Guild Wars 2

Moon.6371:

I guess, that`s why the old pre-dumbfirepatch terror-builds were beyond broken and necros were flooding tournaments and wvw alike…. oh wait.

Or is it because setting up a proper fear chain actually involves active play, timing and positioning while dumbfire is a passive on-hit brainafk monkey trait? So many questions…

Engis have that as an adept, along with tons of confusion. Granted its being moved to master, but they also have the ability to easily maintain 25 stacks of might in a fight. But there burn trait is fine? How is necros OP and theres isn’t? Necros is also a shorter duration.

With 2k condi dmg (not hard with stacks) terror is 1k x 2 with another condi on them, which if you don’t youre doing it wrong

I run this and have fun with it. Eviscerate does 8-10k crits. Blinds will kill you tho.

https://forum-en.gw2archive.eu/external?l=http%3A%2F%2Fgw2skills.net%2Feditor%2F%3FfIMQRAne8ZjkOpwFPCPMxBAkirqyo4ngUPszt4A-jkyAY%2FioRTUAILJjKAmALiGbzoIas6aMlbSVxCy28ioVLFgeCjA-w

flow.6043:

Carpboy.7145:

I dont think its dhuumfire thats broken. Its terror thats broken.

Troll?

A grandmaster with a base 4 sec of burning is completely fine. But a master that does 2k per sec, combined with loss of control of their character is a tad OP

Im considering working on frostfang for my asura necro. Any pics of anyone with it would be appreciated

I dont think its dhuumfire thats broken. Its terror thats broken.

paleeshi.1924:

Thanks, looks good Very nice stats!

Edit: I just have a question. How do you have offensive infusions in all pieces if you are using ALL cavalier pieces, meaning they should be 2 of the same type and not unique…

That’s just the calculator

No WvW isn’t good until youre level 80. Even though you are up leveled, you don’t have all the traits, skills, or stats a real 80 would. My suggestion would be to level a bit until you get a basic understanding of game mechanics and youre class. From then on just do hot joins hot joins hot joins. If someone calls you a kitten in a hot join, theyre the real kitten. When you get bored of spvp, level some more until you hit 80 and then you can WvW. Out of curiosity, what class are you playing, as i can probably help you out a lot with a build. If youve played any other mmos, what classes and play styles have you liked from them?

https://forum-en.gw2archive.eu/forum/professions/ranger/My-new-BM-Bunker-Build-i-m-running

This guys also got several videos on YouTube, search xsorus

https://forum-en.gw2archive.eu/forum/professions/necromancer/Ascii-s-WvW-Wellomancer-Build

I decided to make a new necro with a power build too and made a thread here.

https://forum-en.gw2archive.eu/forum/professions/necromancer/Power-necro-for-WvW

And this is what i eventually decided, once i hit 80

https://forum-en.gw2archive.eu/external?l=http%3A%2F%2Fgw2skills.net%2Feditor%2F%3FfQAQRBIhdu1IjW2elm4GDfCB6RuULOTUhjh6h7APfIA-jwxAY%2FBRTWCNRIQJwiox2MKiGr2GTFTEVLDg%2BEA-e

Slight variation

http://gw2skills.net/editor/?fQAQRBIhdu1IjWxelm4GDfCB6RvULOTUhjh6h7APfIA-jACBYfDimsI0EBBKBqIasNDFRjVXDTFjIq2OWZVGA9JA-e

Here’s a video someone posted of a full berserker necro in WvW

I decided to make a new necro with a power build too and made a thread here.

https://forum-en.gw2archive.eu/forum/professions/necromancer/Power-necro-for-WvW

And this is what i eventually decided, once i hit 80

https://forum-en.gw2archive.eu/external?l=http%3A%2F%2Fgw2skills.net%2Feditor%2F%3FfQAQRBIhdu1IjW2elm4GDfCB6RuULOTUhjh6h7APfIA-jwxAY%2FBRTWCNRIQJwiox2MKiGr2GTFTEVLDg%2BEA-e

Slight variation

http://gw2skills.net/editor/?fQAQRBIhdu1IjWxelm4GDfCB6RvULOTUhjh6h7APfIA-jACBYfDimsI0EBBKBqIasNDFRjVXDTFjIq2OWZVGA9JA-e

Here’s a video someone posted of a full berserker necro in WvW

DONT QUEUE UP FOR TOURNAMENTS ON DAY TWO!!! If you were just in regular hot joins then that guy was an kitten, but if it was tournaments like i suspect since you mention queue, i completely understand. Get familiar with basic game mechanics, and even then only do hot joins until you have a good understanding of pvp. There arent really arenas in this game, unless you count dueling servers which dont reward you anythin anyway. If you came from WoW, every match is basically arathi basin. You were also probably using some year old cruddy build. Research your class a bit for a good build.

Sorry if i came off rude, just trying to advise you. We were all new once.

Just dont expect to do any WvW or spvp with it

Magmorel.7806:

Master of Timespace.2548:

Magmorel.7806:

So recently made a post about ranger, and many people said with my play style i should go eather Warrior or Theif.

Been trying warrior and I like it a lot more than theif so far.

But all I hear is that Warrior is horrible for pvp and you will just lose any fight against some one who is even semi compitent at the game.

Is this true? I really enjoye the PvP aspect of these kind of games and I dont wanna level my Warrior to 80 and do everything I need to do just to be pretty much stuck doing nothing but PvE cuz its all my class is good at.

I dont understand a lot of it cuz half the post say how Warrior is just op, and then the other half say that Warrior is just awful and only no brain kids play them.

Why is there so much hate towards the Warrior class? Also are they good at PvP? I dont need them to be an easy mode class for PvP but if i go through all the work just to find out im gonna lose no matter how good and how knowledgable i am of the classes and my class, just becuase im not a theif or a condi necromancer well then whats the point in the end?

What is it with posts like these? Warrior IS the easy mode class at the moment. S/d thief and condimancer, while both strong, aren’t still even close to warriors…

How so? I meen i don’t want to be rude, but you haven’t said anything to back up your claims.

Also im not here complaining about Warriors or other classes, i just want to know if its truly worth it to level a Warrior.

If Warriors are just horrible at PvP and that is my main enjoyment with games like this, well than why make one? I would rather just make a different class that is still fun but can at least enter PvP and do fine.

Warriors are the most OP class right now. Its that we can have bunker sustain with zerker DPS. Serv here is just on a troll spree for some reason. Level a warrior. They’re awesome and insane at pvp. If you don’t believe me, find the hambone build, get a general understanding of how it works, and basic game mechanics. Once in spvp you’re level 80 with same gear, traits, and skills as everyone else. Test whatever you want there for free.

I dont even understand where your getting that warrior is UP, except from one known trolls post.

Serv.6073:

Master of Timespace.2548:

Serv.6073:

Master of Timespace.2548:

Serv.6073:

And those who say warriors aren’t op must not play other classes(much).

Fixed it for ya.

If you are not here to help please do not post thanks.

Says the troll.

If against all odds you feel weak on your warrior, then it is because you don’t have a good build. Search for a proper meta build and you should do fine.

I am not a troll,you have been warned once ok.

Troll.

Seriously its not warriors that are UP. L2pvp with one of the easiest and most OP classes. If this wouldve come up before the hammer and healing signet patch, id whole heartledly agree with you

Serv, i understand youre a new player, but please before posting all these completely untruthful and trolly topics, learn what you’re talking about. For those who are wondering, look at his post history.

TLDR: L2P

ronpierce.2760:

Vaikenn.8371:

7/10 I see a lot of Arah Armor. They need more necroy looking stuff in GW2

9/10, I actually like this because for once, the colors are pretty well handled, but finally someone made a good use for the trickster legs. I just can’t do it without it looking silly. (Usually too skimpy looking).

I updated my colors/staff and a few other parts, and got my Spore back pieces. I’m loving the close-to finished product of my necro in PvP!

What gloves and shoulders are those? Are they from the new LS?

I decided to make a new necro with a power build too and made a thread here.

https://forum-en.gw2archive.eu/forum/professions/necromancer/Power-necro-for-WvW

And this is what i eventually decided, once i hit 80

https://forum-en.gw2archive.eu/external?l=http%3A%2F%2Fgw2skills.net%2Feditor%2F%3FfQAQRBIhdu1IjW2elm4GDfCB6RuULOTUhjh6h7APfIA-jwxAY%2FBRTWCNRIQJwiox2MKiGr2GTFTEVLDg%2BEA-e

Slight variation

http://gw2skills.net/editor/?fQAQRBIhdu1IjWxelm4GDfCB6RvULOTUhjh6h7APfIA-jACBYfDimsI0EBBKBqIasNDFRjVXDTFjIq2OWZVGA9JA-e

Here’s a video someone posted of a full berserker necro in WvW

Whoever was stomping you either blinded you or had stability. Not a bug

Ok. //15charssss

There’s also a guy on YouTube, Joseph Wagner, he runs that same perplexity build, called the auto kill build. Hes also got a bunker condition build too. Plus rage faces are always cool.

https://forum-en.gw2archive.eu/forum/professions/guardian/I-Hate-my-Warrior-Guardian-Better-Choice

:O i guess you got over that quickly

There isn’t a single interrupt on that build you posted. brainfart? Apothecary gear is pretty useless on warr, since healing signet and adrenal health scale so poorly with healing power. If you want to run perplexity here is what most people use.

http://gw2skills.net/editor/?fIAQNAseTjkOpwpO2OMRCCkirUFjieI+ThkoUMH7A-jECB4iCik0gkHBKHqIasl1FRjVzATxiIq2hoIa1SBAzcA-w

Each interrupt stacks 9 confusion, whereas other perplexity users only stack 5. With your 3 interrupts and the x4 on the runes, you can stack 30 stacks quite easily.

Lifeson.4352:

WvW Roaming: http://gw2skills.net/editor/?fIAQJARSjkOxwxO+OMxBEkCNkLMK6BgQ9YOsj4A-jkBBYfBiWOQJPFRjtMqIas6aYqYER1yAwsAA-w

But as soon as you run across a condition build theyll eat you alive without zerker stance or cleansing ire. And without unsuspecting foe we won’t get 90% crit chance on 100b

So ive tried making a build with hammer and GS. With the needs to hammer coming, i decided to just focus it purely on the setup and getting the most damage possible from 100b.

http://gw2skills.net/editor/?fIAQJARSjkOFvpQCPMxBE0DNsK4ijCAUJUKmD7A-jkBBYfBiWOQJPFRjtMqIas6aYqYER1yAwsAA-w

Now that i think about it tho, isn’t GS+Ma/Sh better for this?

Zietlogik.6208:

Carpboy.7145:

Here is what i use. Also furious is amazing. You can literally use your f1s off CD. Also since dual shot is 2 hits, if both of them crit your getting 6 strikes of adrenaline from one auto. My favorite part is the longbow auto hits twice, allowing twice the chance for on crit affects. I’ve gotten 10+ stacks of bleed and burn, all from just using LB.

http://gw2skills.net/editor/?fIAQNAscTjkOFvpQCPMxBEkCNsKOPSilg8UKmD7A-jECBYhCiUFRkkGITqIas1XFRjVzATliIq2hoIa1CBsYNA-w

Ill swap out zerker stance for endure pain based on whatever build ill be fighting
Runes are pretty important. We get 50% bleed duration from traits, 40% condi duration from food, and 10% condi duration from runes. In total, bleeds are 100% duration, and burns are 50% duration. Plus that fear from the x6 of nightmare always seems to off at the clutchest moments for me.

I used to use Furious, but they nerfed it, it is only double adrenaline now instead of triple, pre-nerf it was good, but now I don’t think it is really worth taking as a grandmaster trait. They are also buffing Last Chance in the Dec patch (50% threshhold, with 40 sec CD)

When did they nerf it? It doesn’t really affect that build anyway tho since i can still use my burst skills off CD.

Thats really really high, so you’re fine. Most people will sit at 1.4-1.7k condi dmg for a pure condition build

I’ve actually already got a heal build in my signature. You could check it out to see what i use.

Stand The Wall.6987:

conditions are not liked in dungeons, because is doesnt make any sense to take 3min instead of 1min to kill a boss. all lfg groups you get will want you to be zerk, unless you join a guild that likes to do dungeons with no exploits. its not too hard to get 2 sets of armor plus it will make your necro experience alot more enjoyable. check the top of this forum for builds.

Exploits? How is something put in the game by Anet(reflects and berserker gear, timing blinds and dodges) an exploit? This is one of the dumbest posts ive ever seen.

FYI ive been making this for solo roaming. Not interested in zerging. What about this? Only thing i can see is i lose a good chunk of power.

http://gw2skills.net/editor/?fQAQRBIhdu1IjW2elm4GDfCB6RuULOTUhjh6h7APfIA-jwxAY/BRTWCNRIQJwiox2MKiGr2GTFTEVLDg+EA-e

Here is what i use. Also furious is amazing. You can literally use your f1s off CD. Also since dual shot is 2 hits, if both of them crit your getting 6 strikes of adrenaline from one auto. My favorite part is the longbow auto hits twice, allowing twice the chance for on crit affects. I’ve gotten 10+ stacks of bleed and burn, all from just using LB.

http://gw2skills.net/editor/?fIAQNAscTjkOFvpQCPMxBEkCNsKOPSilg8UKmD7A-jECBYhCiUFRkkGITqIas1XFRjVzATliIq2hoIa1CBsYNA-w

Ill swap out zerker stance for endure pain based on whatever build ill be fighting
Runes are pretty important. We get 50% bleed duration from traits, 40% condi duration from food, and 10% condi duration from runes. In total, bleeds are 100% duration, and burns are 50% duration. Plus that fear from the x6 of nightmare always seems to off at the clutchest moments for me.

Ok so ive actually been playing around with this and like it a lot, at least on paper. Its got lots of CC, and perma weakness/decent protection uptime, which is why im going full berserker. Banshees wail is a 4 sec AoE daze. And if i drop my fear wall then spectral grasp them towards me, they’ll get feared away. So i can drop my damage. After that use wail/ charge, whichever while continually damaging them.

http://gw2skills.net/editor/?fQAQRBIhdu1IjW4e1m3G9eCA6Ru16ckijXmSB8oD-jQCBYfDimgAmsIiUBAJPFRjtkqIas6aYKXER1WzFRrWKA9UGB-e

Looks good on paper, but ive gotta try it out in the world.

Nagato no Kami.4980:

Carpboy.7145:

Im looking for a bursty necro build for WvW. Kinda sick of conditions. Anyway i was thinking something like this.

http://gw2skills.net/editor/?fQAQRBIhdu1IjW6exm1G9eCB6RuULOTUBkh6h7APfIA-jQCBYfDimgAmsIiUBAJPFRjt4qIas6aYKXER1WzFRrWKA9UGB-e

Kinda unsure how to play it, whats skills to use etc. if anyone has any videos or anything that would be awesome:)

This pretty much looks like a typical 30/10/0/0/30 glass cannon build.

A few notes:

I’d be wary of using Blood is Power and Scholar runes at the same time. Your build is extremely squishy so self-inflicting damage seems to me a bad idea and will put you close to that 90% threshhold. If you want might, eat Truffle Sautee or replace Spiteful Talisman with Reaper’s Might.

Spectral Grasp is kind of a bad idea, IMO. You are brittle. Your armor is a t-shirt and a pair of daisy dukes. If you use this on a melee class with respectable armor, you will, in all probability, die. As a glass cannon, your best bet is to float around fights in DS or Lich while inflicting massive amount of ranged damage and hope that no one gets close enough to you to hit you.

I think the part about scholar runes is definitely true. So i swapped BiP for a well. Thing is spectral grasp makes runners cry i know most power necros choose lich form, but i went flesh golem since i am very squishy, and that extra cc will help a lot in my survivability. So if im using D’S to absorb the big hits, and ccing when needed, they won’t have a lot of time to do much else before theyre dead. So ill immob them with dagger 3 and drop a well. Then ill use banshee wail after immob wears off. And after banshee wail wears off ill use flesh golem charge. At this point they should be downed or extremely low. I can use spectral grasp to pull them back and discourage running, then finish them off in D’S so i wont take any damage.

Im looking for a bursty necro build for WvW. Kinda sick of conditions. Anyway i was thinking something like this.

http://gw2skills.net/editor/?fQAQRBIhdu1IjW6exm1G9eCB6RuULOTUBkh6h7APfIA-jQCBYfDimgAmsIiUBAJPFRjt4qIas6aYKXER1WzFRrWKA9UGB-e

Kinda unsure how to play it, whats skills to use etc. if anyone has any videos or anything that would be awesome:)

Here’s a condi nade build. HGH synergies very well with nades and bombs because they have such good raw damage as well. Can easily maintain 20+ might stacks with this build.

http://gw2skills.net/editor/?fcAQJAqal0piYnvSdF17ISoC4noHPGlNZfe8WsFEC-jACBoOBkWAgEBMHqIasVhFRjVzATxiIq2hoIa1SBAxcA-e

Depends what you want to do. Tanky Dps, glass cannon, solid cannon, condition, complete tank.

I think engineer.

pvtmiller.2641:

My current build is 20,10,10,10,20. How come no one puts traits into strength in wvw builds? I usually used axe mace with berserker armor and trinkets for my pve dungeon for the full amount of dps. But the mace sheild and gs looks fun, but what traits should i use for good survivability and dps? Also, should i switch to knight armor for extra survivability?

Don’t go so spread out with your traits

Still wish i could watch on mobile :/

Sarahfull.4930:

Im here aswell if you want to do stuff, although im also Na server

Idk if you know this, but the link in your signature doesn’t work. Just lettin you know.

Well what do you want in WvW? Solo or zerging? The most popular are Static Discharge(SD) which is just huge burst. Then theres HGH builds(power or condi). Some people use FT/EG builds, which actually arent bad like some people will tell you. Thing with engi is theres a few basic builds, but a million variants of each one.

Could easily swap the Sw/Ma to a GS. In fact i might do that myself.

https://forum-en.gw2archive.eu/external?l=http%3A%2F%2Fgw2skills.net%2Feditor%2F%3FfIMQRAne8ZjkOpwFPCPMxBAkirqyo4ngUPszt4A-jkyAY%2FioRTUAILJjKAmALiGbzoIas6aMlbSVxCy28ioVLFgeCjA-w

Etaoin.4362:

I hadn’t considered scholar. I might have to try that for the upped damage output. I’ve also used Hoelbrak, but I love the reduced stun duration from Melandru. The power boost is nice, though. I guess Lyssa is a solid choice, then (and I do love that condition cleanse).

The build itself is a bit of an all-rounder. Clearly it’s not optimized for PvE (otherwise I’d just go bersker GS, etc, etc), so the two remaining choices would be sPvP and WvW.

As I mentioned, I play around with this sort of build a lot in PvP, and I have fun with it. It’s not optimal for any particular role, but it offers some decent support and bunker capacity (assuming I haven’t just blown berserker stance, dolyak signet, last stand, AND shrug it off…which happens when fighting three necros at once). I’m no pro, though, so it’s mostly just for laughs. It is nice seeing my score at or toward the top of the match, although that could be a fluke.

For WvW, I tend to either run with a zerg or do a little roaming when the map is quiet. When on my own or with a small group, I use the build to take camps and guard posts, and I guess it does so relatively well. I die plenty, but I also survive being outmatched fairly well, and I feel comfortable going up against players at my level in a 1v1 (although the best time I ever had was when I took down two Asura thieves that tried to gank me).

Should that affect my rune choices?

@Rigel: I am not quite sure what the underlying theory of the build is. Could you explain it for me?

I think the biggest thing with builds is doing what you feel comfortable with and what works for you. Someone else could try it and get completely different results. So i think youre good.

FinalPatriot.8034:

So, with this condi version of the LB +S/S build, is it a good idea to stack perplexity runes?

Is that even a question? How many interrupts does Sw/Sw+LB have? But if you use Sw/Sh with stomp or bulls charge, and distracting strikes, thats different.

Here is what i use. Also furious is amazing. You can literally use your f1s off CD. Also since dual shot is 2 hits, if both of them crit your getting 6 strikes of adrenaline from one auto. My favorite part is the longbow auto hits twice, allowing twice the chance for on crit affects. I’ve gotten 10+ stacks of bleed and burn, all from just using LB. I almost never swap to Sw except to reapply torment and to finish people off with leap and sword f1.

http://gw2skills.net/editor/?fIAQNAscTjkOFvpQCPMxBEkCNsKOPSilg8UKmD7A-jECBYhCiUFRkkGITqIas1XFRjVzATliIq2hoIa1CBsYNA-w

Ill swap out zerker stance for endure pain based on whatever build ill be fighting
Runes are pretty important. We get 50% bleed duration from traits, 40% condi duration from food, and 10% condi duration from runes. In total, bleeds are 100% duration, and burns are 50% duration. Plus that fear from the x6 of nightmare always seems to off at the clutchest moments for me.

If you wanted to use perplexity I’d just take 20 from arms into strength and use stomp and either kick or bulls charge with offhand shield.

Also bit off topic, wouldnt it be cool if rip on offhand sword had like a 1sec daze on it?

I think lyssa is good, especially if youve got the trained signet cool down. Divinity and melandru are good, scholar actually works even better on tanky wares, since you regen up to full all the time. I forgot to ask, is this for spvp or WvW?

Yeah, if a warrior sacrifices all defense, and uses one of the highest damaging abilities in the game, that is very telegraphed and can be blinded/evaded very easily, not to mention once he misses its got a 7 sec CD minimum and he won’t be able to do much else during those 7 seconds. Please, 0/10, bad troll is bad.

Etaoin.4362:

Well, I guess to answer the first question I would have to say that I am looking for something more along the lines of the first option (given I run 0/0/30/30/10). I want to deal as much damage as possible, but I am not looking to make an outright DPS’er.

That is what led me here to ask about gear from the beginning: It seems that at some point stacking additional toughness and vitality would be less and less effective (e.g. Is that extra 100 toughness really doing anything?). At that point, it seems it would be better to build for direct or condition damage. My question is at what point do you stop seeing a distinct benefit from armor rating post, say, 3300, or do you keep getting significant reductions for incoming damage?

I am familiar with some of the resources on this (e.g. the original guru thread on damage calculations), but it seems like there would be some point at which it becomes more prudent to focus on damage output rather than input, even if you want to go tank-y.

I think 1700-2kish toughness is where DR starts. Now dolyak signet and 5 in defense will give you 280 toughness, so its up to you to include that or not when min maxing your gear. I think when solo roaming tho, the biggest thing is killing your enemies as quick as possible to lessen the chance of more enemies or a Zerg appearing. That and mobility. Full tank builds dont really have a place, except in zergs. We already are pretty tanky with adrenal health and healing signet, and as long as youve got 1700 toughness minimum, you’ll be a force to be reckoned with.

Hmm… I’d definitely suggest different weapons then. I think if you practices and watched some videos with the condi build tho that would help you a lot. I almost never swap to Sw except to reapply torment and to finish people off with leap and sword f1. You could also try a hybrid build. Just swap celestial armor in on the build i put above.

So, the big question. Do you want to be a total tank, with 0 damage output? Or a tanky dps, still tanky but some decent damage output as well. Or do you want to be a high damage build with some decent defense? For all out tankiness slap on PTV gear with 10 0 30 30 0 and shouts heal. But your damage will be so insanely low you might as well not even have a weapon.

Now you said in your edited OP you don’t really like GS, but it can fit into a tanky dps build very well. I think Sw/Sh synergies very well with GS since shield bash and sword f1 are the perfect set ups for 100blades.

http://gw2skills.net/editor/?fIIQNAseRjkOFvBPqQMxBEkCNsKMP6BgoIUKmD7A-jkCBYfQYLChkFRkKAI5RaNBSIsZoIas6aYqYER1WzER1CBYeCA-w

Final thrust hits EXTREMELY hard below 50%. Also, its kind of a strange balance between using your adrenaline or not. You’ve got a flat +15% dmg increase and health regen when its full, but you’ve also got cleansing ire and 20 in discipline.

When you use f1 on sword if you swap weapons, the immobilize will lay the whole 6 seconds and you can use 100b.

I think Sw/Sh synergies very well with GS since shield bash and sword f1 are the perfect set ups for 100blades.

http://gw2skills.net/editor/?fIIQNAseRjkOFvBPqQMxBEkCNsKMP6BgoIUKmD7A-jkCBYfQYLChkFRkKAI5RaNBSIsZoIas6aYqYER1WzER1CBYeCA-w

Final thrust hits EXTREMELY hard below 50%. Also, its kind of a strange balance between using your adrenaline or not. You’ve got a flat +15% dmg increase and health regen when its full, but you’ve also got cleansing ire and 20 in discipline.

Etaoin.4362:

Ah, sorry, I meant mace/sword, not mace/shield, but the point still applies. On the other hand, my swap is a ranged weapon (long bow). I could just pack on sword/x or gs, though.

If you use a GS in a condi build, you’re using it ONLY for the mobility never attack with. That also means you need as much condi application you can get out of you offset.

Experiment with what you like, but theres a reason people use S/S and LB in condi builds. It has mobility, range, best condi application, and soft CC.

Here is what i use. Also furious is amazing. You can literally use your f1s off CD. Also since dual shot is 2 hits, if both of them crit your getting 6 strikes of adrenaline from one auto. My favorite part is the longbow auto hits twice, allowing twice the chance for on crit affects. I’ve gotten 10+ stacks of bleed and burn, all from just using LB.

http://gw2skills.net/editor/?fIAQNAscTjkOFvpQCPMxBEkCNsKOPSilg8UKmD7A-jECBYhCiUFRkkGITqIas1XFRjVzATliIq2hoIa1CBsYNA-w

Ill swap out zerker stance for endure pain based on whatever build ill be fighting

Runes are pretty important. We get 50% bleed duration from traits, 40% condi duration from food, and 10% condi duration from runes. In total, bleeds are 100% duration, and burns are 50% duration. Plus that fear from the x6 of nightmare always seems to off at the clutchest moments for me.