Guild Wars 2

Okay, but when you’re doing 5 signets on Warrior you are clearly making it a 6v4 for your own team mates and should be reported for intentional feeding.

No one wants to be told what to play, true. But if you’re doing stupid builds such kitten signet warrior, you know? Builds that are so bad that cripple your team, then it’s time to feel some sort of remorse, ya?

Once again, there’s no point in visiting the Warrior forums.

The only thing that people should check into are probably Warrior streamers such as myself, and Tarcis. Hell even ROM’s stream isn’t bad to watch because at least he doesn’t whine. Most of the people that you get in the forums do nothing but complain.

But the same people who complain have absolute no talent, just bad at theorycrafting, PvE’s more than PvP yet thinks they know better.

Just a waste of time. This forum is a hive mind of bad.

Backpack cause hype.

Scholar/Pack/Ogre

Trait line is decent, the utilities are bad. I wouldn’t use healing signet as a glass cannon either.

Simon.3794:

Guanglai Kangyi.4318:

Simon.3794:

Guanglai Kangyi.4318:

I go away for a few months and come back to this kitten:

1) Warrior is supposed to be average at everything. Deal with it.

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except the fact that warrior is not avergae at everything, but average at so little things he can do.

can he group stealth? skip? reflect projectils for team? give teamate protection?place waterfield? blind field?
nop, non of these he can do. i’m not even talking about things that he can do but insanely “average” at.

he’s “average” at a very little few things hes already limited to do, except banner.
not everything, just not everything..if you want to talk about everything, it’s definitely not warrior you are talking about.

kitten like this is the reason I quit the forums in the first place. Also the reason I came back, because arguing with stupidity is amusing.

Does your stealth/blind thief stack all the might/vuln? Does your reflect mesmer pile on banners that give huge stat buffs? Even engie can’t give fury. Warrior does all that kitten and still goes good DPS in the process, unlike your blindthief who’s puffing smoke instead of attacking like some college fratboy stoner every four seconds.

And if that still doesn’t float your boat, just delete your warrior and reroll, that’s what I did when they nerfed engies.

my stealth blind thief can also reflect projectils, safe rez any time, skip trash, smoke field, top DPS, strip protection and dancing dagger is amazing against fotm shaman
my engi can reflect projectils, group stealth for trash skip, stealth rez, smoke field, water field, fire field, strip protection.
sure mesmer might not be that good, but it can also reflect projectils, aoe stealth for rez and skip, and portal for skip, which are all fun and good.
what warrior does? dddddd drop the banna.

please, i have almost every class 80 even the ones i don’t have a few 80’d, i play them in PvP, so please, don’t try to act like i don’t know stuff and try to foul me over.

In sPvP:
Yet this guy has ZERO presence in competitive play. Not to mention bad theory crafting because he makes a Rifle build with Signet of Fury and then whines about Warrior being bad.

I actually do have competitive play presence though in sPvP, if you search through my post history.

On Topic:

Warrior is balanced and can be borderline strong, and I just have what it takes to prove it. At least for sPvP.

Please stop wasting time on the forums and watch my stream instead or Tarcis.

More and more misconceptions.

Mace is A LOT stronger in team fights because Mace baits cool downs, dodges, and punishes having no stun breaks hard. That means focusing down a target becomes easier if you’re good with it. Same with Hammer. Not to mention it scales HARD with boon stripping from team mates.

It is NOT simply a 1v1 weapon.

And in situations where you can’t stun, there is still immobilize.

You seriously called reckless dodge bad. I don’t know what to say.

It cleanses blinds and still hits hard as a DPS spec.

I do agree that Thick skin is bad and versatile power is bad however. Precise strikes isn’t looking so hot either.

^
Titan’s grip would be interesting lol.

Bambox.2035:

Best duelist: Yugi Muto
Duhhhh he’s the king of games

No, it’s Jaden Yuki.

My point kinda stands though, it honestly feels like people just want Warrior to be able to 2v1 (Kinda like what Burr is implying on how I probably should’ve been able to 2v1 that Medi-guard and engi) and is never satisfied with what Warrior can do atm.

I mean if being able to “chain CC frenzy” someone consistently isn’t impressive and not high skill cap, then I don’t know what is. I guess we should all just “nit-pick” that one instance and prove our points to be honest and forget how everytime I was there, there was a kill because high skill things were happening those instances.

Watch Warrior become broken again because people refuse to improve.

BurrTheKing.8571:

BlackTruth.6813:

BurrTheKing.8571:

BlackTruth.6813:

BurrTheKing.8571:

I’m hoping that w/e out new specialization is it increases the skill cap.

It already is, the lack of mechanics and creativity is the problem.

I blame casual-ness, sheep mentality, and just lack of good work tbh. Oh and hambow and shoutbow.

Show me a Warrior build that is viable, and doesn’t use Longbow and I might believe you. The closest I have gotten is the Skullcracker build in my sig. While pretty good, it can also fail terribly.

IMO, and build that uses LB is going to be too easy for my taste.

K. No LongBow as promised. Both games as DPS vs. a top NA team.

http://i.imgur.com/Z4c5mBV.jpg

http://play.eslgaming.com/guildwars2/global/gw2/major/go4guildwars2-northamerica/cup-13/mmp/show/30990575/76548044/

Top your Skull Crack vs. my frenzy against abjured btw. I guarantee, you won’t be as effective as I did. This is ABJURED. You have to give me credit to even make this work against the top NA team.

Also, doom hammer. http://www.twitch.tv/blacktruth009/c/6152446

Believe me, Frenzy still works in competitive play. The problem is the lack of mechanics and creativity.

I’m not trying to be rude, but that match wasn’t super impressive because your foes hardly focused you at all. The one time the Mediguard does you crumble like paper. Your damage is comprable to something like Shatter Mes, but that Mes can also bring Portal which if used correctly is amazing. Also, Rampage is pretty great, and I use it on Skullcraker. In fact, Frenzy wouldn’t be awful on Skullcracker either because people tend to hesitate for a second before stun breaking. If they don’t, I get off a full 100b and something like rush or WW attack.

The one time the medi guard gets me, that was a 2v1. The fight was outnumbered. If I had a rotation by that time and it was a 2v2, I would’ve won because the engi was dead and then I got plussed. Analyze better.

I don’t believe I see you in sPvP at all so you really should take the time to analyze what happens and why it’s working.

Also I edited more screenshots vs. abjured.

BurrTheKing.8571:

BlackTruth.6813:

BurrTheKing.8571:

I’m hoping that w/e out new specialization is it increases the skill cap.

It already is, the lack of mechanics and creativity is the problem.

I blame casual-ness, sheep mentality, and just lack of good work tbh. Oh and hambow and shoutbow.

Show me a Warrior build that is viable, and doesn’t use Longbow and I might believe you. The closest I have gotten is the Skullcracker build in my sig. While pretty good, it can also fail terribly.

IMO, and build that uses LB is going to be too easy for my taste.

K. No LongBow as promised. Both games as DPS vs. a top NA team.

http://i.imgur.com/Z4c5mBV.jpg

http://play.eslgaming.com/guildwars2/global/gw2/major/go4guildwars2-northamerica/cup-13/mmp/show/30990575/76548044/

http://i.imgur.com/Eei7K4I.jpg (Not bragging, just showing I’m using Frenzy vs. abjured to make the other screenshots credible)

Top your Skull Crack vs. my frenzy against abjured btw. I guarantee, you won’t be as effective as I did. This is ABJURED. You have to give me credit to even make this work against the top NA team.

Also, doom hammer. http://www.twitch.tv/blacktruth009/c/6152446

Believe me, Frenzy still works in competitive play. The problem is the lack of mechanics and creativity.

P.S Inb4 not credible because you didn’t win vs. Top team NA.

BurrTheKing.8571:

I’m hoping that w/e out new specialization is it increases the skill cap.

It already is at least Frenzy builds or Mace + Hammer, the lack of mechanics and creativity is the problem.

I blame casual-ness, sheep mentality, and just lack of good work tbh. Oh and hambow and shoutbow.

Though I do wish for spice when HoT does come out, I really don’t mind either.

PvE-wise

I don’t understand why people are so worked up over this. PvE takes no skill and anyone can PvE. Why even bother when PvE end game is Fashion Wars 2? There’s no “challenging raids” PvE is just a grind for skins atm.

PvP-wise

It’s a matter of game knowledge and mechanics, people refuse to understand that “team support” doesn’t only have to be boons, it’s about kill set up and kill potential too. The thing is Warrior requires mechanics (excluding shoutbow) now that the Hambow era is over. If people want easy mode go play other classes like Guard/Ranger, if people complain about how bad it is in PvP “without going shoutbow” then stop complaining and get better really.

2 years ago, “triple-swap” would’ve been fair game.

Now, you can’t just do it or Warrior will be stupidly broken.

DarkSyze.8627:

Ok simple;

Guild Wars Warrior: Risk and Sacrifice vs Guild Wars 2 Warrior: Survivalbility

Guild Wars Warrior take risk in battle and is not afraid of their survivalbilty to even sacrifice their lives to protect and save others… while Guild Wars 2 Warrior will not take risk or even will sacrifice themselves for others because as long they have Suvivalbiltiy on their side waiting, they can easily and quickly disengage and escape.

I suggest Guild Wars 2 Warrior to be more of a risk taker profession and a self sacrificing profession instead of a survival only profession. I also suggest Warrior survivalbiltiy: mobility and versatility be decrease by 50% to encourage them to engage more instead of disengage.

do you understand now?

There are builds for that. I know what you’re trying to say but making this happen depends on the player controlling the Warrior.

http://www.twitch.tv/blacktruth009/c/6152446

It’s close to what you’re saying. There is risk involved except the mind set isn’t “to protect” but instead it is kill or be killed “all-in” in spvp.

If you are new, play Guardian. If you’re a good player, play Warrior.

If you make skull crack a gap closer then you can’t stow it and play poker.

There is no reason to fix something that is truly high skill cap and not cancerous at the same time. I can see why a range increase on pommel bash would work though, that kinda not be a big buff and it’s something you rarely stow anyways.

@Zirken

Generally the counter argument is that there’s too many blind spams, dodges, and certain classes can have multiple stun breaks. But there’s ways around that now such as forcing cooldowns/dodge counting/stow weapon/zerk stance. It’s better to keep Warrior as is right now because this is the most balanced Warrior has been.

P.S Oh and if people play Guardian just play shoutbow and guard does nothing. Use easy counters vs another easy class.

This guy is a god among mortals.

Now if only stow weapon would get nerfed to the ground..

Energy is still stupidly strong, btw.

Build’s that are “not for everyone” are frenzy builds. I’m talking about chain CC frenzy.

http://www.twitch.tv/blacktruth009/c/6152446

I don’t think healing signet stance builds are “unforgiving” either specially when you have a GS.

Pommel Bash, interesting. Skull Crack? I think I like it the way it is right now cause of stow weapon.

There’s still immob, fear me and you’ll get the full HB off. Thing is though you’re burning two skills for a full HB.

Scoobaniec.9561:

Why do you think you get a taunt? Even if you get one its will be high telegraphed on a long cd. And its not like you cant use stunbreak either.

And like Tom said, new cookies are for revenant+specializations olny

If Warrior gets a taunt and people stun break that, now they’re vulnerable to other chain CC combos Warrior have.

Must be so hard to count stun breaks I guess. But who knows? Maybe next patch will give all classes 10 million stun breaks.

nicknamenick.2437:

PLs dont use “rendering strikes”….

This trait only gives you a 2-3% dmg boost if your lucky.

Always use “furious reaction” (rifle users excluded)

Furious reaction makes it so you don’t have to use pack runes. But pack runes and furious reaction makes it so that you have enough fury uptime even when you have rampage as an elite.

mPascoal.4258:

Thing is playing Zerker Warrior is kinda meh with GS

Yep. That isn’t a lie, the reason being is that GS by itself as a weapon set doesn’t have CC. It doesn’t really do more damage than Axe/Mace either.

http://www.twitch.tv/blacktruth009/c/6152446 (Ranked match against decent players)

This playstyle is probably what you’re looking for, but you’re going to have to get out of your comfort zone to get good results.

Rangelost.4857:

Here’s a simple solution for all matches:

If a player logs out after the match started, then logs in with the same characters, do not reset skill cooldowns.

If a player logs out after the match started, then logs in with a different character, kick them out of the match and apply dishonor.

That doesn’t sound bad actually.

Oh god.. they better fix this..

The transition from Guard to Warrior is pretty much about learning good habits. Need to land telegraphed skills because Warrior doesn’t have much instant cast other than fear me.

Xaylin.1860:

Personally, I’m more interested in Taunt + Distracting Strikes.

Ohhhhhh kitten .

The question is though, are Warriors 100% sure to get a taunt? Because that it would not make sense if not.

Really wish they would make GS higher risk higher reward tbh. Other than that, the mind set and build is plausible at best.

Taunt > Fear Me is better anyways

Like for real people, if you’re just that bad at landing CC on Warrior, then you’re bad no matter what build you play on the class and should just re-roll.

I would say learning how to land CC chains and landing CC in the first place is what defines a good Warrior. Pretty much support through CC is what Warriors have over other classes without having the need for peels like Necromancer.

http://www.twitch.tv/blacktruth009/c/6152446

TL;DR Warrior a class for mechanically intensive players.

Also, one more thing, I guess a DPS Warrior who chain CC’s as they DPS doesn’t provide any “support” for the team.

That aside, you’re better off changing your conclusion to:

“Don’t touch the Warrior class if you have no idea how Warrior can support your team through aggressive crowd control and not only through boons and shouts.”

sPvP-wise
Tank Warrior is probably the best point holder in the game atm and still be useful cause they can still build chain CC mace + hammer while doing so.

DPS Warrior is definitely one of the highest skill cap DPS in the game other than Thief and arguably the best cleave.

People really should just watch my stream instead of wasting time on the forums.

People should just stop caring about solo que rank and see it as a practice mode type of game anyways.

At the same time though? Practicing is annoying when you have people who double cap points with you and have no clue what their build is supposed to do.

The OP is kinda right when he says you shouldn’t be allowed to play ranked until you have played x number of games. But at the same time? Rank never matters, it’s about improving mechanics. Just that trying to improve your mechanics is annoying when you have clueless people in your team frankly speaking.

Those builds that I’ve shown aren’t simply “fun” builds. Those builds have always been mechanically demanding builds.

But I’d rather not have them become easy mode. They should stay hard and maybe they should become more rewarding to pull off.

http://www.twitch.tv/blacktruth009/c/6099867

2:07:30 vs. a top player

Rifle has its uses for sure. It actually has potential right now. Of course you shouldn’t have to depend on rifle by itself.

Incase y’all missed it.

http://www.twitch.tv/blacktruth009/c/6138478

Tune in for more.

At least this guys trying to improve and having fun instead of complaining.

Props.

My accomplishments:

-possibly introducing a new meta spec

http://i.imgur.com/Z4c5mBV.jpg Good game vs. abjured best team NA as DPS Warrior

Being able to pull these combos off as I will demonstrate on stream vs. actual players.

People watch my stream instead of wasting time on the Warrior forums.

Most of the people you see on the forums do nothing but the following:

1.) Make bad builds and then complain about Warrior being “bad”
2.) PvE’s all day and think they know what is balanced and what isn’t in PvP
3.) Do nothing but complain instead of improving at the game

It simply isn’t productive and a waste of time. I am simply sick of people complaining and doing absolutely nothing when the balancing right now is great compared to two years ago where complaining was actually a legit thing to do. Considering no one else is gonna try and make a difference, I may as well do so myself and advertise my stream.

Right now, Warrior is balanced. There are a few key facts that support this:

1.) Their skills are VERY rewarding to land. When you land an Earthshaker, Skull Crack, fear me or pin down, it is almost guaranteed that people will burn a defensive cool down causing them to be more and more vulnerable to team mates and yourself. To make this balanced, they do not have reliable instant cast skills other than Fear Me. This is without considering how decent Warrior DPS is for the combos that they can do for when they land their skills.
2.) Warriors bait dodges hard. Why? Look at #1.
3.) Warriors gets their dodges baited just as hard as they bait other people’s dodges hard. Why? They don’t really have evades incorporated into their skills, they can’t actually attack while they evade unless they use Whirlwind Slash.
4.) Because it’s also easy to bait a Warriors endurance dodge, in turn their defensive cool downs are very easy to bait out as well. When a Warrior is stunlocked, they cannot cast defensive skills like Guardian blinds or Mesmer Distortion. But this is perfectly fine because it’s highly possible to bait other classes cool downs as you use yours as you attack.

Defining a good Warrior is based on how they land their attacks and how aggressively they can use their even their defensive cool downs. If they cannot land their skills, and in turn complain, then re-roll is the option here.

I could go on and on on why Warrior is balanced. But I’ll simply get to the point and say,

TL;DR please watch my stream and stop wasting time on the Warrior forums.

twitch.tv/blacktruth009

P.S For when you watch my stream and in turn manage to find the resolve to do crazy plays and builds, keep these words in mind:

“Don’t be afraid, and never look back.”

Because guess what? You’re playing a class that’s meant to be played aggressively. Aggression in this game definitely takes skill though specially on Warrior.

Shieldbash.5304:

choovanski.5462:

arcing arrow often hits for 3k or more on the builds i run. if you think shoutbow, and celestial axe don’t hit hard you are simply not playing them right.

Wow! A whole 3k? oh then I digress……………. Not like other classes hit in the 6-10k regularly even from range?

These are the type of people that I would simply ignore if I were a new player.

They just aren’t helpful, all they do is complain and never get better. I suggest that people watch my stream instead of going on the Warrior forums in all honesty.

P.S You can only complain once you get into the competitive scene, until then don’t bother posting at all until you understand what the real problems should people look into are, no offense to the complainers in all honesty.

It isn’t that bad even if you play it this way in PvP. Non-longbow Warrior is definitely do-able.

http://www.twitch.tv/blacktruth009/c/6121605

http://www.twitch.tv/blacktruth009/c/6099867 (Sorry for mic quality on this one)

My advice is to get better mechanically and get better at making builds. Don’t do stupid things such as not using “stow-weapon,” definitely learn to count cooldowns/dodges, and definitely stop making bad builds with Signet of Fury.

http://www.twitch.tv/blacktruth009/c/6121605

Yep Frenzy is fun. Wish they would add a higher trade-off such as unable to mitigate damage with endure pain but gives you 50% attack speed and increased damage.

witcher.3197:

BlackTruth.6813:

Apparently Zerk stance also works instead of “Fear Me”

With Cleansing ire + warhorn cleanses + shout cleanses you do not need it. A 3rd shout at least brings additional AoE healing/condi cleansing. Or take Balanced Stance for the stability.

Obviously, just that when you’re fighting Path of Corruption necro it can really throw them off.

Apparently Zerk stance also works instead of “Fear Me”

Shoutbow is boring and kinda easy to understand, but out of the meta specs I think it’s the most reasonable one because of the fact that it’s easiest to kill out of all of the current meta specs.

http://www.twitch.tv/blacktruth009/c/6099867

You decide whether rifle is bad or not. Rifle definitely gives Warrior an edge right now on landing DPS.

Around 2:07:20 for rifle potential vs. a top player.

Okay, this time try and down top players with it. That’s your next challenge. Also, try and actually not nit-pick scenes just to make yourself look good LMAO.