Guild Wars 2

Just read the thread. Now I’m even more excited for the Feb 26th patch!

Colin just confirmed the “loot bug” and guess what, DR has nothing to do with it.

https://forum-en.gw2archive.eu/forum/game/gw2/Update-on-Loot-Drops-Investigation/first#post1462956

It took months, but we finally have vindication. Good job Anet, can’t wait for the next patch.

Focus discussion/feedback/tears of joy here.

No to Exclamation point ‘kill 10 x.’
Yes to rewarding world interaction with semi-hidden objectives.

StevesDad.8213:

I agree with his points, but are we really seriously supposed to know who “WoodenPotatoes” is and have this feeling that his opinion somehow matters more than someone else’s? Why is this person relevant? Who cares? Just say “this guy said” or whatever. The internet gives so many people the false sense of importance

This.

I’m not sure why Wooden Potatoes should have more say than any Iron Tomatoes out there on a personal opinion about how he would personally enjoy the game and what he personally does not like of it.

Go comment on his video if you care about his opinion, GW2 community has a whole cares of the community’s whole opinion and no Steel Broccoli out there represents the community.

If he feels hollow that’s his problem, doesn’t make it an objective issue of everyone just because the guy has, uh, 6k views?
GW2 is played by 3 million people.

Ursan.7846:

Someone else who disagrees with WP.

http://whyigame.wordpress.com/2013/02/17/gw2-traditional-quests-hell-no/

Though WP is quality.

A very good rebuttal. I usually agree with woodenpotatoes but I only agree in part to this current topic, pretty much along the lines of this particular blog.

Again, I agree with the premise of the issue, just not with WP’s solution.

Ursan.7846:

Someone else who disagrees with WP.

http://whyigame.wordpress.com/2013/02/17/gw2-traditional-quests-hell-no/

Though WP is quality.

I agree with this reply!

While WP has some good points, I don’t really see how GW2 is hollow compared to other MMOs (Which I- in my opinion-think are hollow)

Someone else who disagrees with WP.

http://whyigame.wordpress.com/2013/02/17/gw2-traditional-quests-hell-no/

Though WP is quality.

I agree with his points, but are we really seriously supposed to know who “WoodenPotatoes” is and have this feeling that his opinion somehow matters more than someone else’s? Why is this person relevant? Who cares? Just say “this guy said” or whatever. The internet gives so many people the false sense of importance

Question: What happens when you finish the quests? Does it go back to being hollow again? Even with a game that has been around for 8 plus years (like another mmorpg we all know) eventually you finish it all. People are expecting too much too soon from this game.

6 armor pieces:
- Orr Karma Merchants
- Dungeon Tokens
- Crafting / Trading Post

Weapons:
- Dungeon Tokens
- Crafting / Trading Post

Trinkets:
- 2x Earrings from crafting / Trading Post
- 2x Ascended rings from fractals or laurel merchant
- 1x Ascended Backpiece from fractals
- 1x Ascended Amulet from laurels

And I think They (yes, with capital t) are secretly supporting the North Korean weapons tests to ensure world domination of the masonic movement.

lothefallen.7081:

It’s a good game, but the combat in this game is put to shame by the depth available in GW1. I know of all the myriad balancing issues the first game held, but it almost always felt really well balanced in my opinion. I think they really had a chance to do what they did in GW1, but better here by avoiding the pitfall of dual-classing, avoiding only having to work around instanced, lobby-based content, etc. Although i’m enjoying what we do have currently, i’m sad to say that the PvP just falls flat. Team structure just doesn’t seem as integral. The lack of a direct healer role only serves to homogenize most of the class designs, i feel. I just don’t feel the combat in this game. It doesn’t seem as social as an MMO should feel. Combat just doesn’t engage me and i think they could have had made one of the best MMOs to launch in history if they just had more structure to the combat roles. I still feel very strongly that removing the monk class and doing what they did with the class / skill system was a grievous mistake. The whole game just lacks a hook. There are tons of things that GW1 just does way better, including getting players to play together in meaningful ways and not splintering the story to the point of nullification and segregation of appeal.

Sure it was much more fun in Guild Wars 1 to go into random arenas, and know as soon as you saw the other side had a healer and you didn’t that the match was over. That was tons of fun.

Just because you haven’t worked out the syergy, doesn’t mean the synergy for teams isn’t there. I talk to teams that have synergy from time to time, having worked out various strategies. Different doesn’t have to mean worse.

And for all the skills in Guild Wars 1, and there were tons of them, there are four or five PvP builds used for each profession at any given time. As the meta changed the builds changed, but you knew what people were going to use in general.

Guild Wars 1 gave the illusion of depth…which is all well and nice. Guild Wars 2 does a much better job of hiding its depth, which means novices can pick it up much more easily. That doesn’t mean however that the depth isn’t there.

Some people see it, and some people refuse to see it.

Mine goes to a human female ranger – “Sara Farcher”.

lol say it fast!

The purpose of this thread is to keep track of current theories for the search of Final Rest and be a reference for related threads (on reddit & here). I will update it from time to time as new information arises so that we all can figure out what we want to focus our efforts on as a community.

Please feel free to post below or in other threads if you have any compelling proof to add, cool suggestions or new/missing theories to add to the list.

Current Theories:

1. Zho’Qafa Catacombs (1)
2. Shadow Behemoth (2)
3. Andarzbad (3)
4. Hidden Boss in Dungeon (e.g.: Ascalon Catacombs)
5. Zhaitan’s Rest POI in Arah
6. Not in game loot-tables

Debunked Theories
Mystic Forge – Official dev response says it can’t be crafted. (4)

Official Responses
“The only hint I will give on FInal Rest is this: You cannot make it. It is dropped from a LARGE boss chest.” (4)

“It’s exactly as Linsey stated previously—it’s a loot drop from a specific (rare) boss.” (5)

References
(1) http://www.reddit.com/r/Guildwars2/comments/135pkq/how_i_think_you_obtain_the_final_rest_staff_chest/
(2) http://www.reddit.com/r/Guildwars2/comments/16hpsx/another_final_rest_theory_shadow_behemoth/
(3) http://www.reddit.com/r/Guildwars2/comments/16hgji/new_theory_about_final_rest/
(4) https://dviw3bl0enbyw.cloudfront.net/uploads/forum_attachment/file/14636/Final_Rest.png
(5) https://forum-en.gw2archive.eu/forum/support/bugs/Final-Rest-Staff-Not-On-Loot-Tables-Bug
(6) https://forum-en.gw2archive.eu/forum/game/gw2/Idea-on-Final-Rest/first#post1197836
(7) http://www.reddit.com/r/Guildwars2/comments/15gxny/final_rest_lets_find_this_thing/
(8) https://forum-en.gw2archive.eu/forum/game/crafting/Final-Rest-how-do-you-get-it

Addendum
Thanks go out to all members of the community who have already researched and provided valuable input in our treasure hunt for this item.

Also if anyone high up wants to give us more hints… that’d be real swell.

Edit: Wow.. I have been neglectful of this thread, and you have all been putting some great effort in. I will update this post very soon to reflect this discussion

I’d have to say my only gripes with Guild Wars 2 is the general lack of armor-appearance variety during the low levels, and that hearts have become more of a “okay, what do I need to kill” type system. Sometimes there are other gimmicks, but a lot of times it can or does just boil down to simply killing the creature specified in the blurb. I guess I should mention the newb levels can be pretty harsh without running into a few events between each heart, which is asking a lot actually. Finally, along with armor, climates seem fairly samey across zones. Human lands are mostly grasslands, Norn mostly snowy mountains, Charr mostly wartorn plains, etc.

Otherwise, GW2 > others. Aion has pretty armors, weapons, housing, and I actually find the skill system fun, but it’s forced PvP. Blegh.

WoW, I like the class variety, but those first ten levels, like here, are brutal, but the boring, mundane “spam a single button” brutal, and despite having 400 spells, I only really need 3 or 4 by level cap on trash.

TERA, once you’ve killed your first Ghilledieu, you’ve experienced every single PvE trash mob fight in the game, they just get hardier as you level up. Also, it has been SO streamlined, so simplified, gear is literally a matter of just finding bigger numbers and using the right crystal setup. One can’t even really tell what half the stats provide, because no explanation is given as to how much of Y stat = X chance. Min-maxing is virtually impossible. Some people might view that as a good thing, I view GW2’s build possibilities as a min-maxing paradise in comparison, and that’s a fun prospect to look forward to.

One thing I’ve discovered is that going back to a “rooted” combat system is a non-starter for me. The fluidity of combat in this game has ruined any chance of enjoying other MMOs that plant you in the ground every time you use a skill.

It’s kind of like going back to your POS Hyundai after driving your buddy’s Porsche for a weekend. I’m just glad I actually own this baby.

Have you checked the patch noted at all in the last month?

Heres a hint
“Dynamic Leveling
Attribute calculations for dynamic level scaling have been rebalanced. In general, this means weaker when adjusted down, stronger when adjusted up. Rewards when adjusted down have been increased to compensate. It is now possible to receive your own level of loot from any level of enemy.”

Do you think they’ll ever bring it back? I hope they do.
If you don’t know what it is… http://wiki.guildwars2.com/wiki/Hunger_Royale
And may the odds be ever in your favor

You could just run further away from the action. If you didn’t drop combat and were all alone in the middle of nowhere then maybe I would say there was a problem.

If we had a drop combat button that would be heavily abused for WP ressing and simply escaping from combat when you are low, denying everyone a kill.

Sovta.4719:

YES!!! We need this! If you think we don’t then you are noob. If someone took his time to learn to play and wants EFFICIENCY in dungeon he should not suffer by playing with noobs.

If someone wants efficiency in dungeons he won’t play with pugs

Yes for inspecting the skin.

No for inspecting the stats.

First off. If you want to make money in dungeons hiding with an mf set will only slow you down while hardly increasing drops. You grind the gold off bosses and rewards when running dungeons. Therefor Omnom bar is all you need. Good examples are CoF and AC, fast runs will net you big money.

Magic find is very useful for DE’s in Orr. I do find my drop rates are better, I get more T6 mats and when in a group with full MF I get an exotic or 2 a day.

Dungeons = No MF

Farming = Max MF