Guild Wars 2

Rednik.3809:

Also, imo if guild cannot field force enough for fight blobs alone – this guild not earned place above guilds who can.

Quality over quantity. Being able to field 40+ does not impress anyone.

This list is based of of gvg. 15v15 or 20v20

http://www.twitch.tv/xxkakarot/c/3625622

if you look at around 14-16s you see that I corrupt retal but only 1 stack was applied.
*ignore TS chatter lol

http://www.twitch.tv/xxkakarot/c/3593925
skip to around 49s I used corrupt boon in this duel and it did corrupt retal into 3 stacks of confusion.

BUMP
this needs to be fixed.

http://www.twitch.tv/xxkakarot/c/3625622
if you look at around 14-16s you see that I corrupt retal but only 1 stack was applied.
*ignore TS chatter lol

TC has [GF] Good Fights is active.

1. Warrior (need to be toned down)
2. Necro ( WoC needs to be fixed)
3. Mesmer

WvW standpoint

Andele.1306:

Brando.1374:

retal corruption from this well is in a very bad state.

before the confusion nerf my 3 stacks would tick for up to 1.2k
now since its only 1 stack and the damage was cut in half, I only see 200’s

they should fix this or at least give us an up to date boon corruption table

Im pretty sure that CB still gives 3 confusion… its just that aoes got nerfed (dont quote me on that tho, so much kitten changes behind the scenes and im too lazy to check each patch… or even each month).

yes CB works as intended.

retal corruption from this well is in a very bad state.

before the confusion nerf my 3 stacks would tick for up to 1.2k
now since its only 1 stack and the damage was cut in half, I only see 200’s

they should fix this or at least give us an up to date boon corruption table

Mug was already nerfed once. (can no longer crit)
CnD is fine as it does its job as a burst/set up skill for a backstab

D/D is a burst set and it does its job, any nerf to this will make d/d less desirable.

Can we have anyone from Anet confirm if this is a bug or an intentional nerf.

Well of Corruption is still only giving 1 stack of confusion when we corrupt retaliation.
I was using focused rituals, not yet sure if that has any affect on this.

I was in another GvG and yup it will only give 1 stack of confusion.
I do use the ranged trait, I will need to test without.

selan.8354:

oh really. ill have to test that out. i can remember it usually ticks around 600

corrupt boon works fine and applies 3 stacks of confusion.
its only WoC that only gives 1 now.

im looking at some of my duels and Corrupt boon is working fine and applying 3 stacks but only WoC is applying 1.

I added a round 8 of out 10 round match. you can see all the confusion flying around but only 1 stack or 2xx damage.

No none of the above speculation happened. I places a well and based on the damage I see I only applied 1 stack of confusion.

when you corrupt retal how many stacks of confusion should it give? 3 stacks right?

I ask because Im going through some footage of a gvg we had yesterday and my confusion ticks where in the 200’s when they should be in the 600’s
so only 1 confusion stack was being applied.

Bug or ninja nerf?

http://www.twitch.tv/xxkakarot/c/3682975 round 8, you will be able to see the Pink confusion indicator and 2xx dmg per skill used.

according to the wiki http://wiki.guildwars2.com/wiki/Well_of_corruption
retal = 3 stacks of confusion.

when you corrupt retal how many stacks of confusion should it give? 3 stacks right?

I ask because Im going through some footage of a gvg we had yesterday and my confusion ticks where in the 200’s when they should be in the 600’s
so only 1 confusion stack was being applied.

Bug or ninja nerf?

http://www.twitch.tv/xxkakarot/c/3682975 round 8, you will be able to see the Pink confusion indicator and 2xx dmg per skill used.

according to the wiki http://wiki.guildwars2.com/wiki/Well_of_corruption
retal = 3 stacks of confusion.

Nope.

the issue with pvp/wvw condi burst necro is Dumbfire.
they have found a way to get 100% condi duration (4-8s of burning) along with bleeds and poison.

Now this would not be bad if there was a way to tell when a necro will try to apply burning. with the new Dumbfire patch notes it looks like it will be applied though LB which CAN be avoided! they will no longer have the spam to win mechanic the lazy necro’s have been used to.

I would suggest that you wait until this patch to see if this is still a major problem for most classes since you will now be able to dodge Dumbfire.

Kinda funny how PVE content works just fine, but wvw content comes out broken.

Tim.6450:

Brando.1374:

Tim.6450:

Brando.1374:

OP because there is really no counter to this trait, No way to stop it from being applied because you can dodge as much as you want but once we crit it will proc.
OP because its Mindless/skilless skill spam to be ‘good’

There is a counter to this trait, its called condition removal.

and 10s later its back on the target due to mindless skill spam. nice try though

and by then your sigil of purity is recharged.

But it wont remove burning it will remove cripple or poison, which will be applied faster than burning.

Tim.6450:

Brando.1374:

OP because there is really no counter to this trait, No way to stop it from being applied because you can dodge as much as you want but once we crit it will proc.
OP because its Mindless/skilless skill spam to be ‘good’

There is a counter to this trait, its called condition removal.

and 10s later its back on the target due to mindless skill spam. nice try though

Gambit.8425:

Dhuumfire, OP where exactly?

So much brain fail in this thread, gave me a good chuckle.

OP because there is really no counter to this trait, No way to stop it from being applied because you can dodge as much as you want but once we crit it will proc.
OP because its Mindless/skilless skill spam to be ‘good’

Dumbfire will still be very strong, only thing now is that you will have to time when you apply burning instead of mindless skill spam.

ok well I just recommended dagger to have the cleave but since most want Axe to do it, lets for it.

Come on Anet show necro’s some love

Mad Queen Malafide.7512:

I would suggest the axe instead. An axe is a weapon you swing around, and could logically hit multiple enemies. Where as a dagger is a single-target weapon.

the thing about that is axe can be used from safety of being 600 away while daggers need to be in melee range.
kind of a higher risk more reward type deal.

There is already a thread on the necro forums which is related to this so I decided to start on here.
what Necromancers need is a weapon where our AA will be able to cleave like many or all other classes have.

I would suggest that the Dagger be able to hit 3 targets similar to a warrior axe or thief sword.

Waffler.1257:

Brando.1374:

Necro’s have the ability to down the OP warrior in 15 seconds while taking close to no damage.

http://www.twitch.tv/xxkakarot/c/3439319
Could have been done faster

Yep, warrior without berserker stance is a free kill. Unfortunately, any half-way intelligent warrior will equip zerker stance for a necro fight and then necro is only allowed to run and try to survive for the first 10 seconds of the fight while the warrior pummels them. If you want to post something impressive, make a vid of you beating a good diamond skin ele, not some new person who obviously doesn’t have a good understanding of class mechanics.

Only way I was ever able to beat a dimond skin ele is to swap out my utilites with minions. once he was under 90% i never let him get back above that.

Necro’s are just fine without Dumbfire.
We can still win fights even without Dumbfire cheese.

Jinx.7258:

Muchacho.2390:

Brando.1374:

Necro’s have the ability to down the OP warrior in 15 seconds while taking close to no damage.

http://www.twitch.tv/xxkakarot/c/3439319
Could have been done faster

Well to be fair the warrior was using a sub par build...

No berzerker stance and no real condi removel and he also didnt stun break the fears.
I also guess the necro used dire gear, the most op gear ever...

Downing a warr that doesnt have cleanses with sooo much condi dmg due to broken stats imbalance... skill required, must brag on the forums!

what class would you like for me to post up?

D/D ele? http://www.twitch.tv/xxkakarot/c/3593968
S/F ele? http://www.twitch.tv/xxkakarot/c/3438895
Guardian? http://www.twitch.tv/xxkakarot/c/3593925 (no food)
Power necro? http://www.twitch.tv/xxkakarot/c/3625622
another condi necro? http://www.twitch.tv/xxkakarot/c/3643756

Please let me know which class you want me to record I will be more than happy to try and get it for you.

aspirine.6852:

apt.9184:

This is why devs should not listen to most people on the fourms. This change is great as it is reducing amount of stupid kitten in this game. Although, I wish they would do something about signet of spite already.

It’s great that a grandmaster trait is made useless?

Yes it’s great that this trait in question is useless.
I would prefer that it be removed completely and all nerd due to dumbfire will be reverted.

Brando.1374:

would a 0/30/20/20/0 (with terror but not dumbfire) necro build be on the banned list?

any answer on this?

Andele.1306:

On life blast dhuumfire shouldnt have ICD, otherwise i dont see a problem. Seriously you are gonna force a resource using resources that require you to spend more resources on a cooldown? Which other profession has that?

you do know there is a trait that will make life blast pierce so a ICD is needed to prevent even more QQ and nerfs to the rest of our skills/traits

ZhouFusion.1826:

I only saw the last few minutes of the livestream. and wonder if i should watch it all from the start. (unless u guys tell me the Guaggan finisher was all i needed to see).

thats really all you need to see.

Necro’s need aoe cleave in all their AA.

Loki.7690:

Lololol! It’s one of best necro traits… Remove or nerf? Nevah! “if you run Dumbfire you are bad and should feel bad.” Yea i’m bad muahaha and i don’t feel bad about buring your bleeding face down with my dhuumfire!

I like beating necro’s like you
only think they are good because of this trait then they fight me and they shut up.

Necro’s have the ability to down the OP warrior in 15 seconds while taking close to no damage.

http://www.twitch.tv/xxkakarot/c/3439319
Could have been done faster

would a 0/30/20/20/0 (with terror but not dumbfire) necro build be on the banned list?

Jimmy.1476:

I think if dhuumfire will be really nerfed (by giveing it to life blast and only 3 sec),we(necromancers) need something for compensation,for example more skills(or trait) with torment.

we need to have the 17% terror nerf reverted

NotKalkz.1286:

Banzie.5248:

Straegen.2938:

Brando.1374:

[GF] has been on TC since leagues started I think.

Makes sense. There seem to be some left on EBay but I have not seen them in force for quite some time nor have I seen their scary good players for a long time.

Wonder where EBay goes from here? They were a peak WvW skill based server for a long time but I guess those days are over at least for a while.

Probably drop down a tier with HoD/CD for more balanced match ups while IoJ Takes their spot with DB/BP.

That will be painful to both servers

Ehmry is no longer a T4 or a T5. maybe. T6
Ioj stands no chance against BP and DB. Actually BP is way bigger than DB, only thing that makes DB win is their super asians trains
We’re already tanking DB, If we play during the oceanic/SEA time with full force we’ll not only get the score close but we’ll easily win. but it takes a LOT of efforts and it burns our commanders

also for SoS
They’ve got GH – ZoD – One – Probably [SE] soon
so thats 3 queues during NA time, GG TC and FA :P

or 3 places to get bags

I vote to remove it completely from game!

Straegen.2938:

Who got void? Is GF headed out? What about the loathed (and oft feared) Bsty?

Kudos to the servers that land these powerful guilds. From the outside looking in:

ZoD always seemed a large and decently capable zerg guild.

GH especially several months ago was flat out dangerous at any size. Some good individual fighters in there as well.

Void is/was an impressive skill group that wipes zergs quite a bit bigger than themselves.

GF fields some of the best skirmish groups I have consistently fought against.

[GF] has been on TC since leagues started I think.

Dynnen.6405:

RyuDragnier.9476:

Stand The Wall.6987:

who is bp going to fight now. all we get is the db karma train nowadays.

You can always throw the rest of your matches to force DB up a tier and away from you permanently, but that carries the risk of dropping a tier.

Or xfer to TC and merge forces with GF for some good slaughter for the last couple of months we play this game….hmmmmmmmm…….

Dynnen.6405:

Might xfer my alliance to TC to handle these traitors…

Do IT

they should have removed the trait so be happy its still in game.

yski.7642:

Removing damaging conditions from auto attacks would make them completely useless to condition builds. How could that possibly be a good idea?

Give me immobilize on auto attack and they wish they didnt make this suggestion to remove bleeds/poison from aa.

they got a few guilds xfering over from ehmry bay

Necro staff AA is just bad.
it needs a faster projectile or do more dmg on hit for it to be on par with other staff AA

Can you imaging a necro with a legendary pistol..... confetti of death?

Josh Davis.6015:

Hey all,

I took the positive (like) responses and made a word cloud. It’s not exactly perfect, and don’t worry, it won’t make its way into a powerpoint. I just thought it was kind of interesting.

I’ll make the dislike/negatives word cloud in a bit.

Hope you’re all having a good weekend!

GvG should be bigger in that word cloud.

PPT only shows coverage Nothing to brag about.
the amount of bags just shows how much better at fighting we are compared to the enemy.