Necros are waaaayyyyy better team fighters than thieves ever will be. Necros can stay in big scale fights, thieves will never be able to nor they ask for it.
Once again no thief is asking to be able to 1v1 every single class in game but at least have fair chance vs some of them. Also, once again WHERE DO MESMERS FIT IN THIS WHOLE ARGUMENT OF YOURS because they can fill exactly same role, have actually more stealth than thieves, more CC, higher burst and better survival.
I have yet to see a single post in any thread that managed explain why it is ok for mesmers to be how they are but not for thieves.
Mesmers don’t “fit in my argument” – I was under the impression we were talking about thieves. Attacking my argument by drawing in mesmers is a straw man.
My point is exactly the opposite: You can’t compare classes like that (or at least imo you shouldn’t be able to).
I think you should be a bit more specific about what you want to be able to do … in one build. And what you want to be able to do “in general”.Actually we should be dragging mesmers into this. Mesmers and thieves used to share a role of decapping and 1v1. Now only mesmer is capable of 1v1, whereas thief doesn’t survive long enough to kill anyone 1v1 (except other thieves). Mesmer and thief are a natural comparison, one was buffed, the other was not.
And as others have said a thousand times… We only want to be able to win 1v1 at least sometimes, not just against other thieves. Or is thief supposed to only decap empty points? What is your justification for that?
There is a big difference between Mesmers and Thieves.
Thieves have way more mobility than Mesmers. Mesmers have only a 30 second cooldown teleport. Thieves have multiple teleports in the shortbow, and panic skills in the utility bar.
Teleports should not be directly proportional to combat capability.
I’m not going to argue about portals, invulns, or on demand stuns because that isnt what this is about.
In Conquest and Stronghold, mobility is a major key. What good is a mesmer if he can’t reach to the place where he is needed most in time?
And that is well and good. I’m glad mesmers can be mobile.
That shouldnt cripple his combat capability.
That is the line of reasoning people are using to say thieves being bad at 1v1 is okay though. Meanwhile mesmer is oneshotting people from stealth, something that was still risky for thieves when they could do it, given that they did not and still do not have the evades and invulns that mesmer boasts, and that is apparently okay. And in terms of mobility, not only can they teleport large distances, they can bring their friends.
I will say this again. I’m not asking for instagibs. I’m asking for enough sustain to let my skills pay off against these kinds of advantages.
I’m willing to put in the work, but right now we cannot deal with what the game now throws at us, because our prior line for dealing with those things was deemed too strong by the community, and the dev responsible for our balance listened.
Skill floor is fine, but there’s no point when getting the win is feasibly impossible vs any respective class.
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No cooldowns, limit on how many conds/hp you can heal per proc will suffice.
Necros are waaaayyyyy better team fighters than thieves ever will be. Necros can stay in big scale fights, thieves will never be able to nor they ask for it.
Once again no thief is asking to be able to 1v1 every single class in game but at least have fair chance vs some of them. Also, once again WHERE DO MESMERS FIT IN THIS WHOLE ARGUMENT OF YOURS because they can fill exactly same role, have actually more stealth than thieves, more CC, higher burst and better survival.
I have yet to see a single post in any thread that managed explain why it is ok for mesmers to be how they are but not for thieves.
Mesmers don’t “fit in my argument” – I was under the impression we were talking about thieves. Attacking my argument by drawing in mesmers is a straw man.
My point is exactly the opposite: You can’t compare classes like that (or at least imo you shouldn’t be able to).
I think you should be a bit more specific about what you want to be able to do … in one build. And what you want to be able to do “in general”.Actually we should be dragging mesmers into this. Mesmers and thieves used to share a role of decapping and 1v1. Now only mesmer is capable of 1v1, whereas thief doesn’t survive long enough to kill anyone 1v1 (except other thieves). Mesmer and thief are a natural comparison, one was buffed, the other was not.
And as others have said a thousand times… We only want to be able to win 1v1 at least sometimes, not just against other thieves. Or is thief supposed to only decap empty points? What is your justification for that?
There is a big difference between Mesmers and Thieves.
Thieves have way more mobility than Mesmers. Mesmers have only a 30 second cooldown teleport. Thieves have multiple teleports in the shortbow, and panic skills in the utility bar.
Teleports should not be directly proportional to combat capability.
I’m not going to argue about portals, invulns, or on demand stuns because that isnt what this is about.
Thief uses Staff in a primitive fighting style no different than picking up a random stick and whipping it around. The OP’s illustration looks like an artistic fighting style that was developed for hundreds, if not thousands, of years.
Since the staff fighting is not something that was introduced in GW1 where it would have been developed for 250 years come GW2…it looks stupid.
That is my in-game lore assessment why Staff fighting looks ridiculous, awkward, and stupid.
Well frankly allot of us don’t give a kitten about lore when it comes to altering our main profession for the worst.. Aside from that apparently you never played a thief/ daredevil. Because no.. They don’t fight primitively. The 5 skill on staff sends them flying pulling off a corkscrew front flip then smashing the staff down. You go and pick up a stick outside for me and send us all a video of you doing this “primitive” move then ok? Meanwhile I’m going to continue petitioning these animations until hopefully Anet notices and makes all of them look fitting and not just one skill.. It was a bad move on their part and there’s no getting around it with lore as a poor excuse to reuse 3 year old animations.
thwip
Wuhwuzat?!
So .. what does this tell me?
Unfortunately what I read into this, is that the vast majority of thieves posting here, has no intention of giving something up in order to be able to 1vs1. In that regard, I find the request to be selfish and not based on creating more diversity in the game, but only more diversity for themselves and their preferred class.When the evaluation of the past state was “decent”, I don’t see any effort in trying to see things “from the other side”. The same quality, that some thieves demand of other players/classes.
Therefore I can’t see any reason to contribute anymore. There is no point in arguing, when the respect isn’t mutual.
Bye.I’d be willing to give up our protection, regen, stability, and aegis to get so ability to stick around in combat. They could also strip all of our offensive traits out of our defensive lines. That seems like it would be a fair trade. I mean if I take a line like acro to get more dodges, the 10% damage and might on dodge should definitely be stripped out. Maybe they could lower our base health a tier too.
I have no idea why we can’t make this trade.
10/10 clever.
No offense, but this WAS posted in the PvP-forum.
Take a look at your own forum at page 1:
https://forum-en.gw2archive.eu/forum/professions/thief/On-the-thief-s-1v1-capability/first#post5469873
tl:dr : Some thieves don’t exactly see things your way.I’d also like to point out that, in the thread you link, most of the objective posts up to this point have generally agreed with what I’ve said.
So..
yeah.
“Objective posts” is your interpretation. All of them are subjective – I would even claim it is impossible to be anything else.
There are 2 saying “thieves are useless” and then there are 2 other saying something else.
There are indeed objective posts in that thread that consider the factual advantages of thief and its matchups, regarding line of sighting, environmental advantage and the like.
Call it subjective if you like, semantics isn’t what this is about.
Of the two I think you are referring to, the first advocates “dont fight” against half of the classes, and the second does not take into account that non burst damage is just as crippling to the thief’s current health pool when asking for a reason as to why he would burn defensive cooldowns when not being bursted.
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Thief uses Staff in a primitive fighting style no different than picking up a random stick and whipping it around. The OP’s illustration looks like an artistic fighting style that was developed for hundreds, if not thousands, of years.
Since the staff fighting is not something that was introduced in GW1 where it would have been developed for 250 years come GW2…it looks stupid.
That is my in-game lore assessment why Staff fighting looks ridiculous, awkward, and stupid.
I have the straightest face right now but your sarcasm is just so polished I could smile.
No offense, but this WAS posted in the PvP-forum.
Take a look at your own forum at page 1:
https://forum-en.gw2archive.eu/forum/professions/thief/On-the-thief-s-1v1-capability/first#post5469873
tl:dr : Some thieves don’t exactly see things your way.
I’d also like to point out that, in the thread you link, most of the objective posts up to this point have generally agreed with what I’ve said.
So..
yeah.
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No offense, but this WAS posted in the PvP-forum.
Take a look at your own forum at page 1:
https://forum-en.gw2archive.eu/forum/professions/thief/On-the-thief-s-1v1-capability/first#post5469873
tl:dr : Some thieves don’t exactly see things your way. There is no conspiracy, it is in your head. What is fine, and what isn’t fine is “by definition” not defined by one part alone a balance involves more than one.You seem to completely see things in a vacuum. Not even hardcore science like physics work that way.
If you insist, we can continue this on pm’s – it is frankly downright silly to continue this debate in the forum.
I have no quarrel with you, frankly; so I don’t see why we’d need to go to pms.
I know that a balance involves more than one part. I am not in a position to address any classes but thief (and warrior) because I do not play those classes frequently.
That does not, however, somehow restrict me from knowing when a class I -do- play is having issues in the current meta.
I’m requesting sustain to deal with the obvious damage boosts of the other classes, not the world and not free bags. How that is addressed may not be as simple as just sustain, but there is a problem with thieves not being able to live.
Further, I do not believe there is some kind of conspiracy, but exactly what I said -is- happening. There are people in this thread deliberately posting that thief is fine when it is not.
Annnd what does that topic have to do with this one. It was created less than a day ago, this one has been up for two -and- is in the pvp section.
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In that regard, I find the request to be selfish and not based on creating more diversity in the game, but only more diversity for themselves and their preferred class.
Game diversity is not my problem. There are several thousand players more qualified than myself to tell Anet what is wrong with the other classes. I’m looking after the ones I play specifically, and any specific mechanics that completely shut the class I choose to play down, whether they be class inherent or general new additions.
Example. If mesmer is having a gameplay problem, talk to a mesmer main. I don’t have the experience to talk about that. We seem to have dozens of players willing to chime in about thief without actually playing it though. If there’s oneshot problems or a class is too strong in the meta, there is often no effort on the part of players who main those classes to request a nerf on their own part (Mesmers get a gold star for breaking this mold.).
That being said, I don’t see why I need to bother with other classes unless they’re taking advantage of overwhelming dps or mechanics that are not working as intended in specific builds.
which brings me to:
When the evaluation of the past state was “decent”, I don’t see any effort in trying to see things “from the other side”.
Of course not. That being said, we also did not go into topics concerning classes who were genuinely underpowered and tell them they were fine. That’s whats being done here.
The same quality, that some thieves demand of other players/classes.
Therefore I can’t see any reason to contribute anymore. There is no point in arguing, when the respect isn’t mutual.
Bye.
I don’t demand other players do anything but lack the audacity to tell a class that is having issues that it’s fine when it isnt. That is the problem I’m having. There is a deliberate effort being made by non thief players to subjugate them.
Apart from that I couldn’t care less.
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You have no sustain? That’s a lot of garbage and you know it. Try to build differently then, run another amulet, different rune, whatever. But don’t cry about lack of sustain on a class that has been known for being able to either evade virtually everything or disengage at will if pressured.
I haven’t seen the thief subforum abuzz asking for balance while you were OP as kitten.
I don’t care about the past, arguing about that would accomplish nothing.
I’m talking about the current state of thief and that, compared to the respective dps increases of other classes, thief lacks the sustainability they need to compete.
Thief -HAD- evades. They have been nerfed.
A thief -should- have a disengage, but that should not cost them their ability to fight competitively in 1v1s. Tons of classes have disengages, and personally every class should have a disengage imo (inc. Necro), but that doesn’t come at the cost of their combat capability.
Speccing tanky does not remedy the problem, it only aggravates it. The dps drop removes pressure, and since thief is not a class that can play attrition without desisting from damage output entirely, the lack of inherent defense just makes 1v1ing in that state a slow death.
I maintain, I have no sustain, for the meta as it stands now. I don’t care about how the thief was seen initially. A period of them being decent does not mean they deserve a period of being near-unplayable.
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Play a different class.
Even good thieves down against most classes in the current meta.
What’s a taytays?
“taytays” are mammary glands
GROSS! I wish I never asked, I’m only 11.
13+ to be here legally.
B&
gf
Thief is still op.
Mesmer is just judged by lower standards than thief. Thieves expect to be op.
Thief is second only to ele in terms of opness
Can I be frank?
you’re spouting garbage.
EDIT: Never mind, he’s doing it on purpose.
Thieves are not unhappy about being a +1 class, they are unhappy about not being able to smack the living hell out of everyone but the tankiest builds. If they would look at the big picture objectively they would realize that they are not weak just that the playing field has been leveled out a bit.
Also garbage. Tired of people on the outside looking in trying to tell me how I feel.
I have no sustain.
Every other class got a dps boost.
Its painfully simple.
I dont care how long the kitten fight takes or whether or not I do a little or a lot of damage to a specific build. I need to be able to sustain long enough to make either leaving or winning an option.
Right now I can do neither.
EDIT: I want to tack on that I find the fact that every other dev is providing dps increases for the respective classes they oversee, but for the most part thieves are getting clunky ways to avoid that damage without any baseline sustain or baseline methods to deal with it.
The old feline grace should have been baseline. Fleet shadow should be baseline. Instead we got the former avenue crippled and the latter in a line that nobody wants to take because it’s borderline useless when considered practically.
I still need to look at DD. It’s so clunky atm though that I wont use it if it’s like that at release.
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Your job is to burst down squishies and important targets. You are an assassin that ganks players. You help your friends by ambushing your targets. You do not 1v1. You have no need to.
Didn’t Arenanet market “no role-locking” as a selling point of their game? A thief specced for 1v1ing should be able to 1v1. The current "No, even if you’re dps you dont get to skirmish, go sit on the point until the team gets back or “plus 1 because thats what you do” " is atrocious and I refuse to agree with the current consensus that this is fine.
How is D/P role-locking? You can 1v1 if you want. You can skirmish if you want. But +1 is the best role for the thief that assassinate targets. That is like calling Warriors role-locking because they aren’t as good as thief in +1.
I didnt say anything about d/p.
I said:
“No, even if you’re dps you dont get to skirmish, go sit on the point until the team gets back or “plus 1 because thats what you do”
Even thieves specced for skirmishing or 1v1s cannot do that because they have no sustain.
Their only sustain comes from them not doing anything and sitting in stealth (where players probably wouldnt hit you anyway unless aoe, but thats another argument entirely)
I dont know what you’re talking about, but my argument is simply: No, thieves cannot skirmish, No, thieves cannot 1v1, and players are finding issue with thieves that want to do these things.
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This, Mini Karka Hatchlings, and every Asura yell.
To summarize this you can only win unfair fights cause you’re a thief.
Id like to point this out to the community members that swore by their hat that thief was OP when they were suffering from l2p.
This is what you all wanted. The reason people think Thief is fine is because it has the stigma of a cheap class that should not be playable or decent on its own. It must always rely on backup to be usable.
And this is what Anet delivered.
Thieves excel at decapping undefended points with their unparalleled mobility and +1ing even fights to quickly turn the tide.
I laughed.
You should get a job in advertising. You’re good at making general mediocrity seem like a strength.
Are you new to PvP? Cuz what I described is pretty much what a thief did to get voted MVP for Abjured in their WTS victory. Thief’s mobility and burst is far from mediocrity.
No, I’m not.
I’m not arguing that mobility is bad.
I’m amused by the fact that +1ing and decapping is what the thief as a class is delegated to, when those facets are general procedure for any class that plays pvp.
And, of those general procedures, those two are the least combative.
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Thieves excel at decapping undefended points with their unparalleled mobility and +1ing even fights to quickly turn the tide.
I laughed.
You should get a job in advertising. You’re good at making general mediocrity seem like a strength.
Your job is to burst down squishies and important targets. You are an assassin that ganks players. You help your friends by ambushing your targets. You do not 1v1. You have no need to.
Didn’t Arenanet market “no role-locking” as a selling point of their game? A thief specced for 1v1ing should be able to 1v1. The current "No, even if you’re dps you dont get to skirmish, go sit on the point until the team gets back or “plus 1 because thats what you do” " is atrocious and I refuse to agree with the current consensus that this is fine.
Thieves are actually fine. It’s just a lot of thief players expect to be able to instantly down people without any risk to themselves. So when their fragile builds fail, they come here to complain about things being OP. It’s just more of the attitude of “My build is supposed to beat X” that is so prevalent here.
If I can speak for myself, I don’t expect to instagib anyone. The fact that I have an incredibly hard time putting out respectable dps due to Thief’s low HP pool, coupled with the fact that other classes can now instadown players (from stealth, mind you in some cases) doesnt sit right with me, because I’m putting in lots of effort with no forseeable reward.
Thieves cannot sustain long enough to get the job done in most cases. No blocks (DD not included), crippled evades (because evading thief was too op), and all damage mitigation shoehorned into stealth (which can be crippled too.)
I’d be fine with that difficulty if there was not, at the same time, a reliable means for the majority of the other classes to simply press one button and gain a period of stark invulnerability.
I’m not asking for classes on a platter. I enjoy Thief because its hard to play.
It should not, at the same time though, be almost impossible to win with in most 1v1 settings.
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Eh.
Whatever.
Devs wont get it right, because the community has a hangup on thief being viable.
I’m sick of “thief is too [insert op mechanic here]” coming from everyone, when most other classes have skills they can just press for on demand invulnerability.
Only reason I still play it is because other classes are boring comparatively.
IGN: Chia Labeouf
Playstyle: All Facets, mostly pvp.
Server: Sea of QQ
Experience: Started as Warrior, play thief more often now. Experimenting with rage builds, interested in teefguilds. Probably half-decent.
ya sure its annoying when u have newbs on your team but i dont kittening harrass them.
^ You can be competitive without trying make people feel like trash.
At the same time, the people that behave like this usually are too inconsequential to be remembered for longer than a few minutes, so-
Why is:
Condi bomb before 25%
Count to 3
Interrupt/Daze/Stun after 3
so hard that the rune must be nerfed as well?
pve is boring
You’re boring
Yeah, open world content does get a little repetitive.
We absolutely should ask the devs to change things in the world so people dont fall asleep. Kind of like a “living” world, so to speak.
Ah well. one can dream. At least we have the crisp freshness of diverse, balanced pvp.
I’m probably some kind of weird person for thinking for myself, but I came here after hearing that “Guild Wars 2” was the name of a game, checking out the gameplay on youtube, and liking it.
Its not as modern a approach as “doing something because someone says so”, but I feel it has a certain old-world smartness to it that is just lacking in the world today.
c:
I need to see more of this snarky corporate presence for content that promises to be difficult for the general population.
If Anet carefully chooses when to salt the game and lays off it when theres genuinely a problem, I could easily continue being entertained by this.
Finer points aside, any class setup that allows you to FullHP -> Death a class without a telegraph is overpowered, plain and simple.
I don’t know why there are paragraphs being written elsewhere defending the above specifically.
An untelegraphed (close-to)instakill is unpleasant to fight, unfair to the recipient and cannot be planned for. It’s just as passive as turret engie and, ironically, is an embellished version of what many mesmers blamed as being unpleasant and unfair to fight.
wins should be the reward of prediction, skillful play and strategy. A class that can simply erase HP bars without at least making its presence known long enough for its opponent to react needs fixing, period.
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+1 to this for a little flavor.
You either are matched with stacking burn guardians or eles with celestial stats. Its every match. Heres to another 3 years of unbalance.
playing when these classes are overpowered prepares you for a sea of stomps when the balance shifts to favor your class.
Wdf teef cant go that fast
hax reported
[cannot get on forums to say teef is op]
Oh my yes. This will be amazing.
This is exactly what the open world pve is for.
its really refreshing when you’re almost burned out looking for item X and then you find yourself in a really isolated corner of the world map on a mini vacation of sorts.
You steal step to your target and finish the vault. just like backstab-steal, im believing.
-Scythe Staff Snip-
Too bad its stupid expensive.
Final rest will probably jump miles too.
I’m moderately impressed, but I need to test it before I’m sure.
I fed up with this berserker stuff.
I HATE ZERKER META.
Sighhhhhh.
Two pages!
Let’s nip this in the bud! We’ll show them! Ban all zerkers! How dare they have standards.
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prestige
kek.
People that missed any content in this game should be given a chance to get it again.
Granted, it should not be handed out like candy, there should be some effort involved, but asking that a specific item simply be sealed away from new players in favor of others that just happened to be existing at the time of a festival is incredibly selfish.
Prestige should be given to those who did something significant, like funding the game in initial stages or winning a contest.
Those wings were from a game wide festival.
ALSO!
- prestigious: items that require a certain amount of skill to be obtained, doesn’t matter if they can still be obtained or not (green/yellow super skins, Mini Liadri, future Legendaries(?!) …)
I consider the green and yellow super skins more prestigious than the Shattered Dragon Wings, because it required skill to finish the SAB levels on Tribulation Mode, even if you knew the paths. The Shattered Dragon Wings were really easy to obtain (smash 50 piñatas, light 50 fireworks and so on…).
This right here.
Even if SAB comes back, the people with those skins put in some incredible effort and showed some true skill that other players will have to imitate if they want the item as well.
-That’s- what should be considered prestige.
Not shooting fireworks a year ago. Who cares about that.
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People who just bought them because they were new and shiny have lost interest.
I’m okay with this if they require effort to build even with these boxes.
Also maybe dont invalidate thoughtful potion effort, and all good with me, Its been a while.
Stop having fun, guys
When someone is being impressed with something, immediately harping on all the bad facets of it / its issues does nothing but make you look silly.
Player running a build that does a disproportionate amount of damage for the effort required to run it and winning:Ez Scrub Get Rekt
Player running a build that does a disproportionate amount of damage for the effort required to run it and losing:Cheese mode scrub get [pejorative redacted by mod] wow
And that’s why pvp is horrible. Nobody in their right mind gives half of a rat’s behind about anyone with the above mentality, but that mentality seems to be the overwhelming majority of players you run into.
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Dye Owners:My sense of prestige is being disturbed
Neat-o.
I hawked dyes at that price and even I think 3 years for some rare dyes is reasonable.
Ive moved some dyes around for some crazy prices, but I’m all for this. It’ll be good for the players to be able to catch a break in making sets that have been incomplete due to ridiculous dye pricing. And for those that still want instant gratification (or dont have enough 3 year chars to cover their tastes), the sellable dyes will be here.
You cant balance thief.
It’s either competent at something at which point it is op because dirty thief class, or not competent at anything, which is fine because only scrubs play thief.
True pros play immortal d/d eles and pretend that they’re working hard.
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Astounding Acrobatics
Evading an attack causes Confusion.
Leap of Faith (Thief)
Take no fall damage while stealthed.
Reflexive evasion
Automatically evade projectiles for four seconds upon gaining swiftness.
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Thieves cannot defend or contest points on their own without great difficulty, so if you have two on a team you have two people floating around looking to +1.
because that’s what thieves do [read: the only thing they can do.]
Buffing them so they can defend or contest a point on their own would be too scary and op.
I’m fine with removing cele.
D/D Ele is the problem though, probably just want to tone them down a bit instead of removing a stat option for everyone.
Do not be an extremist. I speed run. I am having fun. I am elite. I am proud. Do not be hypocrite. Respect is a two way street. Read LFG before joining. Find like-minded people, the game permits. Jealousy towards other play-styles is a no-go in my book. Do not label a community based on a vocal negative minority. Have fun. Enjoy the game.
Have a nice day.
This is a valid point too. there are some people that speedrun simply because the speedrun in itself is fun.
People beat Super Mario 64 in minutes for fun; if you ask them to slow down and play the game normally so they can have fun, they’d probably laugh at you.
I guess the same rule applies here. Any playstyle that falls within the boundaries of ToS is acceptable play.
Your making money from speed running dungeons, to get better gear, to super speed run dungeons…. for…. what?
I often hear, “yeah, but I just don’t wanna spend all night trying to clear this.”
What they are saying is “I’d rather be doing something else with my time.”
Like what? Like playing some other aspect of this game? If you have things going on in your life…. then log off mid run. Really. It’s ok
You got really close to answering your own question, but then for some reason shyed away from it.
People who speedrun dungeons have done that content multiple times and are probably sick of hearing the story and character interactions over and over, fighting the same fights over and over, etc.
The dungeon is still lucrative though, so theyll grind it for gold.
Which they’ll use to play the game elsewhere, and have fun. There’s wvw, guild trains, market trading and the like.
Why you didnt draw that conclusion I don’t know.
the point is this is one of many many bad things about pvp aerna in this game the other would be letting all walks of life into it . I would like to see a American only server for the simple fact im so tirred of clicking and nothing happens the servers in this game lag bad . They offer some of the best reward chest bribing people to play here I could and will continue to add bad things about pvp from my personal experience aion pvp was far better this this in so many ways Im relly really tying to enjoy the pvp game type but teams get stacked and eles are also another class that’s overpowed.. I don’t care about winning or losing I play for fun and this is just unbearable
If you’re playing with a poor ping (essentially internet speed) then it may not be a case of thieves being permanently invisible and more a side effect of the mega-server suffering from high load. Thieves have to have 4 seconds between stealth exit and their next disappearance.
(if they hit something)
The problem is they wait too long to make balance changes.
If class X is op, they would rather wait 6 months, study all of the metrics about class X’s activity, and then at the end of the six months make sweeping broad changes that totally upset the intricacies of the class.
If class Y is U/P, they would rather wait 6 months, study all of the metrics about class y’s activity, and then make sweeping buffs and changes that create new, exploitable intricacies that place the class well above fighting spec.
Unless the class is necromancer. Apparently, the balance team is incredibly prudent about making very, very, very small changes to the class, as if it were near perfect and just needed a little balancing to get that polished gleam.
But in a situation that pretty much amounts to them very carefully inspecting one scale, adding grains of sand to it and taking grains of sand away (which, mind you, accomplishes practically nothing), the balancing they do for the other classes in the form of dropping huge freaking boulders onto the current scales of the current pvp balance and leaving us to deal with the chaos for half a year is more comical than it is comforting.
It’s not comforting at all actually.
I like your game, Arenanet, and kitten ed if I dont appreciate every second you guys work on this. But every 6 months I’m either playing my class with a half ashamed wince or a begrudging futility. How much of that you can remedy I don’t know, but it contributes to a dreadful feeling that maybe the game will never actually be balanced.
Not perfectly balanced, thats impossible I know. But even reasonably balanced. Balanced to the point that complaints on the forum are either miniscule, raving, or dredged up from inexperience, instead of 90% of them all being valid.
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