Guild Wars 2

arKRazor.8654:

Zephyrus.9680:

Piercing trait + projectile reflection.

I believe he has the right of it.

he would if there was something behind me that did reflect. but it was just me.

cmon anybody, someone has to know.

Elestian.6134:

Dagraan.2854:

so what your telling me is they don’t know and anybody can freely download a zoom hack without any repercussions, cool.

FoV != zoom hack

Many games include the ability to change the FoV as a setting. As eithinan described, you get the same effect by simply changing the size of your GW2 window or by running in a different resolution. There’s nothing being exploited. As I said, it’s just a part of how games are rendered.

the FoV changer will not allow you to see into the lords room at hills keep, while on an ac, it will not allow you to shoot inside of the lords room from outside the wall without the ability to see through the gate hole.
shooting on top of walls is a FoV changer, shooting inside towers and keeps from the outside is not a FoV changer.

not creepy at all…

Elestian.6134:

Dagraan.2854:

so can you tell me how does A-net know that you have multiple monitors?

/facepalm

FoV is client side. “They” don’t need to “know,” it’s just how the game renders everything.

so what your telling me is they don’t know and anybody can freely download a zoom hack without any repercussions, cool.

mercury ranique.2170:

It’s not a chain fear. Fear is not stackable. What happens is that he fears everyone during several seconds. If you remove the condition in those first seconds it gets re-applied. Just learn when you can remove it without getting it re-applied and your issue is solved. No need to change the boss, when it is a matter off understanding the mechanics.

thats tequatl and the worm that does that, for telling people to understand the fight you don’t seem to understand it at all.
jormag will chain fear you, its not the long roar where you need stability he’ll do his fear roar for one attack, next is the same fear roar, and for the third time he’ll fear roar you.
chaining fears, theres a difference between chaining something and stackable permanent things.

usually he only does it 3 times but its annoying as hell since it doesn’t really have a tell-tell sign that you can see and use your invuln fire shield in time.

eithinan.9841:

Almost every example of this is a wider Field of View from multiple monitors or adjusting the height of the window. It isn’t an exploit because it is the answer Anet has provided for people who play with multiple monitors.

so can you tell me how does A-net know that you have multiple monitors?

how does 1 single warrior get 2 kill shot hits, i literally when from full hp to insta downed without warning.

was he hacking? because honestly in that night i saw way to many people from that server and the other just blatantly hacking, from instant self resses, to warriors teleporting while downed multiple times, to trebs have increased range and aoe size.

are you serious? again another thief complaining on the forums wanting eles to be nerfed even more since they have to blow an elite to get away from you and mist form into a portal when you do catch up and kill them.

the only bug meteor shower has is that it has no aoe circle to enemy players.
literally all this thread is, is nerf ele so much so that the class is even more useless than rangers.

Cynz.9437:

cnd is melee….you kind of have to stand still and do nothing for it to land so well….

because mobs/npcs use leap skills and preemptive dodges to make sure a thief can’t land a CnD and won’t go right back to their original spot when he re enters stealth.

Doyen.7063:

We dont play the style in wvw gargamell, but a staffie posting support for us /d users goes along way.

+1

RTL needs its 20sec cd with no caveat.

RTL needs its 15 sec cd back not 20, warriors go farther with less CD and they can cancel it.

why did you just leave 2 wooden chests just sitting there?

the gas mask looks great on male charrs, looks like it was designed for charrs first then remodeled for every other race.

Zero Day.2594:

Dagraan.2854:

they’re not nerfing stealth they’re nerfing the perma stealth exploit, so 1 person can’t do it.

I didn’t know it was an “exploit” … I thought, given, by the Anet dev’s, thieves found a way by using what’s given to chain stealth in a fashion that if done correctly using the given skills/traits makes it seem like thieves have permanent stealth, when really they don’t they’re just properly re-applying stealth before it runs out (and those that don’t know this, will call it perma-stealth, and people will over look it and call it so). As far as i can see, thieves just figured out a way to do something within the given limits and aren’t exceeding it (stealth runs out… but they reapply it before it does… it’s not like they apply it once and it doesnt ever run out). It’s not “perma”, and it’s really not an “exploit” – people are just mad that this way was found and are calling it harsh names. it’s like saying the 4 move checkmate in chess is a perma-win exploit.

An exploit could be something like…. say it was possible to make your name so long that on creation a part of it would get cut off because it’s too long and the overflown (referencing buffer overflow exploits here) information would effect the stats of a character… making it possible to make a really long name, such that at lvl 1 you start off with 999999 power. That… would be an exploit. As the intent was to make a name, turned into getting a kitten ton of power.

If it is an exploit, please, please, please, pretty please…. ban everyone that ever did it.
:D dont forget to nerf thieves more (now that the cat’s out of the bag, with the crafting speed increase when stealthed)

Let me make something up too,
IF a warrior use auto-attacks with a sword, such that bleeding never runs out on it’s target…. we shall call it :
PERMA-BLEED EXPLOIT

As for guards… if guards use Symbol of Swiftness one after eachother, such that they never run out of speed… we shall call it:
PERMA-SWIFTNESS EXPLOIT

Spread the word, warriors are running perma-bleed exploit builds and guards are doing perma-swiftness exploits in WvW.

the stupid in this one is strong.

here’s a thing if warriors and guardians are soooooo OP and you have 4 more character slots why don’t you just make a warrior and guardian and have all 3 OP professions?

and the d/p even the p/sb perma stealth exploit could be easily done, you could continually stay in stealth without using a single utility.
if someone managed to somehow stun you while you where perma stealthed all you had to do is pop a utility and you immediately defeated they’re try at stopping you.

iv’e done it before and kept it up easily ( i have a thief) the d/p perma stealth wasn’t like the CnD chain stealthing, you didn’t have to leave stealth.
and you know what a more powerful survival tool than 3 seconds invincibility? you guessed it unbreakable stealth, if the enemy can’t see you then they can’t hit you.
and even if they do start swinging their melee weapon around like an idiot trying to hit you all you gotta do is dodge. ( hard to do i know right!)

but i don’t get why people are complaining about the perma stealth fix anyways, only bad players used it.

oh and 5 guardians can’t get perma swiftness from those symbols of swiftness since they don’t stack swiftness but instead only give 1 second when you already have it.
and bleeds can be transfered, cured, or straight up ignored.

Gwalchgwn.1659:

^They are nerfing the stealth mechanic, infusion of shadows only triggers when ENTERING stealth. See the red-tag post on this forum from Jon. So argument invalid…

they’re not nerfing stealth they’re nerfing the perma stealth exploit, so 1 person can’t do it.
if you think by them nerfing the perma stealth and fixing the trait, is nerfing the stealth mechanic itself then you have got to the be worst thief here.
it just means you can’t chain stealth without using one of your precious utilities, and you’ll have to use some skill if you wanna hide from a zerg.

you still have the ability to chain CnD.
really this patch isn’t nerfing thieves its just making them less annoying to everybody.

Mordecai.6318:

Dagraan.2854:

ryan.6217:

Dagraan.2854:

Feel free to get back to me in any way you know how.

you know iv’e never seen a video of a naked ele, or engie, or warrior killing people with ease. the naked videos isn’t just hey look at me i’m so pro i can beat baddies, its hey look at me i can abuse a cheap class against baddies.
with a thief its no risk since he can just perma stealth away if he’s fighting a decent player.

people can make those videos of 5v1 because they have no risk at all, if those 5 people are of equal skill the thief can just shadow step away stealth, and if he has a shortbow move 1800+ range in 2 seconds something that no other class can do.

if a warrior tries that and theres 5 equal skilled players then he’s either gonna have to run the speed build which is useless in wvw or be SoL.

and i have the audacity to say a theif standing in his pistol 5 and insta winning against warriors? oh what you don’t know how to use the pistol 5 for something other than perma stealth?

a warriors attacks aren’t long enough range to hit some thief standing in the middle of a blind field, unless he has a longbow and even then the thief can just go hide till his health comes back or just shadow shot to the warrior, not even mentioning the steal skill.
and most hammer warriors aren’t gonna carry some ranged weapon so their either gonna be all melee for best effectiveness in zergs or some random roaming build with a ranged weapon.
and the thief perma stealthing a mesmer in a keep was about the perma stealth with the pistol 5 and shortbow, without using even 1 utility. which is not a class mechanic.
not to mention your elite skill which is honestly one of the only elite skills that can be classified as “elite” gives stability, and hits everything spamming cripples, bleeds, and reflects.
you ever wonder why an ele can’t just warp in the middle of a zerg and tornado to get away or do mass amounts of aoe?

the thief killing everything in spawn is a glitch, but how is bugging out and disabling that teams merchant for that map not OP?
and no its not about a thief picking off stragglers that are falling off of a zerg its about a thief running into the middle of a zerg and killing people and getting away its not the ability to do a lot of damage its their ability to get away without a scratch because stealth has no real counters.

a warrior maybe be anets golden child, but hes not god in wvw if he wants to do CC and lots of damage he has to give up mobility, if he wants to run as fast as thieves he has to give up damage.

does a thief have to do that? no the thief can have both and always and easily maintain ultimate control.
the thief class is equally as golden as warriors.

you clearly haven’t played a thief.

i have all 8 classes i get affected by every nerf and buff, if anything i should be crying the most but i don’t because i get over it, or play something else. sometimes both.
you clearly don’t play a thief if you think they aren’t A-nets golden child, when they still refuse to fix the broken stealth mechanic with no counters. and no stealth traps aren’t counters their free kill me signs.

the chambers can drop the keys from the end chest. from what iv’e seen the drop rates on the chambers are better than the zerg fest events.

ryan.6217:

Dagraan.2854:

Feel free to get back to me in any way you know how.

you know iv’e never seen a video of a naked ele, or engie, or warrior killing people with ease. the naked videos isn’t just hey look at me i’m so pro i can beat baddies, its hey look at me i can abuse a cheap class against baddies.
with a thief its no risk since he can just perma stealth away if he’s fighting a decent player.

people can make those videos of 5v1 because they have no risk at all, if those 5 people are of equal skill the thief can just shadow step away stealth, and if he has a shortbow move 1800+ range in 2 seconds something that no other class can do.

if a warrior tries that and theres 5 equal skilled players then he’s either gonna have to run the speed build which is useless in wvw or be SoL.

and i have the audacity to say a theif standing in his pistol 5 and insta winning against warriors? oh what you don’t know how to use the pistol 5 for something other than perma stealth?

a warriors attacks aren’t long enough range to hit some thief standing in the middle of a blind field, unless he has a longbow and even then the thief can just go hide till his health comes back or just shadow shot to the warrior, not even mentioning the steal skill.
and most hammer warriors aren’t gonna carry some ranged weapon so their either gonna be all melee for best effectiveness in zergs or some random roaming build with a ranged weapon.
and the thief perma stealthing a mesmer in a keep was about the perma stealth with the pistol 5 and shortbow, without using even 1 utility. which is not a class mechanic.
not to mention your elite skill which is honestly one of the only elite skills that can be classified as “elite” gives stability, and hits everything spamming cripples, bleeds, and reflects.
you ever wonder why an ele can’t just warp in the middle of a zerg and tornado to get away or do mass amounts of aoe?

the thief killing everything in spawn is a glitch, but how is bugging out and disabling that teams merchant for that map not OP?
and no its not about a thief picking off stragglers that are falling off of a zerg its about a thief running into the middle of a zerg and killing people and getting away its not the ability to do a lot of damage its their ability to get away without a scratch because stealth has no real counters.

a warrior maybe be anets golden child, but hes not god in wvw if he wants to do CC and lots of damage he has to give up mobility, if he wants to run as fast as thieves he has to give up damage.

does a thief have to do that? no the thief can have both and always and easily maintain ultimate control.
the thief class is equally as golden as warriors.

you can get keys from doing those chambers. their pretty easy to just kill a bunch of trash mobs and free 3 prisoners

SoLeciTO.3490:

Dagraan.2854:

SoLeciTO.3490:

Dagraan.2854:

so the vid of a thief harrassing a 30+ man zerg while killing and stomping people in the middle of the zerg and getting away easily is missing here, the video of a thief running around in the enemys spawn killing the merchants so they no longer work isn’t here.

the video of a thief perma stealthing mesmers in a keep or garri isn’t here.
the video of a naked thief killing people isn’t here.
the video of a thief spamming 2 and winning isn’t here.
the video of a thief not even trying in a 5v1 isn’t here.

the video of a necro tanking 4 people and 20 seconds of immobilize with just plague and death shroud isn’t here.

please tell me how a hammer warrior in pvt is OP? when you can easily counter him with stability.
or better yet, pistol 5 and stand there pressing 1 insta win against hammer warriors.

The difference is that in those videos the thief is a really good player no clicking skills and timing perfectly with no mistakes against low lvl bad players.

Show me a video with a thief killing good players 3v1 and i will give you the reason.

Show me a video with a thief clicking skills killing 3v1 and i will give you the reason.

Show me a video of a thief in a middle of a big zerg spamming CC and AOE damage without dying in 3 seconds and i will give you the reason.

have you ever tried the tanky condition thief build? you know thieves do have tanky builds, but they still have stealth and everything to get away un harmed while having way to many evades, a lot of aoe bleeds and cripples, and not to mention an elite that hits everything on a 90 second CD.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1z-d9vGO52E

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KRcTKt47ixk

the second one the guy has alot of videos of thief gameplay just harrassing zergs and getting away.

show me the video of the hammer warrior beating a thief in a 1v1 fight. d/p or not.
if you do manage to show me one then i’ll show you a bad thief.

what the heck are you talking about????!!!

The first video is against really bad players . . . that bad that they don’t even know how to step out of a caltrop area!! . . . he never in the entire video is in the middle of a big zerg AOE damaging and CC AOE all with no dying.

The second video is one of the best thief in the game killing bad players teaching us just the mechanics.

NONE of this videos has a thief in the middle of a zerg AOE damaging and CC the enemies having fun like nothing is happening.

Give me a break man if you are going to argue be real.

oh im sorry was the only class being able to kill someone with fireworks not good enough for you?
and he doesn’t always fight bad players, that doesn’t change the fact that a thief can just do whatever he/she wants and get away scot free.
besides an ele can drop tons of aoe and CC in the middle of a huge zerg supported by guardians and not die.
but do people cry that eles are OP? no they cry because they don’t die fast enough so people can get there free loot bag.

the wurms a vet unless theres enough people there to make him a champ.
the champ spider isnt the event that blocks off the passage its the eggsacks.

its soloable you just need to run fast

SoLeciTO.3490:

Dagraan.2854:

so the vid of a thief harrassing a 30+ man zerg while killing and stomping people in the middle of the zerg and getting away easily is missing here, the video of a thief running around in the enemys spawn killing the merchants so they no longer work isn’t here.

the video of a thief perma stealthing mesmers in a keep or garri isn’t here.
the video of a naked thief killing people isn’t here.
the video of a thief spamming 2 and winning isn’t here.
the video of a thief not even trying in a 5v1 isn’t here.

the video of a necro tanking 4 people and 20 seconds of immobilize with just plague and death shroud isn’t here.

please tell me how a hammer warrior in pvt is OP? when you can easily counter him with stability.
or better yet, pistol 5 and stand there pressing 1 insta win against hammer warriors.

The difference is that in those videos the thief is a really good player no clicking skills and timing perfectly with no mistakes against low lvl bad players.

Show me a video with a thief killing good players 3v1 and i will give you the reason.

Show me a video with a thief clicking skills killing 3v1 and i will give you the reason.

Show me a video of a thief in a middle of a big zerg spamming CC and AOE damage without dying in 3 seconds and i will give you the reason.

have you ever tried the tanky condition thief build? you know thieves do have tanky builds, but they still have stealth and everything to get away un harmed while having way to many evades, a lot of aoe bleeds and cripples, and not to mention an elite that hits everything on a 90 second CD.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1z-d9vGO52E

the second one the guy has alot of videos of thief gameplay just harrassing zergs and getting away.

show me the video of the hammer warrior beating a thief in a 1v1 fight. d/p or not.
if you do manage to show me one then i’ll show you a bad thief.

so the vid of a thief harrassing a 30+ man zerg while killing and stomping people in the middle of the zerg and getting away easily is missing here, the video of a thief running around in the enemys spawn killing the merchants so they no longer work isn’t here.

the video of a thief perma stealthing mesmers in a keep or garri isn’t here.
the video of a naked thief killing people isn’t here.
the video of a thief spamming 2 and winning isn’t here.
the video of a thief not even trying in a 5v1 isn’t here.

the video of a necro tanking 4 people and 20 seconds of immobilize with just plague and death shroud isn’t here.

please tell me how a hammer warrior in pvt is OP? when you can easily counter him with stability.
or better yet, pistol 5 and stand there pressing 1 insta win against hammer warriors.

and you wish Anet gave you the nerf hammer every patch, then maybe you’ll have something to complain about when they constantly try to destroy 1 out of 2 viable builds, and put double Cd’s on everything if they miss.

engineer with grenades.

done.

styx.7294:

Stun and blind are way different, no sense in comparing.

Personally, I think immobilize is way more dangerous than blind.

stuns can be ignored, through stability

engies are the only class to ignore blinds.

Geekfox.4267:

Elite Gorillas are nothing compared to King Kong that can spawn during Warmaster Jofast’s events.

king kong ain’t got kitten on grape ape that spawns during the lyssa event, i can’t say his real name without it being censored but just take the g off.

Omnitek.3876:

Make RTL 20 secs if you don’t hit something. 40 secs if you do. Double the damage.

Risk vs Reward

I always kitten and hit RTL right when skill lag or someone stealths. Makes me sad, but I can keep 100% swiftness up, the out of combat utility is pointless for me, it is great in combat mobility.

If I miss, I’m not out 40 seconds of wait time. If I hit, I wanted to hit and ready for the wait.

even if it was double damage it would still be crap damage.

level 2s upleveled with green gear have higher stats than level 80s in full ascended.
wouldn’t it be better if those uplevels got into it first?

Larynx.2453:

Bastien.1645:

Larynx.2453:

Ele is not very straight forward to play, and has one of the higher skill caps in the game. Conversely, they are also ranked medium-low as far as viability goes. This means that eles will have to play much better yet receive less rewards than someone else. For example, guardians and warriors. That is the largest issue, and probably will always be a fundamental issue with the class.

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I don’t mean to discredit ele players opinions in any way but you can pretty much say that about any class in the game…imo that’s a Warrior design problem not an Ele problem.

No it’s not. Guardians can literally spam their abilities with a greatsword. Rangers autoattack 90% of the time. It’s not a warrior issue.

Warriors: Autoattack, hundred blade, whirlwind attack
Guardian: CD spam
Thief: Black powder + autoattack
Ranger: 11111111111211111111
Engineer: Grenade/bomb spam is adequate in most scenarios

I’ve never leveled a mesmer, but it’s definitely in a similar boat with ele. I leveled a necro over a year ago, but only to about 20 so I don’t think my opinion on that is very educated, but I think it’s not as bad as ele/mesmer, but it’s still much more involved than non-light armor classes.

edit: to be clear, I meant all of this for leveling purposes.

the only thing you need for a mesmer is clone on dodge and a null field then the rest of leveling is a cake walk.
mesmers suck hard early game.

Stx.4857:

Water combat on my thief is absolutely horrible, I despise it. On my necro, I feel very powerful underwater.

Basically they need to revamp the class abilities underwater, they currently are very limited and some classes are just terrible.

thief underwater combat is terrible because thief on land combat is godly.
if you want thieves to suck less in water then they will have to be thrown off their godly throne on land.

because scarlet has to get her leafy paws in everything to do with Gw2 and annoying the player base as much as possible

A Massive Headache.1879:

I don’t know what your definition of decent is, she’s just kind of there, and as a Guild Wars 1 player, I will not accept any terms that say she is at all a worthwhile villian.

EDIT: i never really understood the Trahearne hate to begin with. I can understand similarities between him and kormir, but at the same time, the backgrounds were not comparable at all, Trahearne is perfectly qualified and, while not seen, it’s more than just heavily implied he’s earned that; not like he just went off and poked at a locked away gods magic construct thing.

people hate trahearne because he’s even more useless than a pile of wet firewood, he will constantly steal your credit and others ideas, while dieing to a common chicken as a legendary Npc,
he’s like magister tassi from the second part of the halloween story where you have to re seal the mad kings son, but for the entire story.

roamzero.9486:

ukuni.8745:

I didn’t think that stuff worked in wvw

Yeah, costume toys work in wvw. After doing some more investigating and seeing more people use it, the issue is the #2 skill on the axe, a 600 range leap on 3s cooldown

So Anet, are you going to do something about this accidental Pay to Win?

cuz its so hard to hit them? even mobility warriors can be hit, and ele’s with a fiery GS. you can’t use town clothes in combat

thats called camera hacking not entirely the ACs fault.

its the exact same thing as noob, but saying noob in real life sounds silly, and saying scrub does not.
but either one means you should just ignore them. since its a clear indicator that, that person has less skill than you and you should leave immediately to avoid a bad time/run.

you know if you even thought about playing something other than a thief you’d realize how stupid your argument is.
stealth gives ultimate control of combat, theres 1 trap that any thief can just kill the guy laying it or interrupting him to destroy the trap since it costs 10 supply and has a 4 second cast time.

and some crappy ranger skill that has to be cast before the thief goes into stealth as it can’t find stealthed targets

their just decorations, wvw has them too in the citadels.

jumping puzzles and krait? mother of god what is wrong with you? do you know how many push, pulls and knockbacks those kitten lizards have? not to mention conditions with very long durations.

and krait aren’t known for making towers with big platforms.

Player Character.9467:

pantsforbirds.9032:

Dagraan.2854:

i think what needs to be done here is a nerf to the thieves F1 skills, since they still maintain their god like status.

and since their f1 skills are better than most of the classes they steal them from.

I hope you are trolling. Warriors F1 skills are some of the best In game mechanics when traited for. Cleansing ire allows warriors to remove an impressive amount of condi very quickly while doing damage. Give thieves eviscerates and the longbow fire field and warriors can have steal

How does that response make any sense in your head?

“The things thieves steal are better than what those classes can do.”
“Are you trolling? Warrior F1’s OP.”

wat?

thieves can’t steal the classes actual f1 skills im talking about the class specific steals they do.
if you weren’t so busy face pounding the keyboard to win every fight with some cheeze build you’d notice that.

the warrior steal does more than the actual warrior ability, the mesmer steal is lyssa runes elite proc, engies steal is gunk that does a fair bit of damage and acts as a confusion field and like most thieves will give chaos armor when they spam 2 going through it.
necros steal is a aoe 3 second fear, that a necro doesn’t have.
thief stealing from other thieves is a on demand 3 second stealth that costs nothing.
guardians get a stun as already stated and eles get a 3 second chill.

not to mention they can steal a 3 second invul skill from trash mobs.
and the warriors f1 skill isnt as good as you think.

very high chance scarlet has something to do with this, yay we get to deal with her again.

i think what needs to be done here is a nerf to the thieves F1 skills, since they still maintain their god like status.

and since their f1 skills are better than most of the classes they steal them from.

NornBearPig.9814:

Having 50g to blow does not a good Commander make.

100g actually it is.

he either boosted with a ghost as a villager or he is the balliest man alive and likes playing with fire, or ghosts in this instance.

i highly doubt anet will do anything about it since literally everybody and their mother who had a mesmer was doing this, and don’t say you weren’t either because that means you’d be a exploiter and a liar.

you do know that the BL tickets and scraps are way less RNG than the old halloween chests right?
if you buy 10 keys and open 10 chests you are bound to get at least a couple scraps and maybe a ticket, thats a skin of your choice.
buy 10 of the old chests and your not bound to get a skin, let alone the one you want and you’ll get a bunch of worthless junk in return.
its less grindy and you won’t have to spend as much.

evilapprentice.6379:

Dagraan.2854:

so do any of the thieves not do any attacking at all? because if i remember correctly when you spam 1 running behind someone and it finally hits you get 3 to 4 seconds of reveal as well.

why are you so bad that a 4 second reveal from a ranger will kill you. and it can’t even do anything while you’re stealthed.
if you’re so bad at the easiest class in the game then you need to roll a cleric guardian and have nothing but heal skills.

From this point on, anyone who makes it clear they haven’t read anything I’ve said up until this point is just wasting their breath – more so than usual, as hard as that is to believe from the displayed lack of reading comprehension.

if you were any good you wouldn’t be kittening about something you already self inflict on yourself.

you know its only the 3rd auto attack that causes the cripple, the first 2 hits only cause bleeding.
its not even that fast either.

Illusion.1807:

zencow.3651:

Illusion.1807:

My superior sigil of battle does not work, instead of stacking might, it simply triggers ring of earth. Why is that?

You’re using Sigil of Geomancy?

Thanks, my fault. I did forget I temporarily change sigil of geomancy on my off hand dagger.

sigils of the same type all share the same ICD, you can’t stack a sigil of bloodlust and perception, you can’t use double fire sigils to get 2 fire blasts it’ll only pick one of the two to go off.

sigil of battle and geomancy are both on swap sigils so the sigil of battle will work when the ICD is up but the game will randomly pick between the sigil of battle or geomancy.

so do any of the thieves not do any attacking at all? because if i remember correctly when you spam 1 running behind someone and it finally hits you get 3 to 4 seconds of reveal as well.

why are you so bad that a 4 second reveal from a ranger will kill you. and it can’t even do anything while you’re stealthed.
if you’re so bad at the easiest class in the game then you need to roll a cleric guardian and have nothing but heal skills.

you know whats funny? getting on a thief and making them jump just to miss and wasting their time because none of them realize it has a 40 sec cd. then ganking them the second time they jump.
good times.