i have 355 hps with my guardian, it would be kinda silly to have the full spec just at the beggining of the expansion, i’m assuming it will be 400 or probably 300
Proof of heroics.
Everybody could manage to have em Since the first login.
According to the devs Proof of Heroics won’t work for unlocking PoF HPs; they will be introducing a new currency to WvW for that.
Can you site the source for that? Reason I ask is because that doesn’t seem to make sense. Proofs unlock the Hero Points for you. It’d be the same as going over to the Hero Point and activating it yourself. If we’re going to be using hero points, then Proofs would work.
I’m starting to think that Hero Points are not going to be the way to unlock the Elites then.
Please at least make the animations on Sword 1 for the 4 attunements different from one another. They are currently all the same. Our other weapons have different animations, why does Sword have to suffer? The only difference with Sword1 is the blade trail! Please for the love of all that’s good tell me that’s going to change by expansion drop!
Actually in general most of the skill animations on Weave’s Sword are very lackluster. I’m sorely disappointed because I was really looking forward to this new Elite the most. It was the actual selling point to me. Now though…
1. Damage is way too low on sword, and being kited will result in a quick loss for you. I play d/d and it at least has a 600 range auto on water. I think sword needs this too on one of the attunements.
2. Barrier might as well not even exist. It’s useless in its current form. A single auto attack will rid it, even with extra stacks built up. Also, it decays waaaaaaaay too quickly. It’s in dire need of a numbers increase across the board.
3. I know a lot of people are complaining about the attunement cds, but honestly, I’m okay with it. I do think it serves as a good balance point if the above 2 are fixed.
Or they should let us swap weapons out of combat, like we requested 100 times already :p
Well you can do that now, although it’s more manual than just a simple weapon swap like other classes. My problem is what if you need to start kiting? Sure, you can kite around, but your not going to be doing any damage while you kite. At least with dagger, there’s the 600 range on water.
Hmm, this worries me a little. I think at least one of the elements needs a 600(or 900) range auto, or I’m afraid frost bow may need to be a permanent slot on the utilities.
Will the weaver sword have a 600 range on one of the elements? I hope so. The dagger has that on water and there are times when kiting is needed more than close range.
It’s not a bot. You can simply set a skill to auto-cast. By default it is typically on your weapons #1 skill, but you can apply it to any skill. Saying it is a bot implies a form of hacking or use of third-party software. It isn’t, it is using a game feature.
They are AFKing. There is however currently no rule against using this as a form to stay logged in and people have been using it for years. Especially in pve fights with long windows (i.e. Tequatl the Funless).
AFKing in keeps or on spawn is one of the reasons i agree with having steep Rank requirements, as these kind of people with this kind of behavior will never get to the special cosmetic items at this rate.
If Commanders are selling these ‘participation’ spots or giving it to their friends, it is up to the community itself to sort this out. Don’t follow such Commanders and expose them for their scummy behavior.
Altough typically i think these people just AFK so they don’t have to wait in queue later when they do have time to play.
Thank you for the lesson. Perhaps I should have clarified my post a bit more before your post.
These people are using macros to do their auto-log prevention, not just a skill spam. They are making the same movements along with skill spam in a pattern that indicates it. From what I understand, and I’m sure you’ll correct me, but macro’ing isn’t allowed and is what I thought was included as “botting”.
Also, last time I checked, just putting a skill on a auto-cast is not enough to prevent you from auto-logging. Granted that was a very long time ago since I had tried it.
So, I’m on a server that’s usually on T1 or T2 and have noticed a trend lately. People staying at the spawn and botting, so they don’t get autologged. You can tell because they have a skill that stays on CD.
Just fair warning. I’m reporting you for botting if I see you do it. Sucks that I have to wait in que enough. Why should you hold your place while everyone else logs off when they leave?
mantras
dual wielding attunement
only 2 attunement not 4
sword man hand
total of 38 new weapons skills :
1 and 2 from sword per attunement = 8
3 new dual attunement skils from F/W F/A F/E W/A W/E A/E per man and 2hand weapon – 6 x sword, scepter, staff, dagger, trifdent = 30
and 5 mantras that is 43 new skills in total
all what I could get from leaks
discuss
So basically Ele’s are going to be Revenant’s with Mantras, mixed in with Thief dual wielding abilities.
I’d be okay with this if it wasn’t for the Revenant part. We’ve already go that. Why lose the other two elements? That’s disappointing.
On reddit they said “1 element on your main hand, 1 on your offhand”. Or just 1 element in case of two-handers. With a fuse skill in any case on skill 3. You’re not getting a second weapon set.
If this is true, the elite spec is already looking terrible imo. I was looking forward to using sword but won’t do it if I lose all my attunements. That’s just extremely limiting. I’m with you on your other post. That’s not the appeal of the class, having four choices is.
Is it me or do the Healing skills on revenants go on CD a lot when interrupted and not even using them? I can’t count how many times I get downed because I’m unable to use my heal skill because it’s on a short 5 sec CD.
I had to wait and save up (talking real life money) for the Crystalline Dragon Wings and missed my chance, and then the same thing happened with the Ice Encasement Outfit.
Is there anyway the store can bring these two items back? Again, I’m talking real life money, not just saving up gold.
Nope, I’m dead serious. Middle Earth is a magical place, but magic isn’t widely or often used. Magic in Tyria is much more common, a better parallel would be the age of legend from WoT or the world of Eberron. Gandalf himself doesn’t perform epic feats of magic comparable to what Tyria has seen – the Searing, the Foefire, the sinking of Orr are all feats of magic of epic proportions which dwarf everything from LotR.
As for Vader, it was simply an example how a magic user wins a fight without having to even lift his lightsaber. Again, if you expect to build a character like Vader, prepare to be disappointed.
Except he didn’t win the fight with magic (aka the Force) alone. He won it by using both melee and magic. And to further this argument, it takes using the Force just to be able to use a lightsaber effectively and without cutting off one of your own limbs on accident.
I pointed out a specific scene for a reason, you chose to ignore it and discuss the character himself. OK. Anakin Skywalker is a perfect example of what you can’t have in a game, as he’s both exceptionally skilled at lightsaber combat and one of the most powerful Force users.
Gandalf is from a setting where magic is used very little. I don’t see how he’s relevant.
And I’m pointing out that your specific scene/character example is flawed to use for the point you were making. So is your stereotypical view of magic users. I pointed out why the example you used to backup your point actually supports the opposite view that you have. In addition, using the same character, I provided another example.
Also, the comment you made about Gandalf pretty much just invalidated you….. I mean, that’s gotta be a joke, right?
I disagree. Remember, thematically speaking. Why would you even consider letting an enemy close, letting him fight with you when you can make him fight the environment. Remember Darth Vader defeating young Luke Skywalker by simply retreating and throwing inanimate objects at him with the Force?
P.S. Not only have I seen, I have played one many times. And they NEVER turn out as cool as they sound. For balancing reasons you can’t have everything in a game. So you’re either an amazing caster, an amazing martial warrior or a non-amazing mix of both.
I disagree with your disagreement. In your example of DV, he uses both the force and his lightsaber, sometimes at the same time. In fact, in RotJ, he uses the force to throw his lightsaber.
Did you forget the hp and armor stats? We’re the squishiest of the squishy classes. And we already play in melee range if we want to produce any meaningful damage output. Sword is such a cliche… Still better than GS though.
Sword might be a cliche, but it’s also a cliché that makes sense. Elementalists don’t have access to shields, and they hold their daggers in an ice pick grip.
Additionally, they wear cloth, so they can’t rely on their armour for protection.
Thus, they’ll need to rely on their melee weapon for defence. Of the options, the only thing that’s anywhere near as stand alone defensive as sword is great sword, and does anyone really think that elementalists will ever actually get another 2 handed weapon? 20 skills is a /lot/ for them to devote to elementalists.
At the same token, we only have ONE 2 hander. That sucks!
But I’d be extremely happy with either sword or GS.
And please, no rifles or pistols…. I hate that they are in the game anyways!
I need some advice. In playing in WvW, I’ve been using Mist Form as a means to escape when caught up in the Zerg, but seems like every time I do, I’m immobilized. So, when’s the best time to use this skill? And, what else can I do to get out of being caught, besides the Lightning port?
I hope we get both GS and Sword to be honest with you. I love both weapons out of all of them in the game. Was quite sad when I found out neither were on the core when the game was released.
You need to add Sword offhand #5, in particular the initial hit and how to land it. It fails quite often for no apparent reason, terrain issues, etc. A shadow step to the target would make a world of difference.
One thing I disagree with you OP is Glint’s functionality. In all honesty, I think the Legend is just short of being perfect, the flaw being the heal skill. I think the invulnerability should be longer with a reduction of healing. 2 seconds of it is not enough especially if you’re in the middle of red circle death zone. Despite that, the Legend is in a very good place. If anything, the other Legends need to be brought up to its standards.
I am the only one arround here that wants a greatsword as a ranged condi weapon for rev?
Its an iconic weapon for soldier classes, with condi ranged it would find a use it didnt had before would go well with Asgeir Dragonrender, trahearne or Riannoc ir even tge pale tree if she dies.
Yes you are. Greatswords suck.
No, he’s not. I am for all classes to have a GS!
However, I still stand by my original opinion. It’s gonna be Pyre and he’s bringing either LB or SB. Util and wep skills and traits are going to be pure condi based.
I think there needs to be some changes to them, like the poison trait that only laughably applies every 20 seconds; the burn application from the GM trait could add another stack or two; and get the promised Torment damage increase from Beta 3 results that never made it.
And most of all, we need a ranged condi weapon.
But, I think the rest are fine given that. I think saying its unviable isn’t quite right.
Forget it; it took you 3 days to post that crapy response? Man, you’re slow.
Not everybody reads the forum every day. You are being unnecessarily salty.
And he’s completely justified to throw that salt. Buran took the time to respond to him and try to teach him how to use the skills that he is complaining about.
OT, these skills do NOT need faster animations. They are long for good reason considering the potential game-changer benefits they provide. If they were to have faster cast times, they would be overpowered and something would have to nerfed to justify such a change. As with all classes that have long windups, you have to prepare the target beforehand.
Not to rain on your parade, and I’m not completely disagreeing with you because if you played well with the class he is strong, but then so can any class be that is well played. Heck, you could go naked and still win if well played. But, the problem is that the other classes have take half the effort to do said well played.
Don’t get me wrong, I love the revenant, but the other classes do have it much easier.
Oh that’s nice. I didn’t think it’d work if you already had the buff. So if you fire off Rage as One, you’ll get Opening strike several times since it pulses Fury?
Yes, you’ll gain three Opening Strikes from Strength of the Pack through Remorseless (as will your pet). You may also be interested in Rune of Evasion (5 out of 6 runes), that grants fury when you dodge (icd 10 seconds).
Opps, I meant Strength of the Pack. Glad you understood that.
Oh that’s nice. I didn’t think it’d work if you already had the buff. So if you fire off Rage as One, you’ll get Opening strike several times since it pulses Fury?
You know, it’s extremely annoying when you que up for WvW, have to wait an hour, finally get the Travel option, click on the Travel button, and then get told that WvW is full and puts you back in que to the back of line, only to have to wait another hour.
I like the idea of removing energy reset on legend swap, but I would still like to keep the energy recovery rate at 5 per second. If it gets too fast it will start to feel very similar initiative on Thief. However, they could certainly reduce the energy cost of skills instead. They could also add a small amount of energy recovery on legend swap to a trait in Invocation (not so much to make it mandatory, though – perhaps 10 energy).
That’s still too much to make it mandatory. Any energy gain related trait will make it mandatory. Even if it’s just plus 1 energy. If there’s going to be any trait like that at all, it’ll need to be shared across all traitlines, in some sort of various flavors.
Revenant needs more than 50% of it’s maximum for the other legends.
The existing scheme encourages swapping legends not because you want to or it makes sense to, but for the free energy. Facepalm….
I partially disagree with this. I can agree because you do need to swap sometimes just for the energy need on weapons, but most of the time I only swap legends because I want to or need the other legend’s utilities. I think that was the intention. I sort of meld of the two needs/wants.
Sounds like Revenant just isn’t for you m8. Energy management is partially what makes the profession. Others that play it know how to manage it without any problems.
The only real problem however is Jalis. His skills DO require a bit too much energy. I will give you that.
I’ve no clue what *snip means.
Fellows you talk about managing the profession without problems are all Shiro/Glint users since it’s plastered over the community as the only viable build that anyone will run.
Yes, glint is probably the most energy efficient legend out of all the Brady bunch. Shiro has mobility with some evades and strong dmg buffs so his energy costs are justified along with cool downs. Jalis, Mallyx, and Ventari I’m not moved on the subject.
You can’t say a professions only a profession because of 2/5’s of the profession works well. I say the energy consumption vs reward on the other 3/5 is unjustified and needs revitalization to work better.
Mallyx got the stun break which was obviously needed but it’s still 35 energy for a skill that does nothing but stun breaks and adds a strong boon to 1 type of damage so the 35% really isn’t worth it so it should be reduced.
Ventari’s skills all of them aren’t justified by their cast times and energy costs. Natural Harmony, as an example, a heal that’s only 1k to 2k that requires 3 seconds to go off on activation 2 delays 1 spending 20 energy when skills that cost less energy like weapons reward you with damage well over 4k. Keep in mind this isn’t about changing the skill this is talking about energy vs reward.
Snip just means taking out the quote, but letting you know that I’m replying to you.
I don’t play the meta build by the way. In fact, I actually switch and play all of the Legends, but I do rarely play Ventari. The two I use the most out of the 5 is Malyx and Glint.
Sounds like Revenant just isn’t for you m8. Energy management is partially what makes the profession. Others that play it know how to manage it without any problems.
The only real problem however is Jalis. His skills DO require a bit too much energy. I will give you that.
Energy needs to stay, CD’s need to go. Both on weapons and utilities.
Putting in CDs ruined the class.
As already mentioned, CD’s were already on the class, and taking them off of weapons would break things terribly.
Being able to use s3 multiple times in a row would be massively OP, or SotM. Weapons need CD’s, though I think some are a bit harsh, and there are some utilities that need their CD’s removed, especially some of the high energy ones.
They weren’t there with pre-beta and betas, if I remember correctly. There might’ve been a few put in at beta-3 though. No CDs is what made the class appealing.
Also, CDs aren’t the only way to balance, so I’d disagree that they’re needed.
I stared in BW2, and there were cd’s on weapons.
Thank you…. again? Blaque already corrected me.
As I already replied to Blaque, I started in Pre_Beta, but don’t remember them, but do remember sword #3 getting one of the first CDs on it.
Regardless, I still stand by my point. CD’s aren’t needed and there are other ways to balance in place of them.
