^ Doesn’t matter. With 4 Warriors you should always be at 25 stacks.
Follow Molch and Wooboost’s advice. If I catch you auto attacking with the Greatsword I swear I’ll kick you right out the front door. Just kidding! If I did that there’d be no Warriors left in my party -__-
Flick through the gem store, there are some pretty ‘bone’-like armour skins in there, I was debating getting it for a while there, I think it’s called Primevil or something…
Also the Stag Armour, I forget its proper name but put Stag into TP and you should find it. Also I swear I’ve seen actual Godskull armour around… Maybe that was something else…
EDIT: here I even looked it up for you. The Krytan armour skin from the gem store (Primeval not so much.) And the Stag Armour (even if its just the helmet) is a Norn Cultural set. Tough luck if you’re not a norn :P
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^ You’re so deep I can’t even see you anymore…
King of PvE because CoF is all PvE about right now. once they put more complex AI and higher difficulty contents, warrior will get throw on the ground
Speak for yourself. I only farm CoF when I have absolutely nothing else to do, getting tokens from other dungeons takes priority (as well as from CoF too obviously.) All dungeons are made for a team of Zerkers to waltz all over it, the only variation is how much utility you’ll need (x guards + 1 mesmer to bring along.) All other professions may as well stay in PvP/WvW. It’s sad but true.
Also if they ever do jack up the difficulty you will still find Zerker Warriors, hell a CoF party could easily clear the revamped AC…
I don’t know but..in pvp underwater i actually feel op. Unlike on land i got tolls underwater
Spear – pull, gap closer, block and cc on spear
Harpoon – immo to set up a “killshot”Its makes me actually deadly to any other class. See what we lack on land weapon sets? If i want to set up a killshot i have to use that crappy bolas which miss 90% time.
I’ve noticed this, though I tend to avoid the water as though its the plague, as does everyone else.
^ Sorry I really couldn’t make sense of that…
We are kings of PvE and the laughing stock of PvP, in WvW we can survive through sheer numbers.
Why? Because braindead mobs will sit there and let you set off your optimal DPS cycle and we have enough basic evades to dodge the predictable attacks.
In PvP, and to a lesser extent WvW, every other class has the potential to simply out heal and kite you to death. Imagine a boss that ran away from you spamming cripple/chill/evades until you were dead? With our lousy condition removal and buggy gap closers, we are too easily shut down. Our big damage attacks are predictable and very easy to identify, and are thus very easily avoided by our opponents. The few opponents that are willing to fight a Warrior head on are bunkers that will easily take advantage of our sub-par healing and survivability, Guardians and Elementalists are notorious for this, they will eat everything you have to throw at them, heal themselves, while essentially dealing the same damage percentage to you, but with no means of healing yourself….
That would be amazing! Rush needs to be a leap type move so it can be immune to the effects of cripple/chill (like Savage Leap.) This move looks more intense than Bull’s Rush, and it would certainly be a step in the right direction…
All damage spec, deep strike trait covered in signets, 100b everything to death. Get used to it, it’s all you’re expected to do in dungeons as well. Well not the signets, you’ll get crucified for that….
What I found funny is that the first group I joined that did the CoF 2 skipping it was taking longer to get over the gap/wall with the air hammer than if we had just done it normally. Exploiters gonna exploit, so just find a new group. I just think it’s dumb people want to do it on the shorter dungeon paths.
People trying to get through a dungeon using a different method for the first time are going to take a little bit longer than those who have mastered it. But if after the first run you still can’t jump properly then I can only assume you’re the type of person who still has difficulty with the dodge mechanic.
It’s just another Full Zerker dungeon. LoS can clear almost all the trash. Suicide golems die when a Zerker looks at them, Destroyer is a DPS race, and alpha is just L2D. Honestly don’t know why it isn’t more popular…
Tell us which dungeon isn’t full zerk (fractals included).
Caudecus’s Manor. I hate that dungeon with a passion, I don’t even think I’ve finished an Exp path there…
Bravo!
They learned that an OP class can only carry you so far.
20% faster firing rate!? That’s a joke right? Obscene suggestions such as that is why the Warrior community isn’t taken seriously. Effectively cranking up a weapon’s DPS by 20% is OP. Now a 20% CD reduction on Longbow skills is reasonable.
It’s just another Full Zerker dungeon. LoS can clear almost all the trash. Suicide golems die when a Zerker looks at them, Destroyer is a DPS race, and alpha is just L2D. Honestly don’t know why it isn’t more popular…
We don’t have any plans to change the functionality of Endure Pain, but we are looking at making some tweaks to it. =)
And here we have the Necro/Engie condition bomber laughing hysterically at the class that already has a rough time with conditions, cheers.
Guardian – Aegis, reflect projectiles, group healing, stability, retaliation, swiftness and might. Strong survivability.
Warrior – Can hit braindead mobs really hard and share a few stacks of might, fury and swiftness. Worst survivability of all classes.
No one uses Warrior’s Sprint. Most of the time we are flying around on Signet of Rage anyway.
Now make Reviver’s Might 5 stacks for 10 seconds or more and you’ve got yourself a deal Anet…
Delete Warrior
Make a Guardian
Can we just hurry up and make this guy a Dev already, maybe we’d see some Warrior improvements within the year.
^ Sounds like your attack missed its intended target but caught someone else in the process, this can maintain your Adrenalin like piercing through someone with Killshot but having it miss your intended target.
Adrenalin is meant to drain away, having it maintain at full past the 60 second mark outside of combat is the bug.
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It’s hardly enduring pain if you are downed from condition damage while it is active. Endure Pain should mean to block ALL damage, you are ENDURING THE PAIN, and conditions are indeed pain. Conditions should still be applied but no damage should be taken from them until EP has run out, other effects of conditions should still work as they don’t really count as ‘pain’ per say, such as cripple/chill/immobilise/reduced healing from poison/etc. And considering the state of our condition removal and the state of warriors in general, I think we can have this one….
Flip a coin, in that moment you will decide which one you really want to keep.
Haha we have the same trait allocation now :P
By all means your weapon setup will work, it’s always nice to occasionally drop out of melee range if you’ve eaten a big hit, but the damage won’t be as strong as GS/Axe-x.
Over time as you learn the encounters you should be changing weapons to match each battle.
For instance having Axe/Axe on the Lava Shaman Fractal to use #5 and obliterate his shield, as well as CoF Path 2 when protecting Mag.
I change that last Utility skill depending on each encounter, I usually use Signet of Stamina though, so even if I don’t use it I’m getting more dodge rolls in. Also a full condition wipe is very handy against the likes of the Archdiviner who stack on multiple conditions very quickly. If I’m expecting little resistance I’ll use On My Mark to speed up the battle. Shake it Off against Subject Alpha to help my team with the burning damage, etc etc.
And we reach the inevitable point where no Warrior vid shall be taken seriously because to lose to one must mean they are a complete noob. The painful thing is, it’s true. A Warrior winning in a situation other than greatly outnumbering their opponent is a result of a rubbish opponent or lag, a skilled Warrior vs a skilled anything else will end in our defeat.
I once thought of uploading videos of my success in PvP/WvW, but I may as well have been fighting children that’s how little of a challenge it was. Yet as the OP stated if we went to upload videos against skilled opponents we wouldn’t have any videos to upload.
This is very similar to my own.
Do yourself a favour and please don’t go down the shout healing, soldier runes path. It has been done so many times and you get forced into a most boring play style.
A few things I might add is only have a ranged weapon equipped for an encounter you know is ranged only. Two melee sets will help to spice up your encounters, also the Greatsword auto attack is very weak compared to that of the Axe. So an optimal DPS cycle would be 100b → WA if in a good position → change to Axe/x → Auto attack → Repeat. That said, you don’t have the Fast Hands trait to pull off this cycle, but I could never part ways with this trait now that I’ve grown accustom to it, it keeps the Warrior play more fast paced rather than just auto attacking and waiting for things to come off CD.
I myself have gone with banner regen to avoid getting locked down with shouts. Don’t expect the god like healing of elementalist or guardian, but it is still healing nonetheless, something we are greatly lacking.
Now as far as Runes go, I simply must recommend Lyssa Runes, however it works best in combination with Signet Mastery (20 points in Discipline, securing Fast Hands along the way) and the 30 points to get you +30% boon duration, and Empowered trait. People often condemn going for a shout healing or regen build because of the DPS loss, but +30% boon duration is so regularly overlooked, that is 30% longer to your might stacks, to your swiftness, 1.5 seconds longer to having EVERY boon from your runes kicking in, a 3 second increase from the random boon gained when you heal. It doesn’t sound like much but that extra time of Aegis/Protection/Stability/Retaliation can make all the difference, and believe me 1.5 seconds has saved my hide many times. Not to mention that lovely Empowered trait forever boosting your damage as you hoard all these boons.
Some food for thought, make of it what you will, just promise me you shan’t become a mindless Greatsword drone who sits there auto attacking while 100b is on CD, that should be a big no no in the L2Warrior Handbook.
How is this even up for discussion? Warriors are the Kings of PvE. In high end Fractals we only bring a Mesmer or Guardian for their reflect skills, and Time Warp in the case of the Mesmer, without those skills they would be replaced by more Warriors.
We have the highest sustained damage in the game, what we lack are skills that let the enemy fall asleep so we can pummel a stationary target. Mobs do just that, let us beat them down.
In PvP if you went toe to toe with a Warrior, no healing, no moving, just pure attack, the Warrior would win everytime (perhaps not against the extremely OP’d builds such as bunker Guardian.) Alas this is not how PvP works, and it’s where all our weaknesses begin to show.
As far as Daecello goes about saying he’d rather have a team of Guardians over a team of Warriors. Sure the team of Guards guarantees success, but I’d rather see my dungeon runs completed within the day.
I’ve heard that Warrior had been patched whilst I’ve been away during May, may I ask what was actually patched?
I had high hopes when I jumped back on, expecting Warrior to at least have started to dig itself out of this rut… Yet almost the only difference I can see is that signets, still the most useless build in the history of builds was buffed. It’s like the devs don’t even read the forums.
Feel free to add any or correct me if I’m mistaken, as this was taken from one day of playing.
A) Rush still misses/bugs 90% of the time
B) Frenzy is still unusable
C) People can still kittening run off with my banners
D) Self healing is still abysmal compared to every other class
E) Sweet Revenge trait still doesn’t work
F) I still eat conditions during Endure Pain
G) I’m fairly sure I got knocked back when blocking
H) Though I forgot to check, I think I can safely assume that +1% Burst Damage is still a ‘thing’
I) Seems that Healing Signet was left out of the signet buff, go figure
And what we got was a buff to a build that should still never see the light of day.
But hey, better luck next time right?
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Aye it’s no longer a usable strategy. People couldn’t understand how to dodge the most predictable move we had or how to equip any stun breakers, so the only real way we could beat our enemy into the ground before they could retaliate was taken away, now look where we are….
Crossplay, as an adept Warrior, I feel you greatly overestimate what a warrior can do. Warriors have laughably weak condition damage and the frequency of attacks that apply conditions is abysmal.
We have a whopping two AoE attacks that we can use to clear clones, longbow #3 and F1, and F1 won’t even kill them if they’re bullrushing us or are super tank phantasms. And they’ll all be respawned in the next two seconds anyway, so I disagree about wasting time on them.
You can go toe to toe with a Mesmer, wait to burst after you’ve seen the staff teleport and blink, then immobilise and beat them repetitively, that said, their army of clones is about to either explode in your face or give then invuln, also their sword attack gives invuln aswell. So against any competent Mesmer they simply can’t be beaten, best we can do is put up a good fight and keel over to our subpar healing.
The phantasm build is the closest thing to an ‘I Win’ button as they rely on beefed up allies to dish out insane damage. It’s up there with Bunker Ele and Shortbow- S/P thieves.
It’s… A start…
Depends what you’re doing. General PvE? It’s so faceroll you can do anything, may as well keep it quick. Dungeons? Warriors are almost expected to be full berserker, but I find balancing damage and survivability to be more reliable. If you’re a dungeoneering master and know it all like the back of your hand then by all means go full zerker (Mandatory in COF1.)
PvP/WvW is just trying out different things. I stay full berserker and keep that PvE mentality going, kill things quick before you have to heal. Our healing is garbage and we won’t out-endure anything…
And never go full signets, you’re allowed two and two only (Signet of Rage and Stamina.) Even with the upcoming buff, it may still take a while for people to accept it as a valid build, whether it actually becomes valid or not is still unknown.
“No don’t! It’ll be OP! We’ll be OP!” – Shall we just sit at the bottom of the barrell forever then? For god’s sake people, thieves resetting every time they stealth, mesmers and their invincible armies dealing greater damage that getting thief ganked, invincible guardians/Elementalists. And you’re worried about a bit of extra self healing which we so desperately need. I’m almost convinced no one on here plays warrior and just wants to keep up the imbalance.
Good idea mate, we need more incentive to use Adrenalin, self healing can be just that.
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The regen will be garbage, we’re warriors, just look at shout healing, I get healed more whenever a passing Elementalist feels me up.
Spearing through people’s blocks sounds good but sacrificing a utility just doesn’t seem worth it, I’d rather watch for the blocks, bait them out if need be, and strike when they are vulnerable.
Don’t get me wrong, it’s a step in the right direction, a very, very small step. I can only hope that in a nearby patch they go through and read the tooltips and understand just what it is these skills are meant to do. Endure Pain, Shield Block, Rush – to name a few, none of these do what the tooltip indicates.
Battles shouldn’t be gambles based on roll of the die. This would make or break any battle against/as a warrior.
IMO melee damage should be buffed by 25% or ranged damage nerfed by 25% across the entire spectrum to get rid of this ungodly kiting technique that everyone has adopted, it is significantly harder to maintain melee and the damage difference is so minuscule in its current state.
^ Trust me, you’ve never been near the best mesmers in the game if you were able to one hit K.O with an eviscerate…
Bad troll is bad, stop trying to farm loot bags from warriors who should be running for back up.
9-18k Killshot? This is PvP we’re talking about, not WvW, be serious.
First step is dropping the Greatsword, it’s a brilliant PvE machine but that’s where it belongs, PvE. The rifle actually deals brilliant ranged damage, rifle #3 can wipe off half a berserkers health if they’re not careful. I use Axe/Shield to maximise damage, but I do see a few people running around with sword/shield, but I could never give up Eviscerate and the immobilise on #3 with the Leg Specialist trait – Adds a one second immobilise to all cripple attacks, also affecting the Rifle #2 skill.
As mentioned above getting CC’d is a pain. We have subpar healing and defensive abilities, so if we’re not keeping up a relentless assault 100% of the time we are losing. For utilities I use Endure Pain/Balanced Stance/and….. Bolas…. Don’t laugh just yet, use them well and they will serve you well.
If you use them later on in battle people will hopefully have already burned their cleanse and you can sit them still for 5 seconds, works very well against thieves. Run behind them to attack so they can’t retaliate (can’t spin around when immobed.) Also if the thief vanishes early into the immobilise, they are more then likely still there, keep attacking.
Lol Grok same utilities, though I might change SoS depending on the situation.
And ew, Healing Signet, when you’re that squishy – knights/zerkers – avoiding hits and burst healing works better.
It seems people can’t tell the difference between other players and mobs.
We get a 90 second CD utility that doesn’t even make us invulnerable. Mesmers get two 10 second CD invulns, go figure.
I consider it training with weights. Once the weights come off I’ll be UNSTOPPABLE
…. Y’know… Hopefully….
1. Remove the adrenalin skill cooldown after landing a successful hit and depleting our adrenalin pool. If we have full adrenalin, we should be allowed to use the attack, having to wait 10 seconds for a burst has gotten me killed many, many times.
2. If the attack is interrupted/blocked/evaded then it goes on a 5 second CD, it would kinda unfair to be able to spam it until it hits.
3. Berserkers Stance – Utility and Trait – Instantly fill the adrenalin bar, in the same way that Adrenalin Surge does. Ain’t nobody got time for waiting.
4. Vengeance up with full Adrenalin, nothing says “rallying from death to seek vengeance” like having your best skill unavailable.
5. Remove the Adrenalin depletion feature – this royally screws with piling up adrenalin at the start of combat. More importantly there’s simply no reason for us to lose adrenalin, we either use it, change instance, or die, that’s it. Sure I get the notion that we lose our “buzz” but really… NO.
Be it accomplishable through traits or just a generic buff, either one.
Sincerely,
I Want To Drop Three Eviscerates In Rapid Succession Because That Would Be kittening Awesome.
^ I just did this, made me so mad. Landed a superb Killshot through a sea of clones, used Healing Surge then immediately dropping Eviscerate on his face, he’s on his last legs and just invisi’s away like a thief kitten spits
6.5k Eviscerate/Killshot in PvP. Goes to show how different things are between PvP/WvW.
Against one opponent who doesn’t have a stomping ability – Mist Form, stability, that engineer potion thingy that shrinks them, haste – you will always vengeance up if you time your hammer toss to hit a split second before they get the stomp. This is already an incredible ability to have another shot at defeating your opponent having half your health refilled.
QQ’ing that we die when getting multi-stomped is ridiculous, no profession can survive that, sure a few may delay the inevitable slightly longer, but it IS inevitable.
Honestly if you get downed alone its game over for anyone, picking a trait on the minuscule chance that you will completely finish someone in 15 seconds is a waste in my books, considering you probably won’t even be able to vengeance up anyway, and if you do, they’d be a fool to stick around.
The day I fall to a Greatsword wielding Warrior is the day I give up on ever becoming remotely good at the game and commence uninstalling. Get it through your thick skulls people, just DROP the Greatsword, leave it in PvE where it belongs, write it love letters every now and then so it doesn’t feel abandoned.
Lemme tell you something, Axe auto attack will beat Hundred Blades every time, the damage difference really isn’t all that significant considering you will never land a full HB and the GS auto attack damage is pathetic.
You all bring shame to an already disgraceful class, I’ll see you out there for some Glory farming.
Warrior is more or less a thief who only knows how to pop stealth and spam Heartseeker. We can nubstomp pretty well (unless they’ve got a bunker Ele/guard then build will win for them) but once you hit higher tiers of play, we just don’t have the evades and invulns of mesmers and thieves, and we sure as hell don’t have the defence of a guardian or Ele, all of which will be taken advantage of until we’re resorting to throwing rocks.
Rule of thumb: Kiting > Melee, Kiting = Ranged, Ranged battles are more orientated towards survivability, of which we have none.
A thief spamming Shortbow evade will whittle you down faster than you can land hits on him…
Point of the story, come back in a few months when we have quality healing, fully functional skills that do what they are meant to do, and an F ability that is balanced with the other professions. That being said the thief one is kind of sad also, but they have so many other strengths to make up for it.
Your health is different because of the WvW bonuses!
But but… I was in LA :/
I do believe we are talking about PvE yes? Never confuse it with PvP/WvW when giving advice, they are all so very different. Well I’m assuming its PvE as you said the Ranger’s pet dies which just doesn’t happen outside of dungeons.
I’m glad you clarified that this was WvW we are talking about here. To be honest in any 1v1 you should lose, not to say you can’t roflstomp complete noobs, but generally speaking we are disadvantaged from the word go. You’ll feel this imbalance even more against bunker Guardians/Elementalists/Rangers, you might get lucky with some terrible mesmers and thieves that run glass cannon and you can sink your teeth in before they start performing circus tricks around you. That said, thief and Mesmer have a very high potential and an average one will beat a skilled warrior everytime.
Tl;dr bunker up with pull PVT Soldier Runes w/shout or banner healing and hide with a group of people. You won’t keel over if you get focused and you’ll help the group through minor healing and AoE condition removal, maybe even some CC if you roll with Hamner.
Though on the other hand, you could go full zerker and pew pew Killshot distracted people. It really depends what it is you’re doing in WvW, if you’re going solo then I wish you the best of luck, I really do….
Oh and yes, avoid condition damage, our damage comes from power/precision/crit damage. If you’re speccing for damage then around 50-60% crit chance is good as we have many ways to boost this up to constant critical hits.
Last thing! Drop the Greatsword, only AFK people will die to that, in that case any other weapon could do the job as well.
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They sure do. I use this combo to hoard might on my Greatsword rotation. I am however not sure if it stacks duration once the 25 stacks is achieved :/
^ hahahaha it’ll never happen, but man that would be funny.
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