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I don’t think Revenant is ready enough to become viable in its current state, unless you’re trying to secure your own spot, its a good way to go. although its one of their main pve selling point maybe another quarter or a whole year to achieve balance on this class/profession.

Shadowflare.2759:

This is meant as a nerf.

Nope, its a buff. Cleric eles are afraid being get condi burst, coz they are dead when they pull out their big heals and leave water attunement. can’t blame them if Anet listen to them whiners.

Browrain.7346:

The funniest part is that OP thinks his math is correct.

Haha, i would like to see more numbers also.

Should be remain as it is. Perhaps people need to stop doing 1v1 against DS ele and try to rotate/lure where your melee friend is. After all, a well timed condi burst is much more rewarding.

Don’t do it Anet, just because all this people doesn’t knew how skillful it is calculating and being aware on those passive while reacting passively against their passive. Remember that some of us play Thief; you do not like more whining.

I rather play the game in coordination and addition of precision and a little bit of timing with other individual. teamplay Arena.net teamplay.

SlayerSixx.5763:

I’m not against backstab getting a raw boost in damage

Yea, those minor trait called Lead Attacks (Ferocious Strike and Exposed Weakness) serve absolutely nothing interms of damage modifier.

Give thief the damage they should be doing, but rewarding mindless spam just hurts.

I don’t mind the Thief being Initiative dependent,oh wait.

Zodryn.4216:

not to mention other distortion

Be very careful stop giving them the idea of BV as an Elite skill will hit through Evasion when Traited. course some of you will not like it, as i do.

I am quite dissatisfied about the decision they made on this one, cos Anet balance team has lack intellectual capabilities around thief and never expect the day shall come that Thief would have a working Elite skill yet nothing wrong on BV to begin with. Buff? really? because some of the few doesn’t have the skill.

And if truth be told, we don’t even need an Elite spec to compete with. stop dumbing down your own masterpiece Anet.

Warhawk.7095:

BV giving unblockable is finally a chance to tear into these bunkers.

Lol, balance team and their lack of intellectual capabilities. they think buffing an Elite skill will solve the problem yet there is nothing wrong to begin with. game is becoming dumbed down and non player skill involved.

Pathetic

sinject.4607:

Thief
first of all, buffing Acrobatics at this point is nothing more than throwing a bone to f2p players.

If i were them; iam not going to touch Acrobatics and leave the way it is. if they do, One of the Thief weapon sets will dominate the foodchain.
Again, if some of the Thief are having difficulties playing the Core, perhaps HoT will suit them the most. equip DD become braindead and kill your own build diversity more profit ArenaNet.

Josh Davis.6015:

I’ve thought through the implications of removing cele from PvP and what would happen to elementalist quite a bit, actually. It’s pretty risky .

LOL

I think elementalist would need a new 4 stat combo to be viable at roughly the same level (maybe something like 1050pow/1050condi/560vit/560healing).

Ooh nice, a good combination with Stone Heart

Ehecatl.9172:

Chapell.1346:

Infiltration as secondary objective. I liked it

There is no sneaking in. No deception. No strategy needed to bring down the lord solo.

Player skill issue.

Have you tried playing Mesmer? rumors says Powerlocked can interrupt evasion when traited and have a chance turning him into a Moa.

poor Thief.

My own Character, he can do multi-path objectives mostly done in coordination with others.

Ehecatl.9172:

once the gate is down a lone enemy player can slip in

Infiltration as secondary objective. I liked it

Terrorsquad.4802:

Chapell.1346:

If thief can win fairly on a 1v1 scenario; then I am afraid to say that, it needs to be look at and must toned it down. Teamplay while maintaining individuality ArenaNet, remember?

All specializations need to be toned down. All of them are better than any vanilla build.

Can’t believe i just responded into a DareDevil thread. seems a miscommunication on my side, apologies.

If thief can win fairly on a 1v1 scenario; then I am afraid to say that, it needs to be look at and must toned it down. Teamplay while maintaining individuality ArenaNet, remember?

Agemnon.4608:

Even if you nerf mesmer and revenant to reasonable levels they’ll still be useful due to the core nature of their mechanics.

There is only one solution in this kind of problem. and lets face it Conquest is not balanced around 5v5.

Agemnon.4608:

Classes like warrior or thief on the other hand depend on bigger numbers to be useful.

Make 5v5 as a Practicing ground and Bring back 8v8 as their competitive point of view and start playing GuildWars in GuildWars2.

Haha ravaging, better fix your player mentality ArenaNet. #solomid

Orpheal.8263:

boon stealing.

Sadly, thief must need to do some damage first before stealing therefore stealth stealing is irrelevant without revealing your self.

Buffing and nerfing Thief on its current state is crucial, i doubt we’re getting more buff aside other new Elites. as far as Might stacking goes, let alone other class profession do so though i am all for boon sharing mostly done in coordination.

Again, we do not need more of those damage percentile aslong as some of those can get through runes and sigils, besides stabbing someone behind while maintaining positioning is much more skill rewarding cos of 10% damage boost, didn’t we. must learn from the past or more ThiefcrycryOP (Elite spec included) it is not Thief, other class profession must need to be look at.

Although i am all for innovation and positive role

Well, this is what we get when someone didn’t do their homework. might aswell wait for the dev confirmation or perhaps wiki will gonna take the credit again. who knows.

babazhook.6805:

Klypto.1703:

My biggest gripe is how most builds that compete in end game have to have trickery and daredevil or either you are gimping yourself if you leave either of these out the way that daredevil works. The main thing I have a gripe with though is the daredevil has no traits that have any synergy with shadow arts or stealth. All the while you have classes like druid/ranger and mesmer/chronomancer and even DH’s with using trapper runes big changes with HoT for stealth but the main class here that didn’t get a smidgeon of stealth synergy was the thief/daredevil.

I know they kinda wanted to go out of the box on what these new classes or specializations can do. Although I think issues like the shadow arts and stealth should be addressed in the near future or either new elite specialization maybe like an assassin type thing that is based in the near future.

Then again if I am wrong please show me a shadow arts based idea that can benefit with daredevil where I am not forced to also use trickery.

Staff Build.

Use DA/SA/DD , trappers runes with trappers respite and tarp mastery. trait hidden thief/se/CIS.

You will get plenty of stealth for hook strike which can be followed up with an immediate attack. Impact sigil on staff used in conjunction with the Shadow trap and you get a knockdown and 15 stacks of might with 10 percent bonus from the sigil. It hits hard whether you follow up with vault or fist flurry after triggering basi. if you got staff mastery that another 10 percent damage. Executioner traited and there another possible 20 plus the 10 percent from exposed weakness. Slap on 7 percent havoc mastery.

Some decent modifiers right there, i ignored might stacking coz they serve absolutely nothing. and forgot some runes and sigils has it. kidding aside, DD is the only way to go in this current Thief state.

Has anyone seen my Damage Multiplier? i can’t seem to find my own.

Stealth Shroud? I love the idea and in addition, perhaps bringing back the long forgotten minor trait called Hidden Assassin to compensate Shadow Art.
Yep, my abacus is broken.

Quick Pockets + Fast Hands combine on thief? Goodluck

Some of you still doesn’t learn how to make an elite, first you must shave the said Traitline lets say DeadlyArt and then demand.

Astral form with new set of astral weapon skill plus 10stack vulnerability tools which can also reveal hidden opponent, some 10sec Timespacewarp Elite with some improvised backstab armor piercing while stealth please. while the numbers and damage is always negotiable to prevent frustration.

Why do people so obsessed on that wing, it serves absolutely nothing, unless they introduce gliding in Spvp. people always rush things, charged blindly forward and get surprised.

As i don’t have the time to farm my glorious legendary journey, cos i believe i has the skill without showing those precious gem aside my name plate. i think, i’ll wait when they introduced my long awaited Elite-Wing in gemstore (more variety and lemme dye them pls). oh and i don’t mind them Gift of Gemstore being timed gated on every season before i can combined one, make it 30minutes availability on a said day and time for more income.

Come one people, we’ve seen this coming. them skyham farmers converted into ranked pip farmers now. well played ArenaNet wp.

ReaperJr.5967:

Chaith.8256:

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practice.

Couldn’t say any better. perhaps people need to learn where is the right button to do so, and leave unranked and ranked to those who seek infamy for greater good and less toxicity against the system of course.

Please remove the Trebs it serve nothing in terms of defense and offense

infantrydiv.1620:

Opc.4718:

Just turn off map chat or team chat and you won’t see any of it.

TBH, right now that’s the only way to communicate to your team, sometimes important info like “I have two enemy players coming to me on home”

I think that they should implement a simple hotkey message system with commands like:

“Watch the node” “1,2,3,4,5 incoming” “Help!” “Disengage/Retreat!”

commands like this could just make the game better as a whole, and allow for smoother communication in combat

Precisely, why turn off? it does not make any sense. they gave you 2mins to discuss some possible strategy why not take the initiative to do so. right?

I play soloque, giving your ally a precise number of incoming opponent is really really informative interms of defense. sometimes i just ping the mini map and draw a line where the enemy will go (Scouting) or ping a Node and draw some Roman Numeral to indicate the numbers near the said node.

You don’t have to go anywhere either blogs or game guides that ask you for donations Game is so complex they just trying to make it difficult for the sake of you know, Money.

As far as i recall, your matchmaking depends on how you perform in your previous match (personal score included) and so on and so forth.

and if i am not mistaken (red post clarification if need be) for all this pips and pops, game is team-based loosing a pip means you as a TEAM did not perform well (see TeamScore) at the end of the match cos thats the only one matters. rumors says you need to attain 300 points to not loose a single pip of course the greater the number the better. (Unless the system has change) ^^

Nova Stiker.8396:

Chapell.1346:

Chaith.8256:

The answer to your scenario totally depends on what mechanic is giving you resistance. It has nothing to do with Resistance itself.

FYI, the moment you get resistance, condition ticks happening while you have it are instantly negated, IE: In your scenario, any burning ticks that fall in that short window of resistance, their effects will simply be skipped.

So yes, if you get resistance during an immobilize or fear, you regain control and or movement, even while afflicted by the conditions.

Nova Stiker.8396:

resistance is only given by a player skill

Getting schooled? a disappointment.

Okay? Who are you, what’s your problem and why do you speak in broken English?

I apologize if my language is offensive, English is not my common tongue. who am i, is non of your concern.

Chaith.8256:

The answer to your scenario totally depends on what mechanic is giving you resistance. It has nothing to do with Resistance itself.

FYI, the moment you get resistance, condition ticks happening while you have it are instantly negated, IE: In your scenario, any burning ticks that fall in that short window of resistance, their effects will simply be skipped.

So yes, if you get resistance during an immobilize or fear, you regain control and or movement, even while afflicted by the conditions.

Nova Stiker.8396:

resistance is only given by a player skill

Getting schooled? a disappointment.

extremely difficult to accurately test.

Why don’t you buy HoT play Revenant and become elite? clearly, you stand no chance against the World champ.

Nova Stiker.8396:

to calculate and control.

You knew i play Thief, those things are matters.

Nova Stiker.8396:

Evan Lesh.3295:

Checked the code, it appears to be effectively random.

Hold on, so what you are saying is if X team gets 10 stacks of bleeding, 5 stacks of burning and 4 stacks of poison and team Y applies 1 stack of bleeding, if his health reaches 0 by condition ticks it will be a 50/50 chance?!!

Eeeespuuurts -_-

You can’t blame someone who can see all the condition stacked/floaters in his screen.

There is an easy fix, when he reaches 1 health he gains 1 second of resistance.

People want Science and you gave them an easy Mathematics, im out.

If you play the number game, its all or nothing.

Serious Thought.5394:

Chapell.1346:

incisorr.9502:

are you kittening kittenting me? if you;’re d/p or s/d

thief is currently so kittening overpowered and braindead and easy mode kitten

Agree.

He personifies genius. Thief op and braindead and easy mode. Must be true.

Unless proven otherwise? or maybe just maybe s/he knew the Thief class itself from tip to toe, dont you think? Anywho if i found having difficulties playing the core i’ll buy HoT and you know, become “Elite”

incisorr.9502:

are you kittening kittenting me? if you;’re d/p or s/d

thief is currently so kittening overpowered and braindead and easy mode kitten

Agree.

You should add that hidden Thief buff, getting 3sec Fury uptime while attacking. or am i the only one?

Haha op is jelly? why not show them who’s the master of Longbows.

See? thief is fine and non of you listened.

Bring the next elite spec called Dragon Slayer. clearly Dragon Hunter is just a baby, so why not the one who’s already slain a dragon before.

Why locked? i love match manipulations. i mean its challenging.

Intended, game is too fast-paced we needed traps to counter Mobility. as for DH, lets say team fight scenario and allies crushing their balls against opponents DH use judges and poop all insta cast traps BAM! ggwp.

Learning from each other.

Any news on this one? comeon, i’m not gonna buy HoT without all this UI improvement on Thief. hell, i even buy all this Fluff individually in gemstore rather than the expansion itself that offer improvise traits we had before.

A clever idea, but no thanks. i rather have Red smoke around my Screen (sides) like Spider-sense for 3 to 4sec when Revealed debuff (no red smoke when not) so that i’ll know when to enter Stealth again.

Slowmelt.8547:

Honestly, I’d rather see the different traits get their own fluff.

Meh who cares on Thief UI improvement anyway. all they care is buff and nerfs.

Slowmelt.8547:

I mean, my Thief has a really buffed up Steal with a heap of secondary effects. It damages, buffs me, heals me, poisons the target… I think it also causes Weakness or something.

All i want is the Shadowy Aura on my Initiative Bar, i mean when i go Stealth i get my Shadowy aura because you know i get Faster Regeneration, or perhaps Shadowy Aura as baseline as you stated and when i hit someone with Cloaked in Shadow shadowy aura disappeared cos of Blind.

Slowmelt.8547:

…Is that an attempt to trick Anet into caring about Thieves?

Sharing is caring.

Slowmelt.8547:

Chapell.1346:

Baseline is neat, although effects per Grandmaster traitline could be more nasty on Thief core. To add something up: Hidden Killer put some tiny red lightning while in stealth outside or inside the shadowy part.

So much more to add, if only the thief community will help

visual alterations to Shadowsteps

I like this idea, you sir is gold. Maybe some improvise Lightning flash animation/sound effect to spice something up.

Welp, I think some of us misunderstood the purpose of this. I would buy all this fancy UI on gemstore at reasonable price if need be, you kno just to make my Thief more appealing to play on.

https://wiki.guildwars2.com/wiki/Potent_Superior_Sharpening_Stone