Guild Wars 2

The experience gained starts diminishing with each repeat of an individual path as well as the token reward going down. As mentioned above have your low level toon waiting outside and swap at the end whilst having someone watch the cinematic.
So if you do that to AC1-3, CoF 1-2, CoE1-3, those being the easiest dungeons to find groups for and to get through them quickly. So there’s 6 levels a day for free, as well as 60 tokens from each path which is pretty good IMO.

Heads up though make sure you let your team know, most people are okay with it but if you encounter “speed runners” in oh I don’t know, CoF1, then you’ll be kicked without hesitation. And for the love of god don’t be the instance owner.

Cyhann.2609:

Dolan.3071:

Maugetarr.6823:

Velron.3729:

redslion.9675:

Fenrir.5493:

Cyhann.2609:

But, tell me one thing, how can you even block an attack you can’t see? o_O

Its called instinct, its called experience, its called sixth sense, believe it or not, but a person who has a lot of experience in battle can predict something like this.

The same way you know when a thief stealths you sense their backstab coming then you block.

It’s called: if you see the thief stealth, run the opposite direction, count to two-three nd raise the shield. You should be able to wait the thief out of stealth then, right?

You’re so clever! None of us ever thought about that!

Oh wait, no this is pretty much exactly what we do.

The problem is, just waiting out a stealth timer is MEANINGLESS.

I will explain. When the stealth timer just ends, there is no revealed debuff. So waiting out the stealth does nothing, all the thief has to do is immediately CnD or Smoke field+Leap again for instant restealth and now Backstab time with shield stance on CD.

Or you could shield bash to eviscerate and using the +50% crit chance on stunned foes and get a guaranteed crit taking at least a 3/4 chunk out of their health.

How do you Shield Bash something that’s over 900 yards away?
Also no one runs crappy Berserker MH Axe builds anymore, not to any degree of success against competent players anyway.

Dolan pls, at least every third warrior I see uses a Berserker MH Axe build.

Actually I’ll give you that, I think people are addicted to the sound it makes. If you’re a Berserker throwing Eviscerates at a remotely good thief, you’re gonna have a bad time xD

^ kitten that’s hard, I tried it today and they would keep blowing up cause I’d get too close. Then a random razorthorn spawned and I nearly died

Maugetarr.6823:

Velron.3729:

redslion.9675:

Fenrir.5493:

Cyhann.2609:

But, tell me one thing, how can you even block an attack you can’t see? o_O

Its called instinct, its called experience, its called sixth sense, believe it or not, but a person who has a lot of experience in battle can predict something like this.

The same way you know when a thief stealths you sense their backstab coming then you block.

It’s called: if you see the thief stealth, run the opposite direction, count to two-three nd raise the shield. You should be able to wait the thief out of stealth then, right?

You’re so clever! None of us ever thought about that!

Oh wait, no this is pretty much exactly what we do.

The problem is, just waiting out a stealth timer is MEANINGLESS.

I will explain. When the stealth timer just ends, there is no revealed debuff. So waiting out the stealth does nothing, all the thief has to do is immediately CnD or Smoke field+Leap again for instant restealth and now Backstab time with shield stance on CD.

Or you could shield bash to eviscerate and using the +50% crit chance on stunned foes and get a guaranteed crit taking at least a 3/4 chunk out of their health.

How do you Shield Bash something that’s over 900 yards away?
Also no one runs crappy Berserker MH Axe builds anymore, not to any degree of success against competent players anyway.

Oh man you did Path 2? Yeah stuff that, I don’t even do that path anymore. Without a group of people who know exactly what they’re doing (rare in PuG’s these days) then the Ghost Eater is a nightmare. Like people have already said, dodging is the best form of damage mitigation, WoW teaches you to stand still and spam your abilities in a mind numbing game of ‘hit and get hit’. Ghost Eater only has two attacks, the three or so AoE fields which you need to barrel roll out of if he’s aiming at you, and the claw projectile which has a very recognisable cast, just roll forwards through the projectiles. I always take Vigor for that fight so I can stay in melee range when he becomes vulnerable to dish out as much damage as possible. Other than that coordinating the oozes into the traps really shouldn’t have been a problem seeing as you were on mumble.

^ Lol yes! Golem Tennis, I’ve played so many games of that.
Provided everyone does actual damage and not garbage conditions, then just obliterating the protection turret every time it spawns is still fairly quick. Minor annoyances are Vulnerability getting cleansed, the minor regen, and the barely noticeable retal.

I’m not gonna lie, improper banner use drives me mental. Even when I’m not in a speed group and I see someone drop Banner of Defence, or if someone doubles up on a certain banner because they can’t read the kittening party chat. And just the general lack of Banner skill, simple stuff like where to drop it, and not seeing them use one throughout an entire encounter. Half the time I just engage buff-bot mode and roll with Banner of Strength, Discipline and For Great Justice, because other people just cannot banner properly…. And then I get mad cause I can’t carry the other one.

>Accidentally deselects boss
>Goes flying off edge

Too much reward. Why bother trying to up the reward from every other source, be it other dungeons or running around Cursed Shore or slaying Dragons, to keep up with CoF1 when you can just cut it back here to have a similar ‘time to reward’ ratio as everything else?

It is a good starter dungeon, though TBH I preferred old AC for that as there was none of this elitism which is a bad first impression to make on the newfound dungeoneers.

Six silver and a weapon that is now useless outside of CoF. So really, it’s the price of a whole new weapon, which is kind of counter productive if you’re not an ‘8 hour a day kitten $$$ farmer’.

Sure lets give Thieves an unblockable backstab. Absolute genius.

Lets get something straight, Thieves need nerfs not buffs. If everyone at Anet tried a profession other than Thief then maybe they’d stop making the game revolve around them.

It is nice to have a ranged weapon to fall back on, but after you’ve done the encounters a few times you’ll find yourself rarely using your ranged set. 99% of all encounters can be done in melee anyway.

And yeah offhand Axe I have only found two encounters that make it worthwhile, that is CoFp2 defending Magg, Whirling Axe cleaves through enough targets to push it beyond auto attack damage. And the Legendary Shaman Fractal, using Whirling Axe on its shield to power through its block stacks. The No.4 skill just isn’t even worth using because we have plenty of Fury uptime as Warriors anyway.

Ayrilana.1396:

Umm… The #2 skill is very useful. I often use it when the golem just stops short of being in range of the husk.

The chance of sending it near a teammate is just not worth the risk. If its that close to the Husk then another zap will do the trick.

PuG’s drive me mental against the Evolved Husk. A bunch of chickens running around with their heads cut off, shooting a golem I’m already controlling, shooting the golem as soon as it spawns, using the No.2 skill at all. Seriously, just let the golem walk halfway to where it pauses then zap it, get it during the window from where it stops moving to where it starts following someone and it’ll go straight into the Husk on the first go everytime. I usually have to ask people to just not go near my corner so I can do all the work while they play Golem Tennis.

The Greatsword isn’t necessary. There’s nothing stopping you from alternating between say, Axe/Mace and Hammer. With Tremor on Mace you would be the interrupt king whilst still dealing high damage from the Axe (try to spend as little time auto attacking with the Hammer as you can, just change, use your big damage skills/interrupts then switch back.)

^ It’s not a choice of Greatsword over Axe, it’s a choice of using them both over just the Axe. If you’re purely using the Greatsword then I’ve got some bad news for you….

Axe/Mace – Greatsword for 30/25/0/0/15
Axe/Mace – Whatever for 30/0/0/10/30

Greatsword damage only beats Axe auto attack if you consistently land every hit of hundred blades, and collect roughly at least 10k damage on Whirlwind. Anything less and you’re better off just spamming Axe auto attack and using Cyclone Axe, Mace 4# and 5# (hits twice for big damage) whenever they’re off cooldown without interrupting your auto attack chain.

Also note that the +15% crit chance buff from Heightened Focus is inaccurate. I’m fairly convinced its still +9% as it was originally if it even buffs you at all (Effect doesn’t display on the stat page and the supposed crit rate boost is more of a placebo effect.)

If you think Thief will ever be balanced against other classes you’re in for a rude surprise.

Thieves running Dual Pistols whilst putting everything into Iniative gaining to spam unload.

VenomousEX.4012:

Nice one man. If use both sigil from the dg together with night sigil does it stack up??

I believe so. It’s why CoF farmers use Sigil of Smoldering and Sigil of Night on their Axe/Mace.

Rangers sweeping the streets.

Stopped taking you seriously at ‘Support Ranger’.
Everyone is entitled to play the way they want to, it doesn’t mean other people should have to tolerate it because the ‘way you want to play’ is so counter-productive they may as well 4 man it.
It’s just like any other group based event, playing sport for instance. The way you enjoy playing could be to sit in the middle of the field twiddling your thumbs, does that make it fair for the rest of the team to have to pick up the slack?

Also Nikaido is right, I only ever see ‘Warrior, Mesmer only" for CoF1, oh and a bit of ’Guardian only’ for FotM.

^ I haven’t been able to melee solo her to any effectiveness over ranged. You’ve got that melee strike that hurts quite a lot, then I gotta put a huge gap between me and her to avoid the web, then avoiding the poison fields which can stuff up melee if she decides to sit in it. So I think ranged DPS is probably better, just kiting her in circles until she’s dead.

Haha I find doing the Greatsword rotation more repetitive and boring, because you’ve gotta be paying attention, whereas never changing out Axe you can just position yourself, press 2,4,5 every now and again, and do something else at the same time, like type to guildies or what not. I’ve tried both so again it’s just my (lazy) playstyle.

Also my Heightened Focus buff never shows up, from OOC no adrenalin to full adrenalin in combat my crit chance figure doesn’t change at all. I just assumed it was bugged like the old Heightened Focus :/ Also I don’t remember the exact numbers but in the transition from 25 points in Arms to 30 in discipline I gained crit chance (assuming HF does what it says it does, which I’m inclined to believe seeing as I’ve noticed my crit rate increase. Seriously running 30/25/0/0/15 at least one hit in every 100b wouldn’t crit <__<) this isn’t for argument’s sake because I wouldn’t have made the transition otherwise.

EDIT: Way to edit your own post there buddy, so I guess you never actually tested HF in and out of combat? Boy I wish I’d quoted that.

Even in casual groups I would rather take an Elementalist over a Ranger. Elementalists can heal, drop useful combo fields, can also hit like a truck if you take the Lightning Hammer path. A ranger can sit at 6000 range contributing 0 DPS whilst unnecessarily aggroing mobs when their pet isn’t dead.

haviz.1340:

Dolan.3071:

@ Haviz, if you’re going to take a potion, why not take the right one?

I’m not going to use icebrood potion for few mobs, then another one for undead, then for inquest, then for undead again etc.

Htngdbffhvs! I mean like a + power or + precision one.

@ Dub, So thats a no you haven’t tested it and just say it because someone else said it? Relax I’ll take your word for it.
I use either Empowered Allies or Inspiring Banners depending on the Warrior to banners situation, if all else is taken then I’d use Empowered. But really how does a difference of 10 points suddenly make it the most boring build? Nothing really changes in the play style…

Dub.1273:

Dolan.3071:

Also Forceful Greatsword might stacks are pathetic, 5 seconds? kitten please.

Hit three targets and welcome permanent 25 stacks of might.
Against bosses where you only hit one target it’s still 8-9 stacks might (+3-4 from WA) which do a LOT of difference in a non 100% optimized party. Also in optimized parties you often hang around with 20-22 stacks instead of 25 stacks because the duration doesn’t stack. Use a greatsword and you’re at perma 25.

In a semi-organised group with Warriors spamming FGJ and what not, Forceful Greatsword does more harm than good by reducing the duration of your stacks. So now you’ve got a solid investment into a trait line that you can’t change to better suit the team setup, which is why I prefer 10 in tactics, but really each to their own.

@ Colesy, now we are definitely going in circles, I already said that Mesmer utility is the only thing bringing it along. It does less damage in the sense that you would only take one for the utility. Though I will ask you this, why do kitten near all Mesmer’s sleep at ranged? Is it like the only class that does ranged better than melee damage?

@ Colesy, A guardian is a safety net version of a warrior, a Mesmer does even less damage than both. I can’t really add anymore to it.

@ Haviz, if you’re going to take a potion, why not take the right one?

@ Dub, 30/0/0/10/30
Have you actually tested it to prove that the +10% damage is added post-crit? This is actually a genuine question, no lip here. Also Forceful Greatsword might stacks are pathetic, 5 seconds? kitten please.

Throw boulders, win.

An hour is insanely long. Guess I’m in for a rude awakening when I start doing Arah…

It’s not really a ‘major’ fail but by god does it happen a lot. AC when trying to stack the Spider Queen and someone mucks up causing her to drop poison, I hightail it outta there and purge that ungodly poison as soon as I’m clear, usually healing straight after. Only to turn around and find the rest of my team defeated. Are you guys serious? Did the enormous red rings, green clouds and the insane amount of damage you started taking not ring any bells!?. This has happened on at least 5 different occasions….
I only hope that it’s attacking someone on the brink if death so I can run past her and (not get incinerated by torches) leg it back to where the first burrow usually spawns.

haviz.1340:

Dolan.3071:

Bleugh that website loads horribly on my phone, I’ll take your word for it.
Hey it’s not my fault none of the DPS traits are in Arms
You don’t use oils? So tell me, what do you use during CoE?

Attack of Opportunity is a dps trait. If I run CoE more often than occasionaly, I’d use potions of undead slaying for alpha, since those golems die fast enough.

Oh? So +10% damage against bleeding targets is better than +15% from the Strength line? Or 15% crit chance (and a buttload of crit damage) from Discipline? Yeah didn’t think so. And so you run a potion that does absolutely nothing to the Icebrood at the start, the golems throughout, and the Destroyer, gee if only there was some generic buff you could take to improve damage against all targets…

colesy.8490:

More damage will save a battle. Case in point, bursting down slave driver and some of the zerker wars drop towards the end of the burst. What if they were in rampager? Literally the only thing saving them there was hardcore damage which enabled the rest of us to just clear up the last few hit points.

This is what I meant about Rune choice vs armour stats, armour choice will make that difference, but runes will not. Full Zerkers with no runes will burst him down before too much damage is done.

colesy.8490:

Actually, guardians have quite high DPS when you go glass, and if it wasn’t obvious enough I go full glass. The only safety net I have on my guard is two blocks, a little heal and 4 secs of prot/regen. Apart from that, full zerk, less than 11k HP and I get absolutely destroyed if I don’t roll properly.

And no, I don’t do CoF runs on my guard, I do those with my mesmer because a 4th warrior is better DPS in CoF. I run my guard in CoE or my mes, (depends on what’s needed) because they have quite a lot of utility and give the group a lot of sustain against alpha where you can put up blocks to take pressure off the team, stability against the golem so it doesn’t whack you back, blocks against the evolved destroyer so the team doesn’t have to evade and can continue bursting and a bit of condition removal.

And again, just to reiterate I’m full DPS spec so while putting up that support I’m joining the team in bursting down the bosses, not just sitting in trash PVT gear “tanking”.

See now I actually agree with you, but it contradicts all the “DON’T NEED SAFETY NETS L2D N00BS!!11!1!” You’ve been preaching throughout the rest of this thread.

Also while it sounds good in theory, unless you’re running with a regular group or are on TS, people will still evade Dragon Tooth drops against the Destroyer. Imagine if someone ate one of those, died, and blamed you for not giving him Aegis? It just doesn’t happen. Same with dodging the Golems spinning attack, habit will be to evade over relying on the Guardian.

Also you don’t even need a Guardian in CoE, 4 warr/1 Mes is more than enough. Again I dont mind a Guard in the party, I’m just pulling this from your other posts, that makes you a DPS leech who needs to lose the safety net…
Mesmer isn’t even wanted for its ‘sustain’, Time Warp and easy access to pulls is the only reason it isn’t just another Warrior (A warrior can just use Fear Me to position Alpha, but then it’s a DPS loss on that wasted utility.)

haviz.1340:

This simple build shows 102% with fury and that’s without banner (170), precision runes (81) and 2nd nourishment like oil (92 with base toughness and vitality, though noone uses oils in pve). Your warrior build has probably 0 points in arms while guardian has 300. That’s ~14%. Plus, precision doesn’t scale weird, it’s always linear.

Bleugh that website loads horribly on my phone, I’ll take your word for it.
Hey it’s not my fault none of the DPS traits are in Arms
You don’t use oils? So tell me, what do you use during CoE?

colesy.8490:

I get pseudo invulnerability by dodging or putting up blocks. You are seriously better off taking a whole 8%+ crit damage over some pointless invuln. It’s like running PVT, you’re just using it as a safety net rather than working on becoming competent enough to overcome having weak armour.

The logic is the same but the actual comparison of Rune choice to armour stats is getting just a bit ridiculous. I’m aware your standards for grouping are a lot higher, but “pointless invuln” will save a battle over +8% crit damage. Honestly as far as PuG’s go I’d rather have it take 1.5 seconds longer than risk a wipe if I become the last man standing. Sure I’d love to be confident in my team, but I’m not, and if kitten hits the fan I’ll be wanting that condition cleanse and invuln over a very minor damage buff.

colesy.8490:

Depends on the PUGs I guess. I always PUG in speed runs so I have no need for a safety net when we’re all bursting bosses down.

You speak in a very condescending manner at the notion of having safety nets, yet you play a Guardian, the physical manifestation of a safety net. The class itself sacrificing DPS for all of its safety nets. Hypocrisy in its finest, how do you even get let into CoF runs? By your logic if you we’re any good you’d be playing a Warrior 100% of the time, but you rely on your safety net of a class because you’re not competent enough yet.

colesy.8490:

30 in radiance with zerker everything, right-hand strength. On my greatsword I have 87% crit chance w/fury.

If only the Warrior traits made it worthwhile to go 30 points into Arms, oh the freedom we’d get
EDIT: Actually stuff that, we get huge amounts of power and crit damage, I’m very okay with making up precision via other means

kitten it Xehanort I’ve killed you like three times now!?

colesy.8490:

Why not run ranger runes instead? You get the same precision increase, just along with 8%+ crit damage. The sixth rune is trash so you can just stick a ruby orb in. I’ve found if you’re in a strong group with warriors as a Guard that you can just stick rubies in and the fury uptime the warriors give makes up for the decrease in precision, I mean what reason do I have to have 103% crit chance with fury? Anything beyond 100% is completely useless.

I have considered rolling with Rune of the Eagle/Ranger. But really 5 seconds of pseudo-invulnerability every 48 seconds is better than +8% crit damage IMO. It’s the small things like facetanking an attack I would usually have to dodge would get a few extra hits in, but mainly it’s just a big fat ‘get out of jail free’ card, which has been a lifesaver in PuG’s but probably wouldn’t be necessary in structured guild runs with voicechat.

You could sit on 103% with fury!? What sort of precision steroids do guardians take!? Unless you’re referring to Sigil of Perception which is very circumstantial….
I sit at 98% with full Zerker gear, runes of Lyssa, banner of discipline, Heightened Focus (+15%) and +8% or so from food and nourishment. Precision scales weird at high percentages but using something like Scholar Runes would just shatter my crit rate, and as far as I’m concerned, every hit that doesn’t crit you may as well not have even swung in the first place (Weakness peeves me off something fierce.)

Delay.6908:

Dolan.3071:

Shame. I run Runes of Lyssa, guess that makes me a scrub who gets double precision from his Runes compared to Ruby Orbs, and a substantial more than Scholar Runes. And really when I start noticing my crit rate drop when my nourishment buffs start wearing off (dropping below 98%) then I can’t imagine how abysmal the crit rate and resulting DPS loss would be with those runes. But hey, maybe as a scrub I’m just unlucky in that department.

remember scholar is +10% dmg… thats much better then a bit more cirt chance >.<

Provided you haven’t taken any hits, and if you want to get all particular about damage then you should be sitting under 50% the whole time for Desperate Power. The crit damage is wasted without enough precision to put it to constant use. Probably the only thing noteworthy is all that power, but I would always take crit chance (obviously not beyond 100%) over power seeing as crit damage plays such a vital role in our DPS.

Shame. I run Runes of Lyssa, guess that makes me a scrub who gets double precision from his Runes compared to Ruby Orbs, and a substantial more than Scholar Runes. And really when I start noticing my crit rate drop when my nourishment buffs start wearing off (dropping below 98%) then I can’t imagine how abysmal the crit rate and resulting DPS loss would be with those runes. But hey, maybe as a scrub I’m just unlucky in that department.

SnoodBeAR.5286:

Player Character.9467:

Ethics.4519:

ilr.9675:

Would loooove to see your metrics sometime on how you’re measuring success here…

Cash

Profits

Dosh

Cha-Ching

CoF3 → SE2 → HotW → CM → AC2
At least that’s what I’ve found, I always find a CM group before a HotW one, which I don’t understand because HotW is a bajillion time easier and gives you ectos from the rares….

AntiGw.9367:

20% of what?

I don’t include gear and skills in the equation. As long as the player is attacking the mobs that need to be attacked, doesn’t start fights before the party is ready, and is behaving like a decent person, he’s doing his full 20% as far as I’m concerned.

Do you see what you are writing from my point of view?

You think that running the gear you think is optimal is the only right way to run a dungeon. I think that your gear is just an optional and non-critical bonus, because dungeons are perfectly doable without it.

You just went full kitten.
You probably think you’re a good player too because your character is so strong he can eat every single hit whilst still dealing a whopping 500 damage with each hit…

Inevitable.8920:

Elitism isn’t what you think it is. DnT has strict recruiting applications because we want players on par with our skill level. The reason guilds like DnT are created are to have a group of expert players to group with for smooth runs. Everyone has seen the horrors pug groups can bring. Well imagine if all your runs went smoothly. You never had to explain a boss mechanic and rarely had to explain a tactic. Doesn’t that sound nice? I think it does. That is why I joined DnT. People seem to have a perception of elitists that were all jerks that are conceited and self righteous. That is far from the truth. Most of DnT’s members are cool guys. There are the occasional conceited people we have join, but the requirement to join is knowing how to play, not being humble and relaxed. I would take a player whom is rude and a great player in my group over a cool player who has no idea what hes doing. Putting up with groups who say cannot kill lupicus is a lot more aggravating to me than putting up with a player who acts like a hot shot all the time. But I guess, many people don’t share this opinion.

It does sound good, I’m at my wit’s end with PuG’s, too much carrying, too many trash builds/classes being brought along. Whilst I definitely don’t consider myself elite, I do consider myself better than the average riff raff that I party with in PuG’s, that uncertainty is why I haven’t pursued a place in one of the big dungeon guilds.

Poor Colesy getting ganged up on. Shame he’s right.
Dungeon difficulty is at a point where it’s not about success or failure, it’s about how fast you can charge through it so you have enough time to do other path/farm. The latter being the case it’s all about doing big damage and bringing the least amount of defensive measures as you can. Every point you invest in defence, be it gear/traits/skills/weapons, is a point you are deducting from offence, which in turn makes the dungeon go for unnecessarily longer as a well timed roll will replace all the defence in the world.
As a Warrior I used to run a hybrid of PVT and Zerkers, with of all things Banner Healing and yes, that made me a terrible player and a leech on my team. Full berserker is all you need (small exception to high level fractals where you may need someone to fill the ‘anchor’ slot.)

Also @ Kain I’m glad I’m not the only Warrior who does that, I have two swords stashed in there, like, when am I ever going to need OH sword over anything else? I just don’t know…

I hope they give it some juice because the Citadel of Flame section would crash the server…

Besides what wrong with gw2lfg.com? It sits in my favourites next to the website that tells me which servers are uncontested for dungeons and temples ;D

@ilr,
I can’t really tell if you’re talking up how difficult CoE is or talking down how good PuG farmers are, or both.

I actually wouldn’t mind all Alpha battles being like the end of p3 where he drops AoE’s no matter how you stack him, but if you mean not being able to hide inside him to avoid the unblockable Teeth of Mordremoth, then maybe a rightly specced Guard or Ele might be necessary for some burst healing after each hit so the rest can still focus on burning down his tiny health pool. Either way I’ve breezed through CoE1 with many PuG’s and it would be nice if it became the new popular dungeon as I believe the skill level of all players would improve to cater to the harder content. Not really calling CoE hard but CoF is just stupid easy.

And just as nerfing CoF would result in everyone farming CoE, nerfing Warrior damage would result in everyone farming with the next best DPS class (I’m thinking Guards seeing as Thieves and LH Elementalists can’t faceroll as easily.) Then it’s just “ZERK MES LF3 ZERK GUARDS COE P1 FARM $$$$$$ PING GEAR” and you haven’t solved the problem at all…

Colesy I feel your pain. I don’t think I can PuG anymore, I just, I don’t have the will to go on with this kitten anymore. Pugging 100% of the time has made me so hateful of other players to the point where I’m vote kicking at the first sign of trouble (e.g, Low achievement points, being a Ranger, etc.) Even then the garbage that spews itself into my party makes me feel ill.
I just had a 4 warrior/1 guard group wipe twice on CoFp2 defending Magg, how is that even possible!? Before I knew it I was the only one left, running for my life out the archway with my tail between my legs only to eat 62 perfectly synced Earthshakers from the army on my kitten . I RQ’D on the second wipe, didn’t even care that I was the instance owner. I simply cannot go on with PuG’s…. I simply can’t do it anymore.

Syn Sity.5826:

Only lazy and imcompetent people try to do dungeons fast.

0/10

Dagraan.2854:

people think underwater combat is complete hell of GW2 is because usually the cookie cutter build they run doesn’t perform well underwater, same with the ele bunker build it can’t do what people want on land.

and you can’t use a GS under water and press 2 to win. personally i find its easier to dodge attacks underwater.
but generally the best classes underwater are mesmers, guardians, and eles mainly the trident with the bouncing projectiles and the amount of damage the ele can put out. not to mention the blind field you can put out and just sit in.

the problem isn’t underwater combakittens Hotw and classes that suck kitten underwater.

I find Mariner’s Frenzy to be much funner to do that Hundred Blades, though I’m not too sure about the damage comparison. Not even mentioning Tsunami Slash which is the best skill in the game. You’re like a kitten heat seeking missile!

Nikaido.3457:

Dolan.3071:

A perma staff wielding Necro (don’t actually know if that’s good or not)

You wouldn’t be able to notice the difference between 4manning the run and having a staff necro in your group.

And there goes the few shreds of guilt I had about what I did.

Kicking is too small of a punishment for bad mouths. Why even today I did AC and I suggested that we didn’t stack the Spider Queen after most of the mobs were cleared because I honestly didn’t believe this PuG had what it took to stand in one spot and not move. A perma staff wielding Necro (don’t actually know if that’s good or not) became very insulting regarding my intelligence at such a ‘stupid tactic’. I moved the mouse away from Vote Kick and spent the rest of the run dedicating myself to pulling as many mobs as I could onto him, no easy feat mind you. Overall I think he was defeated about 8 times and half of those all I had to do was make a Graveling knock him down and the lack of stability did the rest for me. And oh boy did I rack up some kills on that sprint from the scepter pieces chest to the Howling King area… Oddly enough the rest of the group did pretty well.

I like it. Teaches people some basic character control, whilst actually giving you a noteworthy reward at the end unlike Jumping Puzzles. PuG this path enough and you’ll soon discover no amount of achievement points can teach you how to jump from one platform to another, seriously I had a guy with 10,000 points who spent a good 15 minutes eating dirt with a Lightning Hammer is in hands…