Guild Wars 2

MightyMicah.7451:

Peow peow.2189:

Currently elementalist is the most mobile class in the game

In the opinion of a number of people i’ve talked to…

Right the lightning – goes to far
Fire dash (3) – can dodge most projectiles and again is quite a far mover

This means that eles can continue to run without being locked down and go into water to heal as they run

I am all for mobility but this is quite ridiculous.

I’ve come to the ele forums to get ideas on how we can remove the large ammount of mobility while still keeping the class balanced?

When I saw the title of this thread, I got very confused. Since when was mobility for Ele’s something that needed to be nerfed?

Since OP got rekt by some random Ele, sad, but true…

SilverWF.4789:

STRanger.5120:

SilverWF.4789:

Complaining? Where you see that?
I’m wondering: wtf with so big … kitten it, read 1st post again.

Complaining, because if you really wanted an explanation only, post #2 in this topic would be more then sufficient and no more “discussion” from your side would have occured, period.

Who are you to place periods anywhere? You can take your “eletism” and go to the …

Thanks for confirming my point :-)

SilverWF.4789:

Complaining? Where you see that?
I’m wondering: wtf with so big … kitten it, read 1st post again.

Complaining, because if you really wanted an explanation only, post #2 in this topic would be more then sufficient and no more “discussion” from your side would have occured, period.

Complaining about WvW 1 on 1 balance is really meaningful, yeah, sure

/sacrasm

You serious??? Again?
Is there any class you don’t want to nerf? Except of your precious warrior of course…
I highly doubt that….

“Well known PvPer” – not funny, try harder next time, 0/10

OP: I’ll take that as a bad joke, but thanks for trying…..

Why?

/15chars

TPMN.1483:

STRanger.5120:

TPMN.1483:

STRanger.5120:

hybrid.5027:

STRanger.5120:

Zerker meta is caused by one and only thing, absence of essential “roles” in PvE, aka trinity or similar system.
So until the game gets total overhaul, there will be zerker meta. Anet is clearly ok with that, so there’s no way to change that.

tl,dr: take it or leave it.

Please see my post a few posts above wherein I show how wrong this is.

Please accept that not everyone have to share your opinion.
The post above is about your opinion (it’s definitely good to have one, nothing against that), but the truth is that everything PvE related is about DPS and nothing else. So that’s what created zerker meta and that’s the reason why it’s still there.
This is my opinion, you’re free to have your own of course.

However, the game is built that way, especially in the dungeon scenario, where most of the dangerous “mechanics” can be skipped/glitched/avoided, therefore are not existant for speedrunners and is possible to run those in full zerker gear because of this.

No ‘mechanics’ are skipped – we actively ‘defend’ against them. You just dont notice the videos where we use control skills to prevent these from happening.

Please go play a different game if you want a holy trinity or traditional MMO with elves, death necros, fairys, vampires and such like.

I can even recommend a few for you !

Tell this to the trap floor in CM, where a shadowstep/another kind of teleport through the ceiling from the floor under it skips it, will ya? Or the last boss in the same dungeon (don’t know the path now), where it’s often intentionally bugged into a rock, so he can’t reach players outside of his AOE attacks which are easily dodgable….

Also, I neither look for another MMO, nor want a trinity system here, I just would like to see working PvE, not skip/glitch fest like it’s now…

Skipping mobs is a valid mechanic and part of meta play.
While I’m at it : " Stelth is a valid mechanic" and is encouraged to “skip” large portions of play.
Glitching is an exploit – let’s not discuss those here.

I understand these are probably your experiences – and this seems off topic to “meta” play tbh. Prehaps start a new thread?

We are talking about the “meta” and responding to the OP on the basis of “this meta has to end”

Can you tell me where I mentioned “stealth”?
And yeah, glitching is exploiting, exactly. How would you name bugging a boss to get stuck in place or teleporting through a ceiling to avoid a trap room?

Try this in without reporting a bug in a game where devs/GMs actually care about their PvE and you’ll see what happens…. I’ll give you a hint, the word has 3 letters, starts with a “b” and ends with “n”.

Also, for the comments like “try this encounter without stacking etc…”, I understand that some encounters are much harder without stacking, but that’s just a result of a poor design, and stacking as a “tactic” should never became a thing, however Anet forced players to it unfortunately….

Meteor Shower, no doubts here :-)

Edit: I know it sucks now, but I still love these kind of spells

TPMN.1483:

STRanger.5120:

hybrid.5027:

STRanger.5120:

Zerker meta is caused by one and only thing, absence of essential “roles” in PvE, aka trinity or similar system.
So until the game gets total overhaul, there will be zerker meta. Anet is clearly ok with that, so there’s no way to change that.

tl,dr: take it or leave it.

Please see my post a few posts above wherein I show how wrong this is.

Please accept that not everyone have to share your opinion.
The post above is about your opinion (it’s definitely good to have one, nothing against that), but the truth is that everything PvE related is about DPS and nothing else. So that’s what created zerker meta and that’s the reason why it’s still there.
This is my opinion, you’re free to have your own of course.

However, the game is built that way, especially in the dungeon scenario, where most of the dangerous “mechanics” can be skipped/glitched/avoided, therefore are not existant for speedrunners and is possible to run those in full zerker gear because of this.

No ‘mechanics’ are skipped – we actively ‘defend’ against them. You just dont notice the videos where we use control skills to prevent these from happening.

Please go play a different game if you want a holy trinity or traditional MMO with elves, death necros, fairys, vampires and such like.

I can even recommend a few for you !

Tell this to the trap floor in CM, where a shadowstep/another kind of teleport through the ceiling from the floor under it skips it, will ya? Or the last boss in the same dungeon (don’t know the path now), where it’s often intentionally bugged into a rock, so he can’t reach players outside of his AOE attacks which are easily dodgable….

Also, I neither look for another MMO, nor want a trinity system here, I just would like to see working PvE, not skip/glitch fest like it’s now…

Tao.5096:

True that it will move to other forums.
Doesn’t change the fact that devs will have to look at them and take them into account.
What’s more, moderators will lock them and archive/delete them.

Even if it’ll change the stupidity behind some nerfs which were a community tears wish, even by half, I find it as improvement.

Well, it won’t.

Because this kind of nerfs were done even before this forum was even created, so just like that….

hybrid.5027:

STRanger.5120:

Zerker meta is caused by one and only thing, absence of essential “roles” in PvE, aka trinity or similar system.
So until the game gets total overhaul, there will be zerker meta. Anet is clearly ok with that, so there’s no way to change that.

tl,dr: take it or leave it.

Please see my post a few posts above wherein I show how wrong this is.

Please accept that not everyone have to share your opinion.
The post above is about your opinion (it’s definitely good to have one, nothing against that), but the truth is that everything PvE related is about DPS and nothing else. So that’s what created zerker meta and that’s the reason why it’s still there.
This is my opinion, you’re free to have your own of course.

However, the game is built that way, especially in the dungeon scenario, where most of the dangerous “mechanics” can be skipped/glitched/avoided, therefore are not existant for speedrunners and is possible to run those in full zerker gear because of this.

Tao.5096:

Finally, lazy nabs won’t affect profession balancing decisions. Everything will be up to devs. No pressure. Adapt or gtfo!

You’re so optimistic m8
The only thing that will happen is this → The whining and tears will move to the other forums, so it won’t change anything in this matter….

Imho everything is quite easy, even Elementalist (was my first char, if you manage to have up-to-date Equip, it’s not a problem at all), just the Mesmer is somehow PITA, because slow…
The easiest are of course Ranger/Warrior/Guardian, but also, boring as hell….

Hmm, for example it’s considered OP in conjunction with Elementalist and Engineer
For PvP/WvW roaming of course

Zerker meta is caused by one and only thing, absence of essential “roles” in PvE, aka trinity or similar system.
So until the game gets total overhaul, there will be zerker meta. Anet is clearly ok with that, so there’s no way to change that.

tl,dr: take it or leave it.

Enemy level scales with the number of players in the event zone You don’t know that?

StinVec.3621:

Saucermote.9140:

If it is intended behavior, it changed with this patch.

Hitting ‘OK’ has been behaving this way since the initial TP 2.0 update, it is not new.

However, what is new is that you are no longer forced to close the item information pop-up after completing a sale if you happen to have no more of that item left to sell.

The trading window for a certain item stays even though you don’t have any more of that item after clicking “ok” , this definitely changed by the patch, it wasn’t behaving like this before.

OP: This is not the game problem, it’s the community problem. However, the community is like that for a good 10 years, unfortunately….
The worst thing is that it affects games as well….

ProtoGunner.4953:

STRanger.5120:

Raid makes no sense imho, in a game without a solid PvE mechanic (just look at the dungeons, how those works).
It’s just about one thing, skip this, glitch that, bug those, stack there. I don’t see any real PvE behind it….
Just my 2 cents though….

Stop comparing the same old dungeons from original game. They showed with all content after the initial release that they can implement interesting mechanics.

Firstly, don’t tell me what to do.
Secondly, I just expressed my opinion. Yeah, in the newer LS, there were some interesting mechanics, however that is solo-scenario. So until I’ll see something interesting and working in group scenario, I remain sceptical. That’s all.

Raid makes no sense imho, in a game without a solid PvE mechanic (just look at the dungeons, how those works).
It’s just about one thing, skip this, glitch that, bug those, stack there. I don’t see any real PvE behind it….
Just my 2 cents though….

Xillllix.3485:

Anet nerfed the ele so bad that there are only 2 builds that function properly with slight variants, and one of those 2 builds let you survive while the other lets you burst and die. They claimed in the past to have improved the ele build variety but all their “effort” ended up being a massive failure. The class doesn’t even have an elite worth using in WvW.

The only thing possible to keep up is play the meta, and that is celestial stats and might stacking right now with 0/2/0/6/6 or 0/0/2/6/6. If they nerf that the class will be literally worthless.

0/0/6/4/4 on d/d is interesting for dueling condi builds but in every other context it’s useless. Condi builds really have their shortcoming.

Well, I can only second this. The history of Elementalists is filled with a lot of unnecessary nerfs and that is the reason a spec like D/D Cele Ele became a thing, because we basically don’t have any other spec which can be played “competitively”.

Remember RTL? Lava font? Stunbreaks?……….

Two words: Intended behaviour

/topic

I’m from AG too, however since the megaserver thing, it does not matter that much

You can add me in-game of course, I’d be happy to help you if you catch me online, I don’t play much lately, mainly doing dailies though.

Anyway, GL & HF m8

Well, I noticed a differrence in the recent LS too. The monsters seem to obviously focus me (even though I don’t attack and only summon illusions on my mesmer), which is weird and certainly not normal AI behaviour. Dunno if this is intended, just sharing my observation.

Edit: “Observation” fits better than “experience”

Bellizare.5816:

Still hoping for a change.

I admire your optimism, regardless how blind it is…

Ppl are leaving due to this, that’s a fact. If there were something Anet want to do about this issue, they would already told that, because they know.
This silence proves only one thing, there’s nothing to announce about this issue, or the reaction would make more ppl leave, obviously.

AlliedKhajiit.2794:

Jana.6831:

AlliedKhajiit.2794:

Well if I remember correctly, the justification they gave for changing the traits was “for the new players”, so to me, that equates to the “new player experience”, because it’s not the same experience I had when I played my first character.

No:
https://www.guildwars2.com/en/news/traits-unleashed-forty-new-traits-and-more/

Has got nothing to do with new players.

Then I guess I have zero problems with the NPE and my only problem is the screwed up trait system. That’s subjective, of course.

Actually, yeah, we have the same problem. I don’t care about NPE either, maybe except the personal story changes it brought (everybody knows what I mean).
Sometimes, I even laugh about that, like when the game shows me the “tutorial message” about the BLTC when gaining lvl 59, that’s ridiculous

Frenk.5917:

STRanger.5120:

Do you have 4 or 6 points in the water?

I have 6 points. I run the standard 0 0 2 6 6 D/D Cele build

So the combination I wrote is probably the best one, with the one switchable trait, which depends on your personal preference. Just try it and you’ll see which one fits you better m8.
Have fun

Dondagora.9645:

…..and maybe even Clone on boonstrip

Shatter Mesmer likes that idea
http://wiki.guildwars2.com/wiki/Shattered_Concentration

My problem with PvE is simple, there’s none.

Sorry if it sounds weird to someone, but I don’t consider this skip/glitch/stackfest to deserve to be named PvE. It’s more like PvGame – without any rules.

For those which are about to force me their opinion about making my own groups etc., this is irrelevant to me. The result of succesful run is based on those who can do it the fastest way (rewards mainly), so there’s no motivation to do it “regularly” at all.

Just my 2c

I guess it doesn’t really matter, they won’t do it anyway…
The trait aquisition change is much bigger problem imho….

Do you have 4 or 6 points in the water?
With 6 points, I prefer to use Cantrip mastery + Soothing distruption + Cleansing water.

Soothing wave seems too weak for me, as it procs only when critically hit and the regen is short.

However, you can always switch the Soothing distruption for the Cleansing wave if it fits you better, I prefer to have “on demand” regen even outside of water attunement thanks to Soothing distruption.

Hope that this helps you decide

Thinking that the absence of a Trinity system (or some modification of it) will be actually a good thing for PvE….
I feel like an i d i o t since realizing that GW2 has no dungeon PvE at all because of it……..

insaneseagull.7063:

Spanny.9256:

lemme repeat that: your mind wrack needs to hit 3 separate times in order to accumulate the damage remotely similar to a thieves stealthed backstab.

It has to hit 3 times,indeed,but whereas a thief’s backstab only hits once you hit THREE times. You can negate a thief’s backstab,but alot harder negating all three shatters. Shatter is also AOE,a thieves backstab is not. A shatter can remove boons on hit (1 removed boon per illusion shattered,also AOE), a thief’s backstab does not.

Also, don’t forget that you can hit 4 times with shatter, even from stealth if you don’t screw up, the AOE and boon stripping is a nice bonus for that

Sadly, it’s intended…..

endersluck.4708:

Irina.7418:

Anyway, unlike a thief or a mesmer, a ranger doesn’t come from nowhere. If you don’t look around from time to time, that’s your problem. And, if a rapid fire from a ranger kills you, what about a backstab thief, who can actually pop from nowhere?

1500 range + lb 3 +lb 2

pseudo thief ranger

Yeah, really “pseudo” because LB #3 has to actually hit to stealth the ranger, therefore making the target aware of his presence.

masterJP.5048:

Ranger is kinda op in Pvp now.

cough cough

Agreed with the rest ;-)

Well, I actually really enjoyed the targeting system of Tera, it was something new and it’s very active gameplay.
I wouldn’t have returned to GW2 if Tera was not so time-consuming (Equipment grind etc…) and Gameforge so bad in game management. Also I don’t exactly like those typical “asian” stuff added to a fantasy game, like police cars, school outfits and similar “weird” things…
I really enjoyed the combat in Tera, on all classes I played (everything except the Reaper, I hate Elins ). And even the PvE was good there, it has a modified trinity system, but at least it has a system. It’s not like here, where stacking, skipping, glitching is somehow considered “skillful” even though it just degraded PvE into a total boredom….

maniamsmart.7981:

Wanze.8410:

The average amount of common mats you get is not influenced by the rarity of the kit but the item you salvage.
A chestpiece yields more than a glove, a 2 handed weapon yields more than a 1 handed weapon.

True, but I do remember salvaging a chestplate and sometimes getting 2, other times getting 3. So I was wondering if that is affected by the rarity. But that’s pretty interesting that each item still has its own percentage of rare materials through salvage.

Or there’s a possibility that even the crude salvage kit has some chance to salvage rarer materials, it’s just not described on the tooltip. Maybe the chance is same as the “upgrade recovery” chance, which seems to be around 5% according to wiki.

Thief – top tier DPS class, useful utilities (Shadow refuge, shortbow blasts, lot of AOE stealth possibilities).

That pretty much sums it up and answers your question.

Short answer: Yes

Redxon.6832:

STRanger.5120:

Redxon.6832:

see ya, also good luck learning to be a better person, I can tell you don’t have many friends.

Actually, you can’t. Which is the funny part, you assuming something like that according to a few forum posts

You came back to talk trash… proof of troll!

Hmm, you started it with the “better person assumption”, bad luck m8, troll mark falls on your head this time I just wished you a good luck, hoping for a peaceful end of this argue.

Redxon.6832:

see ya, also good luck learning to be a better person, I can tell you don’t have many friends.

Actually, you can’t. Which is the funny part, you assuming something like that according to a few forum posts

Redxon.6832:

STRanger.5120:

Redxon.6832:

STRanger.5120:

Redxon.6832:

Ayrilana.1396:

So the number of alts and gear reflects skill?

well waht u want? these are 2 different games but i am in imperial allegiance, one of the best HM op running guilds in the game, and I lead runs every week -take that as you will you are obviously just a troll.

Yet you failed to learn a basics of an easy game like GW2 is with the easiest class like warrior is in more than a half-year playtime. GJ :-)

You should be really proud of yourself…

im not trying to be proud of my self – i just know when i am good at something and when i am not good at something. meanwhile you have done nothing but troll.

Actually, I was the first who wrote an advice with the storyline achievement you mentioned as “too hard to do”, while you completely ignored that and just stated yours “truth”.

So there are two possibilities, you are refusing to play this game properly and complaining, hoping that you achieve something by it, or you’re the worst troll I’ve ever spotted on any forums….

You are funny I will give you that, but honestly if you want to see the worst troll in history just look at your own posts.

I don’t have to, because I’d written them.
Also, you should look what the term “troll” means, I think you don’t get it….

Anyway, GL with learning the game basics, it looks like you have a lot of study to do.

Redxon.6832:

Ayrilana.1396:

So the number of alts and gear reflects skill?

well waht u want? these are 2 different games but i am in imperial allegiance, one of the best HM op running guilds in the game, and I lead runs every week -take that as you will you are obviously just a troll.

Yet you failed to learn a basics of an easy game like GW2 is with the easiest class like warrior is in more than a half-year playtime. GJ :-)

You should be really proud of yourself…

Sandrox.9524:

Jim Hunter.6821:

Sandrox.9524:

And like I said,you will dodge,but you first take more than 50% of the dmg and it is still alot.(in situations when RF comes from nowhere).

Rapid fire never comes from nowhere. If you aren’t capable of scanning your surroundings and are too slow to react then you shouldn’t play so glassy.

Sandrox.9524:

My counter to this is Why should I waste block just on the 1st arrow while I get the rest of the arrows? while on eviscerate-blocking really blocks all the attack?

You really just don’t know how the game works do you? Block skills end after 1 melee hit, for projectiles they block for the full duration of the block skill.
Example: http://wiki.guildwars2.com/wiki/Riposte “The riposte only activates if an attack is blocked while in melee range of a target. However, the riposte will not not activate when a ranged attack is blocked; therefore, all ranged attacks will be blocked for the duration of the block.”

Sandrox.9524:

The moment you compare zergs and thieves groups to a single RF ranger just prove my point thank you

I have never once since this game was in beta been instantly burst down by a RF ranger. In fact I am struggling to remember ever dying to a solo RF ranger. The few rangers I’ve run into that gave me a hard time were condi regen.

Sandrox.9524:

The SECOND my health starts dropping…you said it requires 1.25 seconds to get 50% health down,so SECOND is like 40%?and that’s like 1200m away.

He said it takes 1.25 seconds for a rapid fire to deliver half of its damage. If 50% of rapid fire = 50% of your life then, once again, you need to stop playing so glassy.

Sandrox.9524:

The average reaction time for human is 0.50 seconds if you doing other things,that is half second of RF already,and most ppl cannot react in half second nor pop dodge or anything in middle of a fight

Average human reaction time falls between .15 and .3 seconds. If you can’t react in over half a second then that is because you are much slower than the average person.

Wow……How can one become so ignorant.Dude your loved proffesion,doing sick dmg 1200m away,and yes 50% of rf is like almost 40% of your health,while backstab does 50% at most.You giving me a kitteng warrior skill and say that all blocks work that way ? omfg and you say I DONT KNOW how the game works…..and on top of all you think that average reaction time is 0.15 sec to 0.30 and think it is the real reaction time that you have in gw2.That time is in perfect conditions,for example when you drive it is much higher and it is higher with each varieble that is added to the equation(like weather).Unless you have like zen powers or on kittenload of ritalin.And dont worry about me playing glassy,I pretty much deal very nice with RF rangers,what is kittenes me off is the occaisonaly,RF ranger coming from out of my LOS from huge distance and burst me.And I would not argue with you anymore.Im tired of this balance wars anet is doing which set this forum a blaze.

Stop making things up and all will be happy. Thanks for participating though….
Also, why do you QQ if you don’t have any problems with LB rangers? That seems weird….

Redxon.6832:

Yeah it’s pretty tough honestly i think im gonna quit living story stuff altogether and just focus on world boss train and try to fin da guild that focuses on lower level zones, imo they are the most fun to play in.

I don’t see what’s hard about setting a mine (one key-press), position behind it (one key press) and luring the group of wolves into it (one mouse-click and one key-press).

Can someone enlighten me?

(sorry, but I really can’t hold myself….)

Redxon.6832:

Xander.9024:

Redxon.6832:

As i said, warrior is my main…gonna ignore the trolls now, look at their post history they always trolling peoples threads instead of making any constructive posts.

maddoctor.2738:

Redxon.6832:

especially lvl 80 areas and i am fully geared and traited and achievements are pretty much impossible. hopefully things will change guess in the meantime ill go back to swtor, dont mind paying 15 a month if i actually enjoy playing the game.

What are you doing and you have a problem? And which Achievements are you talking about?

SIlverwaste its just ridiculously hard and all the events fail and even the story achievements i cant get a single one done.

That’s odd. When I go to Silverwastes none of the events fail. I see people getting the Dolyaks to the camps, reclaiming camps, and so on. Just out of curiosity though, which story achievements are trying to get?

I can’t get any of the story achievemnts. for example i just tried the one where u escort mission and dont let the npcs die, and i even had 2 people in a group with me, and 1 npc always dies.

Use the mines (plant on the dead husk bodies) and you’ll see it’s not that hard to do.
You see? Everything has it’s solution.

Redxon.6832:

As i said, warrior is my main…gonna ignore the trolls now, look at their post history they always trolling peoples threads instead of making any constructive posts.

Or we just really don’t have those troubles you’re talking about here, did that even come to your mind? This game really isn’t hard, especially PvE part….

fireflyry.7023:

Redxon.6832:

You are the one who needs to read, I never said “i’m only playing guardian.”

Dude…you quite clearly stated:

Redxon.6832:

Guardian? I don’t play guardian at all, and I have a lvl 80 ranger too but warrior is my main.

…but you have also stated:

Redxon.6832:

I have 1 of each class and many level 80s, but I love warrior and ranger the best.

Redxon.6832:

I feel like guardians are very well loved in dungeons, and I’ve been playing mine more and was wondering what all you’d recommend.

It’s hardly rocket science.

On topic your playing the game badly. I don’t get two shotted on my zerker thief by champs in lvl 80 zones.

Again, the game is not at fault here. You are specifically doing something wrong.

I wasn’t fast enough, however thanks for sparing me the effort m8

Redxon.6832:

STRanger.5120:

Redxon.6832:

Yargesh.4965:

Redxon.6832:

Yargesh.4965:

Redxon.6832:

Its hard cus warrior is the only class I can actually play, but even my warrior gets 2 shotted by champs in lvl 80 areas.

and swtor is a million times smoother cus u can have companions that fight with you and if you get a healer companion they can follow you and heal you which makes things much better.

What about the guard that you only play or the ranger that you only play?

Guardian? I don’t play guardian at all, and I have a lvl 80 ranger too but warrior is my main.

Ah well must be someone else’s post history linked to your name.

which post did i say i played guardian? troll harder

This one perhaps?

“I feel like guardians are very well loved in dungeons, and I’ve been playing mine more and was wondering what all you’d recommend. I use staff and GS, and strength in numbers, and some signets mostly atm. what are the most common and useful setups to have? things that really help the group and make people say “WOOT A GUARDIAN!!”
I always feel safer when I see a guardian in the party, I think it’s the shield icon.”

that was from 6 months ago and I only said I’m playing it more, not “I’m only playing guardian.”

Read your question again my friend, you’ll manage to understand the answer, hopefully.