Guild Wars 2

I don’t know about warrior in same situation, but I was hitting 27-33k gravediggers every 2 seconds when the boss was below 50%. Assuming nothing else and 4 whole gravediggers in that time frame, it would already be on scale of 120k. From what I see, your problem is that you focus too much on reaper’s shroud instead of your weapon skills (Mainly dagger auto and gravedigger).

Glad to hear that the fix is coming.

They should just reduce the delay to like 0,1 seconds.

It’s pretty good combination in pvp though, when using chill/vuln stack build. You can go full cavalier/valkyrie gear and still damage comparable to berserker. The vulnerability stacks are easily obtained.

cakeonroof.7385:

Targuil.3741:

This is what I did to a glass chronomancer yesterday. I think you could reach 16-17k if you actually minmaxed it without help of teammates.

How much did that Mesmer get paid to AFK?

IF that Mesmer didn’t get paid then that is ONE REALLY BAD MESMER.

Chronomancers own Reapers. The stuns are more than enough to beat reapers but they also blind.

Are you guys in NA? Maybe bad mesmers like that only exist in NA

I paid 10g to that mesmer.

Jokes aside, the mesmer was downed. Even they can get wrekt when you chase through all their bullkitten in RS. Also, EU.

trytonianYeti.4389:

sephiroth.4217:

trytonianYeti.4389:

sephiroth.4217:

Reaper can 1v4 pretty kitten good in close encounters..

I think it’s mostly perma 25 might mixed with 25 vuln ontop of damage amplifiers though, or atleast where my damage spikes come from anyway.

GS 2 skill crits for 12-18k and reaper 4+5 skills hit another 12k+ each ontop of wells and the freeze bomb.

Golems that don’t dodge nor hit back does not count.

Not defending the Reaper. I haven’t even played it. But Ive encountered it many times recently and it’s not hard to beat.

When did I say golems? Please point that out to me buddy unless you’re just putting words in my mouth?

You said so yourself you haven’t played reaper so why comment?

Because I’ve beaten it with non HoT builds. I don’t have to play it if I’ve beaten it. Learning to play it should be reserved for people that complain it’s op

so where’s your buddy then?

Does he have screenshots? Those numbers are skewed way too high. I fought reapers and don’t remember getting hit that hard, even on my shatter mesmer

This is what I did to a glass chronomancer yesterday. I think you could reach 16-17k if you actually minmaxed it without help of teammates.

Highscore!
15c

14,8k gravedigger in a spvp match against chronomancer. I don’t think it’s nerfed.

First thing I thought about when I saw the cooldown reduction was “they probably forgot Spiteful Spirit” and then It was actually true. In any case, I doubt anyone used this trait before, but maybe someone would if it didn’t have an icd.

The fact that stunbreaks with cast time can be interrupted (stripped of stability and cc’d) says everything there is to say.

ebslike.1852:

Swamurabi.7890:

Actually, Chess has 20 possible opening moves, which is more than GW2 has, and I’m not counting surrendering or asking for a draw. Chess modeling also has to take into consideratin the zone of control that a piece will have when moved, which will affect the opponents options or even set up a move later on.

As for when to do an action, NOT ACTING is an action and can be accounted for, so can moving to optimum range (kiting/closing).

Movement to a point and distance between points are also things that can be put in the decision matrix of the program.

You don’t have to model realisitcally, just by crunching the possible combinations you can judge the level of player skill needed to achieve a certain level of a build’s TTK.

What do you consider an opening move? Elementalist has 20 skills from just their weapon that they can open with and that is just 1 class….

To take it further, you could wait 1 frame, 2 frames… etc before and between excecuting skills, making them different actions. Add in ability to move in any direction at any point (relevant when judging skill ranges) and you already have thousands of options per skill per second of game time passed.

ZudetGambeous.9573:

Targuil.3741:

I just took 11k chill damage in death log from a fellow cond reaper, while playing cond reaper myself. I wouldn’t just shrug off that damage, but I do admit that blighter’s boon’s sustain may trump it.

Meanwhile guardians GM traits and builds let you take 100k+ burn damage in the death log….

Even if it is ok for PvP, it is not good enough for PvE, where balance is just as important now that they’ve gone the raiding route.

That’s 11k from a single trait on top of everything else. You can’t really compare that to a whole burn build.

I just took 11k chill damage in death log from a fellow cond reaper, while playing cond reaper myself. I wouldn’t just shrug off that damage, but I do admit that blighter’s boon’s sustain may trump it.

Lf 1 forum necro for balance raid against d/d eles.

Had a 62,5k burn 18k bleed death log few days ago, I know I should’ve screencapped it…

I think he means finisher as in finishing downed players. The new daredevil’s elite does that.

I was doubtful and reserved at first. Thanks for proving my doubts wrong, these are legit changes! (Especially GS, death’s charge and baseline effects on shouts)

Dagger auto>GS.

Don’t get your hopes too high is all I’m saying. I’ve learnt my lesson long ago. Better just wait till the patchnotes hit the ground.

Don’t stand in wells and don’t condiburst unless you’re ready to cleanse/avoid whatever they may transfer back. There, now go bag those free kills.

Also, read the patch notes, necros did get nerfed.

Vydahr.4285:

nolop.8095:

It’s just that nobody has managed to use DS to it’s full potential. If people would finally learn how to use DS it would negate all the shortcomings necromancers have.

I… what. What are you talking about? Seriously. Because I’m pretty sure there are plenty of players here on the forums that use death shroud fabulously, and still have glaring weaknesses in their builds. Not just regular old weaknesses like every class should have, but blatantly obvious ones that are as broken negatively as the Ele Elite is broken positively (for them)

It’s a reference to almost 3 year old statement we got when we were whining around necromancer. I wouldn’t be surprised If they dropped it on us again though…

LionChain.7694:

…make it replace Enfeebling Shroud or Lingering Curse…neither of those are worthy of being a GM trait

a… what? Enfeebling Shroud is probably our second best trait right after plague sending for pvp currently.

Rym.1469:

“Revenant is actual proof that devs read the necromancer forum” – Pelopidas.2140

This

This is 2 weeks old already, you’re late 2 meta.

…can we finally have better blinds overall? You could start by halving Well of Darkness’ cooldown.

Necro axe is useless and corruptions plain suck… better nerf Chilling Darkness!

Every single time I’m starting to think they understand something about the class they prove that they actually don’t. I won’t ever fall to that again. (Until next patch notes)

Currently fear isn’t even corrupted correctly from stability.

Axe is beyond repair with traits, the whole weapon needs a rework.

leman.7682:

What is the other profession that is so heavily based on autoattacking? I pay 10g to the first person that gives me a viable necro build that isn’t based on dealing most of the damage with auto-attacks.

Condition minionmancer. Most of my outgoing damage comes transfers, death novas and various bleeding burst combos. Definetly viable for soloQ at least. And you can’t really expect necromancer to be viable anywhere else anyway, autoattacking or no autoattacking.

Your presummoned minions give you 10% life force for some reason (bone fiend, shadow fiend and flesh golem)

Harper.4173:

Will some classes ( see necro

no

Preliminary test in soloque suggests it, combined with plague sending and weapon transfers, completely counters every condition build.

I’m able to do ~25 seconds in spvp.

He’s dueling a 11k health guardian.

At least Moa doesn’t directly kill us…

Can we ask for the well deserved Well of Blood buff from back when it was nerfed with half duration and laughable healing buff. We might actually have some viable healing skill now that CC is garbage.

Lordrosicky.5813:

Plague is now the worst skill in game lol. Gonna make a hilarious video after release. I reackon i can 1v1 myself just by activating plague with the trait lol

Can you keep yourself in combat for long enough? Actually that might be possible now with all the corruption conditions…

Not much here to disagree with. I’d add Scepter 3 to other concerns though. The skill just feels out of place, has decently long cast time and no impact. Not to mention no benefit at all from the weapon specific trait.

This, or shelter treatment.

Just reroll engi or wait for revenant.

EremiteAngel.9765:

Zetsumei.4975:

I think you need a reminder of how necros do in top tier spvp and re-evaluate whether those builds are to be considered ‘strong’. Unless you mean are they capable of killing the average casual pug then sure there are countless gimmick builds in the game that can be considered strong.

you also need a reminder that not everything is spvp…

This wont make us anywhere near meta in pve either.

And axe is still horrible, focus didn’t need range but cast time reduction, scepter 3 saw no changes etc…

Putting minor details aside: They may be viable in context of necromancer and maybe current power levels, but are they viable after all the other classes’ power creep?

Josh Davis.6015:

Nevz.3058:

Ye what about Shelter as Mora asked? Is it going to be under the meditations category or consecrations category?

Shelter will not be getting a skill category. It would probably need to be adjusted in someway if we did do it – and it’s fine where it is right now.

Please do this to consume conditions…

I think you’re on to something! You can even prevent allies from getting stomped by teleporting them to you!

Common scenario regarding Consume Conditions: You win a fight with decent amount of conditions on you, you want to clear them up to get out of combat and your only other removes are actually transfers or require opponents otherwise so you can’t use them. You use Consume Conditions to get out of combat… oh wait you won’t anymore.

In short, necro mobility got nerfed, as if there was barely anything to nerf in first place but still.

It’s a 8 second duration pulsing stability. I’d be more worried about blinds.

I wouldn’t mind bone fiends really.

I’m reserving my opinion for tomorrow. I admit there is some potential.

We’re going to turn to permanent lich form. Necromancer Fixed.