Guild Wars 2

Rauderi.8706:

If they claim to know your DPS or gear, report with extreme prejudice.

You mean if they claim to know your dps AND gear. Knowing your dps with a DPS Meter is perfectly legal and it’s useless trying to report it. Only if they know your build and/or gear is it an issue that you can report them for.

Really? Now we want to ban the word minstrel? A word that has a perfectly normal meaning to it to most of the world. And I actually want Anet to make a Minstrel elite spec for Mesmers.

edit for forum bug

You don’t want anything to work like renegade SB3. That ability is terrible. First you need to be at max range for it to even do the best damage (useless for raids) and on top of that it’s bugged and doesn’t work properly on uneven terrain or if you have any sort of object blocking part of it. Which most likely means it will continue to have this “feature” for another two years or so.

Rev was never overpowered in PVE that’s for sure. They were wanted in the beginning for Natural Resonance, but after that got nerfed and they didn’t get buffed in any other way to compensate revs just disappeared from raids. Now you don’t really see them outside Deimos. Power rev is crap and while condi rev is definitely better now, there are still much better condi classes to bring over a rev. Renegade is supposed to fix this, but who knows. I am annoyed that they never reverted any of those nerfs they gave us because of pvp. With skill splitting there is no reason to not reverse those nerfs, especially with power rev being in such a bad place now.

I don’t have a problem with the idea of SB. When I first heard it was going to be that I was fine with it. Maybe because I play condi ranger and our SB works well. So I assumed renegade SB would be decent. But for god knows what reason they forgot about raiding and made attacks like SB3 work only at max range. They forgot that rev in essence is still a melee class. Their other condi set is a melee set and for raiding you need to be in melee with the rest of your group. Why they are ignoring this is anyone’s guess.

Getting into a raid will be very hard with zerker gear and that weapon set (the power ranger set is usually LB and sword/axe, but even then nobody wants power rangers these days). You can probably pug lower tier fractals with a power ranger just fine though. In open world of course you can run with whatever you want. But yeah, the gear to get for dps rangers these days is Vipers for condi ranger (with shortbow and Axe/torch). Condi is the name of the game for many classes now. But we don’t know if PoF will introduce a better condi set yet…

anduriell.6280:

in the guildchat Irenio specifically addressed the renegade where he specifically pointed out shotgun designs are not healthy for the game or the players (and he is my hero from now on because of that)

As someone who plays ranger and rev, I find his statement incredibly frustrating. I feel once again, that the devs do not know what they are doing with revs. SB3 on renegade shortbow is next to useless in a raid environment because you need to be at range to use it properly. You need these skills to work in melee range because that is where the raid is. Did they forget how raiding works or are they planning on changing it so drastically that we don’t need to be in melee anymore? So they think shotgun is not healthy, so instead they create something that’s the complete opposite and is useless. Why not just do away with these weird mechanics where you either have to be in melee to do the most damage or at range to do the most damage?

I don’t like the mantras at all, but I do enjoy the tome mechanics. Those are fun at least.

I’m not sure why they decided to make the “wells” killable. It’s a silly idea. Don’t really like how they look either.

Well, they were kind of kittens during Battle for LA. If you went to the Tengu side of old LA’s wall they would shoot at you and kill you. lol.

Mine wasn’t feared or cc’d and I still felt like the “heal” didn’t do anything.

Miku.6297:

Dextra.8162:

Miku.6297:

Dextra.8162:

Or say:

Casual T4’s, 2hr run YAY.

The attitude here is what people don’t like.

And the other half of us don’t like the attitudes of those thinking they are entitled to get rewarded for selfish play and behavior.

So let me see if I get this right, coming in to a run that has no specified rules with your own build just playing to have fun is a bad attitude? Many people who run “sub optimal” specs simply enjoy playing the game their way. Some players are unable to play at the “meta” level: a player I know had a stroke and can only use his right hand. His dps is a bit lower then others when it comes to moving and fighting, so that makes him “entitled” or his play and behavior “selfish”.

Seriously; expecting everyone to play how YOU want all the time is just as selfish if not more then then them wanting to play their way. If someone enters a run that says speed run, DPS etc then I understand. The attitude I’m referring to is the toxicity in some of the posts, and the assumption that anyone not playing “meta builds” wants to be carried for free.

It is incredibly rude if the listing specified that they want meta or speedclear exp. You know full well that these people don’t want sub-optimal specs, but you join them anyway? Yeah, that’s rude. (General you btw, not you specifically). On the other hand if the person only lists “VG” and nothing else. Well, that’s on them…

Many of these issues stem from people either not listing their group correctly in the lfg or people not reading the lfg listing properly. If you list your raid, list it very clearly. Whether it’s “all welcome/laid back” or “training” or “meta exp” and “speedclear.” And people joining need to respect those listings. Otherwise, they should not be shocked and come crying here when they get kicked.

lol, I already went and crafted a legendary shortbow for it. Well, there’s always my ranger.

I have chuka, so it’s raining tigers everywhere.

Kodiak.3281:

The Kalla Legendary on the other hand gets interesting when compared against Jalis. For one, the Razor well adds Bleed for each person who hits with it, but the bleeds count for you and take your stats. So if you got 5 people hitting each second it’s going to add a lot of bleed. The Energy drain one is the uncapped damage add which I see getting a nerf because holy crap if it’ll let us add damage on each hit with no ICD. B

Now this I agree might very well get nerfed. But revs are used to nerfs I suppose.

Aomine.5012:

xarallei.4279:

Ah I edited my post but you didn’t see the edit in time. Anyway, for pve raiding hitting 25 targets doesn’t matter. There usually are never that many targets in raids. In WvW I suppose I see it being an issue.

For raid, I can see some uses from the Elite and Razorclaws.

Yeah, I see the utilities being useful. I’m just not sure about the shortbow.

Ah I edited my post but you didn’t see the edit in time. Anyway, for pve raiding hitting 25 targets doesn’t matter. There usually are never that many targets in raids. In WvW I suppose I see it being an issue.

Aomine.5012:

Are you guys seriously did the testing properly?

Short bow is doing so much aoe condition damage with just #1 (pierce trait) and #4.
It can hit up to 25 targets, causes massive bleed and torment, while dealing aoe burning.
This is everything ranger SB wants.

Well, it’s hard to tell on these targets because they die quickly. Which is why I said I wish I had special forces. For the class targets my mace/axe definitely killed them faster. And yes, I did use 4 and 1 on the SB. Didn’t go down as fast. I had full ascended vipers too. Plus I changed the spec away from the default pvp one.

Plus there is the real issue of SB#3 being pretty much useless if you are in melee (which if you are raiding, you are in melee most of the time). It only works best at range.

edit: I did not test on multiple targets. Mainly because that’s useless for raiding purposes. The only time you have that many targets is on trash mobs or something and GW2 raids don’t have a terrible lot of those. I care more about my damage on bosses.

I felt like my mace and axe was doing more damage than the bow too. Wish we had access to the special forces area though. From the imperfect testing on the targets in the pvp area (the golems and the class targets) things definitely went down faster with mace/axe.

You aren’t meant to camp beastmode. You are meant to move in and out of it. You cast your pet’s ability and then jump into beastmode and cast your skills then jump back out, etc.

Well, yes I think most of us would prefer this kind of stuff just built in. Not to mention the ability to just change up your UI generally. GW1 had more ways to customize UI than GW2 has.

I’ve only fooled around on it a little. Some quick things…..energy costs are too kitten high. Really, it’s kind of absurd. Second the whole Anet thing of “the renegade shortbow is meant to be played at range unlike ranger” is insane. If you want this thing to be viable in PVE it must work in melee. Period. Yet, sb #3 is terrible in melee and only decent at full range.

Actually, he removed the gearcheck portion a while ago. As I already said in my prior post, Delta is in conversation with Chris Cleary. He removed the gearcheck and kept, but separated the qol feature build templates after Chris told him to do those things. After the latest fiasco with BG, he then took down the build templates to await further clarification from Chris about whether it’s okay or not. He explained all this in the reddit thread.

Arc:
http://www.deltaconnected.com/arcdps/

This is for the person who asked earlier about it.

Stephen.1207:

no need for any dps meter there is a golem to test it on to see all that

Golems are a terrible metric to go by. You need to see your dps on actual bosses. There is no boss in the game that just sits in one place doing absolutely nothing while you beat on it. The dps there is not really realistic for most normal players.

otto.5684:

As far as I know, top damage classes in PvE are Thief, Elem and Guard and their builds are power. In addition, open world PvE significantly favor power builds. From PvE standpoint things seem fairly balanced between power and condition.

Thief’s top spec is condi, not power. Power ele and guard are only high on large hit boxes. Though guard is respectable at least. If you look at the small hit box benchmark it’s mostly condi, condi, condi. There is a definite bias toward condi as far as raiding is concerned.

Those benchmarks always make me so sad. I want to play a power rev, but it’s just not viable at all. I gave in and flipped my gear to vipers. Power ranger is also a dead thing. So despite my condi ranger being nerfed, I’m sticking with it because power ranger is just terrible atm.

Hannelore.8153:

Use these together with the foods that boost a single condition (like +15% burning) and your traitlines (or sigil if you have no traits for it) and DPS is more or less comparable, so only classes that stack alot of different conditions like Necro are affected, my Guardian, Warrior and Thief are the same as before.

I would say Necro and Revenant got hit the hardest.

Actually, I think condi rev is doing slightly more damage than before so it’s not been hit that hard. Necro is well, just necro….they have their own problems that go well beyond food issues.

As for the whole condi food issue, like others have said it really did need a nerf. And I’m saying this as someone who plays a condi ranger (who actually probably got hit the worst of anyone). But I’d rather they buff my class then mess around with food to be honest.

Terrahero.9358:

We’re already there.

Stop believing in fairy tales. We have a power meta and we’ve had one since day 1 launch.

Um, what? I’m pretty sure he’s not the one believing in fairytales. I think you are the only person in the world that thinks power meta is a thing atm. I mean it was a thing for a very long time don’t get me wrong. But for the past while it’s been condi or go home.

Well, it’s doubtful they are going to change that feature as it’s important for raiding purposes.

Trehearne legend! haha.

Anet has already said group dps checking is fine.

Delta (creator of arc) was communicating directly with Chris and unlike BG (as much as I love his work), Delta was listening to Chris and complying with his requests. He removed the gearcheck off of arc a long time ago and the only part left was the QoL build templates which was separate from the actual addon. And even that he took down recently in order to confirm with Anet that it’s okay. So no, you are most likely not going to be banned for using arc.

Note Chris in the thread even said “To the developers I am already in dialog with, keep up the good work.”

Bhagawan did not comply and so he was banned unfortunately. He already pulled down the meter I think and it will break when the next patch hits. It’s highly doubtful Anet will ban anyone else at this point.

What would be the point? The meter is dead now anyway and you’d only make a lot of people very angry. What’s done is done. BGDM is gone.

RedZebra.2345:

No Xarallei he didn’t misunderstand as BGDM and arcdp are the mostly used and Anet made their stance about the semi compliant BGDM, no direct memory compliant dps meter is available atm. So everyone using such one now is in direct violation with TOS.

For god’s sake read what Chris said in those threads. Chris also responded in the new goodbye thread as well. Meters generally ARE legal. The thing that got Bhagawan into trouble is he insisted on releasing a non-compliant version of his tool as well as the compliant one. Arc does not have a non-compliant version anymore. Stop spreading misinformation.

Dude, Anet themselves has warned people about this issue and banned people for it. You see people coming on to reddit all the time complaining that they were banned MONTHS after the purchase from one of these sites. It is a real threat and I certainly wouldn’t take any chances with my account. Anet doesn’t want you to either, which is why they warn people to only buy from official retailers.

It would be nice if they could balance the two to be equal. But yeah, power specs are feeling what it was like for condi specs for years. It was zerk or go home.

You are misunderstanding. It’s not that dps meters aren’t allowed. They’ve already said over and over that they are, so long as checking dps is the only thing they do. In this case Anet gave a warning to stop making the non-compliant version and while Bhagawan separated the compliant and non-compliant gear check version that was not enough. Please stop making it seem like dps meters are not allowed. They ARE allowed.

I’ll post this again for emphasis:
https://www.reddit.com/r/Guildwars2/comments/5svug8/the_head_of_the_snake_devs_here_ask_us_anything/ddi77u2/

https://www.reddit.com/r/Guildwars2/comments/66m13h/anet_this_really_should_be_part_of_the_game/dgjwapj/

Euthymias.7984:

If Charr were only as you say, then they may as well not become Revenants in the first place, lel. It wouldn’t stop any other race with that profession from perceiving Kalla, though.

Which is funny considering Rytlock, a charr, is the first known revenant.

There are going to be more raids. Go read the link maddoctor posted. Raids are here to stay and you guys have to just live with it. I really don’t understand the selfishness of some people to say they want no more raids. If you don’t like them, don’t do them. There is nothing wrong with them existing for the rest of us. There are things I don’t like in the game, but you don’t see me yelling to have them removed from the game. If it’s optional and it’s something other people enjoy then I’m all for it being put in-game.

DirtyDan.4759:

I agree with op. I thought we had enough with cat ear headgear (nice rhyme) and cat ear golems. Now we have to see cat icons on the map. It’s just too childish imo. Someone shouldn’t have brought his wife to work.

Well, for one it could have been a guy who designed this. Guys like cats too. Two, women do work at Anet. Shocking I know, women working and all.

The tags are fun and cute. I don’t see how they are anymore distracting than regular commander tags or the mentor apples. A tag is a tag.

Exactly. That person is assuming that the same people who complained about the difficulty of HoT are the same people who complain about it not being hard enough. They aren’t.

Our lost rev weapons. Will we ever see them again?

Reincarnated.1754:

Thanks for your feedback.

I always found Guild Wars 2 gave choice, this doesn’t if your in guild that you are in insist you join the squad, and the commander wants to be a ***commander.

It’s not Cat Wars, next we will have batman and robin commander tags.

What would have been better, would be to have Profession Commander Tags.
That would have made more sense.

As it is, my min-map just keeps shoving it in my face.

Seriously? People are complaining about tags now? What will be next?

Also, don’t understand hating an animal, but that’s another story.

Rhanoa.3960:

Feothyr.6072:

Yargesh.4965:

There is only one spot on one map where that is possible and after you get to and do the golem HP you never ever have to go anywhere near there again.

Sorry, forgot to put up my sarcasm sign.

Rhanoa.3960:

Flame Legion Shaman use to be hard and fun!

Well, that’s not a fair comparison.

• He’s not level 80.
• He hasn’t unlocked all of his skills. Not to mention traits.
• His equipment is probably a bunch of greens and blues.
• The footage is most likely from a press demo pre-release. (Noticed the compass?)

You didn’t have to be lvl 80 for champion, veteran and elite to be challenging.
The video is a perfect example of how EPIC the event was.
You obviously missed Beta and release in 2012.

Oh I miss that event. It was loads of fun back then. It got the nerf bat hard.

dagrdagaz.4913:

“hard and fun”

To often i get the impression that players who consider hard content to be fun, fail to understand that not everyone considers hard content fun.

This is true. But there can be a compromise. Like I said before, you don’t need regular trash mobs to be hard. Those should be a normal difficulty. Also, things tied to HPs or mastery points should also be soloable. But that doesn’t mean there can’t be more difficult group content in the open world too. Which is where things like the bounties come into play. Maybe we will get interesting world bosses too. But hopefully, there will be content to satisfy BOTH groups of people

Depends. I absolutely think anything tied to HPs needs to be soloable. That was a mistake that they made with HoT.

And there is nothing wrong with big boss world events and stuff like that. I love those things and yes, they need a group. I’m actually sad that they nerfed several of the world bosses so that they are too face roll now. There should be some difficulty to these massive events.

However, regular random mobs across the map? Yeah, those don’t need to be really hard. The last thing I want is to be trying to get from point A to point B and being dismounted every five seconds by trash mobs that take long to kill. That is NOT fun. That is boring as hell. IMHO the bounties are a great way to integrate group content. The random champ event here and there is fine too (not hero point or mastery related please). And then world boss level events should be challenging of course.

It makes sense that HoT legendaries are associated with HoT content. So I have no issues there. The only thing that is worrisome is once PoF is released it will be harder to do some of the events in the HoT maps for the legendaries. I recently made chuka and champawat and it was a pain in the ass to get that Blighted tree event done. Nobody like to do it even now.

Haha, I remember that video. We were all waiting for that final class reveal but all basically suspected it would be mesmer. Who knows, maybe one day they really will make a Minstrel elite spec for Mesmers.

Nightrous.6732:

Why not begginer mode raids? getting meta is a bit of a learning curve to ask off casual newbs. but lots of casual nubs would like to raid. Begginer mode to kindle a passion for raiding instead of all the hassle of being perfect first raid, or more likely…. being the carried burden.

WoW has beginner mode raids and I can tell you from experience people don’t learn anything from them. The current difficulty is really not that bad all you need is to find a training group. In essence we already have two modes. We have normal mode and CM. Normal is perfectly viable to train and learn on.

You can farm the viper trinkets off the Living Story maps. A bit of a pain I know, but very doable.

NaiveBayes.2587:

xarallei.4279:

My understanding is that the utilities are not AI. They are more like wells with fancy animations. It’s not like a spirit or a minion that you can kill and it doesn’t act on its own.

And the xpac is out in September. They certainly aren’t going to redo the elite at this stage of the game.

They’re all killable. They’re like a mix of AI and a well.

Awww really? So it’s like a spirit well hybrid? That’s kind of disappointing. But I’ll wait and see this weekend before I judge.

Well yes, but you know they aren’t going to do that. So having some sort of trait was the last hope…

Oh god, I forgot how they like to tie in the elite spec collections with adventures. I really hope they don’t do that again.