Guild Wars 2

On demand Protection. (Perma via Hammer).

Decent uptime on Regen (perma w/ Mace).

Stability

Light Field

Damage Negation (bubbles/walls/etc)

Awesome Area Denial & Control (lines/rings/bubble/chains)

Sustained Condition Removal or Area Virtue of Resolve ticks.

Great Meat Shield

Bout sums it up.

Ganellon.7032:

Amins.3710:

You really want me to post video’s?

I mean, it’s not like I post video’s or anything… <check sig>. You don’t want the embarrassment. I’m sure I can find one of the many clips of this happening.

So I came on, asked you to produce a video, and instead you make another forum post. You, sir, are a LIAR <glove slap>. You have offended my guild, my honor, my country, and a few of my cats. Video, or kitten off.
-fim

Good Sir,

Your cats are scruffy, your Country questionable, your honor needs improvement and your guild…. they smell of yaks urine.

Here is the Proof of the Failed attempts of any kind of ~honorable~ endeavours

Jax.5261:

Amins.3710:

Jax.5261:

Amins.3710:

^ You don’t need stability to stomp. You need to learn to time your VoC. =]

Against any co-ordinated players you need stability to stomp, unless you’re talking 1v1.

You don’t need stability to stomp.

As I said, you’ll get controlled against players who are co-ordinated unless you have stability up.

‘You’ might need stability.

Stability is not required to stomp.

Marquiz.7625:

I know this is not a hack, but come on, maybe I expected abit more integrity from some of you?

I think you need to up your Legendary Defenders daily ration or maybe… a raise?

This MMO is the second worst game ever to segregate and marginalize it’s WvW player base from the rest of the game…. and claiming it’s a “WvW / PvP” game is just asinine.

LOTR was ~horrible~ and takes the cake as 1st.

They really do not know what they’re doing to the player base.

Jax.5261:

Amins.3710:

^ You don’t need stability to stomp. You need to learn to time your VoC. =]

Against any co-ordinated players you need stability to stomp, unless you’re talking 1v1.

You don’t need stability to stomp.

^ You don’t need stability to stomp. You need to learn to time your VoC. =]

Ganellon.7032:

Amins.3710:

And you guys from KWBH… why even play? Waiting until you outnumber people 2 to 1, before you engage is just… /sad panda face

Video or it didn’t happen. KWBH is pretty much known for fighting to the last man, rallying, and then fighting even more. Your claim sounds like bullkitten to me.
That’s like me asking why, every time Ehmry Bay sees KWBH, they suddenly feel the need to build an arrow cart.
-fim

You really want me to post video’s?

I mean, it’s not like I post video’s or anything… <check sig>. You don’t want the embarrassment. I’m sure I can find one of the many clips of this happening.

And you guys from KWBH… why even play? Waiting until you outnumber people 2 to 1, before you engage is just… /sad panda face

I haven’t seen this much tower hugging in months…

I just don’t get how CD & SBI can sit in a tower for an hour just twiddling your thumbs…

or

Come out in front of the tower, only to run right back in when it’s an even fight…

I mean, is this all that you guys have to offer? I’m hoping it’s just your pugs….

The ~ONLY~ people I see actually out roaming around are the vT guys (kudos to you btw)..

Just horrible. Why even play the game.

Because Ranger healing is just SOOOOO Bad…..

Ranger’s have 2 of the best heals in the game: Troll Unguent & Healing Spring. Each have thier place in specific builds that excel.

We do not need changes to our healing.

We need better synergy, as pointed out in the patch thread, between weapons and traits.

Also, why give us traits that grant crits on longbow, when the crits on that weapon are ridiculously low? Very poorly thought out.

I want MI to work, really bad. I’ve always promoted that it ~could~ be an extremely potent tool.

But until there is some sort of consistency with it, the risk doesn’t outweigh the reward.

Yaki.9563:

Sampo.9678:

And i never said i only heal for a couple thousand.
mace every 3rd hit , mace 2 , shield 5 , staff 2 , staff 4 , virtue of resolve , dodge rolls
And then you still have your heal, utlities and elite.

All of those heal for less than a couple thousand except for shield 5, staff 4, and VoR active. Those “big” heals are still quite small relative to hp pools and damage output.

From the sound of it Yaki, you’ve never really tried a healing/bunker guardian.

It’s not difficult to get over 1900 HP. It’s not hard to sustain over 600+ HPS on a group, + some good burst healing from combo’s: Staff Orb + Dodge Roll + VoR can get a group of players up 7k, easy.

Staff orb + Dodge roll can do 4k.. and can be done every 8-10s.

Try it out sometime…. your friends will love you: healing

^ is just me messing around, not in optimal gear. I was trying a couple new things out.

^^ Disagree Completely.

For small group play, MI could be really good: IE 4-8 person roaming and not fighting zergs.

But once you start getting some numbers in there, the uncertainty of where you’ll end up…. more often then not, you’ll find yourself exactly where you don’t want to be and die.

It is my understanding that Healing is not needed in PvE: Damage Negation is what matters.

However, I don’t PvE, unless it revolves around getting stacks or killing guards!

Now in WvW – HP is incredible.

It’s easy to put out 780+ HPS w/ a guardian: Regen, VoR/Battle Presense, Symbols + Mango.

Your dodge rolls will be doing over 2k and your Empower will go for over 3.1k

Get yourself a hybrid ele and glassy thief and enjoy.

It’s not about ~just healing~. You’re doing alot more than that.

Have said that, you can build in a rotation of healing and do fine, but you ~NEED~ to put in dmg along w/ other things as well:

- Direct Healing: Dodge Rolls, Staff #2, Staff #4, Shield#5, VoR, VoC, Symbols & Mace
- Passive Healing: Regens (VoR, Battle Pressence, HTL, Dwayna Runes)
- Boon Support: Stability, Swiftness, Protection
- Area CC: Rings, Lines, Shield, Bubbles
- Damage Negation: Shield #5, Consecrations, Blocking attacks (LOS & Protectors Strike)
- Damage: Symbols, Staff #1 & Mace

I have some video’s of support builds in both small group play and zerging. Check them out so you’re not walking into this w/ a misconception of how “Healing” works in this game.

You are not a DD Healer.

juno.1840:

EM procs are capped at one every 5 seconds — it’s not that amazing and doesn’t improve much with symbols. You were probably proc’ing EM every 5s with or without symbols. I find 2H mastery much better than EM due to the 20% increase in skill usage (which is 20% more symbol action).

I think you’re thinking of Vigor.

Azure Prower.8701:

Fror.2163:

Azure Prower.8701:

Prayer to Dwayna sucks period.

Having the bigger heal lets you have the ability to feign being weak to your enemies and pop full health.

Would you care to elaborate? I came with numbers and you discard them like that? Well, you better have a good explanation. Why is any of the guardian skills better than Prayer to Dwayna according to you?

Because it brings nothing to the table. I have a human guardian and have never touched it after trying it out for the first time.

99% of the time. You’re not going to be using your heal every time it comes off cool down. Only when you need it.

You can block more damage then Prayer of D can heal.

You can cure more damage then Prayer of D can heal.

You don’t always need to use a heal.

Larger the symbol, the more people effected… the ore people effected the more dps and healing you recieve.

Pretty basic stuff.

Crawford.4135:

because the class has been OP since BETA? lol

^This^

Coming from a thief.

That made me laugh.

akamon.2769:

>:DDD
it’s more Amins going back to where he came from, heh.

pretty interesting build, doode! and i like how it performs.
though when you were chasing that runner, i was waiting for binding blades!!!! : ((( i am disappoint lol.

the shield of wrath + zealot’s defense take down really highlights the Guard’s potential to burst. fun times.

the celes trinkets really work in your favor here. : ))

and okay okay, one last thing. i ought to try Bane Signet into WvW. i use it in PvP and it’s so. much. fun. the passive is pretty darn strong. and the active comes out of nowhere, not much people can do to prevent it.

good stuff.

Yeah, I was disappointed too.

Also, after my Sword port I came out of combat and had a brief thought to change out SYG for Retreat… but hesitated tooo long..

After making the vid I kicked myself for not doing it, cuz clearly I had enough time. Bane signet is a 1200 range. hah

But kitten are warriors just WAY to fast. We only have 1 real burst gap closer as everything is on long cooldowns compared to the warrior.

Blasino.3128:

As always amazing vid and gameplay. Why does the build have two exotic trinkets?

Because I don’t pve /wrists

I’m just a couple daily’s from my last Celestial Accessory… then I have to figure out how to get a back piece w/o doing pve…

Join you?

Maybe it’s you who joined me?
./grin

7/24 New Vid: Defiance

Defiance Build

The core of this build is 20/5/5/25/5.

There are, imo, 10 floater points. I’ve also ran 20/10/5/25/10 and i like that as well when I have more people with me, because the vulnerability is great added grp spike dps.

You could also go 30 in honor for your shouts… but IMO JI + Bane Signet are my static utlities w/ 1 floater…

Dodging
Blinding
Porting
Blocking
~Lemongrass Poultry~ That’s your condition removal.

Those are your tools of survival.

You do have a small dodge heal as a bonus, but not to be relied upon.

The concept is much like a warrior in terms of bursting combo’s.

Hope you enjoy…

Oh, and for you theory crafters… by all means, if you want to take a stab at gear optimization, go for it…

All criticism is welcomed, as always!

If the mechanic is broken, get rid of it.

It’s that simple. No one here is going to miss the already broken mechanic.

Re-work the entire utility if you’re not going to make it target-able or cannot get it to function with some resemblance of consistency and dependability.

This has been going on since beta.

try:http://gw2skills.net/editor/?fUEQNApdRlYgSD3GyIEf4ESmiVKBxUURf01DI6haIA-jADBoNDRkCEkgAh+IQZRDZNNKiltht6KalXBR1ATpiIq2loIa1yAwsAA-e

Farzo.8410:

Amins.3710:

And some guildies and I tested it and it’s still HORRIBLE.

I had 1 guy w/ 50% health, at 600 range, and another guy at 90% health, at 300 range, and it consistently went to the closer of the two.

It could be a LOS issue, it could be a 1st check issue… who knows…

Make it TARGET-ABLE already.

Sheesh.

Guild Wars 2 should not have targetable heals.

Then make it a GTAOE

http://wiki.guildwars2.com/wiki/Healing

Plenty of “targetable” heals.

Rising Dusk.2408:

So I love the new changes that the Warrior saw today. Looks great.

One thing really bothers me, though. You know how signets are supposed to have really powerful active effects? This has been the trend that has been confirmed by developers from the get-go. Well, look at Healing Signet’s active ability:

• Heal 3,275 + (0.5 x Healing) HP on a 20 second cooldown.

Meanwhile Healing Surge at max adrenaline is:

• Heal 9,820 + (1.5 x Healing) HP on a 30 second cooldown.

Heck, let’s look at the no adrenaline heal on Healing Surge and ignore the major boost of full adrenaline:

• Heal 5,885 + (0.9 x Healing) HP on a 30 second cooldown.

Even that is significantly better than the Healing Signet active skill. Now I realize that the power of Healing Signet is in the passive, but it is senseless to have a Signet that no one would ever want to pop because the passive is leaps and bounds above whatever the active could do.

Psst… Shouts are your Direct Heals.

And some guildies and I tested it and it’s still HORRIBLE.

I had 1 guy w/ 50% health, at 600 range, and another guy at 90% health, at 300 range, and it consistently went to the closer of the two.

It could be a LOS issue, it could be a 1st check issue… who knows…

Make it TARGET-ABLE already.

Sheesh.

My lil guy…..

Roy, how about that fix to MI…. you know, the one we’ve been asking about since conception?

~make it targetable~

It’s a ~death Sentense~ as it stands. Who know’s where you’re going to end up or what side of the zerg you’ll be on… IE: oh look at that thief in the back lines that needs “the most” healing….

Azure.8670:

Guardians are so good thakittens the only class Forum where people dont complain about nerfs and weaknesses. seriously, check the other boards. Mesmers, Thieves, Rangers, Necros, Eles (recently though I dont know why tbh) Engis (which I think are OP but thats another story) all complain and cry. I dont even use my Guardian because I feel like hes just… great lol. I stick with Mesmer Thief and Ranger, but I think Guardian is hands down the best overall class

We don’t complain because we, as guardians, understand that the devs don’t listen….

And when they do, it takes them over 9 months to fix 1 simple issue: Orb Speed.

We don’t complain because complaining is uselessly fallen on deft ears.

/cough mobility
/cough chill/cripple
/cough useless zeal trait line
/cough valor&honor bound
/cough merciful intervention (wait, we have a utility called this?! are you sure?!?!)

Warriors do not have to spec for damage, it’s inherent in thier makeup.

Guardians do not have to spec for support, it’s inherent in thier makeup.

Take from that what you will.

Both have sustain.

Most warriors dont’ spec sustain.

Most guardians don’t spec dps.

Both can do either.

What does it matter? It just gets’ stained blood red anyhoot.

=]

http://gw2skills.net/editor/?fUAQNApeWlcgyCXFyJEf4ESmiVCBxeoRfUHdpIheIA-j0yAoNBRqBI9JQZxioxW3iW1Nsl3goqJiqVNYWfioaXCmQAfHDA-w

Not as much +healing, but much better in terms of well rounded and surviving burst in WvW

Not to mention, we have 2 passive 10s condition removal, one of which can be spec’d to remove 2, for a total of 3 condi’s every 10s….

Guardians and conditions should not be a problem.

Though, I do agree: Purging Flames is weak.

akamon.2769:

as much as i love your “support” vids, i have missed your DPS vids as well. ; ))

been absolutely LOVING the new scepter to balls. XDD
been playing that exact same build quite a bit too recently (kinda creepy, cause it’s almost down to a T save the ascended trinkets. :///) though only in PvE.. but easily one of the higest damage dealing build right now. so squishy though! XDD i’ll have to take it into WvW one of these days.

[added: Amins, do you ever find the need or actually activate your Signet? i don’t think i caught you using it in the video. just wondering of the trade off of having it active vs passive]

I do use it.. though the goal is to try and NOT to! lol

If I’m seeing more conditions, i’ll swap out to get the 2 condi removal <10s

Binding Blades + Ring of Warding…

&

BANISH

I’ve been using Celestial Amulet + Rings since they’ve come out and am currently saving for the Accessories… kitten anet for only allowing laurels via dailies in WvW and not Lord Killing/Defending. LAME (just another reason why WvW gets ‘back of the bus’ to the kittenty kitten pve’rs)…. anyhoot, i regress.

I think guardians are one of the best classes for all around stat distribution… it just feels ‘right’ and they make an incredible base for the class.

I change my armor around for the type of play-style I want: Zerk, Pvt, Clerics, etc.

Player Character.9467:

Amins.3710:

Don’t know what to tell you…

The Warriors I run w/ Shout Heal me for 2k, consistantly… They are more or less, Immune to Conditions and will never be CC’d unless it is Chained on them. They have some of the best Mobility in game and some of the best AoE Knockdowns in game… all on top of a decent passive regen via Signet.

Couple that w/ 4 Dwayna Runes + 2 Water, they can have a decent Regen as well.

Maybe it’s your build….

They’re only immune to conditions thru melandru runes/lemongrass/dogged march, and they’re only dropping 25% CC and have 1 stun breaker that they’re also using as a heal. Warriors only have 1 aoe knockdown, it’s also a straight projectile line not an aoe and requires an offhand mace.

You’re right, I should have said Knockdown, Knockback and Stuns.

Lemongrass + Traited Warhorn + Mobile Strikes, Cleansing Eire…. Hell, you don’t even need Traited Warhorn, so you can keep your Axe/Shield + GS or Hammer build.

W/ only 750 + healing, your signet heals for 230… a whole lot more than Virture of Resolve does.

Issue is w/ warriors wanting to heal like a guardian and do damage like a thief. Bunker guardians don’t hit for crap… same as a bunker warrior.

It’s not all “Doom and Gloom” in the world of warriors now a days… Had you brought this up a month or two ago, the conversation would have been different.

Don’t know what to tell you…

The Warriors I run w/ Shout Heal me for 2k, consistantly… They are more or less, Immune to Conditions and will never be CC’d unless it is Chained on them. They have some of the best Mobility in game and some of the best AoE Knockdowns in game… all on top of a decent passive regen via Signet.

Couple that w/ 4 Dwayna Runes + 2 Water, they can have a decent Regen as well.

Maybe it’s your build….

Alot of people have been asking for more DPS builds….

So….

HERE YA GO!

3) S/T + GS

I think this was the build I was running in it:http://gw2buildcraft.com/calculator/guardian/?3.1|b.1g.h2.f.1g.h17|1.1n.h2|1g.7e.1g.7e.1g.7e.1g.7e.1g.7e.1g.7e|211.0.211.0.311.0.1p.61.1p.61.1g.67|k29.u27b.a6.0.a1|69.7|w.13.1a.17.1i|e

I’m sure some of you better theory-crafters could squeak out more damage. =]

saiyr.3071:

Amins.3710:

Does it ever?

I’m confused.

Amins.3710:

I’d rather be good, complain and talk kitten, then be just bad.

Does that help? :P I know, I know, being a pedant on the forums. But it made the interpretation totally different in a funny way, you have to admit.

Some things are just better left undone.

saiyr.3071:

Evilzara.6378:

Ehmry and BP have this feud and refuse to actually focus you guys.

I guess Ehmry has found a new brother to annoy now that we’re too big for them. Good for them

Amins.3710:

I’d rather be good, complain and talk kitten, then be just bad.

This is a pretty hilarious, I don’t think it means what you think it means.

Does it ever?

I’m confused.

Evilzara.6378:

Amins.3710:

Evilzara.6378:

Uncle Shags.9017:

Brindled.2179:

good thing we’ll go back to tier 5 at the end of this week. the servers we’ve been battling have been great sports. so many bows each day of our confrontation. all we get from ebay is laughs when zergs roll over small groups or even singles. i’ve seen little of that behavior from cd. even our match-up posts were only trolled be ebayers acting up. you guys really do house a lot of egos and unsportmanlike players. i’m sure it will rub off with our players imitating you more and more.

So when 60BP take on 20 Ebay (see Amin’s video above) and spend minutes at a time spam laughing, that’s Ebay’s fault… Good one. Someone’s on a pretty high horse.

After the way Ehmry treated us in the 13-week matchup, you have no right to complain about things like this. Grow up.

He’s not complaining.

He’s pointing out how idiotic the other guys comment was.

I thought that was apparent.

Oh, I didn’t read who he was responding to. I just figured it’s a complaint because all Ehmry does is complain and talk kitten.

Also, CD, the only reason you’re winning is because Ehmry and BP have this feud and refuse to actually focus you guys. Not to mention your PvD crew.

(This is sure to get this thread going, boring threads suck)

I’ll take this moment to thank Archer for influencing my response, as I feel it is deemed necessary to keep the light of the tread in tact….

I’d rather be good, complain and talk kitten, then be just bad.

Evilzara.6378:

Uncle Shags.9017:

Brindled.2179:

good thing we’ll go back to tier 5 at the end of this week. the servers we’ve been battling have been great sports. so many bows each day of our confrontation. all we get from ebay is laughs when zergs roll over small groups or even singles. i’ve seen little of that behavior from cd. even our match-up posts were only trolled be ebayers acting up. you guys really do house a lot of egos and unsportmanlike players. i’m sure it will rub off with our players imitating you more and more.

So when 60BP take on 20 Ebay (see Amin’s video above) and spend minutes at a time spam laughing, that’s Ebay’s fault… Good one. Someone’s on a pretty high horse.

After the way Ehmry treated us in the 13-week matchup, you have no right to complain about things like this. Grow up.

He’s not complaining.

He’s pointing out how idiotic the other guys comment was.

I thought that was apparent.

Updated Builds on 1st Page.

1) SM 3-Way

2) Ruins & Briar

timidobserver.7925:

So, it seems like you are really taking a liking to healing power builds eh? I didn’t think it could be viable in a zerg but you’ve proven that wrong.

It’s not too bad. What I like about it is the passive group healing for 160+ and the Dodge Roll healing. Those 2 factors alone, w/ my build, make a world of difference over the long haul.