Guild Wars 2

BurrTheKing.8571:

BlackTruth.6813:

BurrTheKing.8571:

One thing I would like to hear from both of you then, why would you run something like this over a DPS focused Teef, Ranger, or Mes? Those classes have DPS in addition to sustain in the form of avoiding being hit in the first place.

A pure DPS rifle does comparable damage but is way more vulnerable with your loadouts. I would rather deal a little less damage but have the ability to stay on point with the OPTION to fall back and snipe. GS is also good for cleaving on downed enemies for obvious reasons.

sPvP
Because Warrior can function as Tank or DPS even when played as a DPS.

Warrior is one of the very few DPS’ers who can handle “plus” and stand on a point. Rifle’s job on DPS Warrior is to make baiting dodges easier and make them more vulnerable to your team mates and your own Frenzy chop. And deal with stealth I suppose.

I would agree, but the lack of condi removal on a pure DPS rifle build like those above would simply crumble vs any condi build. At least with Zerk Stance, Mel runes, and Brawler’s Recovery you’ll be able to at least stave off the condis until you kill them first.

In fact, even my build might not have enough defense and something like this would be better.

http://www.twitch.tv/blacktruth009/c/6099867

Screw the lack of condi clear, just out-damage people and count cool downs and dodges better.

The mind set needs to be different specially when you’re playing DPS Warrior compared to shout bow.

http://www.twitch.tv/blacktruth009/c/6099867

How2rifle. Or play DPS Warrior the correct way.

Around 2:07:00 for DPS rampage Axe + Rifle potential vs. a top player (Five Gauge Abjured Engi) Lost the game but fun match and potential is definitely shown.

@PurpleMiku

Laugh while you still can, just pray that your viewers don’t stop watching you and migrate to my stream instead.

Like if you wanted full glass cannon with scholar runes and fire/air sigil to work at all, you would need to take risks and play Frenzy instead of signet of fury at least if you’re not gonna use zerk stance so you don’t get weakness spammed.

Sadly the OP wastes time complaining instead of taking the time to get better at Warrior while making actual good builds.

I’m telling you, Warrior is only “bad” and shoutbow is the only viable spec because you don’t know how to build DPS. This isn’t the first instance that this ever happened.

So, I stopped watching the video when I saw signet of fury.

But here’s the thing, the OP complains about DPS Warrior being bad when he’s too scared to do risky plays with Zerker Stance. Uses signet of rage over rampage too. No wonder you’re getting bad results, it’s because you’re playing bad builds.

I guess now you realistically can’t really complain about “Warrior sucking” when you blow at theory crafting builds which is probably the easiest thing that you can do on the game.

BurrTheKing.8571:

One thing I would like to hear from both of you then, why would you run something like this over a DPS focused Teef, Ranger, or Mes? Those classes have DPS in addition to sustain in the form of avoiding being hit in the first place.

A pure DPS rifle does comparable damage but is way more vulnerable with your loadouts. I would rather deal a little less damage but have the ability to stay on point with the OPTION to fall back and snipe. GS is also good for cleaving on downed enemies for obvious reasons.

sPvP
Because Warrior can function as Tank or DPS even when played as a DPS.

Warrior is one of the very few DPS’ers who can handle “plus” and stand on a point. Rifle’s job on DPS Warrior is to make baiting dodges easier and make them more vulnerable to your team mates and your own Frenzy chop. And deal with stealth I suppose.

Zietlogik.6208:

“We definitely believe people are going to love Stronghold,” says Corpening, “and we want to see what the reaction is to it. We definitely see this being the future of PvP for Guild Wars 2.”

Original Article: http://www.pcgamer.com/guild-wars-2-heart-of-thorns-stronghold/

Where have I seen something similar before…

https://www.guildwars2.com/en/news/introducing-the-new-skyhammer-pvp-map/

“I think players are really going to respond well to Skyhammer.”

“Pretty much as soon as we threw this in for testing, our internal playtesters said, ‘This has to go on Live.’”

I know I am being overly negative here, and it is too early to make a proper judgement.

But claiming that this will be the next big thing, while in the same article claiming you can be a non-PvP player is kinda strange. It works, but is kinda strange.

Is this some super-casual moba-esque “you don’t have to fight people if you don’t want to” type of hand-holding gamemode? why would it be in sPvP? why not have it as its own separate thing? maybe in a same light as Kegbrawl…

That’s what they said about Skyhammer. Hopefully they don’t make the same mistake again though, lower chance that they will do so compared to before.

The key is to chain CC someone with Axe + Mace (Or shield) and Rifle so that they get 100-0. The rewards that you get from learning how to chain properly on Axe Rifle builds is tremendous compared to the lower risk that you get on GS.

Fire/Air on Axe obviously but Fire/Air on Rifle isn’t bad either. I personally do Fire/Air on Axe and Intel/Energy on Rifle.

Power Ranger is as close as it will get for Ranger to take any form of skill. But they still have way too many evades and stun breaks to even be a risky class or spec to begin with.

nickcosta.8256:

What’s his rifle build about? I wanna try it too

choovanski.5462:

Crash.5362:

a guy just posted this on a post of mine
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=90L5Rw1YdwQ

Its pretty cool the hexastance stuff XD

that ‘guy’ was the god and legend known as Schwahrheit. i’m testing his rifle build on my warr, and gosh…

I’ll give it to you.
Axe+Mace Rifle
62006 or 62024

Pick traits that maximize damage, crack shot on arms, leg specialist if you plan on using 2 tactics and Warrior sprint for mobility

Defiant Stance, Fear me, Balance Stance, Berserker Stance, Frenzy, Rampage, signet of might are all good choices. Definitely use Zerk Stance + Defiant stance as a constant.

Warrior isn’t simple unless it’s shoutbow really.

Go play Guardian or Ranger, those are probably the easiest classes to start with.

Tru Reptile.6058:

Warriors heavily depended on stances in GW1, so maybe the F1 and F2 is an offensive and defensive stance mechanic for the specialization?

They still do, at least most builds that isn’t shout bow.

They need to buff physical utilities cool down wise

Brigg.6189:

^ true, sadly. You given up on zerk builds yet then?

Also to OP: What would a dagger do that axe doesn’t right now?

Not really, never will I suppose. But at the same time it’s just too aggravating to play and that easy builds are still effective for no effort.

I’d love to have triple swap XD

I wish I could stream some more but WTS qualifiers has got me fixated on practice.

When WTS is over I’ll try and stream some more.

P.S I got some highlights too if anyone wants to figure out more tech.

darkaheart.4265:

my main is a warrior, i have played warrior, knight, melee, heavy class in other games and i like facing my opponent face to face and not run or hide because it makes “me”(you can feel however you want) feel like a coward.

i think anet nerf us warrior because the gameplay is simple and therefore it shouldnt have high damage + health + armor so compare to other classes that take more skill to play is a bit unfair. just compare two noobs fighting each, one with warrior and the other with another class. “i think” most likely a warrior would win in this case. therefore not a lot of players master their profession as compare to one who can master a warrior much sooner. so i believe anet nerf us warriors so that we can learn or improve our skills to prove our self if we are worth the warrior.

Warrior is a simple-minded class by your standards but Guardian and Ranger isn’t? I suppose that’s why you can make the Frenzy utility work, right? You probably base your opinion on shoutbow, which isn’t really what defines Warrior’s skill cap and ceiling.

On topic though, you’re saying “easy” characters should never be op, okay. But look at what ANET previously did to spirit ranger in the past and Guardian before celestial amulet came into existence. Stupidly easy characters and stupidly effective at the same time.

Nowadays, ANET’s balancing team aren’t making bad decisions anymore ever since Jonathan Sharp stepped down. But it’s always been a trend in their balancing in the past, nerf the hell out of hard mode specs and buff the hell out of easy mode specs. Warrior is a victim of high skill cap tech getting nerfed such as these skull crack combos:

TL;DR Warrior got nerfed because of incompetent balance designers, not because it’s an “easy” class. Now that the guy who used to balance the game have stepped down, balancing isn’t so bad anymore.

P.S Before you say Warrior is easy, why don’t you try landing Skull Crack DPS combos against people with half a brain? Or try and make DPS Warrior in general without missing 70% of the time, without rifle that is LMAO.

For DPS? Yes. Rampage is way better than signet of rage. I’m never using Signet of Rage anymore to be honest.

HB is pointless right now, it’s good for maybe baiting out a dodge but other than that there’s really not much.

I know what you’re trying to say, stun and then burst.

The problem is, I don’t think ANET wants Warrior to have access to stun and burst at the same time. They nerfed Frenzy and nerfed Hambow pretty much. They want Warrior to just be a sustained fighter, but being a sustained fighter in design is boring.

Mace F1 got nerfed so it’s hard to land now, no one really used Skull Crack over Earthshaker anyways but it got nerfed regardless. Frenzy nerf kinda doesn’t allow Warrior to 100-0 people from stun.

Warrior probably won’t get more damage and 100-0 potential because of zerk stance though.

And even when Skull Crack and 100-0 wasn’t nerfed to the ground, it was kind of an L2P issue to dodge it anyways. There’s like so many stun breaks and ways to not get caught in the first place it’s not even funny.

I guess frenzy provides instant stomps like it always did. And it makes baiting dodges easier. I played it very impractically in the video but I would say you need a little bit of something to make Frenzy Warrior work again.

But mostly mechanics is what makes Frenzy work. Like you actually need to know how to bait cool downs and dodges at the same time.

How else are you going to get viewers by yourself? I know it can be annoying but most of the time when a streamer is just starting advertising in game is the most ideal way to get viewers.

This will clear up certain things. On a DPS spec, defiant stance is a lot more favorable specially in a team fight situation where there are plenty of cleave. If you skirmish a lot and is against a team with not many cleave and evade while anticipates, then probably Healing Surge on a DPS spec.

Why not use healing signet on a DPS spec? Because guess what? On a DPS spec you will probably get crit faster than healing signet can heal you so you may as well do two simple things, attack to survive AND get burst healing/mitigation which counts for a lot. The adrenaline from surge still helps even if it’s not healing for maximum on DPS specs which require you to attack to survive and defiant stance gives you time to whack people for no trade-off even if they don’t attack you with defiant stance up.

Tarcis does okay with healing signet on his GS build, it’s just that it isn’t good against people who know how to count dodges and apply poison.

At least you can gank engis easy if they use slick shoes. Slick shoes makes engi dueling favorable but Elixir S is still better for massive team fights.

The only thing that needs to be toned down is the fact that Ranger is just an easy profession no matter what build you play.

They’re not that strong ATM but you can’t buff something that’s just flat out easy mode without reworking it into something that’s a little bit harder.

Changed my reply, but seriously if people still think Warrior is braindead in PvP then that’s just pretty fail.

*Drinking too stronk

PvE I don’t know why people are worked up.

I want that omni-slash v5 around 2 minutes in from the trailer lololol

The nerfs are fine because other classes are getting toned down just as much.

You’re supposed to use shield so you don’t get condi spammed in the first place.

Seriously, if you’re not going to use shield aggressively so that you can close in the gap and actually attack then you may as well play shoutbow.

Not saying that you should play shoutbow because it’s easier but you need to completely understand how shield works before you say it’s bad.

Might focused? Sigh. People are too accustomed to “Shout-bow” being a balance indicator. Even that spec is still very useful because guess what? They never touched Soldier runes or nerfed the healing on it.

If you’re talking about GS, I don’t understand why you think this weapon is about stacking might to be effective. It’s actually about repositioning.

Most DPS builds aren’t about might, it’s about forcing people’s cool downs and dodges.

If you have to rely on might to be effective on Warrior, then you have to re-roll. There is no hope for you at this point if you’re blaming the might nerf because you can’t make Warrior work.

I’m just glad Warrior is back to where it was and I may be delusional when I say this but: You shouldn’t touch Warrior if you aren’t good enough with simple math and mechanics.

If anything it’s the class that relies the least on boons and is a lot stronger with it because Warrior actually has a lot of raw power. I’ll let you people figure out why.

Why doesn’t anyone favor Dagger main-hand as a possibility? :x

Also, correct me if I’m wrong but wasn’t there a Warrior looking class wielding a 2h spear on the HoT trailer?

They may as well give GS eviscerate damage and it’ll still be bad in all honesty. It needs CC to be effective but Skull Crack + GS just isn’t that great anymore.

The whole weapon set will definitely need a re-work. The arcing slice buff never really did much.

Warrior in an okay spot. So long as ANET doesn’t repeat the same mistake they did long ago, Warrior should be fine and will still have a place in PvP if not PvE.

http://i.imgur.com/Z4c5mBV.jpg vs. Abjured

Not yet. Not giving up on this class. In fact I feel more optimistic now that one of the previous Devs stepped down. So long as they don’t do stupid things to Warrior much like the old Frenzy nerf then this class will have a place.

At least when talking about PvP and the next upcoming patches. PvE Heart of Thorns, hopefully the A.I. is good in design and is not like Vindictus where it favors only certain classes due to hit-box issues and class balance.

Travis the Terrible.4739:

BlackTruth.6813:

I don’t get it. What is the point of phalanx over banner regen or shout healing? That trait actually needs to be changed.

Because regen banners and healing shouts are more or less only used to carry bad groups. PS effectively does the same thing but boosting the damage making the run faster.
Besides if you kill something in 10 seconds with PS and it takes 15 with banner regen or shout heal. Youre slowing the run down. In that case GTFO my party.

Forgot we were talking about PvE, the might nerf shouldn’t be that big of a deal cause PvE is already easy as and will still stay easy when might gets nerfed.

Who knows maybe when the PvE AI gets better then shouts and banner will be truly better.

Absinth.6917:

ArrDee.2573:

http://www.twitch.tv/livskis/c/5837533

Replace Skyhammer with Courtyard! The strategy is the same!

Wahoo! Bye frands!

Wah the fuk hoo. Bye frand.

So funny lmao.

It’ll be yourself to an extent, but sometimes you just simply can’t control how others act so it’s definitely a mix of everything.

I don’t get it. What is the point of phalanx over banner regen or shout healing? That trait actually needs to be changed.

Just try and take a break from ques and play with team mates so you won’t have to feel kittened off.

It’s kinda the same way as League though.. the more you play the more you will likely get a higher rank. Granted that League’s system is a little more accurate, it’s no different for how time-based ranking system is.