they have to implement capes first (And drop those ugly guild armors than nobody wants)….you’re already asking for the next step, btw trying to get my old silver cape in gw2 too would be awesome xD
balancing 5vs5 around 1vs1? this is the worst crap i’ve ever heard….how the kitten can you balance 2 bunkers 1vs1? or a glass cannon and a bunker guardian? a bunker guardian and a cond necro? Seriously wtf are you saying?
Just open a nerf thief QQ topic like everyone else…still better than this bs..
Bunker = High survivability, no dmg, lots of knockbacks and stability and able to resist vs 2 for at last 20 secs
Point Holder = Just one with pretty high survivability with some cond dmg usually and way more mobility than bunker guardian, but not made for knockbacks or survive vs multiple opponents for a decent time, it’s just a matter of holding it for a fast backup
Bunker Ele = As everyone know is a bunker with mobility and some dmg…but this is another story..
Well, in this mode where you get a free QP without really being good, I think gems would be too much of a reward. I mean you get ticket back, silver chest (now every player runs around with forge weapons…how boring) 1QP and 200 R-Points. What you want more then that?
Quote….just for winning one map with paids starting all day it’s more than enough imo
1 Side bunker (The usual op D\D Ele is the best or one of those annoying rangers)
1 DPS Point roamer (Shatter Portal mes or DPS ele) if you have not just take a fast roaming thief
1 Full DPS (Hb wars, burst thieves, grenade engis and stuff like that)
1 Cond Necro (The one who sits in mid at start spamming kitten on the point under your guardian’s feet) or just another DPS…
That would be more than enough at last for free..remember to target stuff for your burst mates and gg
Personal note: if you plan to make a stable team try not to count too much on Eles cause they are probably going to be nerfed in february skill patch…at last
A glass thief can’t down a bunker solo…even if he’s really good, if you play bunker and a burst thief can down you solo you’ve better to l2p your spec….the only class that can down a bunker guardian solo, if played good, is necro….but a glass thief just can’t, when i go bunker with guardian i can laugh at D/D thieves all day long….and noone playing bunker at just a decent level have problems with a glass thief, you can actually end killing him despite your low dmg while laughing with full hp and maybe writing stuff like “Have you finished? I have to smoke my cig..” in say chat..
Glass thieves are dangerous in 1vs1 only if you run a glass spec too, like every other glass…or in team fights where thief’s role is to down half hp focused targets
Never ever happens if you catch the right build with soldier runes and shouts remove a condition, as this sets are many top-guards playing. So mabye a ranger can solo you in terms of constant dmg.
A ranger can solo a bunker guardian maybe…but it usually takes too much time, btw i have to agree that for a glass thief it’s already hard to bring down a 70% hp guard…usually you have to go for dps targets, it’s also unuseful to target a bunker while there are dps up around
thx Anet dont give pvp any thing to play any time not in WvW or PVE.. we just want always start as blank chars….
as usual anet don’t give a kitten bout pvp……coming from gw1 it’s really sad to see how they focus on dam pve with events, new dungeons, gears and crap while we’re still waiting for a decent pvp…….they care much more bout casuals playing stupid wvsw zergfest with pve skills and gear and with no clue about what they’re doing or personal skills than those who go for real pvp, even going paids brings you nothing bout qps that actually have no use at all.
You are ruining guild wars name ppl, seriously….it’s a shame.
See THAT is ridiculous. I don’t care what you say to defend it I played D/D thief since beta and its always been ridiculous to the point of it becoming boring and redundant. Basilisk Venom > Assassins Signet > Cloak and Dagger > Steal before CnD animation ends > Backstab > HS if needed.
You have to be moderately fast with this combo. The amount of time taken to do what you just posted is pretty high considering any profession with a shield/invulnerability can see u a mile away buffing and simply deny the basilisk. Or a simple stun breaker followed by heal works just fine. I`m done defending my profession fiercely since it`s starting to have a negative impact on my forum privileges. So i`m relaying you politely that it can`t be done most of the time and if u can it won`t take the staggering amount of 15k hp in 0.3 sec or w/e that poster said.
it takes no time to do this combo since u can just macro it to 1 button wtf r utalking about
1- A dps burst can’t oneshot a bunker guardian unless he just sits there watching porn on the other window…
2- Macros are bannable because actuallly a macro can be considered a bot breaking the law 1 press = 1 action
yea and im sure there are no hackers or botters in gw2 no way !
So you’re asking for nerfs on a certain class because there are ppl playing it with bots? lolwhat? Oh that mesmer uses macros for shatter….nerf shatter!
See THAT is ridiculous. I don’t care what you say to defend it I played D/D thief since beta and its always been ridiculous to the point of it becoming boring and redundant. Basilisk Venom > Assassins Signet > Cloak and Dagger > Steal before CnD animation ends > Backstab > HS if needed.
You have to be moderately fast with this combo. The amount of time taken to do what you just posted is pretty high considering any profession with a shield/invulnerability can see u a mile away buffing and simply deny the basilisk. Or a simple stun breaker followed by heal works just fine. I`m done defending my profession fiercely since it`s starting to have a negative impact on my forum privileges. So i`m relaying you politely that it can`t be done most of the time and if u can it won`t take the staggering amount of 15k hp in 0.3 sec or w/e that poster said.
it takes no time to do this combo since u can just macro it to 1 button wtf r utalking about
1- A dps burst can’t oneshot a full hp bunker guardian unless he just sits there watching porn on the other window…
2- Macros are bannable because actuallly a macro can be considered a bot breaking the law 1 press = 1 action
A glass thief can’t down a bunker solo…even if he’s really good, if you play bunker and a burst thief can down you solo you’ve better to l2p your spec….the only class that can down a bunker guardian solo, if played good, is necro….but a glass thief just can’t, when i go bunker with guardian i can laugh at D/D thieves all day long….and noone playing bunker at just a decent level have problems with a glass thief, you can actually end killing him despite your low dmg while laughing with full hp and maybe writing stuff like “Have you finished? I have to smoke my cig..” in say chat..
Glass thieves are dangerous in 1vs1 only if you run a glass spec too, like every other glass…or in team fights where thief’s role is to down half hp focused targets
if ur at 1/2 hp u will die bunker or no bunker to a glass thief in 2 hs’s
Shield #5, aegis, virtue of resolve, shelter, dodges and so on are there for a reason…usually it takes just a single skill to negate a thief’s burst…and if you are half hp with everything on cd and without aegis you’ll die vs every dps…and btw if you as bunker got in this situation (And you need to be at last vs 2 for a pretty long time) your team did it wrong not sending a backup to you in time…
A glass thief can’t down a bunker solo…even if he’s really good, if you play bunker and a burst thief can down you solo you’ve better to l2p your spec….the only class that can down a bunker guardian solo, if played good, is necro….but a glass thief just can’t, when i go bunker with guardian i can laugh at D/D thieves all day long….and noone playing bunker at just a decent level have problems with a glass thief, you can actually end killing him despite your low dmg while laughing with full hp and maybe writing stuff like “Have you finished? I have to smoke my cig..” in say chat..
Glass thieves are dangerous in 1vs1 only if you run a glass spec too, like every other glass…or in team fights where thief’s role is to down half hp focused targets
Funny ya, but still, why is the thief special in this regard? Noone has explained that to me. Go ahead, tell me why only the thief should require you to dps him dead instead of a stomp.
LOL try with an ele with hp restoring after mist form or an underwater ranger and then come back……………………..
^ They did that on the 14th.
Underwater combat was changed to improve player interaction underwater and make it better as a whole. Not like it was news to anyone that Underwater combat was and is, underdeveloped.
So they made downed rangers unkillable with that dam pet healing bug, with everyone exploting it in hotjoin every single time as far as i can see xD To improve player interaction is not an answer…(Example) We made a change because Class A can overheal for 1000/sec while it should be 300…we want freakin’ numbers
lol just started to play a shatter masmer today…guess what it’s really…and i mean REALLY much more easy than playing a thief, i felt a bit surprised too but here it is….also went paids with a spec tried for about one day, no way to do that with a thief…maybe with a war or a guardian, but if you want to play thief at a good level (Not just stomping nabs in hot join, pretty much everyone from r20+ can do it with every class and spec) you need more skills than a guardian or a shatter mesmer (I can only say this bout shatter cuz i only tried it)
Stealth still does not equal invulnerability, and thieves cannot gain much more than 20k HP, and a laughable armor – meaning they also sacrifice pretty much all their damage.
Simply put: If stealth is what’s bothering you the most about thieves, find another game. Refusing to adapt is not the game’s fault. Refusing to think is not the game’s fault either.
From a decision making stand point, i dont know why you made the rank stomps a consumable token.
I know there’s lots of things on your plate, but in order to improve on the system I’d recommend something where it automatically tiger stomps when you’re tiger rank and there would be a toggle where you can turn it on and off in the options.
Then the only the holiday/event consumables would be available.
With this change everyone would know what rank bracket the person who’s stomping them is. We dont need rank 50+ running around with rabbit finishers imo. Also, we wouldn’t have to keep using these consumables if we were bothered enough to show our rank in hotjoins/wvw.
I like running around with gladiator title and rabbit finishers >_< it reassures people so much…expec when i sometimes go hot join xD
We’re waiting for an answer maybe…we’re not saying not to nerf or buff things…all we want is a crystal clear explanation attached to every single nerf or buff….are we asking too much? And before this topic goes down please share your opinions too while we’re waiting for a dev’s answer…because it seems that someone is just waiting for this post to be forgotten…imo..
You call this interesting? I call this…portal mesmer’s fest.
Nothing more, nothing less.
Leave the map as it is, it can be ok…but get rid of those ridiculous buffs in tpvp or you’re going to get 2 bunkers and 3 mesmers in every single team.
Less survivability on glass eles and less dmg on bunker eles, like every other glass\bunker spec. Dmg or survivability..a glass thief dies from every single burst from everyone or just standing for 2 secs on an aoe (Yes because actually going stealth doesn’t prevent from being anihilated by uber aoe dmg all around you if you’re running glass..it’s not like…let’s say…mist form) and a full bunker guardian can’t really kill kitten with that mace\hammer ‘n stuff if he’s facing someone just a little better than totally brain-dead.
I think just everyone wants to know the reasons behind nerfs and buffs…so it would be really appreciated, for old patches also…ppl don’t need to only know what have been nerfed or buffed, we need to know WHY, and i seriously think it’s a legit answer…we paid money for the game after all…so if something changes seems obvious to give us a reason over the “we looked after it and we nerfed it”
Right? If someone one day logs in and finds his build (S/D Dazelock in my case) totally destroyed by nerfs…and he spent time learning how to play it, or in the case of pve buying gear runes and so on just to make that build…well at last a CLEAR explanation is needed, why? Who decided it? On which basis? And so on..
A-net stated since beta that a survivablity/bunker build should not indefinetly outlast a full damage build... Which is what we have here.
Yes if you are dumb and don’t switch at the right time will die. And if your not good enough to live for 9 seconds you will die…
I don’t think it takes much skill or much brain power to realize when to switch and heal.
And yes bad eles will not switch and die, but if we’re balancing for people to make moves they are supposed to, then this is clearly going to outlast most builds, while doing pretty good damage, having great mobility, and nice team utility.
Sorry but something is a little wrong here. I do however think D/D will be fine post update. Their metric system may even say “ele’s are Ok. Once all weapon skills aren’t crapping out”. But as it is now bugs included, this build stands out among most.
Go on and tell me the reason behind these videos is because " lol they’re playing against baddies"
Again…and again…and again..WvsW is NOT spvp…WvsW uses pve skills, pve gears, pve levels, pve gold and so on, spvp it’s a totally different world it’s not just going full exotic crap and roflstomp random ppl while zerging like chickens…..so…go wvsw forum if you want to talk about it. Period
@ Macros: Macros are against the user agreement. You can be banned for using them, so use them at your own risk. I would also advise against using them, because in live tournaments, you won’t be able to use macros. So it makes little sense to learn “bad habbits” you’ll just have to retrain later.
I am sick of mesmers getting nerfed while all these classes get buffed and they clearly dont need it lol.
Can’t remember one sigle patch were thieves got buffed…please tell me wtf are you talking about. 20 might shatter uh? Talkin’ bs much?
From the Nov. 15 patch updates (Just started as far back as I could go.)
Shadow Trap:This skill no longer shadowsteps the thief when the trap is triggered. This skill now has two additional abilities: The first ability becomes available when Shadow Trap is cast and will destroy the current trap. The second ability, Shadow Pursuit, becomes available when an enemy triggers the trap. The thief may choose to activate this ability and shadowstep to the enemy that triggered the trap. If this ability is not activated after 10 seconds, the ability will fade and Shadow Trap will be available.
Sounds like a buff to me to have the ability to choose to go back or not. Also sounds kind of like a portal ability giving the thief the option to go back or not what’s even BETTER for the thief is the cooldown is MUCH MUCH MUCH shorter than mesmer and the trap lasts exponentially longer than our freaking portal.
Stab: Damage for this skill has been normalized so that it doesn’t deal less damage from behind the target.
Again sounds like a buff.
Tactical Strike:This skill’s damage has been increased by 10% in all formats. This skill’s daze duration has been reduced from 2 seconds to 1.5 seconds in PvP.
Okay so you got a half second nerf in daze duration. As far as I know though this is the ONLY SKILL in the game that dazes for longer than a second. So please tell me how you think thieves are so horribly off or never get buffed.
I can think of one maybe 2 examples where mesmers got ACTUAL buffs… The first of which was the shattered strength which was an unintended bug but when they “fixed” said bug we were worse off than before it’s existence. HIGHLY ANNOYING. Portal gotten nerfed repeatedly and now it is getting shared. I also hear that THIEVES think they should get the portal mechanic and their class is most deserving YOU ALREADY HAVE IT IN 3 different formats! Infiltrators strike. Shadow Step/Shadow Return/ Shadow Trap. Please tell me you are joking and don’t honestly believe that your class should get ANOTHER portal mechanic.
Shadow trap was used to defend far points..so no, that was a bad nerf…used it sometimes, now it’s completely unuseful.
Tactical strike buffed? LOLWHAT? Have you ever played a thief? Ts nerf completely ruined dazelock build…stop saying stupid things please
Nothing more to say…people knowing kitten bout thieves keep talkin’…as usual..
that’s why thief uses macro, fix bug, fix ridiculous combo, and there won’t be any advantage of using a macro over normal players.
in this video you can just see nothing wrong…who made the video wrote that the thief did 4 skill while invisible, well….steal + c&d makes you invisible, then backstab (That is the 1# skill while in stealth) and it becomes visible again…then he goes with hasted hs….
After backstab that thief immediately went visible…so what’s wrong with that? Stop posting bs…we’re talkin’ about thieves, mesmers, eles, wars and so on who use macros to land always perfect combos…not about stealth and stuff…..shatter mesmers using macros are way more op and deadly than bs thieves..in a macro shatter combo you can’t even see the clones because they shatter to fast to render at all…so?
As i said just ban macro’s users and everything is gonna be ok.
I had read the thread and i think you are talking about a ranged class hitting you from the windows, so is not only necros, shortbow thief, ranger,…
Flesh wurm hits you while the necro can do everything else everywhere else…it’s a bit different from someone shooting you with a bow or somethin from a window…it’s like a self teleport engi turret…on a necro..
Again…give honor points to winners only all at the end of the match, and to the ones who joined losing team for balancing.
Keep saying this from….well..3 months? Ranking up while losing it’s nonsense…at all, for an old gw1 player it’s just an abomination. Noone needs farming nubs in pvp…let’s make ppl actually need to win games to gain something, not just running around spamming hbs in ppl’s face without knowing wtf are they doing.
They havent banned anyone yet for macroing as far as i can see so theres ur anwser. They have however banned quite a few ppl for language (free speech and all that, supose to be a human right) and exploits in PvE which is another indicator of where their priorities lie…..
We all know…money…..but i’ll keep asking for it…they can already detect bots and ban them looking at skill’s time log, but again..with pve bots they’re losing money, with pvp macros they’re not so not a single kitten was given..
Then, there is two cases of macro:
- Something you download for the purpose of macroing
- Something you get with your mouse etc, why would you use something you paid for ?
Thats why they can’t just find/ban everyone who ‘macros’
It isn’t…as i said about one month before: on server side devs can clearly log the time between skills…if this time (In a matter of milliseconds) is always the same for a certain skill chain well….no dubt he’s using macros, and it’s not only a thief’s problem, pretty much everyone with a burst chain can set up a macro for it, from mesmers to eles..to wars…
Easy and effective. Now just start to ban those. From a program of from keyboards and mouses like G15 and stuff doesn’t matter…macros are bots sending keycommands on their own and noone should use them in this game…you bought it? Fine…use it with something else, people buy guns everyday…but it doesn’t mean they can go around shooting ppl just because they bought them.
Duels are plain stupid and meaningless in guild wars…still can’t get why people are doing it, if you want to duel go metin2, in a real match noone is going to duel 1vs1 for more than let’s say 5 secs or you’re just wasting your time..
Duels are important because they teach you the nuances of fighting specific classes.
For example, if you’re having trouble beating, say, Rangers in sPvP, the best way to improve as a player is to find someone that plays Ranger and duel them 50-100 times. Keep dueling until you’re winning at least half the time. Ask the person how to counter the things you’re having the most trouble with. Try out different builds to see what works and what doesn’t.
While it may be true that you don’t see a huge amount of 1v1s in actual games, the knowledge you get about how to counter specific classes from dueling makes you a much better player in team fights.
The best way to learn how to beat a certain class is playing it imo…playing a class is the best way to learn how to counter, because you can see when you are in troubles and why and use it to you advantage while playing vs it…well btw this is just my opinion, but it worked for me ^^
Disregard my previous posts,now that ive dedicated more time to look at the achievements tab, i found that the title selection is right above the search button… I feel so idiotic now, lol! im going with champ shadow, maybe ransacker in the future, but since apparently ppl care for titles, im prolly gonna put a rabbit title, ur equivalent.
Pardon my ignorance, but how do i put a title to be displayed? and more important, how do i remove that title (or any) from being displayed)? And how do i know im displaying the title?
You just choose the title you want from the list of unlocked ones into your char window → Achievements..or you can chose to put “No Title” on..
Well ya. Obviously gear is one thing. However, I have not seen every light armor or heavy armor gear since I am mainly a medium armor guy myself. You guys do have a point though and I am the same way. If I see someone with a fiery gladius and a rabbit finisher I know something is up.
I have never lowered my title though. People should fear my approach.
I have a fiery gladius on both thief and guardian and sometimes i use rabbit finishers u.u Think it’s time to put a plain pvp sword on xD
Used /rank outside AC just to look at ppl reaction…they were like wtf tiger? ..then i went back to mists and never come back to dungeons again…pretty weird there are ppl who don’t know what ranks are even if doing pve only….probably those 2 worlds are too much separated
Duels are plain stupid and meaningless in guild wars…still can’t get why people are doing it, if you want to duel go metin2, in a real match noone is going to duel 1vs1 for more than let’s say 5 secs or you’re just wasting your time..
i agree, they are useless, but just because ure useless doesnt mean u should have godmode.
The only thing i know that can actually reach a decent godmode level for some time is guardian…thieves are far away from being unkillable…
And everything that sits in stealth for really long times is pretty unuseful in tpvp because if you want to keep stealthing you can’t attack and you can’t contest points while in stealth…so yes maybe noone would catch you but you can’t do kitten and it would be a 4vs5, not so smart imo
People should care about titles. If I’m going into a 1 on 1 at a point and see a anything lower than an Avenger then I know it is going to be an easy fight. Avengers should put up a good fight and against Ransackers I should be weary (especially against mesmers). If its a Marauder I would still try but I better be on my game. If someone were actually an Ascendant I don’t think I would even try.
That’s why i usually put on some crap mercenary or gladiator instead of ransacker But it works only on people who can’t understand ppl rank form gears…with more exp players it doesn’t work xD
Ascendant is the title you get at or after rank 80. It is also like 20 points in HoM from GW1. That means at rank 1 people can be an “Ascendant”. That should probably be fixed.
Proceed to QQ about what should be fixed more.
If someone claims to have ascendant pvp title (Rofl it would take a lot of time for someone to reach ascendant…not a couple of months for sure) just ask him to show Mist Walker trollface Btw…you can actually know ppl rank from gear even with no titles on…so where’s the problem.
PS. Acendant is an horrible title for a top rank…something like Holy Mothafakka facerolling ogre would be really appreciated…
There are people that have been doing SPvP daily since the games launch and they’re not at max rank. This makes no sense considering you can be level 80 in PvE in 2-3 days (or less if power leveled through dungeons by guildies). Further, there is little to no reward for ranking up.
Ranks need to be sped up drastically. PvP rewards need to be purchasable with glory rather than the obtuse RNG crafting system currently in place. Neither of these two things were addressed in the letter posted by ANET and both need to be.
If those are slow i guess you never played gw1 xD You don’t even need to win to gain ranks here, also losers can rank up…so no, here is way more easy to rank up than gw1…much more easy and fast
People from gw1 would like to see honor points given at the end of the game to winners only…but sadly this is not gonna happen imo…
got a celestial dye last night…so not 0 gold for me, btw i put it on, because i don’t give a kitten bout gold…i play pvp only xD You can also trade gems from paids for gold too…but again i’d rather use them for tickets..
But it works only on people who can’t understand ppl rank form gears…with more exp players it doesn’t work xD