Skye Eterna ~ Mesmer | Arya Slade ~ Charrdian | Kiera Thine ~ Ranger
Oceanic ~ [LOD] [Noob]
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Was not ready for that, not here of all places, I’ll have to be more careful….
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I don’t think you actually read the guide
This right here is why I dont show my guild tag on the forums, I tl;dr through kitten and say dumb things. I skimmed through and only saw the Fury Share and lost my kitten at 30 in water. Is it clever to make such a scumbag comment when not reading things properly? No, no it is not.
So my apologies on that one Zelyhn.
Although even after reading through the ‘All Damage Build’
Wouldn’t 10 points from Arcana be better spent in Water to nab Piercing Shards + Vital Striking?
Call me old fashioned but I still see an Ele without a conjure to be just so… useless. The damage just isn’t even comparable, and you dont even mention using Fiery Greatsword (granted I didn’t read through the comments to see if it was added.)
Also Nik I didn’t know I managed to get on your bad side during the entire day we were in the same guild :/
Warrior with two sigils of Earth.
Don’t forget dual wielding swords!
If only that were viable, dual Bonetti Rapiers would look amazing.
But warrior will still deal insane damage, that’s perfectly working as intended, they won’t nerf that.
That ‘Advanced’ Elementalist guide made me giggle. GJ on your team carrying your lousy DPS through dungeons. Maybe ‘New Player’ guide would be more fitting cause you practically run bunker traits.
Necros can mass spam blinds and chills, if PvE was better designed they would be pretty bloody useful.
If conditions in PvE were better overall Necros would be pretty useful…
Hell if dredge were blindable they would be so useful in that fractal.
Elementalists have already got that covered with their repeating blind field
There are two professions I refuse to PuG with, Ranger and Necro. After that I judge Engies and Thieves on their AP, too low and they get kicked, too high and they obviously only farm APs so kick too. Seriously I swear the player skill to AP ratio drops off at either end of the scale.
Warrior with two sigils of Earth.
I suppose that’s better than the Meta Event farming craze that’s going on <_<
Legion Of Dynamicevents
Hahaha oh woooooow I am using that xD
Brazil, Dub, Muffin, Myself, and others, could all solo it legitimately if we wanted to. Can you, or all of the other path sellers say the same?
Ask any of the above when was the last time they skipped Lupicus, with the intention of making gold. Not that I really care for solo’ing, I get bored if I don’t have someone to laugh at when they fail.
Also, Brazil and I have been successfully getting banned on lfg almost daily at this point. Would be pretty hypocritical to grief others.
If I put aside the time to throw myself at Lupi until I got him down to a fine art like the [SOLO] chaps have I’m sure I could solo p2 legit. Though I’m not too sure about Alphard with a Warrior (bracing for Guardian jokes), might have to abuse LoS but keep her on the move as to not technically “exploit”, I don’t really know, my few legit attempts went sour very quickly if I didn’t abuse LoS especially when the adds spawned.
I don’t even sell slots since all the griefing started, I just give them away to guildies… My laziness strikes again ;D
I can’t wait until they fix all of the exploits in Arah. That will really get rid of most of the path sellers.
> Exploit Arah, sell slots, make gold
> Other people learn exploits
> They sell slots, make gold
> Exploiting is now wrong and should be patched ASAP
> Probably part of the griefing crew who report all the sellers and make thousands of phony LFG’s using the seller’s name
… That last one was probably a stretch but you get my point.
Inversely OP against enemies with retal. ._.
A madman’s guide to killing yourself in under a second.
kitten you Vivena/Golem mobs in CoE.
- is simply a bad idea because people will rush and kill a certain boss and then leave and repeat.
For example in TA, people used to just rushkill the first champ Nightmare Vine to farm Onyx lodestones.
In Arah, people used to farm Crusher/Hunter and/or Magecrusher, which is why Magecrusher doesn’t drop anything anymore by the way.
I really like #2 though, although I’d much rather see it with only the explorable modes. Every dungeon has at least 1 path that PUGs hate to do (except maybe CoE), which would encourage people to at least do the hard paths in order to get extra rewards.
If they implemented that, and included story mode that you had to complete, they’d have to make all the storymodes less stupidly long.
If I didn’t know any better I’d still think you wanted to mindlessly farm CoE all day
I liked #2 until you pointed out CoE, and then it would just be farmed to all hell, though I suppose that’s better than the Meta Event farming craze that’s going on <_<
OHBOYOHBOYOHBOYOHBOY
OP what have you done!?
I kinda feel for OP, whilst I don’t do CoF, if CoE or Arah is contested across all servers then I just don’t do the dungeon, I’ll find something else to do until someone else opens one.
#LaziestplayerNA
Ele.
/15char
Is generally the first profession to go down in a bad PuG, regardless of how good the Ele is. Don’t get me wrong Ele has incredible potential but it suffers the most when things go wrong.
Warrior has high demand but is utterly useless at carrying a bad group. TBH I wish I had levelled my Guardian and put it through FotM after seeing just how easy one observant Guardian will make every single fractal.
Because you didn’t skip Lupi and bug every boss along the way
Gonna be sad man if today’s patch removes/removed that. Q _Q
Lets face it, getting unexplainably turned into giants and party-boying Zhaitan to death would be better than what we’ve got.
This conversation just went over my head. What’s an SSD? These load times are killing me
-irrelevant-
So, Wethospu and Swiftpaw, you guys wanna tell us something? Dat name… You guys been doing the dirty? Some NA/EU meddling right there.
Ahahaha comedy gold.
It would probably end up being a structure that doesn’t move or takes critical damage that spawns endless mobs like TAFU and people will come complain on the forums about the HoZ.
And the we’ll end up having to liberate the frontpage from all the HoZ.
Cause dem HoZ be cray.
I think dirty things when I see your name.
You think DM is bad, try getting that Diving Explorer achievement, I gave up at 36/38 after doing them all twice.
Kholer legit > FGS.
If you don’t give him stacks of Defiance you can use Wall of Reflection and he will interrupt himself with his own pull. Buys you a bit more time ^-^
There are so many things you could do to fix Zhatain. Like, instead of hurp durping around he actually destroys the gunship you’re on and swallows everybody. Using gypsi magic to survive you wake up inside and then proceed to wade through more trash and some miscellaneous unimportant events until you reach…
Wait for it…
‘The Heart of Zhaitan’ Dun dun duuuuuun!
Epic final boss battle ensues in which you kill Zhaitan from the inside.
Don’t lie to me it would be epic and you know it
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By ‘fixing’ culling they’ve put more pressure on your computer and Internet connection to handle the extra payload so to speak.
Also 8 FPS is terribad, how on Earth do you play like that? Even my crumby laptop sits me around 30 which is still pretty bad IMO.
I notice this in Arah where there is so much “scenery” to load that my FPS plummets, all I can say is just turn your graphics to ‘Best Performance’. My god does it look terrible but it’ll get you through those difficult areas.
new meta: kick dolan to sell his slot
Aw dang.
The path is easy only the final boss is hard.
My butt still hurts from the times where Vivena had foul RNG.
It was pretty funny xD
Necro? Kick.
800 AP Thief? Kick
Ranger? Lets see how he goes. Camping ranged as expected, kick.
That went on for a while, think we found the best PuG Warrior ever though, dat banner micro managing is just something the regular PuG can’t handle.
OH THAT’S RIGHT and we grouped with No.1! Like The Number One, he had what 13/14k AP? And he was a fear Necro, but it’s okay, we don’t depend on mob positioning anyway…
You can never 100% rid yourself of kittens, that’s the gamble with Pugging. Obnoxious players make it very easy to identify them almost as soon as you enter the dungeon (players who spam party chart with “guys wtf?” are my favourite.) However don’t confuse this attitude with someone who just wants to take the lead so everyone knows what’s what, and having that leader role is so very helpful for inexperienced players. I suppose if you see two or three people that are in the same guild, or seem to be friends, be wary of any condescending talk, because as you just experienced it takes just 3 clicks to send you out on your way.
And really it takes a special kind of elitist to expect anything from PuG’s, all I expect from a PuG is to stack where we stack, and not ruin any pulls with unnecessary knock backs. Oh and errr…. 3k+ AP and a non-trash profession
…..Might even ask em to ping that Berserker gear.
Oh god who am I kidding, we went through like 10 PuGs in TA once till we found two that were adequate, but in my defence, that was the smoothest PuG TA ever.
Selling TAFU slots 50g a pop!
My god. Someone who listened to us and didn’t just go all “I H8 BASURKERZ GEER I ALWAIZ CARRIE TEH BADDIEZ WERIN ZORKER GEER, I PLAE HAO I WANT!!11!1”
Am impressed.
If only I saved my post where I explained how the mods deal with flagged posts on this forum.
Edit: I really, really hate being the first post on a new page. The pressure is overwhelming >.<
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Guardian for solo-carrying if you get a trash group. Get a bad group on say, a Warrior which has 0 reflects, and you’re gonna have a bad time.
Yeah you support your team better by maximising DPS. It makes encounters quicker so there’s less chance of messing up a dodge or running out of ‘get out of jail free cards’ like reflects and Aegis. Also speed killing mobs lets you cheese past most of their attacks, like defeating the Howling King before any gravelings spawn, or Colossus before any rocks drop.
This thread… If the master of lists ‘Wukunlin’ were here I’d ask him to compile all the threads that stayed on topic. To be honest… I think he’d have a hard time.
Almost no one I know uses the DM title and I can safely say they’re a lot better than most of the fools running around with it.
Now Combat Healer is a true sign of respect.
Got it.
Tafu.
That is all.
Now hang on here, he might be wanting to gear himself up for WvW which is why he’s calculating exactly how many runs it’ll take.
If this is the case, then I recommend AC p1+3, SE p1+3, HotW p1.
If this isn’t the case, then please change your mind to Berserker gear.
Oh you’ve gone and done it now Warcry
Bismuth for the sake of retaining any Internet respect you may or may not have left, I beg you to stop. This sub-forum is a cruel and unforgiving lot when people disagree with us, and that isn’t magically going to stop even if the topic changes.
Back on topic, I just keep telling myself that dungeons would get even more broken if a dungeon team were added. Like fixing things that aren’t broken, ignoring the things that are, etc etc. I mean the crew who revamped AC did a good job IMO (conflicted feelings about path 2) but AC was close to the end on my list of dungeons that needed fixing. It was the perfect starter dungeon that coddled the low level newbies, who now have to wait until CoF to experience what should be their first dungeon.
Oh my god me too, I was all “HE’S NOT GONE, HE HASN’T ABANDONED US”
^ it’d still be a better reward:time ratio to skip all the trash.
It’s pretty easy to get 25 stacks in CoE because of the first wave of trash, then the trash before the laser, and then there’s the risen trash in p2/p3 and the destroyer trash in p3.
At the same time, I’m not sure if it’s worth compromising your DPS through Alpha 1 and legendary Golem just so you can make your DPS better for Bjarl and final Alpha. I only use it on my mesmer because night/slaying doesn’t affect phantasm DPS.
Take Force/Accuracy at the start then change to the stacking Sigil once you reach the mobs on the stairs before Alpha v2, and then change back? But really, unless you’re setting a record run it probably isn’t worth the fuss over the whole .5 seconds it’ll save.
Broad stop trying to be so scumbag elitist, it doesn’t suit you and we have too many here already. I miss the friendly Canadian those are always in short supply.
Rafi told me about that! Oh man I cringed. But you were selling slots, that’s a bit different to just Pugging CoF3, that and for some reason people suddenly feel the need to report/grief every person who is selling slots :/
“Doing fine” can have very different meanings, you might’ve been doing something wrong without noticing, ranged camping can annoy a lot of people. Other than that idunno, I suppose watch out if two or more of the group are from the same guild, and if you got griefed then it would’ve been for Dungeon Master title :/
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I don’t even change weapons once I’m at full stacks. You’re usually like 3/4 through the dungeon once you get full stacks anyway (Except for like… Arah where you can go kill spideys, oh they’re at the start of AC too)
I mean… I even have the Sigil of Force back-up Axe but I’m just lazy, and it’s not as purty as my Beacon of Light (inb4 flyswatter/spatula jokes)
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You were probs bad man. I can’t speak much of EU scum but NA generally doesn’t kick without a reason, maybe they got sick of carrying the PVT – scepter camping Guardian?
In OP’s defence, when I first started playing I always fought Kholer in the old AC. He gave terrible loot and was definitely not worth the time but I did it anyway. And when I saw people skipping him I thought they were just bad.
But it reaches a point where you just can’t be bothered anymore, the novelty of beating down optional HP sponges eventually wears off. You get some high price goals in mind such as a Legendary weapon and you realise just how counter-productive it is to kill everything in sight, when the real reward is at the end (on champs now too I suppose.)
You could form a guild dedicated to slow clear dungeons, but I can guarantee the same thing will happen to you. Trust me, wailing on the same optional mobs again and again and again gets old real quick. And as mentioned above there is a challenge to skipping some content, and I too find it a lot more fun than risking a wipe on trash.
Stop running with Rogers and Demona and run with me more often… I almost never do CoE. Arah > TA > CM > AC > CoE > SE >>> CoF >>>> … >>>> HotW is my personal order of favorite dungeons.
But yeah, it was getting pretty annoying when they farmed CoE all day. But still, I would like the 40 – 20 distribution over the 20 – 40 so I can do Arah on multiple characters and not feel like I wasted my time…
I haven’t done CoE for a while now that I think about it. I try to do TA and AC daily (DEM RECIPES), then whatever other people are doing, maybe a bit of totally legit and non exploiting Arah runs…. I’ll learn how to do it properly when you can’t bug everything xD
Also be on during Oceanic ‘master race’ hours then!
Haha I’m all for dungeon variety, but before the update it was nigh impossible to find a guild group for anything other than CoE. So despite currently not being able to rerun a path (not worth!) I’m still pro ‘anti-farm’ updates.
It used to be like, run the same dungeon over and over and over, whilst sitting there making fun of the CoF farmers, it was hypocrisy in its finest, and I’m very glad it’s no longer profitable. (Got kitten filtered there what the hell, please make a NSFW sub-forum so I can form sentences that make sense.)
However I wouldn’t mind some accurate gold rewards to be implemented ^-^
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We served 47 exploiting sellers with gw2lfg bans. Only one seller stayed untouched, he was the only one who did Lupicus…
Didn’t you help discover the exploit in the first place? Most likely doing it yourself for a period of time (and profit) and now you’re suddenly “anti-exploiting” because you can now quickly and reliably solo/duo Lupicus yourself?
First of all, lol for posting in a TAFU thread…
Second of all, and more importantly, when the dungeon revamps hit, are you actually going to adjust the gold rewards for them according to their relative difficulty, or are you keeping the newly implemented lazy system.
Also, is there any incentive to change the dungeon token DR? Maybe add 40 tokens to a path and 20 to the daily instead, so that running different paths is better, but there is still some incentive to redo paths on different characters?
> mfw LoD goes back to mindlessly farming CoE on alts and ignoring every other dungeon.
Pretty much all points have been covered already.
As a footnote, avoid Ascalonian Catacombs path 2, Sorrow’s Embrace path 2, Citadel of Flame path 3, Honour of the Waves path 2 and 3, Twilight Arbour Forward→Up until you’re more used to whole functionality of dungeons.
These are what I consider to be the “totally not worth the time and effort” paths (more so for PuGs, I mean we guild run Twilight Arbour F/U all the time) and might turn you away from dungeons if you dive straight into these “harder” paths. I suppose the same goes for any path in Arah, Lupi is not the guy you want introducing you to the concept of dodge or die xD
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