Around 2 months ye. Around 4 hours per week in a semi decent group.
And that’s why Raid armor is easy mode legendary……….
Unlike the wvw armor the pve one require the basic iq check to obtain.
I’d argue that getting WvW legendary armor requires more iq that buying yourself a way to be carried througth some raids…..
at least when we are talking in anyhow sensible timeframe – cause even if one is dumbest person ever, if he throws years of time into getting “legendary” piece I’d say he deserves it…..
Yeah but dedication doesnt mean skill required. Yes someone can buy the whole lwgendary armor but that will take him an EXTREME amount of gold.
Iirc there are some special spots in squads that you can share the squad’s participation without being near . So in theory you could buy the wvw system as well.
Gulling.. don’t let this break you. Do other stuff and play other thing in the game .. or maybe come back again later when most ppl master it better.. we used to do 100cm for holo dancer and the core where I can sell for gold. But later stop doing it.. don’t hv the patience for it. And the effort.
Oh btw Dessa is Arkk’s mom?? ol
Ty for cheering me up! I will not be broken that easily, I come from a land where we have -40 Celsius in the winter. Though I love fractals so much and I don´t know what else I should do in the game. Kind of like loosing a very dear friend.
Ps) Arkks dad is that eye from Lord of the rings. He is scared of his son.
While English may not be your native tongue, I found your narrative to be compelling and interesting. There were strong indications that despite the frustration, you are trying (and succeeding, unless I miss my guess) to make lemonade out of the Arkk lemon. Were you to want advice, I’d suggest focusing on the tongue in cheek rather than the frustration. Regardless, if you do decide to move on, I hope you find other challenges and fun wherever you go. If you decide to stay, there is no problem with foregoing something you don’t enjoy in favor of doing the paths you do enjoy.
P. S. I hope your arm gets better soon.
You might just be…spot on
I have almost returned to normal state now, though I can only play games that fit my patience when it comes to wiping (Candy Crush, Super Mario Bros 1). Also on the positive note – I now know who will be my mental opponent on future boxing-classes.
Arm is much better, ty so much for asking. I bet you are the kind of player that can cheer up any pug in no time on a rainy day!
@Gullig Man ill tell you what i did after the first day i tried it (wiped on arkk for like 3 hours) i decided ti leave the boss and w8 for ppl to learn the fight better. In the mean time i watched some kills on youtube and ask for advise from the ppl that aploaded them. A week or 2 after i went in and was better at it than even ppl who had the title.
Ty for the tip. I watched the Youtube-fights a few times before trying 100cm for the first time, but Arkk just kept on killing us anyway. For days. It´s them one shot abilities that I remember so well from my time in Wow. They will always kill pug-players, someone will always rage, a keyboard or two breaks on a regular basis. Everyone like me and their cats have a horrible time on those conditions. I´m very happy for you, and all the rest who got the title though! I hope this fractal is for you and that it gives you the same pleasure as Chaos, aka “DISCO FLOOR FOREVER!”, fractal gave me.
I wouldnt call ot the chaos fractal 2.0 as its not as cancerous as chaos is. And tbh f they fix the anomaly spawn the the disapearing floor is ok imo
Why compaire fractals to raids based on gold per hour? Raids are 1 time thing once per week and fractals once per day.
Compairing it with gold per hour is irrelevant. Raids need to have a higher burst of gold because you run them weekly.
Open world is open world you trade low enegangement/ enjoyment for higher return. I can do f40 all day and make 40g/h but i wont do that necause its boring. T4 and cms are fast engaging and give ok g9ld for the time you spend.
Why compaire fractals to raids based on gold per hour? Raids are 1 time thing once per week and fractals once per day.
Compairing it with gold per hour os irrelevant. Rads need to have a higher burst of gold because tou rune them weekly.
Open world is open world you trade low enegangement/ enjoyment for higher return. I can do f40 all day and make 40g/h but i wont do that necause its boring. T4 and cms are fast engaging and give ok g9ld for the time you spend.
Nobody forces ppl to run raids if they feel like it not fun for them if it feel like a job. You dont have to keep up with anyone thats the good thing about gw2.
Well yeah but the issue woud be if gw2 was a raid centric game like all those game. Thing is gw2 is not a raid centric game. Raiding is a nice and if you wonna get ito it you gotta understand how that niche works.
So basically, before the teleport didn’t happen because two bugs countered each other. Then one bug got fixed and it revealed the presence of another bug.
Yeah this kinda stuff is why fixing bugs in a codebase with millions of lines of code is always scary. Sometimes its better to NOT fix a bug :P
Do you have an example of a bug that if fixed could mess up a diff something else?
When designers play “Attached” effects on a creature, the effect is actually rotated 180 degrees the wrong way due to a code bug. So artists and designers would manually rotate the effect to work. But since there are already thousands of attached effects, fixing this bug would break all of those effects.
Granted, with some work you could probably make a clever python script to find all references to all attached effects and manually do some kind of fixup along with the patch, but it will still break for people working in different code streams than the main one that you do your fixes in.
The fix is in the arkk balance patch. Just wait a day.
Lol. You are amazing for taking the time to interact with us like this and tell us great stories. You should seriously consider running a mini blog where you just post stuff like this to it.
I second this. Even if it’s not always a strange bug of the month blog. This was a fun read.
@Gullig Man ill tell you what i did after the first day i tried it (wiped on arkk for like 3 hours) i decided ti leave the boss and w8 for ppl to learn the fight better. In the mean time i watched some kills on youtube and ask for advise from the ppl that aploaded them. A week or 2 after i went in and was better at it than even ppl who had the title.
Even with all that amount of dodge power (wich should be insane, other classes have only half, or less amount of dodges), I took 9000 lightning beam damage, cause of the big amount of adds AND enrage that triggers on all of them. I also had lots of interrupts and blinds going. All useless.
If you are getting hit by the lightning beam, it’s because you failed to focus down the large Viirastra clones. The whole point of those is that you aren’t supposed to leave them up, in fact they even have break bars so you can break them and burst them immediately when they spawn. She only spawns one of these every 45 seconds or so if you do the marble right. To me it sounds like your group just isn’t properly executing the mechanics, as in my experience Viirastra is pretty simple when everyone is on point, regardless of comp, especially considering you get a free res every transition.
Then there’s a mystery for me. Cause my observations. They cast smaller versions apon dying. The speed in wich they die, doesn’t remove the clones they summon. I will try this on next attempt. There were times i insantly spiked 15000 condi damage on an elite, and still had 5+ smaller ones get summoned.
But maybe there’s hope. Ty for your response I asked plenty people why the adds summon or how to do visaastra and nobody ever mentioned a prevention tactic of preventing adds. Maybe there’s secret after all to make Arkk doable as nightmare. Thanks for still reading and responding. That’s a very positive thing.
Only the big mobs cast the lightning attack once you kill them all the smaler ones are melee so you simply let them follow you on boss and y9u cleave eveything down.
I am of the opinion, fractals should be fractals, and raid raids. If you wanna spoil raid people, make 20 raids a year, but leave fractals alone.
Your suggestion: Don’t d CM Arkk. Don’t make me laugh. Seriously. I avoided it as the pest cause i knew it would be out of my league so l already tried normal. Guess what with 5 people that play well but ABSOLUTELY are not meta (just a correct build that can do any not CM fractal), we couldnt even get past a pre-boss. And after deep analize, ‘are we that bad, is their a secret like in CM we will learn in future to survive better’? Conclusion: 90% certain: No. In Nightmare there is the aoe marker on the second last boss that looks innocent, but summons a very annoying elite add. That’s a secret you learn after 10-20 times. And make suddenly all the way easier. Visaastra is to chaotic for ‘easy’ ‘tactical overcoming’ her power. For instance, all adds case lightning beam. Even as a thief (i tested in on purpose) spamming all dodges of the world (until i was dry out, but party was half dead, so was good moment to test), Even with all that amount of dodge power (wich should be insane, other classes have only half, or less amount of dodges), I took 9000 lightning beam damage, cause of the big amount of adds AND enrage that triggers on all of them. I also had lots of interrupts and blinds going. All useless.
So all these people talking it’s easy like hell, i can only conclude they are addicted (rely an insane amount on) Druid and Chrono heal/support spam. That already pre-concludes the new elite specs won’t put a dent in the fractal meta, and will make it even more boring. Groups that use Chrono/druid to succes (non CM version) are in my opinions non ethical enough to be able to call on this forum the opinion ‘this fractal is easy’. Ofc it’s easy. This profession combo, doubles overall your survivability and effectiveness. Other fractals (even nightmare now) do not rely on the druid/chrono meta. I still need to see proof, that Arkk is similar.
Another thing that comes to mind. At start of nightmare, not everyone had fractal potions. Now everyone serious has them. I remember being very mad for the dodge heavy pressure of last boss, when i only had two dodges; I needed to equip vigor to survive. With the potion the fractal got easier. We got powercreep to counter the harder fractal.
This is not the cast for Arkk. There is no powercreep left, and you now sort of require another +1 dodge in Visaastra (and Arkk to from what i’ve seen on youtube). That means 4 dodges on a 10 second interval. Yes you can kill 1 dodge with druid heal spam. Yes classes like warrior that can use GS3 basically also have +1 dodge.
The groups that avoid 100 and 99 avoid them by choice. No one told them to not do them they decided so.
What does it mean leave raids be raods and leave fractals ne fractals? Raids have stopped being actual raids since w3 because they were “too hard”. Same with the fractals some fractals got harder because oreviously fractals were a ded boring joke.
And explain to me about what fractals are supposed to be? How do you know better than te devs or other ppl? Back in 2013 the devs didnt know how to make well polished content ( no offence but its true). Now that they managed ppl sudenly complain.
Who are you to say fractals arent supposed to be hard or fractals are supposed to be easy? If it wasnt for these imo more enjoyable fractaps i would have quit the game ages ago.
The cm is clearly outside the t4 circle it doesnt infuence anything. Therefor why complaining about it?
Im ok anout nerfing normal 99 and 100 but if the cms arent targeted to you why do you come here and tell the devs and players who do like them how they are supposed to be?
The second boss is litterally 2 things no1 kill the big adds no2 lead the adds to the boss and cleave.
After the first phase tou sent someone who can do the marble to do it while you repeat these 2 steps.
Argueably the cms have great rewards considering you can do them daily. You compaire the cm rewards to the raid once. Thats fine but do it properly x7 cm rewards and 1x raid rewards.
Now, i wouldnt mind if cm also gave 1g on top of the already existing rewards. But im in no place to say if thats a good idea over all. You also aprea to compaire cms to pre nerf dungeons. Pre nerf dungeons were not balanced properly. The rewards were way to good hence why they were nerfed.
Both cms have rarer drops that translate into alot of gold (100 spores, mystic coins etc and for 100cm 2 infusions that go for alot in the tp)
Also just because we had no raids doesnt mean now thay we have that the gw2 raids are like the raids in other games.
Well, some of the problems that raids carry with them were brought along to gw2, because, unfortunately, they are inherent to the gamemode.
Ranked que also brought its problems in pvp
Since i’m not really a pvp person, i can’t say anything about it, but it’s definitely possible you’re right. Not sure how that has anything to do with the topic at hand however.
That not everything that is indroduced will be accepted by everyone and wont have flaws in the eyes of some.
Being someone who hasn’t raided previously in GW2, I’d like to get into it. But honestly the vibe I have gotten across the board has been that its pretty much out of the question unless you are lucky enough to find a “training” group. I looked in LFG and it was pretty much only wanting exp players.
Am I missing that much if I don’t get to experience raiding?
My main gripe is about raids is the same as dungeons and fractals. To many high strung types are drawn to them. ANet seems to go out of their way to lock content and rewards behind forced multi-player instances because they assume everyone wants or should to be social. PvE is about as social as many people want to be. Going into pressure cooker instances is very stressful for some people like myself. Plus there is finding people to join a group when your ready to play.
It’s easy for some people to say that you don’t have to do it but if you want specific achievements, unlocks or rewards it’s your only choice.
I unfortunately have had to do Ascalonian Catacombs so I can get Ascalonian Tears to make the Nightfury Skin. My experiences haven’t been the best.
I really wish ANet would give us a version of heroes (controlled NPCs) like GW1 that we can use for dungeons and raids. You could fill the player slots with real players or heroes. If we could use our own characters for the hero slots we could equip and build them to our needs.
I dont wonna see any other mind wrecking, tear generating, Noghtmare producing mesmer spec tbh. I want a power spec for the next expac pls arena nito.
Think of it as an act you see mismirs run around all fancy and good looking. Then, when you kitten off one they reveal they actually are condi and the proceed to destroy your sould your will to live give you nightmares make you too scared to look under your bed etc etc
Its all an act mesmers are the teemos of gw2 just good looking.
Actually sword looks ok. It does its thing and it further rewardsnyou fi you manage to melee with it. If they make phantasms and clones be affected by might and boons then this could be ok.
And the eye icon on Arkk is way too high above his head.
I will say one of the only things i’d love to see changed is the forced camera postion reset on wipe.
Can we not do this ever ?
Other than this one very minor gripe the fractal is enjoyable
Forced camera position reset?
Basically resets camera to just above character head. Which for this fractal is annoying with the amount of things showcased above head level.
You mean:when you are in a boss fight when the camera will zoom out abit? Or its something diff? If so many mechanics happen above head lvl then the game putting the camera above head lvl should be good no?
Around 2 months ye. Around 4 hours per week in a semi decent group.
And that’s why Raid armor is easy mode legendary……….
No kidding, and when I look at this thread in conjunction with the PiP thread, I see hoards of complaints on the time it takes to acquire tickets. Apparently when raids came out, some people had the legendary in the first day!
No PvE person should be complaining about this at all, if anything, it’s weighted towards raids being the easy mode towards the path of a legendary. The time to acquire this armor in WvW is insane, and that’s even for vets; imagine a newbie joining WvW how long it’d take them.
It’s easy to compare, take a group noobs to raids and figure how long it’d take them to acquire the legendary. As I said, some people had it in the first day. Once they’ve figured out the boss fights, it should be relatively easy for them take down the bosses 90% of the time on each encounter.
Take that same group of noobs now and stick them in WvW. There are far more factors at play dictating their path towards a legendary:
- How long will it take them to figure out the best builds and composition
- Are they naturally good in a PvP style environment or is there a big learning curve
- Are they facing another group with better composition and are simply just better
- Is the other group simply bigger, takes all their stuff, then prevents them from retaking (no participation)
- Does the other group spawn camp them because they are simply bored and find them as easy targets
- Are you getting double teamed
- Time requirements, especially for someone new to WvW (hence the other PiP thread and all the complaints)
What PvE’ers have to realize it’s simply not a case of following a zerg and pressing 1 (well maybe if they are on BG), but the rest of the servers, forget it. A smaller coordinated group who knows what they’re doing will annihilate a bigger zerg group pressing 1 whom doesn’t know what they are doing.
There are far too many factors at play affecting progress, and it wouldn’t matter how skilled they are.
The ppl that had the legendary armor in 1 days raided since release and thats a year+. For a game that requires not a whole lot of your time soending 20 hours per week in wvw is plain bad and demotivating.
It could be considered insulting to the competitive community that the new expansion contains no WvW or PvP content at all, and that the only new WvW feature announced for WvW is something taken out of the previous expansion…
I mean, whatever Anet want’s it’s their business, but it’s not going to convince me, someone who was part of the exiled GvG community, to come back to a game and buy an expansion just to get the elite spec of my main class.
You need to do WAY more still. Starting with a serious player and guild ranking system and complete merging of all maps and servers.
You do realise tha locking wvw gamemodes maps or diff kinds of food and armor behind an exoac would split the playerbase right?
Look at ESO they have the rvr settup in the base game and for the only for of competitive spvp you need to buy their “Chapter”.
They moght not be massive updates but anet is providing then for free to all players so the players base wont be split between the locked bihind the various expacs content.
Making the cms a t5 without reqards would kill the replayabulity. The fact that you can kill two birds with one stone if you want to run the cm of a daily t4 is really good. If some ppl can tdo the cm they can do the normal and if some ppl can do the ck they dont need to waste time doing the fractal twice.
I believe the t4 is in a good spot. That can be argued and in alot of ppl’s minds it might need a nerf. Idk if the devs believe normal 100 should be nerf then sure. But the cm mode should remain the same minus the bugs.
The cm rewards are really good for the effort ppl put in and ot exists outside the t4 rotation. The fact that its harder than raids is not the cm’s problem its the raid teams problem for delivering underwhelming bosses.
Im honestly speechless how ppl still fail skulls. Theres a huge ring that apreas then someone get the skull on them and then a message on their screen apears telling them " you have the bomb go to the safezone".
Raids being elitist is kind of the point and why I think they are a mismatch for GW’s casual design style. I hope they’ll ditch them, and they’ll ad some alternative way to get legendary armor.
Glad no mention (that I have seen) of raids for the new expansion so far.
Lol theres elitism everywhere in gw2 since the begining.
As it seems now and a power build would be viable/optimal for holosmith.
Would you expect it to use sword/pistol or would it use rifle?
Not sure honestly there arent many great off hand options. Also this thread belong in the engi sub forum there you will have a better discussion about the possible playstypes.
Why not just be zoomed out? I play with zommed out because more area vision. Also if i happen to get hit by 1 gavity aoe then i simply special action key my way out of it. Also arkk has an animation when he does the attack.
The solution seems simple to me, there should be dyes that are glossy, that way people can choose what they want. Why is glossy restrained to the armor? Isn’t the dye system in place to offer us these choices?
Of the people I know who have legendary armor, more of them have re-skinned it (including myself) rather than wear it. So if what matters is if people are using it anyways, then it is quantifiable failing by that metric. This particular set fails to deliver on being Legendary because it doesn’t dye right.
I agree with the first point, they should continue to pump out more dyes, and maybe at some point set up a dye that’s more compatible with glossy armor.
I’m willing to gamble that the Legendary Armor getting reskinned was more likely because of the base design of it than the dyes. Heck, the outrage over another Trenchcoat probably made the Leather Variant the least popular, and the Light Armor was destined to fail as I cannot conceive of a theme for Light armor that fits Elementalists, Necromancers, AND Mesmers at the same time.
But for what it is worth, just like how Legendary Weapons are hit and miss, a Legendary Item has various reasons for being Legendary, and stat-swapping is probably the most universally accepted reason regardless of how ironically painful it would be to constantly swap out runes instead of pieces of ascended. This means that even the ‘Joke’ Legendaries are still Legendary, I abhor the pony bow but I can accept it took time and gold to make, therefore it’s still Legendary.
Legendary light armor could work if you were able to properly dye it.
If you get too frustrated with it id take a step back, and especially if youve spent countless hours the last few days, take a few days break from this particular fractal.
I envy everyone who has a static group for fractals, as it seems to be almost undoable with pugs atm (not talking about the exp ones that require title+cosmis essences).
Also i feel like 100cm is harder than Matt (wich can be oneshotted by the average pug nowadays) and even Deimos (still well doable with the average pug). I cant really describe what it is, but in those encounters all attacks are so well telegraphed and the whole fight is so clean and coordinated, while in this fractal the fight feels just so chaotic.
Matt has been out for months if not a year and deimos in general is a very simplistic fight with 1 crusial mechanic that you have to be attention to.
I dont believe 100cm is harder than matt (prob its on par with him). But its surely as hard as deimos cm if not harder because theres not 1 attack that will kitten up your group theres multiple of them.
So basically, before the teleport didn’t happen because two bugs countered each other. Then one bug got fixed and it revealed the presence of another bug.
Yeah this kinda stuff is why fixing bugs in a codebase with millions of lines of code is always scary. Sometimes its better to NOT fix a bug :P
Do you have an example of a bug that if fixed could mess up a diff something else?
But then they’ll never learn for sure.
All I want is for people to learn and improve. I’m fine with teaching, but I’m not okay with seeing and hearing about all of the people who will not even attempt to clear fractal 25, and are actively trying to have mechanics in fractals watered down and easy to ignore due to their infrequency or lack of meaningful punishment for failing.
I dont have an issue with ppl that want to imrpove i can spend time with them and teach them about stuff. But i dont really have tolerance for ppl who just dont want to improve. Anet made this fractals to please those who wanted harder t4’s and that wont change. If ppl dont wonan do them they can ignore them or buy them.
Much like they did with dungeons back in the day. If they dont respect other ppl’s time and expect to be carried through the content then i have little respect for them.
If someone doesnt want to improve or have the time to do so you cant change that.
Did some1 already ask the actual most important question? What is with dodge jump? As I recall ‘dodge jump’ jumps a bit higher than normal jump (at least that’s what we figured when doing the adventure box thingy). So will ‘mirage cloak jump’ also jump higher?
It goes farther than a normal dodge, it doesn’t go higher than a normal jump.
Still tho iirc dodge jump helps you get to various kiting spots in pvp does this ean that mirage will just suck at it now?
Mirage should be able to straight up jump and dodge in midair while jumping. It’ll be way easier.
Well yeah i suppose you can blur mid jump but thats not what i meant.
While i was looking on guides for propper kiting and repositioning in pvp the guide said alot of jump just aint possible without the added distance of the dodgejump. Thats whay im curious about does this mean no longer dostance boost by dodgejumping?
I’m pretty certain that dodge jumping doesn’t give a distance gain over normal jumping. It protects the jump and gives a distance gain over dodging.
Then why would ppl use dodge jump skips in Sab which the normal jump cant reach?
You don’t need to do dodge jumps, lol.
Dodge jump actually give a speed/distance increase from the normal jump but it doesnt travel more than a dodge.
Ah, so what you actually care about is the rewards, preferably received without any effort on your side. I’d say “good to know”, but it’s hardly news to anyone.
What requires more effort, molten duo or shattered observatory? Which gives better rewards? Unfortunately they both give the same rewards. Do you know why arah p4, aether path, and SE p2 were never ran? Because anet never properly balanced the rewards. Proper balancing of rewards is essential to keeping content alive.
The comparison is irrelevant because of the daily rewards for fractals. If Shattered is daily and the Duo isn’t, they don’t give the same rewards. So you don’t get to choose the easier one. Do you remember when the dailies used to be 3x Swamp? This system was introduced to counter that very issue, and it did.
Furthermore, Shattered’s difficulty is comparable to Nightmare and even Chaos on normal mode. Did people stop to run these two? They didn’t. They won’t stop running Shattered either, they’ll just learn it and it will become a smoother experience, just like it did for the others.
CM is where the difficulty is amped up and – surprise, surprise – it does give better rewards.
Actually molten duo gives more karma meanwhile 100 doesnt give you any. @Ben fix the karma that fractals give pls.
Ok so some ppl dont want to learn. Thats fone for them i suppose of you want a better result tell them that they arent what you are looking for kick them and get some one better.
For instance, until last year, some player skills such as the revenant sword 2 would randomly target these skill launchers, and players would see their projectiles flying at invisible objects.
lol this is still happening with rev sword 2
I believe the update will be shipped with the balance pass in a few days.
xera is boss 3 in wing 3 she actually has a importand blurred fremzy the tank needs to block
Not all arkks attacks happen from his hotbox both bounching orb attakcs have an indicator above his hitbox same for the eye and theres a small oragne circle that apreas before the expandimg ring happens.
