Guild Wars 2

I am all for more visual counter. Leaving a footprints behind while stealth sounds nice, can be located easily while maintaining pressure in fights. I bet mesmers and engineers will also like it.

Baseline is neat, although effects per Grandmaster traitline could be more nasty on Thief core. To add something up: Hidden Killer put some tiny red lightning while in stealth outside or inside the shadowy part.

So much more to add, if only the thief community will help

Shinjiko.1352:

a shadowy effect.

Like, when you go Stealth and equipped Shadow Rejuv. you gain shadowy effect considering the fact that you also regain Initiative faster while in stealth? Hands down, im on it.

As far as i recall game is balanced, Korean balance team always surprised me.

Which one? The one who play the game behind or the one who doesn’t.

Some of you have no clue what hotjoin is meant for. soon enough you’ll understand, though I believe it has been started.

The problem with taunt is the Ranger therefore thread title must be change immediately.

https://wiki.guildwars2.com/wiki/Second_Shadow. A lil bit of tweaking, rename could be nasty.

So hows this newly improve map mechanic work? The one who control the Ship is the one who can bombard point? Didn’t play this map before cos I am too busy farming my glorious rank to achieved popularity in the previous Leaderboard. Any tips and advice?

Any other Balance Guru to make offhand dagger viable? Come on dont be shy, idea is like a cream good one always on top.

ArcanistSeven.8720:

i use D/D i cant really duel anyone i have to stalk someone or steal around corner to melt them in 2 seconds but as soon as they dont die i retreat

Guys look! See i told you. Please multiply

I do not know about them but my pvp experience in this game is fun and nasty. I play thief which fun to play with and the beauty of trait system in this game is awsome, you can choose which role you wanna play with the help of different weapon set, runes and sigils which is by far the best. Though you might see some bias against other class profession mostly in 1v1scene cos they think going mainstream is the key which i dislike and against with. Long story short game is becoming a Koreanmmorpg and they really like it cos of this 1v1 bias.

And sometimes you’ll see a lot of balance guru crying about this and that please ignore them they dont know what are they doing, as for ingame kindly ignore those savages you’ll encounter cos they lack values and manners.
Please play conquest.

Sagat.3285:

Chapell.1346:

As for Cloaked in Shadow; worth to be Grandmaster

You partially missed my post SA thief healing is trash without blind which d/p naturally has but since it seems you agree with CnD getting baseline blind it’s alright.

Dont you think you misunderstood the statement above? But hey who am i to balance the Thief around me, i dont mind if they change the dagger Offhand weapon skill mechanic to make all this crying thief or other multiclasser happy, as per usual we adapt.

Dont get me wrong,all i wanted is (us) to multiply not gonna lay down my weapon and Mesmer take all the Credit

Some of you crying because lack of sustain, they gave you an option to choose both Shadow Prot and S.rejuv so that you can heal like a healing signet while stacking Regeneration through stealth(I do not know if this one is intended or a bug,if some of you has the knowledge please do share inb4 exploit) if you people still having problem with Thief sustain, maybe its you not the class because thief is not meant and design to access all possible sustain other class profession has(again prove me wrong).

As for Cloaked in Shadow; worth to be Grandmaster a good option to those who preferred glass or the other way around. What am i saying is, as offhand dagger i should have option to access blind like offhand pistol have (blinding works perfect against a.i doing burst when timed properly and good combination using Tactical strike mainhand Sword stealth skill cos of daze and it takes skill to land CnD against player in spvp scene) this comes from a thief who played their game the way they want.

And stun break :p

If I Taunt you irl will you dodge physically? I kid, this one might help
https://wiki.guildwars2.com/wiki/Resistance

Technically speaking all they need is, some kind of a Do-ers. Hired someone? but they already has one, as someone claim all they need is to look at their data. Fine money is cool but gift is way more cooler.

As for TTK, as long its existence is based on Team coordination which include Timing (Cc), Animation Telegraph(to give opponent reaction time) and the most important part must be compose two or more to burst someone down either point defender or attacker, I can live with that.
Dont get me wrong, I am all for innovative pvp experience a year or two from now.

May the Trebuchet in Khylo and the Ion Cannon in Skyhammer enlightened you, as well as other Secondary objectives in every Spvp map.

T raw.4658:

Chapell.1346:

To those people comparing Thief role into Mesmer role, please educate yourself as a mesmer before posting some nuisance. Really? the best dueling class in the whole game with his multiple A.i’s, such gross much skill.

Oh and to those Thief getting pigeonholed into one weapon set, runes, and trait Line and crying because lack of sustain, clearly none of you play as one. as well to those having problem against, please do me favor start playing the game play Conquest not Dueling.

As response to the Thread title; My declaration of war will remain the same, Thief is fine in Conquest, rumors says Practice makes perfect.

you’ve earned it

Thank you and don’t you dare to denied me again when i started stating the viability of S/p also P/p because, you stand no chance.

And to those of you stating criticism, this thread is nothing w/o all of you guys.
Clearly player skill issue

No thanks, i roleplay.

To those people comparing Thief role into Mesmer role, please educate yourself as a mesmer before posting some nuisance. Really? the best dueling class in the whole game with his multiple A.i’s, such gross much skill.

Oh and to those Thief getting pigeonholed into one weapon set, runes, and trait Line and crying because lack of sustain, clearly none of you play as one. as well to those having problem against, please do me favor start playing the game play Conquest not Dueling.

As response to the Thread title; My declaration of war will remain the same, Thief is fine in Conquest, rumors says Practice makes perfect.

Imho, Thief is still fine in conquest and OP depends who play it. although i am all for nerfing the class profession more to the ground and sell the buff in the next expac release. #kaching$

and to those people saying D/p is the only viable build thief has. clearly you don’t play thief and didnt tried how high skill capped and rewarding P/d in terms of skillful play.

Edit: For more devastating Conditiondamage

I am by no means against this class profession, but looking how they put all the resource to have such beauty on his skill animation (looking at you Unrelenting Strike) is the moment you’ll realize that, he is more assassin-ish than Thief (lol) and the Glint e-spec such cluster magnificent. but hey it is their main selling point in pve land.

Lets face it, some of us are having difficulties against Malice (fact that it can be easily applied) while a lot of us are sluggish enough to read in Official gw2 wiki and that is why a lot of us (myself included) does not really know how Condition Damage scale as of now.

Perhaps the more total Armor i has should be a bit useful and deduct its damage? or if any of you has the knowledge, i’ll politely appreciate the help (Devs included, math is difficult).

Clearly which ever weapon set, amulets and runes being use, i would run away whenever i am at disadvantage. (tell me, why should i give them an easy 5points?) it would be cool if two or three of them chased me to put some disadvantage in other point area (who says thief doesn’t have Crowd Control in conquest?). Definitively, some of you are still in Stone-aged.

I do not think they are dumb enough to do so, but as the title says; looking forward to see the day.

I admit, reading all the statement you guys put in is amusing and some of you has a point though i do not play on the top of the top of the top of the food chain but it keeps me wondering which Region you people are playing that you guys still lacking knowledge in terms of Thieving in Conquest.

Oh and didn’t the pvp community driven tournament brief you on how to play your role in a teambased game? it seem they set their bars into low standard and all they care is the succesion of their own agenda.

Please stop being one sided, some of those who multiclass is still learning how to master their Deathshroud.

As for Thief, i believe it is working as intended. they already do the rework and gave it 40sec iCD which is fair(cos the old one has 3sec interval)and right now it can be shorten because Blinding Powder is labeled as Deception combined with Cloaked in Shadow plus the blast finisher and the triggering effect (if I am not mistaken) is always 6feet tall above your head much better than Decent of Shadow. About damage reduction, idk I hate maths all I understand is addition and not subtraction.

Terrorsquad.4802:

Chapell.1346:

depends on who play the thief itself.

More nerfs? It actually is in a dire need of buffs.
It’s already bullied into a corner, tyvm.

If you dont play/main a thief, please don’t call for nerfs without knowing how it works.

My apologies. it seems, i misread the most important part of the sentence i wrote. Yeah so much more to learn, since the game became play for free i just started using my thief.

You don’t even need an Elite Spec if you play spvp exclusively, but hey options.

It’s in good shape in terms of conquest, still. Although it needs more nerf depends on who play the thief itself. Tips? Play the Trait System and look for yourself how wonderful it is.

If truth be told, we don’t even need an Elite Specialization.

You never learned. they balancing the game to those who does not play their game.
Watch out when they did “Subject may change without prior notice” to Moonbase~

Oh look 1v1, the thing i do for living. been ages since ive done this kind of nuisance.

Reading all this stuff is like.. Look what they have done to Thief nowadays, please do ignore me.

Would love to see this one on D/d, back in the day were you can chain Stealth this one is legit. those were the days, reminiscing the past.

I am all for a positive role of the thief, as long as i can maintain pressure in teamfight. but i am a bit afraid about Distracting Dagger, it seems they stole a valuable utilities on Mesmer outhere. do they not learn from the tears they gatherd in the past?

I thought Mesmer can do a lot of things?

I do not know how they ship patches up but.

A -1 to d/d fire skills in ring of fire and drakes breath to me is where we should start.

It should be 1stack per pulse based on field Duration. but hey professionals are made they are not born.

Another thing is making mesmer unable to use there shatter skills when stone or knocked down would be awesome.

Looking forward to see the day, and i doubt they will recognize the differences.

Lastly buff the ranger just a bit. Pet or in base attacks.

Madness.

Did someone spoil the soup? I thought were still in development.

Dissapointed and too early for celebration.

TyPin.9860:

GrandHaven.1052:

Tao.1234:

Pretty much if a guy is doing dodge jump all the time which in combat is impossible to do it every single time.

So let’s say, you 1v1 someone and he’s using dodge jump often(have energy sigil+vigor) then he’s using a macro with 90% chance – there can be someone to do 5 in a row luckily, but doing 8~12 is pretty much impossible and repeating it in every combat.

Hence, anet should fix that dodge jump thing.

I have no idea what dodge jumping is?

A dodge jump is when your character jumps and dodges at the same time. There was some tiny benefit to it… but I forgot what it was.

However, simply observing someone dodge jumping all the time is no evidence at all. Even the mentioned percentages are simple assumptions. I dodge jump really often, cuz it looks cool on an Asura. And if I trained for it, I am sure I could dodge jump almost all the time, because it is not that hard. With how my keyboard works, I simply press dodge and jump at the same time and it results in a dodge jump. Doesn’t work on all keyboards though^^

That tiny benefit is matter, cos its a whole evade frame. imagine when that tiny benefit got abused, no need to draw a picture right?

style.6173:

Chapell.1346:

Maugetarr.6823:

Chapell.1346:

style.6173:

Chapell.1346:

If they having problem with Deathblossom and his capabilities of stacking Bleeding specially in Teamfights(spoon feed!), Not Entitled and need more Effort so lets resort to Playerskill issue.

You really don’t get it. POWER thieves have no interest in stacking BLEEDS. The weaponset is just average at both right now.

Oh yes I almost forget you, here let me Enlightened you. (SPOON FEED)

As I stated it works perfect in teamfight scenario which favor conquest, technically you must have a Condition user as an ally which will be the one who must execute the stacking first and you’ll going to help him stack more bleeds(that’s were Deathblossom come in, a followup skill), yes you are Power build but the damage mitigation will be on your Condition ally. Wuvwuv people call it Synergies, pvp people that smash button brainlessly and can defeat their opponents in 1v1 scenario called it Skill.
Pretty much I did played the wrong game.

Alternatively, you could use D/P, cover your condi-ally’s condition with blind and interrupt their condi cleanse with Pistol #4. You’d have better offense and better defense.

Fair enough, a good trade off against D/d and lets not forget there must be one training wheel for each class profession or else the ship will sink.

The closest we’ll come to you admitting that you are wrong. haha

Haha, I am all for sharing knowledge to those people who play pvp exclusively

Maugetarr.6823:

Chapell.1346:

style.6173:

Chapell.1346:

If they having problem with Deathblossom and his capabilities of stacking Bleeding specially in Teamfights(spoon feed!), Not Entitled and need more Effort so lets resort to Playerskill issue.

You really don’t get it. POWER thieves have no interest in stacking BLEEDS. The weaponset is just average at both right now.

Oh yes I almost forget you, here let me Enlightened you. (SPOON FEED)

As I stated it works perfect in teamfight scenario which favor conquest, technically you must have a Condition user as an ally which will be the one who must execute the stacking first and you’ll going to help him stack more bleeds(that’s were Deathblossom come in, a followup skill), yes you are Power build but the damage mitigation will be on your Condition ally. Wuvwuv people call it Synergies, pvp people that smash button brainlessly and can defeat their opponents in 1v1 scenario called it Skill.
Pretty much I did played the wrong game.

Alternatively, you could use D/P, cover your condi-ally’s condition with blind and interrupt their condi cleanse with Pistol #4. You’d have better offense and better defense.

Fair enough, a good trade off against D/d and lets not forget there must be one training wheel for each class profession or else the ship will sink.

Oh well, sounds like Close quarter Combat Panda to me. Pretty much thief. Lame.

style.6173:

Chapell.1346:

If they having problem with Deathblossom and his capabilities of stacking Bleeding specially in Teamfights(spoon feed!), Not Entitled and need more Effort so lets resort to Playerskill issue.

You really don’t get it. POWER thieves have no interest in stacking BLEEDS. The weaponset is just average at both right now.

Oh yes I almost forget you, here let me Enlightened you. (SPOON FEED)

As I stated it works perfect in teamfight scenario which favor conquest, technically you must have a Condition user as an ally which will be the one who must execute the stacking first and you’ll going to help him stack more bleeds(that’s were Deathblossom come in, a followup skill), yes you are Power build but the damage mitigation will be on your Condition ally. Wuvwuv people call it Synergies, pvp people that smash button brainlessly and can defeat their opponents in 1v1 scenario called it Skill.
Pretty much I did played the wrong game.

Maugetarr.6823:

Chapell.1346:

Maugetarr.6823:

Chapell.1346:

Maugetarr.6823:

Chapell.1346:

Maugetarr.6823:

As I stated, if you have these they come from your traits and utilities, not the D/D set. I listed what the other sets bring that D/D doesn’t.

I don’t think you’re Entitled enough to say such thing, stating all your previous post Sword/dagger Thief.

….as former D/D thief that switched sets due to the set’s inadequacies…. am I just not allowed to point out facts? What would entitlement have to do with anything I’ve said? I literally listed the mechanics available to S/D and D/P to which D/D does not have comparable access.

I don’t think D/d works the same as the other weapon set including S/p and P/d (did i play all the Thief weapon set in this game has to offer,wrong?), i am sure you’ll going to agree with that Sword/dagger Thief.

I honestly don’t understand the point you’re trying to make.

It is not my problem if you lack understanding, former D/d thief.

It actually is your problem. You could have the wisdom of the gods, but no one would know if you cannot convey it properly.

Nonsense.

D/D is mechanically inferior.

This is all i wanted to read. in which case, i will rest my case and accept Defeat in this Thread.

None of you are Entitled enough saying D/d Thief is Worthless in Conquest, none of you!.

Edit: wordings for more critical damage.

Maugetarr.6823:

Chapell.1346:

Maugetarr.6823:

Chapell.1346:

Maugetarr.6823:

As I stated, if you have these they come from your traits and utilities, not the D/D set. I listed what the other sets bring that D/D doesn’t.

I don’t think you’re Entitled enough to say such thing, stating all your previous post Sword/dagger Thief.

….as former D/D thief that switched sets due to the set’s inadequacies…. am I just not allowed to point out facts? What would entitlement have to do with anything I’ve said? I literally listed the mechanics available to S/D and D/P to which D/D does not have comparable access.

I don’t think D/d works the same as the other weapon set including S/p and P/d (did i play all the Thief weapon set in this game has to offer,wrong?), i am sure you’ll going to agree with that Sword/dagger Thief.

I honestly don’t understand the point you’re trying to make.

It is not my problem if you lack understanding, former D/d thief.

Wow i think i hit someone in the head.