Guild Wars 2

Shanks.2907:

messiah.1908:

i tried spirit weapons and fail with it
they die to fast while doing low dmg and have long cd

Hah, that’s what I figured. I never liked them in the first place but I figured someone might. Too bad because the traits line up really well with the build.

Thanks for your time.

I fought one of this builds yesterday, against heavy regen classes with easy cleanse conditions is easy to kite it somight be hard even with rotations since i could get my health up w/o healing, but i did find interesting that build against other classes, if u guys could use SoR dont forget that it block progectiles, nade spam, bombs(sacntuary), since SoR mobility is a litle bit better u can command it to target and then blink dps while shield is already at the spot, hammer for command KD before blink.

Animosity.5968:

creepmatic.9435:

The thing is, nobody know what they want with the guardian shield, a lot of ideas had been thrown around on these forums and they are all different most of the time. I guess any change that will make the shield work different is going to be better than it’s actual form. I mean how can you break something that isn’t even used at all.

The biggest problem I think is to make something that will stand beside focus and not try to bite on the warrior shield, which is pretty hard if the resources are limited and no extra animations/mechanic is allowed on the change. Also, the idea of giving aegis to the shield is pretty meh.

You have it right. Will it be hard to change it without ripping off warrior shield and with no new animations? yes probably, it means it has to be a boons or dmg buff. Here’s the thing though, i’d take my chances and see if what they do makes it worse or better. If its better than hurray i can use shield, if its worse then guess what no one used it anyways so who cares.

and yea Aeolus that happens to me all the time. its like the cherry on top of the joke shield. One of the skills don’t even work as intended atleast 50% of the time (from what i’ve played with it)

I use mace – shield combo on wvw (yes im nuts!!!), if the game mode doesnt even support that weapon choices(or support it badly) when its bugged turns out even to be more disappointing , its like anet is forcing players to play how Anet wants since is easier to have 1 build per class to swift metas over time…

Side note: shield 5 bubble also makes Guardian Binding blade to miss since it is a projectille, so it is a good way to save stabillity againts one skill, absortion is really good pitty is the long CD or duration since player must be static to cast it.

http://metabattle.com/wiki/Build:Guardian_-_Altruistic_Healing_Bunker

but is outdated, some lighter classes have mechanics to “bunker” and make better damage, an overall preferable performance.

Side note:
if u meant the traditional tank this game is damage wise only, outside pvp bunkers guardians have no chance againts zerker, they can still crit up and take your health in a few hits if they are clever.

If you want to make a healer for wvw make a engi or elementalist for the waterfield blasting spam, if you insistfor a bunker guardian see it more like a protection monk with minor party regen(this is if u know monks from gw1)

when u press shield 5(without moving) and it turns to last 1 second with the auto explode animation….

working as intended, anet does not care about guardian defensive fixes.

Only dps is a litle but dull, they could use some roles w/o requiring the trinity, what they wanted was a game easy or pretend that is balanced with low maintenance on that aspect, they are trying to get the balance towards the DPS role all defense/buff system is purely secondary.

The actual mindset of gameplay is like, if it kills in 3 or 5 seconds, counting blocks evades etc, its is working, if class cant do that need to be reworked so players dont need to learn class and kill fast as if they were good players, if class is reported to be overpowered in severall aspects they will make it better on the OP role and rework all the other aspects of the class at the end players are happy and keep playing and rolling as if it the ultimate skill of all mmo’s.

Its sad to have 1 guild flag on a castle that worths nothing, and that dont atrack players.
Problem is the value/ design of WvW, anet keep compensating with rewards when time spent doing WvW is not rewarding itself wich i fear they are to obtuse to see that way, they dont know/ or care about leaving the simplistic themeapark pvd game that is WvW.

NPC event would be fun actually but not in this state, I.E the design and functionally of the maps are what cause some of the most limitations ,and its not the map size but its design, like more care into design castles and not gw1 shrines with walls, also fast movement should be a luxury to have in this “small” maps or even in the whole game except in 1 or 2 classes.

As i stated in the past, and topics like this apear almost every day, most of WvW ideas were given on the GH CDI, i believe Anet got there a good example of how some part of the community was interested in new development arround it.

They need to rework on some aspects of the game(classes inclueded) but due logic improvements i prefer to see it stale than observing bad decisions and a game i loved to play getting worse.

messiah.1908:

i dont fully agree

ah works on 5 allies so there is not much difference between big group to small group
the main difference is shouts support your team while meditation support you
but both can work well at the same environment

Problem sometimes is to have those 4 allies (the 5th is the player). :P

I am still trying to see how this is an abuse of power OP, they are dev’s, they can flip from one server to another as an observers or to perform some command actions for somethign they saw, it is a valid reason to set invunerable for a few secs to type those necessary commands.

Proly was observing both servers gameplay, he was tagged up, in the SS looks like players decided to atack him like it would drop a chest with precursors, instead of defend the shrine/ castle.

The first thing i do is drop stuff out of inventory, sometimes have to write the long name to delete those items…

Vayne.8563:

Code.8615:

TheBlackLeech.9360:

You can play “how you want” moreso than ever.

Anet made it so you don’t need to do your dailies at all.

Your Laurels are awarded just for logging in.

Talk about people being misinformed.

There are several, multi-paged threads that cover every possible aspect of that not being true.
So I’d be careful who you call misinformed. Wouldn’t want to look like a hypocrite.

The same can be said about climate change, but I’m pretty sure that people who don’t believe in it are misinformed. lol

The freebies by just login reminds me of Pavlov experiences…. >_>

nGumball.1283:

hydeaut.1758:

Vayne.8563:

By my calculation they’ve been working on it for almost a year already. That’s how long the big names have been silent for.

This would be a 180-degree turn from Mike O´Briens statement within a few months – so maybe you´re even right?

Naah, I don’t think that’s what Vayne means.
Colin mentioned before that aside from Living Story and Feature patches they are working on huge projects that they are going to introduce in the future. Now assuming he wasn’t lying or exaggerating, they should have something to introduce. He also added, that they weren’t sure as to how they wanted to introduce that content. Meaning, that maybe they never thought about an expansion and may consider new ways to implement the content eventhough, I eprsonally would rather have an expansion IF there is content to be implemented.

That 180º makes sense they always did the oposite of the manifesto " GW2 wont be a game where u keep clicking one skill over and over",actually thats what gw2 is about spam 1 atack combat , so an expansion might be near, joking aside lets just wait if it will be has good has factions or nightfall was in gw1.

1- Best Joke ever.
2- WvW improvements.
3- The plenty game mechanics and inovative updates of staleness.

I would love a path to take bad actions on the game >_&gt and set caoson tyria.

Probably he wanted to test some stuff, he might have went to EOTM but enemy karma traint went trough him ignoring it as a target, so he decided to play the test on the useless WvW.

I like sShield 5 skills also can absorb engi nades, but apart of the progectiles absortion is a pretty useless trait for the shield cooldown turns to be a waste of space in most scenarios.
Shield/Spirit weapon/Sanctuary should deserve an improvement, at least on its cooldowns and durations.

Skills cooldown on GW2 is pretty bad since they are equal to other classes without having the same “weight” effect, reason this game sometimes turn out to be a play class to win.

they need to justify the creation of eotm… right?

lordkrall.7241:

I really wonder if all those people shouting about the “extreme lack of content” have ever actually played another MMO before.

Problem with GW2 is not quantity but quality and good graphics does not make a game being good, its the overall game mechanics or lack of them, that makes LS looks limited, this limiting the options\resources that developers have to work when creating new content, and bad decision over that structure will lead to bad fixes, this is what player used to MMO’s are experiencing.

Don’t create environmental conditions to discourage gameplay, thats one of Anet problem in design (they try to manipulate gameplay via those endorsements), it is the otherway there should be created environmental/mechic conditions do encourage several distinct gameplay(EOTM “trash” is a good and bad example ).

Siege being removed would not be a good decision, but enhanced with a different supply system and build, and why not being transformed to mobile siege?
Add new Guild structures that protect/support guilds when taking castle at supply cost, etc most of this theme was discussed on GH CDI wich looked like a Strategy theme within the MMO (crossing fingers for something like this), promoting more open field battle and strategy instead of stacking(because is no longer necessary), funny that GH CDI player started to talk about WvW guild changes >:) .

IF i recall Anet stated due game engine limitation it is not possible to make larger maps, and max population per server i think is arround 80(lesser than 100 for sure) players for what was told.

The change for a new map is good but they need to change alot of WvW stuff before the production of a new map.
We had the Guild Hall CDi probably this will make some changes to WvW maps and servers

Why not open market for ascended?

Colly.4073:

You won’t even get a no. Anet does what they want when they want, I bet none of them even play WvW anymore.

Ive seen some dev once in a while these days.

IF Anet is trying to see players reaction if they have to defend the towers to a future WvW change, since with no swords players tend to hold in walls and wait for the enemy, this is a very bad test and will end in bad result, cause no swords forces more defending and defending is not rewarded and its not even supported by the game mechanics(lets ignore siege only and see WvW as a whole) any large group can take stuff easy by just PVD in this game, theres no value to a guild to hold a castle with their flag IMO this is very important, and having something conquer on WvW should be important and valuable, with this design it is impossible to get a better WvW.

IF you guys want really a good test it is not only by removing the swords, you need to change many other aspect of the game.

The no swords would be good but theres nothing that supports this mechanic to be valuable in game at the moment.

THuGaNoMiX.5036:

nGumball.1283:

Goose.5196:

The Secret World is a better game, get over it.

As said, usually garbage games like GW2 and WoW end up with the most success and biggest popularity. Good games are usually empty for some reason.

Wouldn’t call either game garbage. Never played WoW, but as for it being garbage I’m going to have to highly doubt that.

Guild Wars isn’t garbage at all. If this is your definition of garbage then you haven’t played a lot of the kittenful games I have. LOL

Irony is not strong on this one.

not a window… its a garment on the door….

there are more serious matter that Anet need to look at the moment then look at garments that look like windows.

Server blobs now can divide into smaller groups and attack all several tower/castle at same time, if the servers have just a few scouts and everything being turned paper every time, if one of their groups find resistance they can still blob up and take stuff easily due disparity of population and supply needed.

If server has low WvW population it is freaking worse. (wich might be all except t1 and t2)

evildan.8260:

If you want a vision of the future of WvW, imagine a ram pounding on an undefended door- for ever…

Then their plan must be working, that’s how hard this game can get, and innovative.

Warrior effort to play was to easy with high reward most of the cases, and still has some viable builds outside the bow, guardian by other hand only have meditations for damage build as viable, the suposed “nerf” was a good thing.

Copestetic.5174:

Mavis.1463:

Vayne.8563:

which are the hardest of the entire lot so far.

I get it. Haha
Funny joke.
You can’t seriously think they’re hard.

It’s content that doesn’t require spamming “1”, while following some random dude with a blue tag. Of course it’s hard.

That’s the definition of hard to gw2 players, cant spam all day 1 key, must be hard then.

Cygnus.6903:

Aeolus.3615:

Warrior is one of the classes on game, u just need to tune it and learn its rotations, you should lose against any meditation guardian.

Fixed.

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how that can be a fix?

P.S i dont play for quite some time, did anything change drastically????

Amir.1570:

Anything that isn’t a Long Bow build on Warrior is trash too which is another sad part about it.

ANET clearly has no idea how to balance, but at least it’s not as bad as when Jonathan Sharp was around. Next level incompetence.

I would not call it trash, warriors now need more effort while the old "lack of effort to kill " is now in other classes, what i see here is that players require more effort to kill now outside the bow, while other classes got easier to play.

Anet way of balance if that even exist, is to transfer metas between classes, they dont balance gameplay becouse it is not their moto, they prefer to swift the meta, so some classes ended being used more than others.
As result its the same of an unbalanced game (but with effort to be unbalanced) since there’s no roles or minor roles due DPS being the only role it is easily noticed when classes mechanics start to fall apart and become to underwhelming or the opposite, this will always happen while defense isnt as valuated as damage.

GW2 is a power creep game(only matters DPS), you will find that in every classes, some more than others.

Some classes can have alot of CC and tons of damage at the same time, guardian meditations is the only optimal build they have for best damage yet they can be squishy.

Tip: poison > Heal

Some classes can be unbeatable due your weapon skills or build, while other builds can hardly counter yours, problem i find here is theres no middle term where player skills can be noticed, its the wreck targets in seconds or be wrecked fast, this deppends more of the builds than any player skill.

2nd tip, check what stacks they are using, weapons etc before engage in combat, and try not to 1 vs 1 since some classes are beasts at it.

Warrior is one of the best classes on game, u just need to tune it and learn its rotations, you should win against any kind of guardian imo.

now only maters the necros blob, warior blob is old stuff.

LucosTheDutch.4819:

Don’t listen to people who say “don’t follow the meta”. They don’t know what they’re talking about.

Follow the meta and get yourself a berserker set with scholar runes. Then figure out what meta build you want to play. There is plenty of diversity and plenty of meta builds to choose from depending on which weapons you want to use.

Do you want to be a great support to your team while killing stuff quickly? Play meta.

Do you want to be slow and hold your team back? Don’t play meta.

The choice is yours.

^This, as a non meta player, i always recommend to others to try to follow the suposed meta, theres no point of using any other stats on this game besides zerk, even on defensive “tactic”, kill fast survive longer and follow the game mechanics.

munkiman.3068:

I usually don’t touch mount threads since they end up in toxic irrational arguments. But, the only discussion about mounts is acquisition/variety and whether or not they give a boost in movement speed. We already have mounts in the game and i’d expect they will continue to add them in the future. I also really feel like they’ve done it in a very interesting, Arena type way, with the broom and carpet.

Are you talking about the EOTM transformation?

instead of sit on dead enemy, guardians can always empower on enemies corpses….

>:|

Bryzy.2719:

I’m probably not the only one who has noticed this trend in angry whispers from players (in WvW)…

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Anyway, I assume this is the same case with the rise of the d/d cele ele too – people take this build expecting to be able to beat anyone, therefore getting mad kitten when they don’t. This is something I really, really dislike about the community. It unveils quite a toxic vein of people who play the game.

The problem is not the players, they are just using the game mechanics, Anet gave that mentality to the players with their game balance.

foofad.5162:

I can see the patch notes now.

“Fixed a bug with Shield of Absorption that erroneously displayed duration as 4 seconds. Now correctly reads 2.”

We’ve been asking for Shield to be changed for years now. (It feels weird saying that.) It’s never gonna happen.

i remember Anet saying, when they changed guardian meditations, that they dont want the guardian to have more defensive support than the one that already has (has if it is the sturdiest class in game), so more defensive fixes/changes is not probably gona happen.

Seriously without any roles besides DPS that can blind this game is getting like an instagib mode >_>,atm lower armor classes can fit better has sturdy defenders than guardian .

Thaddeus.4891:

Not all weapons are suppose to be good in all game mode.

D/D is not ideal for PvE, S/X is not ideal for PvP
D/D is really good in PvP, S/X is really good in PvE

That is one of this game “problems”, there’s less variety, not all weapons are designed to fill roles in all modes, it looks a slacker way to try balancing the game.

Omg………….. what’s next?

Conaywea.5062:

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Mmmm yeah the player base was reduced but only was mindless players that only know to press 1 all the day in the same boring map , so was a good thing

I feel its the other way arround, Anet moved them to EOTM and is working on LS making it lesser zergy , other game modes are being almost ignored, and those players were the ones that are mostly ignoring the game atm.

Anet role model caters Pve and EOTM.

IMO Anet should rework the game stats, so the roles would be better defined, as example berzerker would increase in power but had a negative armor value, its berzerker after all (and having equal stats on other attributes is not balanced at all since classes make less from them and other way to much), its is like a small rework on other stats value and leave celestial alone, wonder if the other stats gets modified celestial would turn out balanced at the end.

GW2 has lesser thing to balance compared to its precursor and yet everything looks so broken….

Filaha.1678:

I don’t see how one person can permanently disable siege if you could build catapults and just place them far enough apart that one disabler cannot hit both. Even better, you can put them far enough away that they can’t throw it far enough to disable them without coming out.

Rams aren’t the only siege tool.

people use catapult as rams…. no air time :P

Knighthonor.4061:

Azhure.1857:

Reducing player base = Reducing customer base

Why the kitten would they “want” to do that?

I was wondering the same actually.

Or probably renew/reset the player base, iv’e noticed Anet love Skrits as player base, they will accept any shinny “stuff” as major update.

>:]

lold!

@OP, silvery were to be similiar to elves, but Anet changed their look becouse they looked to human.

http://assets.overclock.net.s3.amazonaws.com/9/9d/9d6129db_vbattach223806.jpeg

http://s227.photobucket.com/user/HylianFTW/media/s1.png.html

rhapsody.3615:

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You’re talking about crafting as if it is some impossible hurdle to cross. If you follow a guide, it should take less than 30 minutes to fully level a craft. I think you just want a cheaper way to get ascended, because crafting is expensive.

It is, for players that dont grind the dungeon redundancy it is expensive(i dont like pve side of gw2), followed a guide to craft armor to 400 was about craft stuff i dont need or never will use, reached arround 412-415 had to stop due gold sink in stuff that i would not need.

Edit: and IMO i rather burn money on other game than get gems for ascended gear, but each one to is own.

i would say game needs some serious review and rework…. lol, its not a elementalist problem its a game design problem, over time classes lost their small roles and game is getting a power creep game overall.

high risk stats at the end gives a lower risk if not fighting another power creep class, something like that.

Vayne.8563:

Fay.2735:

I’m surprised that Eve is winning in every single category it’s in.

I’m not. I’m sure it’s become a community project for them. They love stuff like this.

^This Eve’s dev’s go forth and back with the updates, when something didnt worked as it should they work to fix that element and not cover with another bad decision, they had that in the past but worked out to fix becouse players were not happy.

Ross Biddle.2367:

aspirine.6852:

gw2 mesmer is a very sad comparison to it’s gw1 counterpart. Gw1 mesmer is a beast, very fun and unique profession.

Also, oranges are WAY better than apples when comparing fruit.

There are different mechanics, its is hard to compare since classes in gw2 are designed to 5vs5 (imo is a lie), or to blob vs blob, if they were balanced to 1vs1 or to each role they can represent it was possible to compare gw1 class with gw3.

Mickz.8356:

Carpboy.7145:

I’ve been using 20606 dp for awhile now in WvW. There is not a class or build too difficult to take down. Hell ive even won a 1v7v7. The sheer amount of utility you have is unbelievable. Being able to interrupt resses mid stomp with steal has win an in umerable amount of 1v2s/3s, and being able to interrupt an eles ether renewal through armor of earth has also won me multiple 1v1s. Its an amazing build, and for anyone curious i definitely suggest trying it. Never tried d/d before, you just can’t do anything compared to dp :/ dual wielding daggers looks so bad as tho so props to those who pull i off.

My gear setup is also slightly different from yours. I opt for less health and crit chance in favor of more ferocity and toughness.

http://gw2skills.net/editor/?fZAQNAoaFmgmQ4u2qZeH+bZtCA-TlCFABA8AAuSJISK/eU9HBOBARcIAqZ/hM0Bkm2gFOCAkCochRA-w

the only reason you cant compare anything to d/p is because of stealth access at literally any time, it doesn’t really take a lot of ‘l33t ski11z’ to play tbh

has if anything on this game requires skill? :]

Something like a evolution of GW1 with seamless map(if not would not bother also) but got demoralized at the moment the gw1 engine fork was all about districs, and overflows, i wanted to find what happened to tyria after all those years, see many alternative classes with many diferent builds working together, something more mmo’ish, and it was at teh beggining becouse players were still learning and trying diferent builds until they notice zerk blob stuff due mechanics.

Also new way of GvG’s, since there was no monk, but i was more into wvw castle siege and stuff (as a RO player having flag on main city was important :P )somehting that could honor your guild and work/dedication,

I definitely should not be posting here i was expecting a better game, game was a full disapointment….