Guild Wars 2

I just tried this build in spvp and so far it works nice.
http://gw2skills.net/editor/?fgAQNAsaRlwzKqHTTsGbNJhpHE33A/UBoTqgqLpA35G-TsAg1CnImRNjbGzMyZszM+YJyMCA

I tried to get the stats almost as similar as your build for wvw

I just saw a vid of a necro vs a diamond skin ele......I felt sick watching it.

Jayne.9251:

Zaxares.5419:

Ahh, I see. Isn’t that what GvG is for though? Or do these guilds want the experience of “[X] is holding the Keep. Let’s see if our guild [Y] has the skill to dislodge them, using only guildmates!”? So basically, GvG, but within WvW mechanics instead of just an open-field slugfest?

Naw it’s just a different (cultural) mentality towards WvW play. NA and EU are very different modes of play. One isn’t any better than the other. Just different. They will flip towers and keeps, but mostly to get the fights

Causic most guilds on Piken do run untagged for closed guild events, but we always have one tagged commander on map for the friendlies. Sounds like the OP in this thread ignored that commander and followed the untagged OP commander when asked to follow the tagged one and got shouted at for ignoring original requests. If there is a tag up on map, everyone is welcome to join.

^^This
most Guild group raids dont use a commander tag we target the driver.

Nanyetah Elohi.4852:

Brando.1374:

Nanyetah Elohi.4852:

Guild only just make yourself invisible, and you will not be a problem. No one will follow you. They won’t even see you.

Trust me pugs follow almost any group, with or without the blue Doritos

Not for long. Pugs will go with the main zerg on the person with the guts to tag up.

Guild only doesnt have the right to the honor of having that much guts.

are you serious?
Guild groups dont have guts….. we dont rely on hiding in the mass of the zerg.
we look for a fight not a gate, we down players not keep lords, we help our server more than any karma train will ever be able to.

Nanyetah Elohi.4852:

Brando.1374:

Nanyetah Elohi.4852:

If you want to play only for your guild, use only guild resources. I am sure, nobody will care at all, they will not even notice you except as some odd group running by. They wont care at all if your guild does not tag, does not use chat channels and does not use supply they did not capture themselves.

Trust me if there was an upgrade where only the guild who claimed the camp/tower/keep can get some supply there will be a ton of complaints.

Camp is completely drained as soon as it is capped. You ever seen that not happen? I think I have once or twice.

Guild only, go cap a camp if need supply. Do something useful for change.

…do you not know what guild runs do?
by your comments you make it sound like we run around in a circle playing with our…..well anyway we do cap camps, defend camps/towers when we are in the area.

we also look to fight their zergs or other “guild groups” in order to demoralize them so that your job as zergli….PPT players will be easier since there will be less resistance.

Nanyetah Elohi.4852:

Guild only just make yourself invisible, and you will not be a problem. No one will follow you. They won’t even see you.

Trust me pugs follow almost any group, with or without the blue Doritos

Nanyetah Elohi.4852:

If you want to play only for your guild, use only guild resources. I am sure, nobody will care at all, they will not even notice you except as some odd group running by. They wont care at all if your guild does not tag, does not use chat channels and does not use supply they did not capture themselves.

Trust me if there was an upgrade where only the guild who claimed the camp/tower/keep can get some supply there will be a ton of complaints.

Nanyetah Elohi.4852:

Making people on your server not play definitely does not count as helping your server.

guild only runs dont tell people not to play.

Nanyetah Elohi.4852:

get yer guild group supply from camps your guild group captures and stay out of the server wvw resources if you don’t intend to help your server.

killing enemy players does not count as helping your server anymore?

I ask because most guild only runs are for this purpose.

ZeroArmada.9426:

How bad would my condi be affected if I switched out Terror for Master of Corruption? Idk, just seems like that reduced cooldown would be very nice to have

if you feel ok giving up 800 -1.3k dmg go for it.

ZeroArmada.9426:

Brando.1374:

ZeroArmada.9426:

Flow – I’ve been meaning to ask: Why Perplexity? I don’t understand where the confusion is coming from since, as far as I know, necros don’t have a steady amount of confusion. Unless I’m wrong? Also, the only reason why I had Signet of the Locust on there was just for the increased movement speed

Brando – I like it, but since you’re using spectrals/corruptions, wouldn’t it be better to have the reduced cooldown trait on one of them?

it would be nice but I dont think its heavily needed.

I can always change my utilites for different situations as well as my traits but I always stay 0/30/20/20/0

Hm alright, one more question though: Would the sigil that gives you +10 condition damage for every foe you kill be a better bet than geomancy?

I have a dagger just to get stacks, but once i have my 25 I swap it out. No need for it once I maxed its usefulness.

Jordiboy.2301:

Brando.1374:

their where trolls by the windmill as well.

all we asked for was to remove the bloodlust and that is what anet provided to us.
we didnt ask for a troll free area because lets face it, the trolls are jelly that they cant be as good as us.

pretty sure people asked for a troll free mode a long time ago as well. im just stating that anet tried to accommodate for gvg but they still haven’t gotten it right..

we got the arena which was step 1.
now we need to get this even more popular than their beloved spvp in order for more features to be added.

ZeroArmada.9426:

Flow - I’ve been meaning to ask: Why Perplexity? I don’t understand where the confusion is coming from since, as far as I know, necros don’t have a steady amount of confusion. Unless I’m wrong? Also, the only reason why I had Signet of the Locust on there was just for the increased movement speed

Brando - I like it, but since you’re using spectrals/corruptions, wouldn’t it be better to have the reduced cooldown trait on one of them?

it would be nice but I dont think its heavily needed.

I can always change my utilites for different situations as well as my traits but I always stay 0/30/20/20/0

their where trolls by the windmill as well.

all we asked for was to remove the bloodlust and that is what anet provided to us.
we didnt ask for a troll free area because lets face it, the trolls are jelly that they cant be as good as us.

"I could also claim a real WvW player is the one that plays for objectives and ppt to benefit his server and achieve the win, not just for his own selfish needs.
- Those that play just for fights are selfish don’t care about their server and actually hurt their server, it’s a win the fight lose the war scenario for them.
they don’t care about server win or lose, all they care about is their tunnel vision fights, never looking at the bigger picture."

I have to disagree with this.
there is no point in getting first in ppt since ppt just rates your coverage.

Best way to Handle pugs is just run around in a circle until they leave or auto run in one direction then reverse to leave them behind.

Guilds dont want rally bait to follow them.

Garrisyl.7402:

Meglobob.8620:

Condition damage kills you slow.

5k/sec condi necro dissaggrees.

Only way my necro can reach 5k/sec is with 20+ stacks of bleeds, burn, psn, terror

anyone who lets themselves get that many bleeds on then should die.

Chris.3290:

ykyk.2740:

Usagi.4835:

Chris.3290:

I see TC attacked us on FA BL earlier to make sure they could lose to FA 1 on 1. What is happening over there? Did everyone with a brain go do fractals for the weekend?

We don’t have brains? Is it me or does your horse get higher with every post you make?

Shine bright like a diamond. QQ

Didn’t you hear? Everyone has to play according to the ppt-focused master plan grand strategy type thing. If you want to just go onto a WvW map and fight whoever the hell you want as if WvW is a casual game mode then you get scolded on the forums.

Everyone knows that, casual.

Uggh, too much exposure to Maguuma obviously has had a negative effect on both of you.

My horse????

Your Horse is Amazing!

http://gw2skills.net/editor/?fQMQNAW7YjMax7Zbib07JAJFX/8kis/O6xxBrMA-jgCB4iRG1BgkGm8IQZSFRjtGsIasKZCRqbY6Yp2YGTKAImGB-e

this is what I use every day. works well for me.

Is [blnt] kitten or something?

mag and yb double team thread....

Bweaty.9187:

It’s actually rather week by itself. Half duration burning, for 30 traits in a non-condi dam line, with very long CD.

It’s just because the necro has more condi’s than can be cleansed.

700+ dmg a second for 2-3 seconds every 10 seconds as long as you can crit isnt weak if you ask me.

Incurafy.6329:

Brando.1374:

Asomal.6453:

ahuba.6430:

Signet of vampirism is another winner! Take 350 damage for HITTING THEM? Worse, they heal for 300 health points? This is the new worst skill in the game now, this is healing signet made worse. Thieves will probably die from hitting the necro alone LOL

My thoughts, exactly. I guess if I’m playing my thief and I see a Necro/Mesmer with the new skills, I’ll just run.

if you hit us for 1-100k we will only be able to heal for 300 and damage you for 350.
you should be able to burst us down or hit us hard enough so that this heal will be ineffective.

What game are you playing where Thief burst doesn’t completely suck in sPvP now, let alone can hit for 100k? I’d love to know, it sounds much better than the bunkery crap we have right now.

good lord, my point was no matter how hard you hit us it will damage you the same and heal us the same.
hit us harder and this healing skill will be useless.

I would be interesting to see this happen but some sort of a penalty should be applied for killing afk people or people who wont fight back.

Asomal.6453:

ahuba.6430:

Signet of vampirism is another winner! Take 350 damage for HITTING THEM? Worse, they heal for 300 health points? This is the new worst skill in the game now, this is healing signet made worse. Thieves will probably die from hitting the necro alone LOL

My thoughts, exactly. I guess if I’m playing my thief and I see a Necro/Mesmer with the new skills, I’ll just run.

if you hit us for 1-100k we will only be able to heal for 300 and damage you for 350.
you should be able to burst us down or hit us hard enough so that this heal will be ineffective.

Travlane.5948:

Clumsy.6257:

wait, your saying that the standard wvw d/d glass thief build and the meta pve build is somehow only used by you? and theres absolutely no way youll ever hit higher than 70k, its physically impossible ever since assassin signet nerf

no. nobody uses this build. not even me. it has no defense. u can backstab 20k regularly….but wtf is the point. you die before you stomp.

dont run solo when playing pure glass

15v15 looks to be a good spot for a gvg.
if this was to actually happen [GF] might actually be active again.

5 guards, 4 ele, 2 warriors, 3 necro, 1 mes

its worked for us.

you loose stacks on down.
Working as intended.

caveman.5840:

Deathspike.1870:

3000 power and hitting 3500~4500? On what? Warriors? Yeah that happens.

Try hitting a thief. It will hit for ~8000-12000. Or maybe a Ranger (the non-bunker ones).

it does not matter what class i am attacking my back stabs r all ways 3500-4500. is that low or is it just me ? again i have 3000power/50precision/50 crit what can i do to get a better back stab ? with almost full zerk armor and weps/ 2ascendent daggers…. i have 30 in crit 30 in stealth & 10 in the last one … and there people running sword dagger and getting huge backstabs . how r that doing this i can only get a 1500 back stab with sword dagger lol ???? any help would be awesome

Please tell me how to backstab with sword dagger?

Artaz.3819:

Reverence.6915:

If you think there’s hate on SBI… Take a look at all the troll posts against BG. Just comes as baggage for being awesome? Haha

If BG was hated as much as SBI, they wouldn’t be first in gold league. There would have been unanimous consent to double-team over and over.

That being said, I like playing the SBI villian It’s actually one of the highlights of the entire WvW season and why SBI really is the winner for weeks to come (after the season ends).

Yes, there are some really bad players on SBI but really no more relative to most other servers. What’s happened in the last few weeks of WvW is there is a lot of sabotage/trolling/spying happening (probably on both ends)…sad really.

I think BG has bought enough guilds to defend against a 2v1

Arbyit.9462:

Been running conditions for a while, but feel ineffective due to heavy condi cleanse when fighting hammer trains. I’ve been looking into a wells build, but I don’t want to sacrifice my 1v1 capabilities. Should I keep my condition build or go for a power build?

all of the GF Necro’s ran condi builds. PM me is you what the build we used.

Nice duels in the new arena.
a few trolls but they where taken care of. we made a fun game out of it lol.

WhiteAndMilky.2514:

Guy made it clear last night he wanted to duel, he bowed then attacked me before I could even bow back. I beat him and spiked. He then invited me and got angry that I spiked him.

Was it within my right to spike someone who initiated a fight before I had accepted it? I thought so.

no not really. you should have just trolled him a bit while he was trying to heal up.
stomping wasnt needed.

Stand The Wall.6987:

all the power build only users will keep crying until the end of time because dhuumfire added that extra damage to put necros on par with zerk bursters. meanwhile condi warriors, engis, and mesmers have been enjoying way more survivability plus confusion stacking.

wait what…..
I would rather take the 20% extra dmg when enemy is under 50%hp as a power build.

Same thing could have happened and did happen behind the windmill.

during an actual fight club session or GvG those trolls will be stomped until they cry.

phaeris.7604:

Confusion damage is a too high considering how easy it is to stack it for various classes and the fact it activates on nearly every action.

I was watching my stack hit for 1k per action on some ranger yesterday…that’s more than my auto attacks.

Confusion was already Nerfed and wasnt an issue until these runes came out and people started to abuse them.

it only applies to Direct damage.
Conditions are not effected by this trait.

Player Character.9467:

Why would anet update the wiki…

well someone should update it

http://wiki.guildwars2.com/wiki/Control_effect

Per the wiki
“Control effects, also known as disables, are a set of effects that temporarily prevent actions or movement and disable all skills for the effect’s duration. All control effects will interrupt the target”

List of Control effects:
Daze.png Daze
Fear.png Fear
Float.png Float1
Knockback.png Knockback (Push)
Knockdown.png Knockdown
Launch.png Launch (Blowout)
Push.png Pull
Sink.png Sink1
Stun.png Stun
Petrified.png Petrified caused by Thief tango icon 20px.png Basilisk Venom
Elementalist tango icon 20px.png Ice block caused by Deep Freeze from Conjure Frost Bow.

so why does Fear not count as an interrupt in game?

Rennoko.5731:

clint.5681:

Brando.1374:

clint.5681:

Rennoko.5731:

Josh Davis.6015:

The 6/6 bonus on Runes of Perplexity now have a 8 second cooldown. This was excluded from the patch notes, but we’re in the process of getting them added.

Thought you guys would like to know.

Any word on why fear never causes an interrupt effect?

Not that I would use these runes if I could…. certainly not!

Fear is an condition and not a CC effect like daze/stun/knockback

in that case it should not be affected by stun breaks and stability since int not a CC effect skill?

I dont make the game bro i just play it

The point still stands that it “interrupts” your skill casting. I don’t know why people think because it is a CC condition it should get the worst of both worlds. Stun breakable, cleanse-able, blocked by stability.

I think the ICD should be closer to 30. But I see no reason why it continues to not work with fear.

http://wiki.guildwars2.com/wiki/Control_effect

Fear is listed as a skill that should interrupt. Anet needs to update the wiki or fix fear so it can cause an interrupt.

Just use standard unwritten fight club rules and we should be good.

sephiroth.4217:

Merrikk.6790:

FA: practice your citadel jumping skills this week so you can kill SBI’s citadel trebs easier than we can.

I want to throw SBI a bone here, hey, our N camp yak that heads to NE tower has been bugged since reset. Maybe you can make your home in our NE tower. Forever paper — your pugs can even pv-door like old times.

Wouldn’t count on it, they too busy zerging the new obsidium sanctum.

(more under DB spawn, some around the corner waiting to jump ppl who get fall damage)

its worse up in gold.

WhiteAndMilky.2514:

Warthog.6870:

RIP BG roamers…

RIP Mag roamers…

I luled

Arena has been released.
what do you guys think?

ArkAngel.7940:

You think people will be there literally 24/7? You guys are such whiners. They disabled bloodlust and gave a nice open space to do your so called “GvG” and you complain about the players being in there. Get the hell off your high and mighty podium and take this spot. They didn’t have to do this at all. You guys are wrong in the head.

So sick of this toxic “GvG” community.

the only valid complaint i see is the fact that you can not have multiple GvG;s scheduled on the same day.

aside from that this arena is perfect.

clint.5681:

Rennoko.5731:

Josh Davis.6015:

The 6/6 bonus on Runes of Perplexity now have a 8 second cooldown. This was excluded from the patch notes, but we’re in the process of getting them added.

Thought you guys would like to know.

Any word on why fear never causes an interrupt effect?

Not that I would use these runes if I could…. certainly not!

Fear is an condition and not a CC effect like daze/stun/knockback

in that case it should not be affected by stun breaks and stability since int not a CC effect skill?

Josh Davis.6015:

The 6/6 bonus on Runes of Perplexity now have a 8 second cooldown. This was excluded from the patch notes, but we’re in the process of getting them added.

Thought you guys would like to know.

Not long enough.
it should be at least 15s

GOSU.9574:

I am not always on top of the direction of every mode of the game, but was it ever given as a fact any area of the new map was intended for GvG? Just curious.

it is intended for GvG.

anyone who thinks otherwise is in denial.