 week period. It’s also been over a week since I set foot in the mists except to get free travel back to LA, since I figured I could keep bashing my head against the dumb tpvp metagame with what few pug groups I could find that weren’t terrible, or I could get some moneys worth out of the game and finish up some of the PvE content I’d skipped so I could see if there was any fun to be had roaming WvW solo (a bit, but heh – finding a balanced, challenging fight is pretty hard).

I’d be willing to bet that the window for gaining critical mass has closed, and while there will certainly be a core fanbase playing for some time to come, the game is unlikely to achieve the esport status the developers hoped for.

League of Legends.

Took a year to become esport-ready, and much longer to become the #1 esport in the world.

In the first few months, class balance changes, format changes, etc.

People will be back.

The moment the game gets spectator mode and other esport-friendly changes, people will be back and/or new people will take the glory.

5v5 hotjoin

pvp daily

small steps class balance changes

this is the right way to start

ahaha so true

So many whiners.

Just leave for a while and play something else.

You’ll be back soon enough

Just checking if everyone agrees with the intent of this.

I understand it’s to get people to play sPVP every day, you only need to do 3 matches really to complete the daily.

It’s a good idea to get everyone doing sPVP but shouldn’t there be a bit more to it?

Same here really.

It’s just a backpack (there seems to always be a new backpack with these new events) and a couple of rings.

If anything, it’s just a nice little thing to look forward to.

Complaining about OP mesmer and thief …. check

Plays a… guardian? Wait what?

Brutaly.6257:

The issue isnt guardians in pvp.

The issue is the survivability in pve, its insane and it removes the need to dodge and make dungeons way to easy. I think we are the only class that actually can maintank pve content by soaking up damage.

So, OP, if anything needs to be nerfed its the pve side, not the pvp side. I think you got it all wrong.

This, except guardians have headroom to be nerfed for PVP as well. Too strong as a bunker in tournaments.

I’m guessing the simple way to do it is to reduce the self-healing or remove protection / reduce protection uptime.

Take a break for a while.

You’ll be back.

Redscope.6215:

DigitalKirin.9714:

What’s crazy is when you’ve got the Superior Runes of the Pirate on – pretty sure it’s bugged on warrior because instead of saying “Yarrr!” I just yell “For Great Justice!”

Yeah the rune makes everyone yell FGJ….kinda lame.

Would be nice if you actually shouted “Yarr!”

Does the rune of pirate shout heal as per the trait?

Trahearne = weedy melodramatic sneaky weasel

Takes credit for everything you do, and might even cry while doing it.

Agree with this.

More data is good.

This is not new:

WvW is really fun, and really well done.

I do like the idea of killspam and player names though, would be a fun addition.

Not sure how to display it in the UI, but I would welcome that.

Saidor.7028:

Hey I got my lemon for $60……

ouch you actually bought MOP, sorry dude

The apostrophe was missing on a character called O’Neill.

It’s fixed now, thank god!

No but really, I’d love to know what they changed so urgently.

Some arenanet employee should make a non-account-bound lemon and sell it to this guy

Just FYI, the total viewcount of just this thread is rapidly approaching the total playerbase of MMOs like Tera, TSW etc….

Deimos.9285:

If two ring slots and a backpack makes you not want to log in I’m pretty sure you have other issues you need to address. That said even with full ascended sets exotics will be far from useless seeing as the power increase is so minute it won’t even be noticed, the only major increase will be Agony resistance which only matters at the absolute hardest levels of the dungeon.

Um

This post says it all really

WvW is nothing to be scared of. There’s no embarrassment because your opponents don’t see your name.

And honestly, in hotjoin sPVP, no one cares how much of a noob you are.

Just play like you would on a random Call of Duty server.

AC3 is a bit rubbish sadly, and Black Ops 2 is meh :/

But yeah, $60 was one hell of a bargain, there’s really no other game with this much value for money apart from LoL.

State of the game as reality sees it:

It’s not a job guys and girls.

Log on if you want to play, if you don’t then don’t.

Do something else, you’ll be back playing soon enough.

One has to deplore a modern life where people do not have just 2 personal hours a day to pursue a hobby or interest.

Maybe robots would run society just fine. Maybe we are not that far off.

It’s one back item and a couple of rings to add a little item to strive for after releasing a major new content update.

Relax.

No need to be dogmatic and fundamentalist about the whole thing.

Simply put, it will barely have any impact at all. If anything, it’s just a little boost for the new event and dungeon.

Some servers are full. Transfer dude.

kraziefox.5697:

I just bought Guild Wars 2 for my nephew. The plan was we’d team up … afterall, this is an MMO, right?

However, my Server is FULL.

So, I WANT to team up with my nephew, but I can’t? Will my server ever be not ‘Full’?

As if the 1001 things wrong with Guild Wars 2 isn’t enough, when I do make the effort & bring in other players I am still thwarted?

Make that 1002 things wrong :-(

You could just transfer servers and join him on another server.

I actually want to get back to friends on another server but I can’t, as it is full. This is a common problem right now.

The game is just a bit full right now.

I play on a netbook

A -netbook-

That’s how easy it is to run this thing

I guess I just like spreadsheets more than most

Just play something else if you feel that way. Don’t ask others to give you reasons to play a video game. You’ll be back. Go play another game meanwhile.

Mell.4873:

xiv.7136:

Mell.4873:

Well i guess no one cares about this stuff. I wont bother with dps then.

No way, this is really useful, thanks for doing it, and we could use way more data.

Looking at this has some surprising results, didn’t realise mesmer could do so much healing.

Yeah i knew it high because i did alot of pvp with them. i also spotted the eng high hps in pvp.
Really as far as i can see eng has the best self heals while the guardian has the best team heals.

I was originally going to do a more spread sheet fashion with like a Regen line and stuff. This would take a lot longer and would be of little use. There are not that many healing skills so i though this would be simpler

I’m concerned about the delves with healing power as well, still looking over the spreadsheet until I get a good handle on it – but from cursory watching, this is where several classes that might have been able to put out considerable healing are actually handcuffed, +healing power doesn’t seem to add enough to beef up their heals.

Also guardian results are surprising.

Mell.4873:

Well i guess no one cares about this stuff. I wont bother with dps then.

No way, this is really useful, thanks for doing it, and we could use way more data.

Looking at this has some surprising results, didn’t realise mesmer could do so much healing.

Servers are full, game is successful.

What else is there to know.

Play if you want to, if you don’t then don’t.

If you understand the meta, you will realise why condition / toughness / vitality would be OP.

It allows for perfect min-maxing.

Same with vitality / toughness / healing

I like it too, not having to gear grind to be viable is excellent.

Rat race for gear is so 2004.

Endgame = having fun.

Unlike other MMOs where it’s just grind just in order to not get 2-shotted by no-lifers.

It’s Q3 numbers, so anything past early September isn’t even on there, that’s pretty much only pre-orders and release sales.

Game is packed. Friends list is full. Still see lowbies everywhere who are new to the game when levelling my lowbie ele.

Just because they are not in the same area as you at 4am doesn’t mean they aren’t there.

Earn your $ forum trolls.

azmodeus.3409:

there is still a large influx of people joining the game…

yep

you can see it from the large numbers of total newbies asking basic questions in the low level areas, they’re everywhere

Slow people won’t be happy until the game is slowed down enough for them to react.

great stuff, gj

Game is packed with people. What to do.

Piken for EU RP, but when you do WvW for Piken, make sure you push for the win, it’s a dedicated WvW server too

Piken, still packed, still busy – and it’s one of the lower pop servers