Guild Wars 2

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Wyrden.4713:

tried both lockdown builds of u chaos archangel , both r insanely strong and i love em, but i like the first one more, on the second build of urs i got difficultys fighting multiple enemys , soz idk name of builds atm:p

Ha, wih me its the other way around :P.

I can only fight 1v1 wih mind crush, 30/20/20, but fail in 1vMore
And with Shatterlock 30/10/0/0/30 i can do… Anything, kinda, cuz its so much like shatter. I stil have a hard time without DE, though :P

Also, happy new year

Curunen.8729:

Almost sold on it.

I wish we could have some sort of alternate spec “bank” or something, to switch between builds easily, including gear.

Theyre thinking about perhaps planning to add it to the game… eventually.

But for now, I have 3 Mesmers, planning to make a 4th one.

1. My sylvari for tourneys, pve, wvw, running Shatter. Sometimes lockdown for duelling/messing around. (or phantasm in pve… But thats so easy, so I could care less :P).
2. A human for condition builds in pvp.
3. A lvl 80 asura that I never actually use in pvp or wvw… Not sure why i bothered leveling her up. It was fun though :P. I usually go phantasm on this one.

I tried making a norno a few times… But theyre just too big and bulky, and I dont like their voice :/. What makes it worse, is that you even feel tiny playing as a norn. The camera goes up to make it look like youre tiny D;

Oh, and nice thread, Chaos :P.

Dawdler.8521:

Since phase retreat now always phase you away from whatever you have targeted, I imagine it would feel kind of pointless to run around in an open field doing something that never works in combat.

A simple left mouse click in the air will leave you target-less.

And even then, most people complain about Mesmer not getting around fast enough, so using it in an open field could be beneficial :P.

I bound my about face to shift E, so to phase retreat forward i just:

1. hold shift all the time
2. press e
3. press 2
4. press e
5. done :P

Sometimes my second about face doesnt work… so i run a bit back.. does anyone else get that? I press the button, but it doesnt turn :/.

I just tried phase retreating at the same time while doing about face, but it jsut teleports me backwards :P. Maybe its because i didnt lagg, hmm…

Merry christmass :D

Illusionary leap doesnt work on terrain differences

• Ranger longbow auto attack also doesnt shoot through walls.
• Blink doesnt work without line of sight.
• Steal doesnt work when youre out of range.
• Guardian sword #2 doesnt teleport you to foes you cannot reach without jumping.
  You cant place a Meteor Storm without line of sight.
• Etc.
  After a while, only working on flat terrain doesnt really bother me, and its still kind of useull if it doesnt leap to the foe at first. It will still run, and you can delay the swap by like 6 seconds.

Intried nvidia shadowplay today… Its not compatible with my laptop :’(.

Apparrently theres a difference between laptop and desktop graphc cards, and even hough mine is better than the minimum needed, it doesnt work because its desktop :P. It also gives you a message wether your card is good enough or not… Unlike some other video capture programs which basically melt your computer if its incompatible.

I also am not really ready to dive into the world of shattering without deceptive evasion… But I’m willing to give it a try, eventually.

My worst (and only) complaint about Mind Crush is that it didn’t have enough burst damage… Maybe this build solved that :P. I hope so. And I hope I still have time to play in the holidays, with all the family stuff, and stuff.

I guess this post added absolutely nothing to the thread, except that you dont Have to be afraid of computer meltage when you try shadowplay :P

Thedenofsin.7340:

Mesmer: On-demand three-way action – and a spare set of hands to hold the handycam.

(If that doesn’t get you to try it out, nothing will)

Exactly my thoughts :P

What if you get kicked from afk detection by being disconnected or soemthing… But later you manage to get internet working again and get in teh match? Do you still get dishonor? What if you disconnect again, do you get two dishonor stacks?

Im now scared to play when its… raining or something :/.

A ranger without a pet. Nice.

Did you catch it?

Maybe someone they tagged died.

Kittens happen, right?

UnknownFreak.2805:

1. portal – no range indicator
2. veilbot – veil here veil there.
3. Few AoE skills.. Chaos storm or Mind stab..
4. if you aint gonna portal me, you are noob. (that’s not my?? choise…??)

I get the portal thing every time :/.

Random solo Qer: Mezuport?
Me: nope.
Random solo Qer: ?!????@?!)6:4€??’xy kitten
Rest of the team: OMG we lost kitten team everyone just go afk _we cant win with a useless mesmer gg kitten.
Me: O.o

Nowadays I just say nothing, except hi. Its better… Really :/.

Uhm…

1. I want an “easymode” build like stunlock war. Just one that isnt OP, but still balanced with a diffoculty vs effectiveness ratio. Whenever I want to lose some stress through pvp, I feel nearly forced to go on my warrior x.×. Shatterring just requires so much concentration :P
2. need more reliable aoe damage for wvw and pve. I get really annoyed when rlitists tell me to “roll a dps class or gtfo”. And the elitists always say things like that, thinking pur dps is 1k or something.

Chaos Archangel.5071:

So.. it turns out my video program reverted back to a 5-day trial. X.x Does anyone know a good free program I can used to record? Or would anyone bebwilling to colkaborate with me on making a lockdown tutorial video?

Sure, I’d love to colkaborate with you. But I wont be able to meet you in game, so it may not be a good idea :P.

If one of you needs help editting, I heard sending big files is easy, so I could help.

I also heard a certain rumor about Nvidia Shadowplay, they say that it records high quality, low file size and doesnt affect performance for free, which I’d like to believe, but have to test first.

With the upcoming chrisass holiday, and all my real life projects finished, I’ll have alot of time :D

Edit: I use MsI afterburner, but it drops my fps from 60 to 30. It kinda bothers me… I seem to make alot more mistakes in game :P.

Above are excellent answers, but I still want to add sonething for Mimic.

Mimic is… Its quite usefull in some situations, but very unreliable unless you pay alot of attention to it, and plan it out. Which is really difficult in pvp combat.

After absorbing a projectile, it lets you block all other attacks, for 4 seconds. Combined with reliatory shield, or runes of the guardian, you can stack alot of burn/retaliation.

But if you dont block a projectile, you stand there getting hit for 4 seconds, doing nothing.

Maybe it works in duels with staff clones, but so far my succes rate in 3v3 is about 5% :/.

Natsu Dragneel.1625:

Other then me forgetting about this,

Pyro is the winner with the “un-named” emblem, Congratz!

I shall now go in-game and update our emblem!

/cheer ;D

Sadly I will never see it. Unless I get upgrading rights and spend 10 gold on it or something xD

Why dont you just do the 4 we already had and be done with it?

After last patch, I still do 3 solo Qs and get my daily.

Edit: I spend about 45 mins per day to get the daily completed. 10 mins per match, and up to, but usually lower than 5 mins waiting per match.

Ahat do yu want to use the build for? Wvw, pvp, sungeons?

10/20/0/25/15 with full berserker will work well in all gamemodes, except zerging (unless you like dying the second you touch a circle).

Lol. Did you try halting strike?

How did you get the blue makeup/tattoo on a human :O? Youre a human, right?

It always bothers me that spatial surge has this extreme facial expression… But with things like confusing images you stand completely motionless.

Xavi.6591:

Trust me, it’s way more painful for some on these forums. But I see what you did there.

Yeah. “Some”.

Absconditus.6804:

Keep in mind that Veil has been updated to actually be a Combo Field: Light, and is no longer Ethereal like it was wrongfully(?) before. This means you have two fields now that you can use to build Retaliation with, using Sword+Focus and Staff. The build should still be doable.

Realistic comboing will only put retaliation on yourself. The big strength of he build was that, enemies that manage to aoe/cleave all your phantasms +defender at the same time, will take 5ish hits from retaliation from a single skill use.

It was a really unique and fun build, that was quite balanced (you can only kill people who are too silly to notice 9000 damage from retaliation. If they dont attack, they dont die), there was really no reason to them to nerf it into the ground.

I have actually come to believe that devs never read profession forums to get an idea of what builds exist, and the discussions here. They only come when someone gets reported and infracted :/.

TL;DR: having perma retaliation on yourself isnt enough damage. At best youll do about 20% of the damage this build used to do.

Bunda.2691:

Jorjeis.2169:

Bunda.2691:

In WvW, cc is probably the most important skill, and what staff is (mostly) missing. So while you should play however you like (especially in PvE, where many builds work fine), my advice for WvW is this: learn to love the main hand sword, followed by greatsword, pistol, torch, scepter and focus. Staff is unfortunately a bit niche in WvW.

Wrong. The vast majority of WvW condition/support builds run staff because it is a very good support weapon. The auto attack is reasonable, and it has an ethereal field which can be blasted for chaos armor, as well as a self chaos armor and a stun break (that also provides chaos armor if you use it in an ethereal field). Chaos armor is absolutely amazing.

As I said, in WvW staff is a reactive condition weapon. It provides a ton of utility, but only so long as other players spam attack you. Good players won’t do this, and staff provides zero ability to close distance or chase.

In terms of support, sure it’s fine on paper, but chaos armor looks a lot cooler than it is, and chaos storm is on a long cooldown. And in WvW, support mesmers are mostly there for glamors, pulls, and reflects; other classes are much better at healing, boon support, and condition clearing.

In WvW, you can use staff as a secondary weapon, but except for PU condition builds, it’s hard to build around it as a primary weapon.

Finally, the OP asked for a staff DPS build, and I was explaining that this paradigm doesn’t really exist in WvW. Staff just isn’t great for direct damage, but can be useful for tanky condition builds.

Just fyi: Mesmers have amazing boon support and healing. Its very much comparable to engi/guard/ele.

If you dont believe me, try this build: https://forum-en.gw2archive.eu/forum/professions/mesmer/Guide-The-Chaos-Maestro-Support-Builds/first (hint: signet of inspiration doesnt only copy your boons, but also boons you get from allies… To allies. Its amazing in groups, even if you dont generate boons yourself)

I actually believe our healling is the best, because its spammable without a cooldown. The downside is that we cant do anything else, of ourse. Not that that really matters, because we dont really have alot of aoe to contribute :/.

edit: and yea. Staff doesnt really work in pve. Pve is extreemely simple, and doesnt require as much defense or conditions that staff offers. It does work in pvp modes for shatter/phantasm/tank/lockdown/condition (and everything else I cant think of) builds, though :D

@Romain

They didnt change retaliation. It still does the same damage every time, and does more danage with higher power.

They changed our sources of retaliation… The inspiration 5 (or 15… Cant remember) ‘Vengefull Images’ used to give permanent retaliation to phantasms. It was the highest offense of this build, and thy changed it to only give them 5 seconds retaliation, which is useless.

“We want to increase build diversity in this patch”… Yea, right.

Also, here is a list of builds and guides: Find your Mesmer Builds & Guides!
And here is a comprehensive Mesmer guide which contains almost everything (everything except fashion advice), including ways to create your own build:Lyssa’s Grimoire – comprehensive Mesmer aguide

Happy Mesmering :P

Imo, diamond skin should:

• always give -50% condition duration for conditions that dont do damage. (Vulnerability, cripple etc)
• -50% damaging condition duration above 75% health. (Bleed torment poison burn confusion)

It would make it a bit less useless.

What is skull crack worked a bit like shield bash/kick?

You move a little bit, so it has a 200 range instead of 130. But keep the 0.5 cast time… That would make it a bit easier to use, right :o? It would still be very much telegraphed. Perhaps even more than now.

Qaelyn.7612:

Cyninja.2954:

Yes let’s complain about 1 person vs 5 n00bs. If any class outplays more than 1v3 (and even here there is a clear play skill disparity), that has nothing to do with the class but rather with the quality of opponent.

Sorry but I have to agree here. I don’t see anything in the mesmer toolkit that would allow for a 1v5 for more than a few seconds assuming opponents of equal skill.

Look again.

There are Mesmers whom won 1vs6, or something like that. They used a simple shatter build with hit and run tactics. Against poor opponents ofcourse, which cyninja also mentioned

Its also incredibly easy to escape a 1vs5, even if youre being focussed: decoy>blink>power cleanse>mass invis gives you a 100% chance to escape anything, unless you wait too long and die from damage. Yea, it doesnt rrally count as “fight for more than a few seconds”… But theres no real reason to do that :o. If you really want to survive, you could: Illusionqry leap>dodge>dodge>blurred frenzy>distortion>auto attack>signet of inspiration>signet of midnight>phase retreat>signet of illusions>phantasmal warlock>dodge>distortion>blurred frenzy>dodge>signet of ether>The pretige would result in like 15 seconds invulnerability, with a few small gaps.

Winning a 1vs2 is just not possible with equal skill… Unless its a noob warrior with a build from the forum, vs 2 noob mesmers with homemade builds :P. or under extreme circumstqnces, like fighting at skyhammer, or a 2nd jumping you just after you downed the first :o. I love skyhammer.

Xovian.8572:

Alissah.9281:

The thing that annoys me, is that completely wasnt true. At all. We actually avoided IC for the most part,

Speak for yourself.

The hit to “on death” builds was significant when they changed it from an adept to a grand master, in fact it basically broke it. You’re being a bit short sighted if you think it didn’t cripple quite a few builds though. At least those that relied on both clones and phantasms being up at all times.

How did you make on-death builds with 25 in illusions? That seems like a very bad choice to me. Or maybe you should just read my post again.

Nretep.2564:

Aleph Naught.9034:

I honestly cannot understand how people can think it’s better than Ether Feast. Even in ideal conditions (being able to keep 3 illusions up at all times) it heals for less than EF.

I honestly cannot understand how people can think Ether Feast is better than Healing Mantra. Even in ideal conditions (being able to keep 3 illusions up at all times) it heals pretty much the same as untraited HM.

@Topic
I tried it. can’t fit it into my mantra playstyle.
9360 HP / 12s (including 4 conditions cleaned and allies healed by 3760)
vs
6700 HP / 28s (including 2 conditions cleaned and allies healed by 900)

Charging the mantra removes conditions too, so its 6 conditions.

And how does signet of ether heal allies O.o?

Zeon.8239:

Someone should use their dragon token with a consumable token, orb, and a powder to make a dragon finisher and post it.

They removed the ability to make finishers with the permanent account bound patch :/.

Imo diamd skin should half conditions in duration, but above 75% health. Also put it in master instead of grandmaster, you just have to sacrifice too much for it to be viable.

They should add a rank requirement for entering solo Q/team Q.

I love helping new players, and do it all the time… Except in the middle of a match >__<.

I actually had 3 below rank 5 on my team, lost 36-500 :P. my 2nd match that day was even worse :o

Wat.

Still a better love story than twilight.

Well I like the buffs. But I’m kinda annoyed wih how the intro said "before the changes, most Mesmer builds needed to put 25 points in illusions, which limited build diversity.

The thing that annoys me, is that completely wasnt true. At all. We actually avoided IC for the most part, becuase it was such a huge investment. As far as I know, only shatter used IC.

Either the balance team just wanted to make it sound more awesomer than it is to casual players who don’t know an awfull lot, or they just have no idea how to balance Mesmer :/.

Hey, look what I found you :D

Seeing red messages like this scare me every time. In a good way, ofcourse.

Also, I think this guide is getting less comments/views now that it’s stickied :o. I actually have to do a 7 day ‘bump’ now.

I recommend: Lyssa’s Grimoire – the Mesmer handbook

It’s stickied, and as such pretty easy to skip by accident :P.

It should have everything there is to know about Mesmers. Everything.

Or if reading walls of text isn’t really your thing, you can whisper me in game, and I’ll give you slightly smaller walls of awesome text.

Try this: https://forum-en.gw2archive.eu/forum/professions/mesmer/Guide-Build-The-Zergmower

Its a full dire condition build that focusses on tagging as much as possible.

I personally havent tried it, but the concept seems sound and cappable of tagging.

I dont nescesarily want them to stream it, I just want them to male dredge much shorter >_<.

I mean, come on. It was already the most hated and tefious fractal, and they made it even worse.

The Lost Witch.7601:

Maybe it could be a good idea to push this thread into the General discussions for a day or two and get some input on what PvE-ers would want from PvP?

Since that does seem to be part of the goal?

Personally I would like some ascended gear (or materials) and some new PvP unique-skins to combine with my PvE sets.

This sounds like a good idea to me.

Theres no such thing as “too much feedback” (as long as its varied, ofcourse)

Did anyone participate in the EU side of things? I’d love to particapate, but as far as I know only NA things happened :/.

And this saturday is my birthday, so I probably cant come then anyway ;D

The cake bot is a lie.

The community in pvp is horrible, and is the reason why i took many many many breaks.

Every time I come back, its just the same story again with people raging… I have more on my block list tan friends list… almost trpple, actually.

They said skins we already own still have value, so I guess that also means if we own the same skin in both pve and pvp. Just a guess.

• Very dragon
• Such butt
• Much blue
• Many reward
• Wow.

Skyhammer is my favourite map :D

I really had no idea Mimic actuqlly blocked O.o. I thought people just meant block projectiles or something.

My suggestion from another thread, which is really outdated with this new information:

Alissah.9281:

[Manipulation] mimic -> Echo
Cooldown 30
Cast time: instant
Duration: 4 seconds (you (don’t have to channel it. It’s a buff + effect for 4 seconds)
Breaks stun
Mimic: “For 4 seconds, gain protection every second, and gain retaliation and stability on activation. When stun breaking or being hit by a control effect, absorb and store it for later use”
Protection: 1 second
Retaliation: 4 seconds
Stability: 4 seconds
(boons behave like normal boons, and thus are strippable and affected by boon duration)

Cast time: instant
Unblockable
Increases cooldown by 50%
Echo: “Echo your stored control effect at your target.” (it instantly reaches your target like power lock and power spike)

Something like this. Originally, I wanted it to pulse aegis instead of protection, but it would cause problems with the control-absorbing thing :P.

It would be usefull in offensive as well as defensive builds, while staying true to it’s original purpose and without being overpowered, I think :o

This suggestion was from when I didnt know it blocked… Sonits actually a nerf now >_>.

I still like a part of it though: mimic is a shield for 4 seconds, that is instantly activatable and doesnt have a cast time.

Me Games Ma.8426:

This actually allows us todo a phantasmspike :>

Imagine this:

1. Mirror Blade
2. iBerserker
3. Weapon Swap
4. iDuelist
5. Signet of Domination
6. Signet of the Ether
7. iDuelist
8. Magic Bullet
9. Blurred Frenzy
10. Mind Wrack

Now imagine if your enemy:

1. survives

Youd be stuck without any form of healing for 35 seconds :P

Romek.4201:

arenanet knew the classes are not rly hard to play so they made combat faster by shaving the numbers and called it fast-paced combat

in a game where everything you have to know to decide what you do are animations

seriously

now in this game people tend to call skill to have better reaction than others
- tactic and strategy are not important in this game – (sadly)

thats why this spammy classes are so successful with lower effort than others
sure – with good reaction you can pull with every class a stunt but at the end you can give a monkey enough bananas and he will be ranked with a warrior

i wrote it before – but guess they dont read important things^^

they should remove the spammy mechanics complete in this game and concentrate more on counterattacks to spells (NEVER classes)

all spells need to have a counter (more than one would be better)
example:
- Player 1 cast Heal
- Player 2 can Counter with poison, interupt, damage
he use Poison
-Player 1 can stop his heal, remove condition, ignore condition and get half the heal

to bring some brain in the combat – and aslong not everything in this game has counterattacks arenanet is not done with balancing

thx for your time

Try playing berserker shatter mesmer. You have to counter attack everything. You dont have enough passive defense, or active defense. If you spam all your evades/stealths/teleports, youre dead in 10 seconds vs a stun warrior.

Every skill you use on shatter Mesmer matters. Every single one of them. Make a mistake, youre dead.

How did I get here.

Must be the thread necros.

Its not one line of code, its a command that activates several lines of codes.

That said, I want to duel my friends without:

1. press go to heart of the mists, go through a loading screen
2. open gem store and buy 1800 gems
3. create custom arena with password
4. enter custom arena, another loading screen.
5. duel
6. when the dungeon group or something gets filled, go to heart of the miste, loading screen.
7. go back to pve, loading screen.

We probably spend more time in loading screens than actual duelling to kill time >_<