Guild Wars 2

Konig Des Todes.2086:

You should know I don’t, Darc, as I said that very recently in another threat (that they don’t).

But Malyck presents no reason not to lie. And he’d have to be a very good actor to be able to keep that straight face of not knowing about the Pale Tree, Dream, Nightmare, or even what sylvari are that entire time, while also presenting to the others exactly where he came from or having his past dug into.

It’s rather counter-intuitive for Malyck to intentionally lead the PC, Caithe, and Trahearne towards his past, as well as to kill the Knight of Embers, if he was an agent of Mordremoth.

And I think you’re over-estimating Caithe’s abilities. I think Twilight Arbor’s Aetherpath shows that she’s not all that she’s cracked up to be. At least when under pressure of her reasons.

And this ignores the fact that Caithe wouldn’t know his direction – at least not on time to catch up – if the PC goes with Trahearne (as she is not present in that story mission where Malyck leaves).

Plus it wouldn’t make much sense in storytelling – it’d be a plot hook that was removed for no real reason other than character consistency that wasn’t even established at the time, when we have Anet ignoring consistency for the sole sake of leaving plot hooks open for future use (that never seem to get used).

Malyck had plenty of reason to lie if he was an agent of Mordremoth. He wouldn’t have to be an actor to pull if off. In case you forgot, one of Mordy’s spheres of influence is the mind. He took control on Scarlet, Malyck probably would have been easier. The pod could have been placed by other sylvari. That’s why it was so odd as to throw everyone off. If things go wrong, then there’s no evidence as to the location of the second tree, because not even Malyck knows where it is.

Malyck, didn’t go back to his tree at the end, he went looking for it because he didn’t know where it was. He had never been exposed before his birth. He was the perfect spy.

I prepurchased GW2 three years ago at full price. I consider it to be an excellent value due to the number of hours I’ve played the game. I expect that when I pre purchase HoT, it will also be an excellent value.

Konig Des Todes.2086:

@DarcShriek: I’ve seen that argument before, but I really don’t see how “there are more sylvari out there” gives away the secret that “sylvari are dragon minions”.

And given his personality, and that we’ve been interacting with Caithe ever since, I can’t see Caithe having the time to hunt Malyck down, let alone wanting to.

@Morenzo: That’s actually how the Pale Tree looks, more or less. So it certainly doesn’t seem to be corrupted – at least in a manner that results in physical change – in the depiction of that concept art.

I hope you haven’t fell into the misconception that all NPCs can only speak the truth. We don’t know enough about Malyck to know if he was being honest about his origins. Especially considering Mordy’s ability to affect the mind.

The existence of other sylvari in itself does not prove that sylvari are minions. However, a determined Nightmare court interogator may be able to extract the information from Mallyck. Why leave it up to chance, get Mallyck out of sight and kill him. Caithe knew that sylvari are meant to be minions and that the pale tree was protecting this particular group. Caithe would have no way of knowing whether or not Mallyck was safe. The best way to insure he’s safe, is to insure he is dead.

Caithe has had plenty of time to kill Malyck. She knew the direction he was heading. It wouldn’t take more than a day or two to accomplish. Honestly, letting him live would be stupid. Caithe doesn’t appear to be that stupid.

I’m more curious about who the exalted are.

I’m not sure if the accepted definition holds as well now that we know Caithe’s secret. Yes, there is the issue that the Nightmare court is now free to destroy the tree. However, for years now, Caithe has been willing to kill to keep the true nature of the sylvari secret. There was no way she was going to let Faolain know about her secret, and Malyck may have spilled that secret, which I believe she feels is the greater threat. She has already killed once to prevent Faolain from learning her secret.

I also believe Malyck is dead. I can’t imagine Caithe letting him return to his old tree. It’s entirely possible that Malyck was a spy.

Monkey Fritz.9052:

Windsagio.1340:

People always think they can trick companies into essentially giving away their content.

No it’s not in their best interest, people will use farmed gold > gem conversions instead of actual $$$ to buy the game, which reduces sales.

It would drive the price of gems crazy up, but that doesn’t convert cleanly into more gem sales.

I don’t think you understand how gems work.

He seems to understand that gems can be purchased with gold. The gold can be bought in bulk from gold sellers. People could buy the game without Anet receiving any revenue. Anet would be insane to allow people to purchase the game with gems.

I don’t expect us to actually kill Mordy. But if we do, I suspect the excess magic will be transferred to the Pale Tree.

Who let the dogs out?

The Mursaat had no intention of ever stopping these sacrifices. They would have made these sacrifices until the end of time, which is a very long time. If we hadn’t stopped the mursaat, there would have been no end to the sacrifices. Again, the door was opened and here we are 250 years later, the world didn’t end. The mursaat didn’t save anyone with these sacrifices.

Slowpokeking.8720:

DarcShriek.5829:

It’s never good to lie, deceive and kill innocents. It’s always evil.

Glint didn’t sacrifice innocents. Mursaat did.

Then they should let the Titans run wild and kill everything, leave a door of Realm of Torment open?

Glint didn’t sacrifice innocents directly, but she manipulated others to do so.

If I remember correctly, the door was opened, the titans came, and the world didn’t end. It’s been 250 years, since any chosen were sacrificed and the world is still here. The sacrifices served no purpose.

Also, if the cause was so honorable, why didn’t they just ask for volunteers. Arlington National cemetery is filled with people that sacrificed themselves voluntarily. These people were given no choice, they were lied to and their lives were needlessly stolen from them. The mursaat are beyond evil and can’t be trusted.

Slowpokeking.8720:

DarcShriek.5829:

@TheBlackLeech – I don’t think they are evil because they opposed the player in GW1. I think they are evil because they sacrificed innocents to further their goals. They used lies and deception to obtain these innocents. They aren’t nice folks.

If they didn’t, the Titans would have ran out and we are all gonna die.

It’s never good to lie, deceive and kill innocents. It’s always evil.

Glint didn’t sacrifice innocents. Mursaat did.

Windsagio.1340:

dwarves and forgotten are both essentially extinct though.

Have you seen any Mursaat lately? When did the forgotten become extinct?

@TheBlackLeech – I don’t think they are evil because they opposed the player in GW1. I think they are evil because they sacrificed innocents to further their goals. They used lies and deception to obtain these innocents. They aren’t nice folks.

If the enemy of my enemy is my friend, then why did the mursaat go to war against the seers? What can we expect them to do once the dragon menace is gone?

Windsagio.1340:

IllegalChocolate.6938:

I won’t discount it being the mursaat though I will have my opinion of being allies with the very people who punked out like cowards after the previous rise of the dragons.

I don’t see how they can be of any help, all they know how to do is run away and cherry pick on races after they’re spent against the dragons.

I think they’d make interesting ‘allies’ storywise for a few reasons:

1) Their offensive power is undeniable, spectral agony sucks
2) They know more than anyone about the dragons, meguuma, and magic.

Point 2 is especially important, all the other races from the prior time are gone or hopelessly devolved. The Mursaat were active and powerful as late as 250 years ago with their entire culture and history intact. They’d be extremely useful as allies.

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They’d also be extremely problematic and troubling as allies. Their history with the WM and humans is very dark, and their most notable racial trait is ‘self-serving traitors’. The thing is, this dichotomy makes for a pretty good story. Getting what you can from the Mursaat while at the same time trying to keep them from getting you in a position where they can hurt you too badly when they stab you in the back is interesting and dramatic.

Them being untrustworthy and dodgy is what would make them interesting as allies.

Dwarves and Forgotten probably know more about the dragons than the Mursaat. What the Mursaat know best is how to run away. The Mursaat are the cheese eating surrender monkeys of Tyria.

zwierz.9012:

About all the talk of Mursaat being self serving and selfish – the only question popping in my head is “So what?”.

Since when being selfish and self serving is equal to being a villain? If it is so, then majority of well… every living being with more than two brain cells are villains. From amoeba upwards, everything is ultimately self serving an selfish.

Just because Mursaat killed a ton of humans or two to keep titans at bay – it’s in the past now, and the war with humans is long over. And btw, we have more than one playable race, there is no need for any race other than human to be automatically hostile with Mursaat.

Charr? Yeah, Mursaat were opposing titans – Flame Legion Gods, ergo enemies of the other Legions. Also killed a charr (Flame Legion in charge) army invading Kryta. Where the automatic hostility?

Norn – do not give a flying dolyak about human wars in most cases, right?

Asura – like above, but with golems.

Sylvari – were not around, also they are dragon kittenes, who are they to judge?

Humans – Yeah, yeah, White Mantle, the whole shebang, but they did sign a peace treaty with the charr. Charr killed more humans than Mursaat.

I really see no reason why Mursaat can’t be our allies, at least for part of the story. Being self centered is the least of the reason, we saw during the cutscene Ryltock cutting the vines blocking the gate to the city – could be that Mursaat are under siege by mordrem, and they need our help to survive, and in return will offer us knowledge on how to fight the dragon, or other useful info for us. And then they will screw us over at first convenience of course, whenever they get what they want from us.

So you’re willing to give your life so someone else can be more powerful. Good to know, what’s your address?

Really, the Mursaat are EVIL. They maintained control by sacrificing innocents. The invaded Lion’s Arch for the purpose of killing Queen Selma. The White Mantle hunted down members of the Shining Blade.

How will we be able to be allies of the Mursaat if we are not ascended? We won’t even know they’re there.

Tobias Trueflight.8350:

Erukk.1408:

Aaron Ansari.1604:

And did I hear O’Brien letting it slip at the beginning that most of the sylvari have turned?

I do believe he did. He said something along the lines of “Most of the race was corrupted/turned.”

Player Sylvari – they are the 1%

Occupy the Grove!

What about WP’s? Will the lost city have a WP?

Also, considering all the problems that Mursaat have caused for Queen Jenna’s family and the long history of hatred between the Mursaat and the Shining Blade, I just can’t see Queen Jenna, Logan and Anise support such an alliance.

MInister Caudecus is probably preparing a welcome speech for his new overlords as I write this though. This could make for some good political theater.

I can’t understand why Queen Jenna and Anise would agree to considering the Mursaat as allies. They have bad history with them.

Seabreeze.8437:

As exciting as the new features are, I’m actually very disappointed that there won’t be another new playable race, especially considering how long the Tengu have been teased.

A new race for a huge expansion-pack announcement would’ve been jaw-dropping, but now, even though the other features are great, it feels like there’s something missing from it. Like I said, it’s mostly because the Tengu have been teased for so long, you’d think that they would FINALLY be given to us, but meh, sidelined again.

I’m not dismissing the other features, mind you. They’re really awesome, but for an expansion, you’d think a new race would be kind of obvious…

EDIT: …unless they’re keeping them superbly secret until right before the xpac’s release, but somehow I doubt it.

Why would a new race be obvious? Factions didn’t have a new race, Nightfall didn’t have a new race, and Eye of the North didn’t have a new race. It seems to me that it was obvious that there would be no new race. Besides, the story is written for 5 races, shoehorning in a six race would just be awkward.

dragonkain.3984:

No tengu? Well, no point for me to return to this game then.

Can I has yur stuff?

Why stop at 20? Why not eliminate leveling all together?

I think that Space Marine would be a cool class for my Tengu.

I find that having no expectations leads to the least disappointment.

Sligh.2789:

My concern is for the cave that we opened, the Mordrem can now remove the seeds there and grow legions of fighters for Mordremoth.

I didn’t see any seeds. Also, any tree that is growing will need 250 years to produce any fruit. We’ve got time.

saventis.1485:

draxynnic.3719:

Okay, working through the various discussion elements raised:

• I don’t think it’s actually likely that this cave is the one Ronan entered, given that Ronan’s story didn’t mention having to interact with forgotten magics to enter. It’s possible, however, that the door was placed as a security measure after the Forgotten discovered that someone had stolen a seed from there. It’s also possible that Ronan came in through another entrance (the golden archway).

i dont believe that the forgotten were around anymore when the seeds were taken.
also i believe that the gold of that cave is very important, i think perhaps a spell was cast to convert the entire area to gold to prevent anything growing in that area (mordrem vines and such) and i think when they did the spell they had made sure the seeds where put in the middle to also be turned to gold but it may have not worked on the seeds properly(may have just coated them in gold perhaps even preserved the seeds)and then ronnan breaks into this place and finds a wondrous cave made of gold then he sees these huge hunks of gold that are perfect size to carry out of the cave (everything else looks kind of attatched physically(plants planted in gold and turned to gold would be hard to uproot)) Ronan then takes the seeds away but when he sits down to inspect the gold he “borrowed” from the cave he realises that its not actualy gold and then the story continues how we know it. basically in the end ronnan was only looking for riches when he found the seeds

tldr:cave and seeds were attempted to be turned to gold by forgotten or mursaat to stop jungle dragon. Ronan mistakenly steals seeds because he thinks they are made of gold

If he thought the seed was made of gold, why would he plant it? I can’t believe he thought the seeds were made of gold. Would you try to plant a gold seed?

saventis.1485:

draxynnic.3719:

Okay, working through the various discussion elements raised:

• I don’t think it’s actually likely that this cave is the one Ronan entered, given that Ronan’s story didn’t mention having to interact with forgotten magics to enter. It’s possible, however, that the door was placed as a security measure after the Forgotten discovered that someone had stolen a seed from there. It’s also possible that Ronan came in through another entrance (the golden archway).

i dont believe that the forgotten were around anymore when the seeds were taken.
also i believe that the gold of that cave is very important, i think perhaps a spell was cast to convert the entire area to gold to prevent anything growing in that area (mordrem vines and such) and i think when they did the spell they had made sure the seeds where put in the middle to also be turned to gold but it may have not worked on the seeds properly(may have just coated them in gold perhaps even preserved the seeds)and then ronnan breaks into this place and finds a wondrous cave made of gold then he sees these huge hunks of gold that are perfect size to carry out of the cave (everything else looks kind of attatched physically(plants planted in gold and turned to gold would be hard to uproot)) Ronan then takes the seeds away but when he sits down to inspect the gold he “borrowed” from the cave he realises that its not actualy gold and then the story continues how we know it. basically in the end ronnan was only looking for riches when he found the seeds

tldr:cave and seeds were attempted to be turned to gold by forgotten or mursaat to stop jungle dragon. Ronan mistakenly steals seeds because he thinks they are made of gold

There’s no evidence that this is the right cave, I’m not saying it isn’t the same cave, just that there’s really no evidence to support that this is anything more than the location that Wynne told Caithe her secret.

Now about this cave, why did the seal prevent us from entering, but not Caithe and Wynne? We get through this forgotten seal only to find that someone has been camping out! Why weren’t Caithe, Faolain, and Wynne locked out? Was the seal put on since Caithe killed Wynne, or was it always there?

Malyck is most likely dead. I can’t believe that Caithe and the Pale Tree would allow him to return home and inform Mordremoth of the Pale Tree’s location and existence. They both knew he was from another tree and a minion of Mordremoth.

Devildoc.6721:

ZudetGambeous.9573:

Devildoc.6721:

Urosh Uchiha.9732:

Devildoc.6721:

If you did Crucible of Eternity you’ve known for 2 years that Sylvari were actually dragon minions not to be trusted.

Better put all Sylvari to the torch. I’ve been in support of that since oh, LS season 1 when Scarlet was revealed.

Yeah lets burn every race that has at least one evil person in their race (Let’s go with Scarlet being evil, I still have think they will reveal her as someone trying to do good but in a different way) aaaaand the world would be empty.

There’s a big difference here. You are not people. You are dragon minions. You are constructs. You are not born, you are created as an imitation. Knowledge is planted into your head, and you act on it. You do not learn your own perspective and choose your own path, your path is set before you, you are programmed.

The only difference is what knowledge was planted into your head prior to the Dragon’s Awakening was Ventari’s Teachings rather than the instructions of the Dragon.

Now the Dragon is awake, and able to reprogram Sylvari to serve him.

This isn’t a case of a few bad apples. This is the case of all Sylvari being vulnerable to corruption from the Dragon.

Also in other cases, people make conscious CHOICES to be evil but each person of you know ACTUAL people, Asura, Charr, Norn, Human, Tengu, Quaggan, Kodan, Skritt, Largos, even Krait (in their case it’s a cultural difference), each individual makes their own choices, so yes, it’s wrong to judge that entire group of people by the actions of one or a few.

However, Sylvari are not entities of free will and choice, they are constructs, they are programmed with a “wild hunt” which they are compelled to fulfill. Their life isn’t one of making choices, but one of obligation to fulfill their programming.

… and a Dragon can program them however he wishes.

Sort of like how humans were programmed to Zhatains will when they came in contact with him…

Or sort of how Norn’s will’s were programmed when they came in contact with Jormag…

Or sort of like how all Charr were programmed to serve the crystal dragon when they come into contact with the crystals…

So basically you are saying the Slyvari are evil because they have resisted not one, but 5 different dragons influence?

You’re wrong on all counts.

Only DEAD humans were acting on Zhaitan’s influence. Zhaitan raised corpses, he did not control people, he simply used their corpse, implanted with new programming rather than their original personality. Only a few very powerful Risen such as King Rega remembered who he was in life after Zhaitan had used his corpse.

Branded are also not living Charr/Humans, but once they’d been branded their bodies get basically fossilized as walking crystal constructs.

Jormag’s minions make a choice to join his side and accept his power. A conscious choice.

None of those other races are constructs created as Dragon Minions, Sylvari are.

Devildoc,

Kellach would like a word with you. He was not dead when Zaihtan corrupted him.

We still don’t know where the seeds were located, we don’t know why the pale tree has been separated from Mordy. We also don’t know when she was separated from Mordy. It could have been a ritual that was performed on all the seeds.

Other than this is the location where Caithe learned Wynne’s secret, what was so special about this cave?

I believe that the Nightmare court are still protected by the dream. They don’t reject the dream, only Ventari’s tablet. I think that if they were corrupted by Mordy, then they would leave the soundless alone. Because the soundless should be easy to convert back to minions.

FlamingFoxx.1305:

A Massive Headache.1879:

and I’ll say it again. sylvari being dragon minions is incredibly stupid, and I’m kind of surprised mccoys work was taken seriously.

Your comment is going to get removed, but before that happens. I agree. As far as compelling plot ideas go, this is not one.

Piece of advice to the writers. Not everything needs to revolve around the dragons. Your world begins to look very two dimensional when almost every single piece of lore we have in game in some ways ties back to the elder dragons (The Mursaat, The Seers, The Dwarves, Scarlet, The Gods…). We get that they are the big bad and are super important, but too much of one thing gets very old. You’re also tampering with lore that a lot of people love and making it seem rather trivial because you know what ‘dragons did it’.

For years before GW2 was released, it was well known that the story would revolve around the elder dragons. Now over two years into the story, you write to let Anet know their story is stupid.

I’m not convinced that ANet are the stupid ones. After all, you bought this game knowing that the story would be centered around the dragons. IF you thought the idea was stupid, why did you buy the game?

Mushroomz.4280:

Absolutely Forgotten, but to be fair, there is what appears to be a mursaat in the Heart of Thorns trailer :P

It does look like a Mursaat. Hard to be sure because of the style of the art.

I think it’s too early to know what Malyck’s ultimate fate is. I fear that he has been killed by a member of the grove, quite possibly Caithe who has already killed to protect the pale tree’s secret.

FlamingFoxx.1305:

DarcShriek.5829:

Konig Des Todes.2086:

That is unlikely to be the Ghostly Hero.

Yeah sure. It couldn’t be him. It’s just Saul with some memory problems.

To be fair it wasn’t Turai Ossa/The Ghostly Hero. Ogden was pretty clear that it was an Echo of him. It is not him, his ghost, his soul, or anything like that, it’s a magical reproduction of him/what happened during the Rite of Ascension.

Desperately reaching.

Konig Des Todes.2086:

That is unlikely to be the Ghostly Hero.

Yeah sure. It couldn’t be him. It’s just Saul with some memory problems.

Konig Des Todes.2086:

lordkrall.7241:

Unfounded?
The fact that people have been discussing it since beta would suggest that there were indeed things pointing towards it, ergo not unfounded.

The supporters have been arguing it despite continuous evidence against the theory. All evidential support they had was debunked upon release.

But ArenaNet goes and make the most illogical, asinine, and ridiculous but “common” theory canon lore.

It’s pretty kitten clear this wasn’t the fate of the sylvari upon their creation or during release.

What’s next? The gods are the Elder Dragons after all?

CureForLiving.5360:

I don’t know, just because player were able to guess it doesn’t mean its bad. Remember the series Lost? You know where the writers were so determined to be smarter than the audience that they purposefully took the series into the most stupidest directs? Yeah, I’d rather ANet not do that.

Too late, they’re going in the most stupidest directions.

It’s just that they’re giving the vocal fans what they think they want.

The NPE was this as well.

It’s become clear to me: ArenaNet has someone or someones who’s too kitten sensative to their feelings over their work that they intentionally kitten it up in a way to make it into what the players claim to want.

What’s next, Anet? Kormir no longer is a god, it is the PC from GW1?

I think this “revelation” is utterly bullkitten because 1) the “theory” has been debunked time and time again by the game itself and 2) sylvari being dragon minions (purified or otherwise) has always come off to me as a terrible story decision to try and take, as not only are they nothing like the pre-established dragon minions, but I feel that this would destroy the uniqueness and the entire concept of the sylvari being “a brand new race born in a time of turmoil”. We have many stories that feature races, nations, and other groups struggling to survive a time of great turmoil in various degrees, but just about every single one of these races/nations/groups are well established, or are a rebirth, but never – or very, very rarely – the beginning of the race who do not know why they were born into a world on the brink of the end. To reveal that “why” as “you are descendants of the world-enders!” is just plain silly and unimaginative to me.

Malkavian.4516:

How exactly was that theory unfounded. When it all came down to it, it does justify how Sylvari can be consumed by nightmare and how it’s virtually impossible to bring them back to the light as they are originally made to be Mordremoth’s minions and that all Ventari did was to show them the path to the light.

The theory that Nightmare was Mordremoth’s corruption was an entirely different – and actually supported – theory that made some semblance of sense, unlike the “sylvari are dragon minions” ‘theory’ (and I use that word very loosely).
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Dear ArenaNet, I don’t kittening care about your story anymore. Congratulations. You just managed to ruin one of your biggest fans since 2006, one of the biggest contributors to the wikis until last year, and someone who was eager to be part of your company until that same point last year. You had a chance to bring me back. I’ve been patient with you, hoping that despite the constant continuity errors that the Living World (especially Season 2) adds in, that you’d fix your path. Well, it’s obvious you didn’t. You decide, once more, to go with the “rule of cool” and ignore this fascinating thing called logic and continuity.

Congratulations, ArenaNet, and goodbye.

If you see me in-game, it isn’t for the story anymore. It’s for the mindless acts of killing pixels. Though Quake does a better job at that.

I haven’t even played Episode 8, but this single spoiler makes me not want to. To think I was actually looking forward to the update today. But no more. If I do play it, it’ll be to complete the Carapace and Luminescent armor, or to satiate a potentially inevitable curiosity about how, exactly, they decided the kitten up.

It’s been good knowing you lore community, but this is my last straw. If you see me on this forum again, it’d be habit and no more.

Edit: Oh, and it’s been said in an interview/by Caithe in TA story (I can never recall which and wiki doesn’t have all TA story dialogue up) that Faolain was, indeed, the first to encounter Nightmare – however, she didn’t fully fall into it until much alter, when Cadeyrn, already fallen to Nightmare, pulled her into it, where she then replaced him as leader of the Nightmare Court.

Wow, nice attempt to make this thread all about you.

Tobias Trueflight.8350:

Nevets Crimsonwing.5271:

Not sure if you guys saw this, but Angel McCoy wrote,

“The sylvaris’ origins have been part of their design from the very beginning, since well before we launched the game. Kudos to those who figured it out before the revelation.”

Well, if we’re being on the other side of things: of course she wrote that, it’s one of the biggest tricks to making a sudden invention seem planned all along – you say it was always planned and reference notes and written things nobody outside the company can actually see. And of course, the company would back other employees up on that.

. . . I play way, way too much with people who enjoy mind games.

It looks like you’re accusing her of lying. That’s a low class response from you.

I’m glad that the sylvari were originally meant to be minions. I hope the people that constantly bullied others for this position will reconsider how they treat people that have opinions different from their own.

I have a hard time believing that season two will end without Rytlock’s re-appearance. I think the last scene of the episode will be Rytlock returning.

There will be no season three.

Konig Des Todes.2086:

Mushroomz.4280:

Subject Alpha does show one can be corrupted multiple times, but there’s nothing shown in regards to it’s loyalty, like all dragon minions, it seeks to kill uncorrupted life.

Loyalty isn’t the question – multiple corruptions is. And Alpha is capable of controlling all minions in CoE – even getting them to be nice to each other.

Actually, loyalty is a question. Konig, you have mentioned several times that corrupted beings have no free will and must follow the will of their masters. Who is subject alpha’s master?

I think the earlier reference that the subjects were not truly corrupted and only injected with corruption is the best explanation of the test subjects.

I would add a precursor!

We should also go back to only allowing human PCs. There are too many character races in GW2.

Jaken,

Ogden was a trusted associate of the chosen one from Glint’s prophesy, the only person to pass the right of ascension. It would be logical to conclude that with as much time as the two spent together, the subjects of ascension, the ghostly hero, and Glint’s prophesy would have been discussed.

I don’t think it’s necessary to take the story to the crystal desert at this time. After all, both Mordremoth and the cave that both the Master of Peace and Caithe were looking for is in Maguuma.

Ogden is familiar with the flameseeker prophesies and probably has first hand accounts of both Glint and the Ghostly hero. He also had many years to speak to Glint between GW1 and GW2. He may have decided to somehow summon the ghostly hero for assistance in the current matter. Ogden is most familiar with the symbols on the wall and ascension than anyone else alive.

He just took a gig with Kansas playing bass guitar. That’s why he’s not back yet.

Rytlock is the new bass player for Kansas.

Point of no return means that the LW will no longer be returning. We’ll be getting an expansion instead.

What’s the point of being so obsessive over negatives? How does this thread makes things better for anyone. It’s not like there have been myriad threads about any of these items.

Malediktus.9250:

Thanks Wanze for making an item much more expensive than before. Totally unneeded.

If you were so concerned about the price, you could have bought them yourself and then initiated your own price controls to prevent them from rising in price buy being magnanimous and selling them for the price you bought them at.

When did this become a WoW forum? Please keep the petty WoW fights where they belong, not here.

Xillllix.3485:

Yes it’s too much, specially considering most episodes last about 30 minutes to 1 hour.
Anet doesn’t know how to reward players coming back and is just discouraging them by asking them to farm for 50g or take out their wallet to play content that was promised to be free. It’s inconsistent with their free to play business model.

First, GW2 is not F2P, it’s B2P. In other words you have to buy it to play it, it’s not free.
Second, every episode is available for free for 2 or more weeks.

Shinji.8320:

Here are some emotes that I think would be a highly beneficial addition to gw2:
/flirt or /kiss both of which are self-explanatory
/joke for a pratfall or similar
/duel for a not-so-serious combat challenge
And something race-specific like Asura getting a little holographic control panel thing and Charr saluting or whatever.

Please be CONSTRUCTIVE in your criticism!

I wouldn’t like flirt or kiss because frankly it would be annoying having other players use those emotes at me.

The duel could also be annoying when directed at me by other players.

I wouldn’t want either of these in the game.