Ok to start. Maybe a little harsh on my last comment. My bad. Mentioning gwen and meta triggers me because i know socially (game wise) i have never been accepted simply because of the class i play no matter how hard or well i play. and in my defense you didnt say lol play rev but im pretty sure thats what the first dude to reply in my post did. but that aside.
I think throw mines toolbelt kills me because it hits more people then barrage and a little bit harder maybe?but def more targets. mines toolbelt can hit up to 25 i think while the barrage best case is 18? My math is most probably wrong so dont quote me. but i wish i was recording when it happened i’ll try and recreate it for ya next few nights.
and no one said firearms lol but my gut tells me there is a sleeping giant in a condition juggy build. more to come.
all jokes aside archonwing i appreciate the feedback man and i apologize for maybe barkin at ya.
I normally would agree lightning fields overwriting other fields is normally a l2p issue which is why I didn’t say anything about thunderclap, but it is linked to your heal which is why I find it a bit sketchy. As a side note is final salvo superspeed AOE; since the tooltip is very vague on it.
I don’t think wells are a good comparison against nades, because wells can strip boons, and also are not reflectable. Wells also tick 5 targets per pulse while you hit multiple targets per grenade. Its a big difference. Nades are good for vuln, chill, and poison beyond raw damage, and that’s it. Note that Revs, Eles, and Necros all have big burst skills that aren’t reflectable. It’s just a sad fact of life when Revs, Eles, and guardians can potentially put out a lot of projectile hate, and the former two with almost zero effort.
Explosives isn’t really a favored tree because it mostly just increases more damage. It’s basically 7% more damage and 10% extra damage but only for the grenades. None of the GM traits are particularly good. The vulnerability stacking is so-so. The mortar trait is quite nice but you’re not using it.
If you’d like to keep Explosives, maybe try Throw Mine. The toolbelt skill isn’t reflectable and is easy to get off in melee, plus the occasional boon strip is useful. The actual utility isn’t too hot but it is a blast finisher and can also be thrown where the enemy will go making it less subject to reflects. Sure there’s cooldowns on it but it’s not like you’d be spamming nades anyways.
Inventions is nice because of the extra healing, mecha legs, and bunker down also contributes a good bit of damage. I don’t think it’s essential as much as I find most engineer trees highly lacking so if you can live without it, that’s fine too.
As for stealth, I think Toss Elxiir S tends to be better for breaking target but I suppose using them both has its perks.
Def l2p issue as far as lightning fields on water Fields are concerned . kill bots before regroup or kill it after blasting water its really very simple. Contrary to popular belief its not that hard of a game =)
The well comparison was more damage and condi applications. Wells cant be reflected I admit but wells are also on a much longer timer and stationary so don’t miss also hope they don’t walk out of it. and correct me if i’m wrong its only 1 well that strips boons.and i dont know if i would say spam nades all day but they work as my other weapon. remember engis only get 1. Also hammer all on its own dose high damage. nades allows me to compound all of my best damage skills from both weapons into one big kitten wombo combo. . retal is not hurting me because im doing low damage
Throw mine was fun and actually a pretty solid choice but its funny you mention it because the tool belt ability on throw mine will 100-0 kill you faster then nades as far as retal is concerned.. It has happened to me on a couple separate occasions funny as hell . I actually want to try throw mine with with a tool/inv/scrap (mines everywhere!) build but i mite have to bulk up on toughness/vit if im losing ironblood and the occasional adaptive armor
You and a couple of others are making the case for Inv/tool like i dont know about it. trust my friends I know all about it. inv/alch/scrap was my first frontline build but like anything else i got a little better at staying alive so now i can trade out some survive -ability for raw damage.
lol there it is…. GREN. What is it about this community?
Let me ask are the people who still think GWEN/GREN is the only viable comp the same people voting for trump? Classism? i swear …..
I’m confused by the explosives hate. Did the grenade damage seem low or something?
Okdk archon. Stealth gyro is to break target for my driver and an oh kitten button . The build is only ran in guild groups so no need for condi clears imo. Yes retal hurts that’s why it’s not advisable to just spam one and use nades. Think of nades as more necro wells than rapid fire mortar personally. A guardian can really hurt himself with gs in a group with retal but it doesn’t mean he doesn’t use it. Same concept with nades.
Final salvo is also my the oops stab and lightning fields on water regroups is a l2p issue not a final salvo issue. personally it’s the guardians usually effing up the water regroups. Hgh with my build doesn’t help me. But iron blood helps when I’m balls deep with the tank train also allows me to run relatively low armor for front line and put those points in damage.
And pug zergs are pug zergs kitten those jokers.
Alot of succesfull engineers that are running in tight guild groups tend to run either inventions,alch,scrapper or tools,alch,scrapper.
personally i wouldnt run scrapper in a pug zerg, however I defo would run it with a rly good guild
I thought i was pretty successful without inv/tools dont you?
Started this guy with inventions and while the extra utility from the trait line is nice the fact remains that alot of the stuff u gain is being given by other member of the party.
Small man and solo inventions line makes sense but when you start running 15-20+ in wvw you gota rely on other team members.Why I dont take egun = We run enough gards/revs/eles to really not worry about condi clense. Acid bomb is nice damage but the launch backwards can and will put you real far away from your tag and out of the damage zone. INstead of hitting acid bomb i hit grenade barrage and that hammer3/hammer5/gernade barrage combo is down rite devastating. I have start calling that combo “Engi wells”
Explosive is a pure dps boost for me. The difference between slow moving and fasting moving gernades is a dps upgrade 7% on vuln targets is a dps upgrade and being able to proc bleeds/cripple so these fools cant run from my tank train is a dps boost for everyone in the end. It doesn’t do much for the group admittedly . I take the mortar line when im not running in the drivers group because adding double finger of god (mortar f5) to the above mentioned combo is. well its..so sexy..
Stealth gyro is also good for hiding our driver since he tends to get sniped alot in the big fights, being able to break target every time we make a pass is nice. We had two guards to cover stab and a rev for buffs and resist.
So to be clear. You would have still taken a 3rd guard or second rev? Engi damage is rock solid the builds there to help sustain and even a couple party buffs stealth/reflects to help the group out great water feild for regroups and can double as aoe protection when thigns get hot. dam dude kinda of a kitten comment but ehh internet rite?
I don’t make to many videos so please be kind! no fancy editing just raw footage so please mind the ts talk. Mite be some cusin and or kitten erotic language being used so buyer beware.
Lemme know what you guys think
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acccck. Thank you . So basically a poison field will negate a banner?
Happened to me 2x during guild raid last night and just happened puggin in ebg. I will drop it rite next to a downed but not dead allie and nothing happens.
OP did you try and WVW on a free acount ? kittening painful ain’kitten
IM down. just make this a thing
Anet hook an engi up. Its 1 stack of stability lets do this!
I accidentally got one the other day. I don’t get it? Whats the big deal? PvE nerds (I swear i mean nerds in a good way) super spoiled ? Don’t like doing part of the game you hate to excel at another? Bababababalance
Kinda getting sick and tired of guardians owning the rites to group stab. If say make stability accessible via blasts finishers. That would shake things up a bit? I say via lightning field or something
Why? it’s a guild mission. And the definition of a guild is:
1. an organization of persons with related interests, goals, etc., especially one formed for mutual aid or protection.
So why should something that is meant for more people be soloable. Even when it is easy?
This. MMORPG
MASSIVE MULTI!
Be social
Dev’s, what the heck are you thinking locking the worlds again? Players are just starting to move and balance ourselves out and you lock it? You’re going to break Guilds that are in mid transfer, which are several that I know of alone.
OPEN THE WORLDS! We balance better than you can. At the very least give us a 48 hours warning before you go all Overlord (wrongly) and lock the worlds.
I do not think this is acurate. We move motivated to win. They move us motivated to balance. Yes the first one was borked but again it’s cuz WE stacked the deck. Keep calm and let them do their thing. Shuuuush
Such un-interesting poll. Can’t you people there at Anet decide these things for yourself? Ask us for grand directions, not some server mixing micromanagement schedule.
What a kitten bag comment. Like your daily routine of trolling forums and playing video games made for ages 12 and rabid masterbation to goat porn is so important. to answer a question that directly affects game play is beneath you? Shut the kitten up
NOt useless at all. Very difficult to play well. Not worth the trouble for most. and most people are still saying GWEN to this day so its hard to break old ignant ideas. ::shrug::
gutted is way to strong of a word. engi is more in balance with other classes. the problem will always be the same with engi. Its is not a very popular class and the few that do play it usually follow the “meta” blindly without ever really tinkering with stuff. Engi along with most other classes can bring anything you want to the raid pve/pvp/wvw and it can finally specialize .
Tank build – Check
CC build – Check
heal build – im gonna start tinkering with this next but the tools all seem to be there.
Damage build – Check
Condi build – Check
what doctor ding said
Dino hit all points.
GG
and welcome to the best profession in the game =)
Aihao. I would recomend p/p with gernade then load up on defense utility. something like
marks/1-1-3 explo/1—2-2 scrapper-(1or3)-1-2
medicgyro/gernade/bulwork/your favorit here/stealth gyro
profit
Video is of my guild Despicable[ME]!!
POV is of our second in command big daddy Kiyoshi spinning to win on his guardian!!
Im somewhere in that madness with the front line train i swear lol.
This is what i have been running. still trying to catch the gear up but its pretty dam close.
Charr is the power!
(edited by Rocknull.2986)
then use medic gyro.
=)
One thing i kinda hate are things like meta battle. its like a web sight giving away magician secrets. just booo. sucking some fun out of the complete game.
Figuring out the best option for your needs is a huge part of this game. and one of the most fun parts if you ask me. The only part that goes with ya pass the computer and out the to real world. (to heavy?)
but for a 100 gold i can say kitten the bullkitten and just tell ya whats good =)
totally possible
just cuz u cant doesnt mean others are not
send me 100 gold and i’ll give you the build
kittenhought i complained alot….
scrapper is awesome
finale salvo is/should be meta
i vote i make the build =)
best class ever!
op. I know its easy to feel attacked or belittled on a forum. but my love i gota be honest with ya and say engineer has never been stronger. You need to adjust your play style the options to dominate are there. Adapt and overcome. Your an engi for kittens sake! its what we do.
game of thrones marathon while we wait bro
dont give up!
One d/c of any kind.. one that crashes the game, or throws you back to the character select and no wvw tonight for you.
to true. Sad panda char
let the game of thrones marathon continue!
Down from 60.. yup 60 to 33. Just chillin. Hows everyone else doin?
Mjölnir goes hand in hand with popping lightning fields every 5 seconds, lol.
my thoughts exactly ! and a tribute to my Thanes old god from daoc!
woah woah woah.. start from the begining op. take a deep breath.. INNNNNNnnnnn and OOOOooouuuttt.. Ok now explain to daddy. What the hell are you talking about?
all of the recent scrapper changes were to bring them back down to earth not nerf them into the ground like some are claiming. be careful with how much you take from forums it can be a pretty toxic place. Big changes will be happening basically every quarter (4x a year) and if something does break or stops working as intended the devs will basically get rite on it. (little graphic stuff not so fast but im sure they are workin on it)
For example. The last 4/19/16 patch broke an elite spec in the scrapper line and the problem was fixed within 24hrs. Was it rite away? no.. but they did fix it. Anet is definitely listening and it looks like they care more then some of us may give them credit for.
to the both of you i say
Buy HOT ! I can promise you with absolutely no doubt that it will provide you with HOURS and HOURS of content. Any complaints that you have been reading about on the forums about hot/wvw have and are continually being upgraded and worked on. I personally hate pve in most games but they have managed to make it so much more fun andaccessible in this last patch. HOT = you have fun when YOU want.
I was always a big fan of gw2. Origianl HOT expansion left a strange taste in my mouth because it didnt feal like the old game but only 6 months later these fools basically fixed everything. very proud to be part of this team.
so join up homies. HOT awaits!
Far from useless -. Finale salvo is back . Nd slick shoes still works it’s just not overpowered
Front line scrapper is alive and well
So not to long ago i posted.. well mostly kittened about i felt jerked with hot. deff not the best way to go about it. but i was mad and i love gw2 so i vented. I feel personally this last quarterly update shows anet is not only listening but willing to work with us. So thank you very much anet for all the hard work you have been doin. and sorry for the kittening.
your favorite scrapper
xoxo
Degrim Gearclaw
daaaaam. been doing it so wrong. tahnk you for this.
just double checked totally working. thank you!
T hank you jeebus! ! Had a killer night raiding with guild this evening . I feel finale salvo is truly the niche engis have been looking for in wvw. consistent cc. great damage.and the utilities from the tool belt skills on gyro truly help the raid as a whole . So kittening hap p y rite now . Thank u anet!
But…
There were a few times were I felt statics were not activating but that could just be visual lag. But if it was not lag it felt like it happened when I tri e d to destroy the gyro rite after activating giving it little or no time to fulfill it’s primary function of said gyro .
Holy kitten.. is this what you get when you complain? They kitten your class and ignore ya?
Daaam nerds .. kitten move
Finale salvo is not working properly
Def could we get some type of response
Bod of the message much be at least 15.
I dont understand why no repsons and I am down rite afraid to see how long this will take to fix.
Up the the top of the list where you belong
still broken
. UP you go
This needs to remain on top of forum list ladies and gents. So please help an engi out
Holy crow …… they give us this monster of a patch then break us!?!?!?
Guys we can not let this go. What’s the legal limit on posting before we get banned?
I will remain calm. I will not curse …. I need a red comment .This needs to be fixed. And in a game where everything is so op why the he’ll we get nerfed?!?!?!?
Ahhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhghhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh!
Last night ran something along these lines – don’t remember exactly the food as it was some random stuff just to be something. Had a lot of fun and was surprised of the amount of punishment I was able to take (our blue tag was not very talkative on TS).
Had a lot of those moments when you feel that you single handedly tip the balance of the fight and because of your little silly combo (hammer 5,3,2) you got downed those 3-4 guys in that turnaround moment. Might be just my imagination but I love those moments.
Anyway – any feedback is welcomed.
It is totally not your imagination. Its solid damage coming from your hammer added in the damage from blowing up your gyros. We are kittening killing machines ! and when its all over and we are backing out of the bloody melee popping tool-belt on the bulwark gyro so me and my homies could stack like the bosses we truly are
::swoon::
btw bud. you already have self regulating defense. I say drop elixir s all together and replace with slick shoes or something else all together. also since you are using finale salvo I would drop mass momentum for rapid regen to truly energize the build but thats just me. gg out there and keep up the good work!
lol kitten really throws a wooden buckler?
kittening anet man.