Guardian Test
01 Do you think guardian is underpowered and needs more HP;
—— If yes, go to 02
—— If no, go to 03
02 You have no idea how to play a guardian
—— If you are willing to improve, go to 04
—— If you are not willing to improve, go to 05
03 You understand the importance of regen, dodge heals, aegis, protection, condition removal, blind, etc, go to 06
04 Read up on some of the builds and learn to use the myriad of mitigation abilities guardians have, a 13k HP guardian is more survivable than a 25k HP warrior, by a long stretch
05 Fail
06 Well done, now go out there and pwn
Staff ele in wvw
20-25 FG guild warband vs zergs and other guild warbands like RG, VOTF, Nuke etc.
0/10/0/30/30 bunker staff, gear: 20%PVT / 50%knight / 30%cavalier
Support damage with priority on healing fields and AOE CC at specific times
Summary of this thread:
I "lol"ed hard
best part is it works for nearly every matchup thread ever written
GH plucky underdogs.
Riverside lag-siege-blob-easylootbags.
Piken best most handsome.
I also like pizza.
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It’s kind of funny how people don’t seem to understand how broken retaliation is right now in wvw (in the maps where it hasn’ t been nerfed yet)
Simply put, if you haven’t noticed what a ridiculous amount of damage retal does, it’s because you’re not really contributing to the fight.
You’re probably doing l33t single target dps against that one guy in the 40 vs 40 fight. Then yeah, you won’t notice retal.
Actually, XIV, far from it. I’m a ranger – almost 23K HP, 1546 Toughness, 2610 Armor, and use Longbow and GS primarily. I use barrage as much as possilbe, AOEing in zergs regularly with it. I average 45 – 60 kills per hour. (I believe that’s pretty decent. Lvl 78 Major with 23,328 WvW kills atm that I’ve contributed to.) And I play on EB and the BLs.
I use healing spring, signet of stone and food to deal with damage. And, no, retaliation is not a big deal for me.
A guardian is a pin cushion just like anybody else – in a zerg or otherwise! ;-)
Moonlight Wish – GoM
Well done on your pro dolyak kills
You don’t understand how the game works
I’ll let the cat out of the bag for the hell of it
ball up, 25 stacks of might, light fields, blast finishers
it’s pretty much broken OP, and there’s no counter to it
Riverside WvW Player Decision Algorithm
01 Move with zerg
02 Can you build an arrowcart;
—————if Yes GoTo 03;
—————if No GoTo 01
03 Build Arrowcart
04 Use Arrowcart
I like sandwiches
It’s kind of funny how people don’t seem to understand how broken retaliation is right now in wvw (in the maps where it hasn’ t been nerfed yet)
Simply put, if you haven’t noticed what a ridiculous amount of damage retal does, it’s because you’re not really contributing to the fight.
You’re probably doing l33t single target dps against that one guy in the 40 vs 40 fight. Then yeah, you won’t notice retal.
there’s gotta be a way to have more arrowcarts
Gear is soldiers everything
Stopped skip-reading there.
If you read somewhat further you’ll understand why I use PTV gear. Its because of the channeling time + you have to stay still for casting the AOE.
for PVE, don’t need PVT at all – if you’re getting downed a lot in dungeons/fractals, you gotta rethink what you’re doing
for WvW, half PVT as staff is fine, if you’re not a total baddie you can add in some other stuff
there’s only 2 things you need to stand still for: meteor shower (just time it carefully) and water 5 (it’s short cast), rest is all on the move anyway
you don’t need full PVT gear
I have to agree in general PvE content you dont need as much PTV if you can dodge and position. Except higher level Fractals and Arah
I have to disagree on the frostbow´s AOE have to stand still.
What gear would you suggest for this build, and why?
it sounds like you’re mainly doing PVE, as ranged staff ele
for that I’d recommend something like zerker overall with PVT chest/legs/helm – mixed with as much valkyrie as you feel you need to stay safe, don’t need much more than that
Gear is soldiers everything
Stopped skip-reading there.
If you read somewhat further you’ll understand why I use PTV gear. Its because of the channeling time + you have to stay still for casting the AOE.
for PVE, don’t need PVT at all – if you’re getting downed a lot in dungeons/fractals, you gotta rethink what you’re doing
for WvW, half PVT as staff is fine, if you’re not a total baddie you can add in some other stuff
there’s only 2 things you need to stand still for: meteor shower (just time it carefully) and water 5 (it’s short cast), rest is all on the move anyway
you don’t need full PVT gear
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Yeah the build is pretty common, I was curious about the gear you use with it
Thanks.
oh I see
it’s
- PVT armor (skinned to look like COF, because you can never have enough flames and spikes in MMO armor)
- cavalier accessories and amulet
-knights rings
- knights weapon
- beryl/ruby jewels
- 3×2 boon duration runes (2 monk, 2 water etc) as I used to run D/D
- sigil of bloodlust
Can you share your build?
http://intothemists.com/calc/?build=-k;4BJ-V015sMkY0;9;59-TT;15;342A47A;9;5k91j
it’s the very basic bunker staff build as in the title
0/10/0/30/30 with cantrips, I switch out the 3rd cantrip depending on situation
standard 10 air, evasive arcana, cleansing water or aurashare
I switch out the water stuff sometimes to get more dps at the cost of condi removal
I should specify what the video is, since WvW is often confusing visually.
This is a Forsaken Gamers guild group of around 25, fighting in Borderlands rather than EB, which most guilds agree to leave to pugs with pug commanders.
The video is mostly fights against other organised guilds like Red Guard, BuLL, Nuke, Second Law, etc. but also against larger less organised zergs.
We run with our own guild and roam. Sometimes other friendlies are around, this can’t be prevented; they usually just stand around the edges and get downed, giving the opponent free rallies. Sometimes other guilds are around like VII, we roam separately but sometimes paths cross, just the nature of WvW.
My task throughout the video is to drop fields to support the warband – for might, healing, cc, chill, etc. – and to do AOE dps.
Everything staff ele’s do is “spamming AOE”.
That’s kind of how the class works.
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Just some staff ele gameplay with whatever music I was listening to at the time
FG guild group of 20-25 roaming WvW, mostly fights against other organised guilds like Red Guard, BuLL, Nuke, Second Law, etc. but also against larger less organised zergs.
Build is 0/10/0/30/30 bunkerish, knights/cavalier/pvt mix
Hope it’s entertaining and you enjoy it!
Post feedback
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http://youtu.be/9EOyepvfMBE?t=7s
this is why we can’t have nice things
Nerf the hard hitters and then give them more gap closers, conditions protection and CC.
All the kitten like hundred blades and such is just dragging warriors down, because as long as theoretically they can do like 12k bursts every 8 seconds, they can’t really be buffed.
Slash the theoretical output by 30% and then add more NON-DAMAGING abilities to either sustain himself longer or control the fight more.
Although I agree with you, I think the argument to make would be: that’s what a guardian is.
I think the challenge is to make the warrior a viable, solid melee – but without turning it into a guardian.
I think guardian with regen + prot + aegis + cc, etc all combined has too much, and in turn warrior has too little. That’s the core of the problem.
- kill shot same animation as auto-attack, no crouching and can be done on the move
- hundred blades causes distortion like blurred frenzy
- mending removes all conditions, rest same
- trait for +50% damage on immobilised targets for that “burst class” feel
Here is how I define it:
Think about which type of player you want to play with.
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I have something similar but dropped pure of voice and went over to absolute resolution to remove conditions and make the passive stronger on voResolve
Makes for much better condition removal when you need it (lots of condis and need a quick heal), and improves boon duration from the traitline which helps for group play
It doesn’t seem like much, but it helps both the long run sustain and the quick recovery when overloaded with condis which happens a lot in wvw – with the side benefit of adding more retal when activating virtues, it all meshes well together.
Also what if all shouts broke stuns, removed a condition and applied regeneration and vigor, and shieldstance/endurepain prevented condition damage, and mending removed all conditions, and dodging turned you into optimus prime
+1
Looks like the ball is starting to roll now
Lots of people got burned on lack of pvp stream views in the past, but it’s never too late, time to drop the past and move forward, call up that contacts list and make it happen
I fink proper punction and spellink is a siggn of arrogance like wtf I mean lolz xD
The best warrior build below:
I would start with
This build gives you a ton of healing and front line staying power. Get that symbol down from the Auto Attack Chain and live in it. Note the runes and increased symbol duration as this keeps your Protection going. You can also throw on the Signet of Judgement with Protection for 43% damage reduction all the time. Other melee will benefit from your Symbols also.
I run Zerker gear here because the damage reduction takes care of you quite a bit. Mix in some Soldiers if you feel you need to.
This build also supports GSword and Staff quite well. It doesn’t have the highest DPS but its not bad.
After you get used to Hammer you can move into a higher DPS build quite easily.
Here’s something interesting about [TIA] from Riverside.
Gandara were also complaining about them glitching into keeps etc
However as mentioned above TIA took a tower in our BL’s by glitching into it. Auroura Glade were attacking the door I ran over to start a defence but 3 or 4 TIA were already at the lord and capped it…nothing down they did it under cover of AG catapult attacks….they also capped Greenlake Tower also but I dont think we had anybody there to confirm if it was legit. They were spotted in Hills Lord room but they ported when we spotted them before anything kicked off and the were also spotted in bay as mentioned above.
And again:
Have fun everyone! The reset was awesome and pretty balanced! Riverside seems like a very dedicated server with more coverage than Gandara and AG tho! We’ll see how it goes! hopefully we have some nice fights!
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Just a heads up! As i don’t want any drama in here so i keep it short. But keep an eye out for a guild called TIA (Riverside). I think they are called “Tyrian Intelligence Agency” and i noticed that they enjoy scouting a lot. Pretty awesome guild concept tbh! But anyways, they were found in our Bay, in the walls and also in the ground. They didn’t capture our Bay but that could be because we had about 4 of ours inside as well, noticing their movements under the ground. We are not accusing them because we don’t know if they actually glitch capped anything yet but please, keep an eye out! They left the Bay later! <3
Bad screenshot: http://i48.tinypic.com/10z90yu.jpg
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Have fun everyone!
Colin Johanson talks about upcoming Super Adventure Box Tournaments: PVP maps, Jumping Puzzle Conquest, Turtle Demolition and more!
I know what you mean.
I was actually a kid/young teen in the 80s, with the first nintendo NES etc
This brings back a lot of old, wonderful feelings.
Amazing, genius job here Arenanet.
Us oldies who lived that era thank you for such a creative, heartfelt and fun april fools box of super adventure.
This is the biggest april fools thing I’ve ever seen.
It’s simply utter genius, the best retro cool 80s stuff I’ve seen in a while.
I mean compare it to what WoW is doing for example this april 1st, that’s so boring and unfun, it’s like their creativity and sense of fun was sucked out and stolen by Arenanet.
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Same guys, trying to stir up arguments, they post, month after month complaining.
Really, take a chill break.
People are loving the april 1st stuff. If you don’t, that’s fine, go do something else and come back later.
Same people in every post, trying to stir up arguments.
Give it a rest, the game is fun and people are loving it.
Everything is packed, it’s a party, either join it or go take a chill break somewhere.
Don’t be boring people.
Get a sense of humour it’s April 1st.
If you don’t want a sense of humour, fine, but you’re missing out.
They’ve added an internal cooldown on Empowering Might and Altrustic Healing procs, either 9s or 10s (tested in mists) just like the weapon sigils
According to inside source, other changes:
- RTL requires a target to work
- damage of auto-attacks increased for staff and dagger
- mist form and flash no longer break stun
This is going to be patched in tomorrow with original stealth change from SOTG, should help warriors a lot to gain ele-like condi removal at the cost of adrenaline.
It’s not bad looking, check the front page, has a link to the tourney leaderboards with ratings.
Also, if you’re in party with someone there’s a new /duel option with right click on portrait.
TLDR version:
My server’s private parts are bigger than your server’s private parts.
That why you run away / wipe / zerg / QQ all the time.
error 42:1020 etc as above
something’s up
I’ve been playing staff lately.
As long as you don’t tunnel vision an attunement and make sure you’re in situations where ranged AOE is useful in some way, it’s really an excellent weapon.
Yes, you don’t have the 1v1 capability of D/D or S/D. Yes, you don’t have the escapes and mobility.
What staff ele does is provide the highest level of both survivability and damage support of any class, and used properly tools like static field, frozen/unsteady ground can make a big difference.
The key is to not focus on one thing. As an ele, use a combination of every attunement, all the time.
Everyone throwing in pretty numbers. I am not even looking at the math because my jaw is on the ground.
No one here that is saying to change RtL is giving anything that will compensate for our loss. Think about this. How long will it take for people to get use to cripple/immobilize/chill the ele before an RtL? Do you honestly think we can go toe to toe with others.
WTF ARE YOU NOT TALKING ABOUT OUR HEALING!!!! WHY RtL.
This post seems like a bunch of warriors who just want to smash something. The people who grew up thinking magic is for wimps. There daddy was a warrior in ultima online, and they are carring on the torch.
Please think about what you are saying. You are going to kill the class. We already have bad damage compared to others. We have low hp and armor. And now you taking away our ability to escape every now and again for free kills. IS THAT REALLY FUN FOR YOU? I bet there are some twisted people here that just want mages to que up then do nothing but yell in chat free kills free kills while dancing and harlem shake videos playing on their 2nd monitor and bacon in their mouth.
Get real. If you can’t compensate for a significant loss as your guys are asking, then cut the kitten and ask for arenanet to just remove ele all together.
Calm down man.
Ele’s are overpowered right now.
Until you realise this, you aren’t really going to be able to make sound balance decisions.
When comparing warrior and ele mobility you have to add this in:
-While crippled
When crippled (which is 24/7 against good opponents) warrior movement skills get halved in range:
Warrior Rush -> Bull’s Charge (range is actually 900) -> Whirlwind Attack -> swap to sword and Savage Leap
Total range covered 1200 + 900 + 450 +600 = 3,150 / 2 = 1575 in 4 seconds total time
Elementalist RtL -> Burning Speed -> Lightning Flash
Total range covered 1200 + 600 + 900 = 2,700 Total time 3 seconds
Now you see the difference.
The other way would be to reduce the range of burning speed/RTL and even lightning flash range by 50% when crippled to make it more even.
You see the problem. The problem is not the range, it’s the immunities. Immobilise is the only counter really and ele does have incredible condi removal, so perhaps warrior skills should also remove all movement conditions while doing their thing?
Or make RTL affected by slows/chills/stuns/etc for its full duration.
Personally, my escape sequence is always the same: cantrip flash into RTL (cantrips remove condis in my spec)
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Either go standard mouse and ZXCV for attunements (1-5 for weapon skills)
or
Naga Hex 1-5 weapon skills, 1-4 on keyboard for attunements, utilities etc QERTG
Best MMO, yes.
Best game, that’s just not a possible judgement to make, you can’t compare say Tetris with Counterstrike, they’re just too different. It’s like comparing Brahms with Spice Girls, or opera with sex in the city.
Comparing like for like, compared to other MMOs with hotbars and such, yes, ok, GW2 makes the other games look plain bad.
NOW = no.
In upcoming patches will Warriors see some changes? = yes.
Are you doing it right? = no.
Do you need to drastically change your policy and start moving quickly? = yes.
Meh, I played axe/mace warrior with no issues. Sword/shield for 2nd set for added utility and control. I didn’t play at the top level though, but either did 95% of the other people claiming to.
Go duel a great sword dps guardian on your great sword warrior 100 times. You could win 99 of them with nothing but an amulet on.
You’re obviously a terrible guardian. Sidenote: GS is good for hybrid builds and not in any way viable for a full dps guard. A full dps guard brings scepter/torch and sword/focus. Which means imboilize, blind and block. it’s too easy to stay in range.
Now look at GS. That means you wanna get into close-range to every opponent AS A GC. That makes not any sense.PS: if you loose as a guard to a warrior you should stop playing guardian and go ele instead.
This
I agree with all of the above.
The real take-away is that not much has changed – read not enough has changed
We need more updates, more changes, and faster.
The philosophy of “we’ll make 2 tiny changes and wait a month to see the results” is not going to work any more.
It’s time to pull up your socks and do a lot of changes to really push the meta out.
I think u guys (the dedicated warriors) should come up with some good ideas of how to improve the current state of warrior, who knows maybe they actually like some ideas and implement them.
No.
We made suggestions.
They were ignored.
No one asked for a kick buff. No one asked for passive stat boosts on banners to be increased.
People have made a lot of good suggestions, but we are being ignored right now.
I’ve always been a major defender of the game because it just plays so kitten well and looks great.
But right now, I am very disappointed with the s/tPVP outlook, the laziness of actual implementation, and the downright incompetent class balancing.