edit: we did get nerfed. Reaper chill now procs stacks of bleed now instead of dealing dmg. We could use dash to cleanse chill and so avoid dmg, now we gotta eat it. GG
Revs got barely nerfed. As long as revs stay in their current state we have no chance regardless the buffs.
Still glad we didn’t get another nerf bomb. The small QoL like steal, withdraw, plasma are nice but won’t be game changer imo.
I never understood the hate for this map and spirit watch? Why? Aren’t you guys bored of the same old maps?? I really hope they introduce new ones this year.
Probably because you didn’t play those maps in ranked when canon was undodgeable, platforms would disappear fast not to mention the orb in spirit watch still heavily favors classes with blocks, leaps etc. You also probably don’t play classes that rely on ports – you get “no valid path” error on 90% of the terrain there: try to use shadowstep to break stun? NOPE. Try to use steal to interrupt enemy? NOPE.
I play on all classes and if I got punted off the edge on skyhammer I put it down to my bad positioning and lack of dodging; not the map.
However, if these changes mean skyhammer will become part of the regular rotation again, then I’m all for them.
where did i say anything about knockbacks?
dodges you say…. i spent all skyhammer games sitting in stealth and pulling players into holes – it is very boring and unenjoyable way to play, but it was effective – i do not miss it
I never understood the hate for this map and spirit watch? Why? Aren’t you guys bored of the same old maps?? I really hope they introduce new ones this year.
Probably because you didn’t play those maps in ranked when canon was undodgeable, platforms would disappear fast not to mention the orb in spirit watch still heavily favors classes with blocks, leaps etc. You also probably don’t play classes that rely on ports – you get “no valid path” error on 90% of the terrain there: try to use shadowstep to break stun? NOPE. Try to use steal to interrupt enemy? NOPE.
The pvp one can be made within 2 season and is relative easy to make if you are good at pvp. The fractal one is definitely more grindy and expensive, imo. But i pvp mainly so my opinion is biased.
Not true. Last season was really easy to grind because game always made sure you have 50% win rate. This season is different story. Not saying that leagues are not grind fest but definitely less so this time. I also would say that wast majority of players reside in ruby kek.
As far as “prestigious” goes: there is Pro league, guys. Only very few get there. Want to show off with your sword… fencing, go there.
Oh and btw, it is good there are so many players in legendary division other we would have 1 hour queues there. No, ty.
So, on one hand I’m pleased to see the buff to the lord.
On the other, this also sort of implies that the HoT power creep isn’t going away. Which I’m not pleased about. Sort of squashes the hope that they might still bring elite specs in line.
Some people did delete thieves when HoT came out. We even had thief funeral during HoT beta (many players came to it). You think Anet cared? Thing turned out as bad as we predicted. Season 1: thief is garbage. Season 2: hardly any better. This company doesn’t want this class but they can’t completely delete it.
if we delete enough thieves they will care!!!
You do realize the less thieves run around the more success it is for Anet? It means that former thief players bought HoT and rerolled revs.
I think season 2 was better than season 1. Balance is still crappy but way more enjoyable than last season – elites really need to be brought down to core spec level.
The leagues got improved as well but once again suffer from certain design flaws that were discussed countless times (no losing tiers causes new amber in ruby, matchmaking always putting losing and winning team against each other, no placement matches that would prevent low skill players to get farmed by veterans etc.)
I hope for season 3 that they will improve it and not turn it to the worse.
When you get closer to higher divisions, you are a fodder to them. I don’t want to sound like an jerk but if you want to be in higher divisions you gotta win games vs them. And yes you have to win unfair matches.
The season started almost 2 months ago. There was plenty of time to get to legend. I got to legend by playing flipping thief (playing core build till diamond) and it was over month ago. I am by no means amazing player either. So if you can’t make it to legend while playing strong meta classes/builds within 2 months then idk what to say about “deserving”.
You can blame matchmaking, rng and what not all you want, but enemy teams in my experience make just as many mistakes. If you can’t abuse them you won’t get far. It is safe to assume in soloq that teammates are mindless bots, you gotta play around it and not to rely on anyone. The difference between good and bad player is: bad player blames other, good player carries him/herself.
To the OP, you made it in 3 nights from Amber to Legen, sorry for being realistic, but you totally missed playing with the tougher players that are now in Legen (x2+). That’s why it’s easier to climb up to Legen now at the end of the season, which doesn’t mean you don’t deserve to be in Legen, you probably do, but evidently is easier now.
^^pretty much this
gl getting legend in 3 days begin of the season xD
Some people did delete thieves when HoT came out. We even had thief funeral during HoT beta (many players came to it). You think Anet cared? Thing turned out as bad as we predicted. Season 1: thief is garbage. Season 2: hardly any better. This company doesn’t want this class but they can’t completely delete it.
If you find yourself on a team with more than one Thief, please don’t tell us you’re going to sit in spawn if we don’t change. Please either disconnect or try to win, and at least wait until after you lose before you throw a tantrum. Some of us are actually on winning streaks… even when multiple Thieves have been our teams.
Politely requesting is quite fine. But threatening is quite immature.
Thank you! :-)
I agree with this. That attitude is quite disgusting and extremely arrogant. if there are too many thieves then why don’t they switch? Why should everyone else have to follow to their whims?
Why every thief should follow everyone’s whims? We play this game for fun and not for someone’s else pleasure. There is no rule in game that says we can’t play thieves if other players don’t want us to.
I got legend in both season purely playing thief (besides games for prof achieves), in fact in season 1 i played only core build w/o elite because i refuse to support this garbage we got for 50 bucks that Anet calls class balance. I have won plenty of games with double thief and even enemy team said we (thieves) did good.
People who complain about having thief on team are the same people who got thief in such crappy state on first place by QQing 24/7 to Anet of how OP thieves are. EAT WHAT YOU ASKED FOR.
Oh man i feel so bad for that thief facing so many revs.
facing revs is 1000x better than facing multiple thieves imo. Couse fxck stealth camping thats why.
you can stealth vs multiple thieves, you can kill multiple thieves
revs are way harder to kill, way more idiot proof spells that you have to dodge, not to mention reveal on 20 sec cd… times 4? eeewwww
Most be really funny watching a Rev team traveling in packs so tight around the map to notice that.
Rev #1: Guys right after I activate my Gaze of Darkness Rev #2 must activate his/hers and so on, but only vs this very thief. We most annoy him hard enough to the point of making him go rant in the forums.
Grinding HOPE for my thief made me almost uninstall this game. The weapon is great replacement for Quip (dat Star Wars flair). Not sure i could go through the same struggle again for SB – it better be amazing. Also, as said above: anything is better than annoying unicorns.
scrappers need nerfs across the boards, not just boons
it already takes 2 people to take one scrapper down, i don’t want to know how much it would take to kill scrapper if other classes get nerfed
generally all elites (yes daredevil and berserker including) need to be nerfed to core spec level
Can’t really do much if they have your IP already. Can ask your ISP to change it.
That being said i don’t think private users really have static IP for that matter. Only companies and ppl who want/can afford it do. Generally as private user you get new IP every 24 hours.
And as said before, Skype atm is main culprit.
He did start off with a speedo but then quickly realized that no one with any fashion sense would wear speedos in a jungle, so he put on suitable attire for the occasion.
Frankly, I’m shocked that you would even suggest that he should wear clothing so inappropriate for a exilerating jaunt in a jungle. As a noble of Queen Jenna’s court and a leader of the fashion conscious elite, of course he will be wearing what is right for every situation he finds himself in.
Not sure if serious. It has been like this since launch and is counter to stealth which needs to exist and also why i don’t understand why the hell Anet had to add even more counters.
Worst part of playing a profession that’s not ‘meta’ is how you always end up with at least 1 person on your team who will spend the entire game watching every step you take just waiting to blame you for something.
I made legendary primarily as Thief and after hitting that, I played around with Ele for a while. I played terribly with ele, but I never had anyone call me out on any mistake I made while playing ele.
Meanwhile, I got at least some criticism on any random rotation I made on most games I played as thief, even when I ended up making game winning plays that turned the tides on score.
LOL so much this. I can play like crap on my other characters, got called out maybe once in hundreds of matches. On thief, oh noes i do something my team doesn’t think i should or they are simply losing and need a scapegoat. So much kitten moaning it is painful to watch.
I even had case where enemy team said i was good thief while my own team was harassing me, AFTER we won lol.
Oh look, a skill dealing damage that fast at technically point blank! Who would have thought.
Is this guy serious? Can i /faceplam ?
To be fair, he did eat those Precision Strikes at point blank. If he was attacked with it from out of melee range, there is plenty of time to avoid it.
Avoiding it wasn’t the point lol
Let me guess, the “OP” damage that is completely trash 1vX is?
Oh man, i lost hope in humanity. No, the point was that it is impossible to interrupt. Event if you by some sheer luck manage to interrupt rev the spell is still executed.
Given all the other lovely features of this spell (short CD, extremely high dmg, auto targeting, ignores ranged limit and LOS etc.) it is not OK. Even backstab that has way higher requirements, hits for way less and doesn’t have all those lovely features is actually interuptable.
Lets just say I did not choose a class and committed 2k hours time to it, just to be able to run around the map and ‘+1’ the fights of others. Especially not with a class that, by concept, is commited to 1v1 scenarios.
When did you start playing? I started playing pvp in April 2014, and even then, I was told by experienced thieves that our role was not dueling, but +1 and decap points. If you don’t like that role, why don’t you pick one of the six/seven other professions that work exactly like you want the thief to be?
That can’t be true. Until celestial became a thing thieves were supposed to go far and win 1v1 fights. This is what i was told by my teams back then. This was my job and i have done it plenty of times. There was time thieves could win 1v1 if they played well. There was time thieves were good at 1v1. Now thief can’t win 1v1 most of the time even if they play well due to powercreep, nerfs for 3 years straight, passives etc. Devs butchered the class thanks to QQs from people that don’t know how to deal with stealth and thanks to revs.
If you don’t think revenant is overpowered you have garbage MMR and have never seen a good rev. Simple as that.
Nothing that’s only strong in capable hands , can be considered OP. On the contrary something can be truly considered broken when anybody can reroll and become efficient with it within one day and that’s something I can gladly say it’s what happens now with : reaper-dragon hunters – chronocondi.
Badly played revs with poor reaction time, will just get killed almost instantly during teamfight, on the contrary everybody can press F1 and AA with a reaper or F5-f10(moa) on a chronocondi carried by that trait that re-supply illusions
It is actually not that hard to do decent on rev. Just takes couple days of practice really.
Dude you can make your UI smaller via game options.
Also if you think this is bad, you haven’t seen anything. Whole season 1 (and more rarely but still the case in season 2) i was told to uninstall, kill myself, called names and what not just for playing thief regardless whether we won or lost. You think customer support did anything? Nope. I kept qing into same ppl every day.
On the other hand, i got legend in both seasons on thief within few weeks so suck it haters :P
People who complain about revenant are the same people who complained about warrior in the past (and look where they are now). Yet im pretty sure they would get rekt 1v1 by warrior on their cutter cookie meta build.
How about you don’t generalize. I never complained about warriors besides some buggy cheesy stuff that got fixed anyway. I have beaten countless warriors in 1v1. I do complain about revs and have very good reasons to do so. The class is overtuned for the sake of sales. The class took jobs from thieves/wars/guards. The devs lied us on the stream when they talked about thief balance because when they made rev they threw all that balancing logic out of the window and simply dumped everything they could think of into 1 class and now revs are walking middle finger to those classes.
Legend is flooded with revs, pro league would be flooded with revs (and it was before changes) if there was no class stacking rule. Class is fine… yeaah rrright. Even people that main revs in pro league say they are too strong.
Was dps warrior ever meta? Outside of bullrush combo? I remember soldier hambow, cele junk shoutbow.. but zerker war? Hmm.. not at all. If anything they took over thief spot.
Revs are guard/war/thief in one hence why there is no reason to bring any of them if you have rev.
Oh look, a skill dealing damage that fast at technically point blank! Who would have thought.
Is this guy serious? Can i /faceplam ?
To be fair, he did eat those Precision Strikes at point blank. If he was attacked with it from out of melee range, there is plenty of time to avoid it.
Depends on division. In lower divisions it might be worth try to steal enemy animal since low ranked people tend to do it a lot.
In higher divisions i either just grab home (unless i know enemies and know they like to rush our home) or go mid, land few attacks, stealth up and go decap far.
My guess is it’s the fault of the new diamond skin, on every occassion I had an immobilise (whether it was revenant or ranger roots) and it got cleansed off, but I could not move afterwards. Guess that’s how you remove eles from meta.
The immob bug been there since launch pretty much. Has nothing to do with eles in particular, it affects all classes.
