I pugged Arah p2, my lag was starting to kick in and by the time we got to Lupi I was getting rofl stomped by kicks and swipes left right and centre. Feeling bad as I had joined an “exp only melee Lupi speed $$$ run” I politely asked them to find another as I would literally need to be carried the rest of way in this state, then left party and went AFK for a bit. Upon returning I had a number of less than friendly whispers from one of the members reminding me that I was in fact the instance owner (never even occurred to me as I had only done story the day before on that character.) I apologised profusely and offered to send gold to the party members whom I had just griefed, only to find out the whole party disbanded >.<
It’s not always intentional, a long time ago I even swapped out to level an alt at the end of a dungeon as the instance owner… Thankfully it was only AC.
But I agree the instance owner setup is absurd, instances can be preserved even if everyone leaves, so the potential for a flawless system is there. There’s no need to tie it to one player, and for what? So they can appear in cutscenes that 99.99% of the player base skips in the first second?
Haha wow, I should really make a second account myself, that 1 hour flood control and loss of signature was painful. I mean what’s the point in posting if I can’t show off my pornstar names? ;D
But seriously, would the board be split like the dungeon records? As in current meta and all time, as I imagine the upcoming nerf to crit damage would make a lot of the previous records harder to beat
Okay I don’t actually know about that last one, but how on Earth do WvW’ers get enough gold to buy so many Arah paths from me
So as far as gold return goes for actually playing the game, dungeons are right at the tippy top. I suppose bouncing from one open world boss to another isn’t too bad, if you like the sensation of taking a cheese grater to your forehead for hours at a time.
“What awful advice, and if the mob/boss suddenly aggro’d onto you and broke the stack then you’ve potentially neutered your team’s DPS by 90% and risk wiping.”
No you’re just not getting it. If you break from the stack but stand close enough, round the side, the mobs won’t leave the dps field if they turn towards you. You can’t leave the stack too early, you can’t do it for mobs like the spider queen, but experience can help you pick the right times. Of course many players have no experience because they only know stacking.
No. If you were experienced you would never break the stack.
I can’t add anything else as it’s already been said.
kitten I’m one fabulous plum.
I think having the bearbow in the group during the GM run was fine, as there’s no requirement so the mentor would have to adapt to that (cough Bear pushing Kholer out of the corner cough.)
But Meta runs depend heavily on certain classes doing their job flawlessly, and dealing with a bearbow (and their unintentional mechanics) in a meta run is a situation that should just never happen. So it almost seemed kind of unfair on the MM run as there was no Guardian to be the backbone of the party. But nevertheless it was an interesting experience, despite Detha Trembletroll griefing us at the end.
Hmmm if this guild expands and becomes somewhat of a foundation of Dungeon mentoring then I think trying to put everyone’s dungeon/class specialties in the message will get a bit out of hand :/
Perhaps just a link to this thread so potential students can peruse through who does what?
Edit: I HAVE MY SIGNATURE BACK, THIS IS THE BEST DAY OF MY LIFE!!
How did you got it back? oO
Iris I took the liberty to advertise your initiative on reddit in hope that we get some more students to help out
I don’t know, it just suddenly appeared and my 1 hour flood control is gone!
Niiiiice this thread is exploding, I don’t go on Reddit myself but thank you for doing that
Would also like to clarify that all Meta/General Mentors (if specified) are competent at the likes of Arah, don’t feel like you can only ask the Arah Mentors if you’re interested in that dungeon
I agree with Anierna regarding the rate at which we’re accepting mentors, there needs to be some sort of method to find out if they’re… well… Mentor “material” I suppose.
I feel Arah mentors should be trialled in Arah before being accepted into that rank, same with Meta mentors being trialled in whatever their specialised dungeon is, which could very well be Arah as well.
I want this guild to succeed and I believe maintaining quality teachers is the best way to go (lets face it, you couldn’t count the number of arrogant know-it-alls you’ve met in PuGs than run around preaching their cleric Guard staff camping who couldn’t drop a reflect to save their life.)
So you kick support guardians? The main build of the guardian is support/heal with Mace+Shield and Staff. AH build is Staff/Gs. The only build you are considering is the one with Sword/Focus + Gs, that is completely useless, because the high damage (less than a war, mesmer or Ele) comes at the cost of condition removal, heal and boons for party. And a guard with no such support skills is like a War without his big damage coming from GS2.
The question on ranger is: Range is useless in this game, until the stacking warrior hundred blades system is up. Melee Rangers are DPS, but less than a warrior. So, the “pros” of the game don’t want such style of gameplay. Anet understand this and is trying to fixing this way to play this game.
In Italy we say “The mother of the idiots is Always pregnant” so, u’ll Always find who kick you because u are a Ranger. Also if u got spotter build, Jaguar, Sword+horn/Sword+axe, Frost spirit, healing spring and so on.
Sorry for my english, see you soon!
Stampede, 3500 hours of game maining a support guardian, never been kicked from a party. Support is a reality. Only idiots thinks that this game is all about zerk gear!
> Guardian damage worse than Mesmer
> Worse than Mesmer
> Worse than Mesmer
Thank you official forums, now I can accurately state “I’ve heard it all”.
Any support needed from a Guardian is brought via Utilities and Traits, all of which a Berserker Guard has access to.
But as I re read your post I get the strong feeling that I’m being trolled so w/e.
If my party can’t kill Champ Wolf before it drops its PBAoEs again then it’s a good indicator to leave party and find a better group
I prefer mesmer to bait out the champ wolfs attacks.
If we’re going down that path I’d rather use my Bear pet to aggro it.
Not even joking, Mr Wolf doesn’t feel threatened by harmless little kitties and uses his psychic powers to detect my presence behind the corner
It looks like you’ve run into the typical dungeon tactics created by heavy classes for heavy classes. It makes everyone else look rubbish so even more people take heavies.
My tip for boss stacking would be to make sure the mobs are in place and then drift off the stack to a safer spot, perhaps round the rear of them or just out of melee (with your bombs). If you’re still sharing buffs, dishing out the aoe damage, etc then it can be a lot better but your team mates might not be understanding if you go down. The more exploitative the stacking less the freedom you have to move off, typically.
What awful advice, and if the mob/boss suddenly aggro’d onto you and broke the stack then you’ve potentially neutered your team’s DPS by 90% and risk wiping.
I stack all the time on my Berserker Ele (squishiest class in game) just fine, and in fact encounters like Subject Alpha (p1 and p3) you’re actually safer by stacking inside him as you avoid his Teeth of Mordremoth attack (actually finding this harder to do, stealth buff? o.O )
Then of course you’ve got Spider Queen from AC where breaking the stack can cause her to drop poison and wipe your team.
People stack for a reason and there is no excuse for breaking it because “I’m not a Warrior”. Stacking can be, and is, done with squishy classes quite often.
Even a full meta Ranger won’t bring as much to the table as an Elementalist. Sure I’d take a Ranger over an extra Warrior as banners can be covered with just one, but Eles are where it’s at (which is more of a problem with Eles insane DPS than anything else.)
There’s absolutely no reason to stack Guardians in dungeons, maybe in fractals for epic lazy times
As for stacking Warriors well, it is pretty safe to assume that even a pug can survive with the highest HP pool, the best heal skill in game, and the absolutely easiest access to delivering strong DPS (not the best, but strong nonetheless.)
Ice Elementals in CoE give you at least 3 seconds warning, a huge cone shaped ice AoE, and a very distinct sound effect to dodge away. The attack can be reflected so it’s usually not an issue.
J Eberle was halfway there, Champ Wolf has two attacks that will one shot a Berserker, the Ice attack and Earth attack (forget their names) but they’re just instant cast PBAoEs, generally used in succession (most of the time). Safest way is too let Spire tank both, before aggroing it. Also a Guardian has the easiest way of baiting it out by comboing dodge rolls, Shelter, Focus 5, and possibly even Renewed Focus until both attacks have been delivered in which you’re all clear for roughly 30-35 seconds which should be more than enough for a zerk team to melt him.
As for Kholer, even if his scorpion wire is reflected/absorbed he will still do his spinning blades of death. For reflection to work he must not have any stacks of Defiance which means you’re team cannot use any CC during the fight, this way when he does scorpion wire, he will interrupt his own attack.
There are situations where the number of wires reflected is enough to wipe his stacks of Defiance and interrupt him anyway but I find this very unreliable as it means everyone must be perfectly positioned (and some nice RNG) as opposed to only needing one scorpion wire to get reflected.
Hmmm if this guild expands and becomes somewhat of a foundation of Dungeon mentoring then I think trying to put everyone’s dungeon/class specialties in the message will get a bit out of hand :/
Perhaps just a link to this thread so potential students can peruse through who does what?
Edit: I HAVE MY SIGNATURE BACK, THIS IS THE BEST DAY OF MY LIFE!!
You’re joking right? I love dying to Ooze in Arah P1 when my F button prioritises spamming chat with Varra instead of picking up the Orb so I can teleport out.
Oh and you wanted that banner at your next encounter too? Here, have a dialogue box open in your face a thousand times instead.
I request Zerker because I want to teach, not carry
I even accept Rare tier which is what? 30s a piece? Even the most casual players have that much, and it’s really not a great deal worse than Exotic.
25/30/0/0/15
Mug is garbage and doesn’t crit, go Sundering Strikes and Dagger Training or change to Improvisation if you know you’re going to be using Fiery Greatsword.
Side Strike, Critical Haste, Executioner. Signet CD reduction isn’t worth as you pop Assassins Signet at the end of combat and should never pop Signet of Malice or Signet of Agility (unless you absolutely need the burst heal/condi cleanse.)
In ideal circumstances where Fury is provided take Flanking Strikes, otherwise take Thrill of the Crime.
An alternative is 30/30/0/0/10 but there isn’t a worthwhile Grandmaster trait so it’s really it’s just 3 initiative vs 50 power, I prefer the initiative.
DPS rotation is CnD + Backstab + auto attack chain, first two hits of the next auto attack chain that hit very quickly then repeat CnD again, do this until 50% HP.
Below 50% HP you replace CnD + Backstab with two Heartseekers.
When the boss’ health is at a burstable level (e.g 10-15% or so depending on the boss) you pop Assassin’s Signet, Haste (if slotted), and Heart Seeker spam, this burst can only be beaten in DPS by the likes of Fiery Greatsword or reflects and will put any Warrior’s Eviscerate to shame. Of course you’ll only have Haste on your bar if you weren’t needed for any utility (e.g smoke screen or Shadow Refuge still on CD) as Assassin’s Signet and Signet of Agility take priority.
An added note Signet of Malice procs on every hit, not every attack, so things like sword cleave, cluster bomb, Daggerstorm (against multiple targets) and FIERY RUSH will make you kitten near invincible.
Good luck Thieferino!
Edit: I should expand, it’s better to maintain CnD rotation until 25% health if you’re actually getting backstabs which is difficult against LoS’ed targets or ones pushed to the wall as trying to manoeuvre around them can end badly. However if you can get the backstabs in (e.g Lupi, Belka, Brie) then continue until 25%
Goes to show how ridiculous a class can be when some people consider alternate armour sets <_<
Though I feel somewhat useful being able to swap to Mes for a few minutes when we roll Dredge now xD
Best Mesmer NA right here, had the smoothest SE runs, I may or may not have caused a wipe… Jokes!
I caused multiple!
I couldn’t even do that p3 bridge skip, every class I’ve played has blocks in one form or another, or ungodly mobility in lieu of that (Thief) but a Mesmer is just… A short burst of swiftness, a singular blink, and if you’re still in the firing range after that well RIP in peace.
Ah … I’ll get there eventually haha
Retreat is just good for the party. Aegis will tank one tick of Chaos Storm, potentially saving a member half their health, I’m not sure if it’s a latency issue or what but I always get ticked once by Chaos Storm :/
I’m not a fan of Staff in skips, no one likes waiting around in a symbol and trying to get PuGs to stand inside it is just never going to happen, that and there really isn’t a definitive bottleneck where you can stop every single mob (like there is with AC p1 skip to the boss) as there’s mobs after the mini oozes that take forever to break aggro as well.
If I’m absolutely on my own for Swiftness cough every Warrior ever that doesn’t know what a Warhorn is cough then I take Save Yourself. Sure the CD’s are long but we usually muck around for a while after the skip waiting for mobs to leash or killing the persistent ones, waiting for others to do the skip, etc.
Somewhat back on topic, Arah p1 and p2 in that order IMO are easiest. Since the jumping puzzle that let you start at Lupi in both p3 and p4 has been nerfed (until a new skip is found) I don’t really see them to be worth the time. I forever hold disdain towards the Hunter Crusher fight and its use of poison clouds that destroy my FPS
But oh man JI and Sword 2 best mobility, I felt so sluggish learning Guardian with my singular leap skill on an eternal CD, now I know what real pain is trying to learn Mesmer <_<
Retreat from the get go, round corner, Shelter through silvers, chain Sword 2 and Judge’s Intervention up to the Lesser Ooze’s, Focus 5 through them for safe measure, GS 3 once I’m far enough through to not put myself in combat
If I do it right the left Drakes won’t have aggro’d, and the first few will spit their poison somewhere off to the right near the cliff after I teleport, leaving a clean(ish) path for those walking up the left. Keeping left to pop Jotun once I’m in, burying the left side in poison but keeping the middle clear.
Of course if I’m in a guild run then I just yolo through and aggro everything, a small sentiment of revenge for the hundreds of times I’ve had to deal with their back aggro
The p1 trash skip isn’t that hard provided
A) There aren’t lingering Oozes/eye turrets in the Champ ooze area, having to burn some mobility or blocks/evades there can really set you back as you run into the mobs.
B) You’re not dealing with back aggro, back aggro in any trash skip makes it infinitely harder (which is why I usually despise GS Warriors who yolo in without a care in the world, leaving slower professions to get picked off by the disorganised shamble of chaos left in their wake.) By all means, use your Rush and Whirl, ONCE WE’RE PAST THE BULK.
> Cue poison clouds as far as the eye can see reducing your FPS to a standstill.
I’m inclined to believe Dragon Tooth happens when he aggros onto Spire and as she is at range, he summons Dragon Tooth on her (and in turn everyone stacked up which Aegis would do diddly squat to prevent as there’s usually more than one, not to mention you should be saving Aegis for the Fire attack.) So it’s not our LoS spot, it’s ensuring we aggro him before Spire. But you dodge it the exact same way you dodge the Ice attack so I don’t really see the problem.
Why NPC’s are still in dungeons is beyond me, seriously think back. How many times has Detha bugged out? How many times has Hodgins brought Breeders into the boss area? How many times has Lupi Shadow Stepped to or DOMED an NPC? How many times has Warden Ilya (?) been left dead somewhere back near the spiders as you all wait by Wraithlord’s spawn? How many times has that stupid Norn in P1 prevented you from having a smooth Ooze orb run? How many times has that same stupid Norn held aggro of everything and take an ungodly long time to die? People ask for dungeon hard mode, we’re playing it people, the added difficulty just isn’t conventional.
/rant
Back on topic, wall jumping ftw! Me and Winston pugged all paths and killed Alpha before they got into the room
Replying to you here, dat one hour flood control.
It’s definitely Spire, cause he’ll sometimes do Dragon Tooth during the encounter after the stairs with silver mobs. Though we aggro him there, he just likes to switch to Spire
> Cue final alpha p3 where he crystals Spire and refuses to move until she dies/you break her free.
Yeah good idea. Just a “Specialised at: xxx” question before the message. I only threw in which professions I’m knowledgable at because if a Necro waltzed in I honestly wouldn’t know how to incorporate their class into what I know about the dungeon, other than “please don’t Fear everything away”
What the hell, my play times are still a bit whacked but I’ll help where I can.
North America
Mentor name: Dolan.3071 [LOD]
Active dungeons: All, Arah being my favourite. (No fractals)
I’m also available as a Lupi duo partner if people want to practice the funnest boss in game
Availability: I’m oceanic timezone myself (GMT+10) and I’ll most likely be available during weekends, however feel free to try me throughout the week.
Languages: English
Contact: In-Game Mail
Communication: Party chat or TeamSpeak.
Message: “As a standard I expect players to be running the current meta builds, as well as being geared in full Berserker (Rare absolute lowest tier). There’s no point learning in a manner that doesn’t befit speedrun tactics.
I am experienced at and can offer advice regarding Warrior, Thief, Ele, Guardian and Ranger. My Mesmer knowledge is limited and I wouldn’t have a clue about Necro and Engineer”
Warrior with Healing Signet is without a doubt the tankiest profession available when geared for optimal damage.
All traps before the long gauntlet can be jumped around easily, or just tanked as long as you are OOC, and the gauntlet after Spider Queen is just a matter of timing. Just keep to either the left or right, and run past as each trap fades, when keeping to the left after the first two or three the rest will disappear at the same time, giving you a clean shot at rushing or whirling to the top.
As for the Gargoyle Heads, they shouldn’t give you grief during Spider Queen if you’re stacking near the stairs, and running past them is just a matter of timing your dodge or letting someone else run ahead. Unless by fire traps you mean the ones on the stairs themselves which you shouldn’t be running down anyway, or the ones on the way to Defend Hodgins (p1) which is incredibly easy to Rush or Whirl past after they’ve done their little fireworks display.
My average map completion for alts is to the first WP in any dungeon map, and a beeline to the Temple WP’s and it’s usually uncontested neighbour (e.g Lights Waypoint) as well as typical meta waypoints like Earthquake and Old Sledge Site.
I always thought you were meant to learn professions as you levelled them via map completion, glad to see I’m not the only one who disagrees xD
Because teaching people who barely know their own class
How was i able to teach you then?
OI YOU LISTEN ‘ERE MUTT.
I knew the dungeon, not the class, it’s different :P
AND WE WERE ON TS, AND IM AWESOME, GOD.
Level alts via swapping in at the end of dungeon, completely gear in full Zerker scholar, ascended trinkets, stacking and night/undead/force combos for weapons, then learn the profession. That’s how you do it right?…Right?
Dolan, skilled doesn’t mean efficient. I’m aware that i’m not the most faster or I don’t have the best build. However I know my enemies skills and how to time my dodges/skills to make me almost impossible to kill.
Playing good, not dying, positional awareness, swapping weapons to maximize skills and creating combos on the fly, adapting to the fights without dying and learning how an AI works… that’s what makes a player skilled. Their build is the less important part of a player, the build would only reduce or increase the time killing something.
If I can solo Lupicus and takes me 20 minutes, against someone that solo it in 10 minutes, would that mean that i’m not skilled? Of course not, skilled players can have a “how we want” build. The build doesn’t affect the skill of the player, just the amount of time doing X content.
Skilled 1. Having or showing the knowledge, ability, or training to perform a certain activity or task well.
Skilled does not mean being able to complete a task. Skilled means being able to do it well, and completing a task substantially slower than someone else is not doing it well.
Just look at the workplace, a skilled employee will perform the same duty, to the same quality as someone else, in a fraction of the time. It is this quality that makes someone skilled.
But I get it, you love your condi build, you love getting carried, let’s all just play how we want.
Hey Dolan, come and help teach new players. Then you’ll see hope ;-)
Haha I’ve done a few full PuG Arah teaching runs with all first timers and just… It took a lot out of me. If I were to do it again I would have to have some requirements, like min AP + Berserker gear. Because teaching people who barely know their own class, whose only weapon is a singular ranged weapon with a mix of green and blue armour is just… I can’t. If I’m willing to teach they’ll have to be willing to learn
My main is a Warrior using Bow and a condition damage/duration armour set build. That’s not common, i know, but it works for me… pretty well. I’ve seen groups of 4 zerkers trying to clean some trash mobs in Arah and wipe extremely fast, and thats why they skip the monsters in the next attempt. Here with my condition ranged build? I soloed that trash pull in their face.
I wrote a long spiel on everything that was wrong with this statement. I then deleted it after realising you’re just a PuG who plays how he wants. And you’re even posting in a thread about skillful players, trying to brag , and bashing how other people enjoy the game.
My god, this game, no hope for a dungeon team, no hope for the player base.
Why do I come here?
I need reliable internet to be good at PvP, being 1 second behind my opponent in a first person shooter is impossible, the same rule applies here.
Whereas in PvE slow, scripted attacks make the delay meaningless as long as I know it’s coming. That and lag spikes don’t (always) instantly kill me in PvE.
And of course class balance in this game is a kittening joke.
Atse pls,
You can’t compare Thief DPS to a Warrior’s in PuGs.
Warrior can easily self sustain Fury, decent amount of Might, and Banner buffs.
Thief can easily self sustain 10 seconds of Fury every 30 seconds or so… at the cost of 5% flanking damage.
You need to be in a party that can give you that Might/Fury/Banner buffs and then you can compare DPS, and when you’ve seen a Thief dish out 6 pseudo-Eviscerates in a second you’ll see what we’re all on about.
Also Ele has god tier damage, if you haven’t realised that by now then I really don’t know what to say. Expecting PuG Ele’s to be good is like expecting a PuG anything to be good, yes I’m looking at you Shout Heal, GS auto attacking Warriors.
I don’t PuG. I would rather duo a path with a guildie than PuG, and chances are the run will be more successful thanks to that decision.
As the name of the game suggests, looking for a Guild that suits you is a very good way to go. Everything is more enjoyable with friends, and even if you do have to PuG from time to time you’ll probably find you have more patience to deal with people as opposed to Pugging all day erryday.
Force + Night is a well rounded set to switch to after stacking, working in every dungeon except Arah, CM and HotW.
If you’re keen on these night time dungeons then replacing Force with a Slayer Sigil is a good move, albeit a waste of time in CoE due to the variety of enemies.
I personally have double bloodlust on all characters, and double perception on classes that struggle to maintain their own fury (so anything other than Warrior really) for solo play or Pugging.
Once I’ve stacked, I switch to Force + Night if it’s a nighttime dungeon, or Force + Undead if it’s Arah, clearly I lose damage if I enter CM or HotW but I rarely run those anyway.
I’ve seen people use Accuracy but I just don’t see it trumping such hefty damage modifiers.
Oh boy a support Necro. 2014 isn’t going to get any better is it?
On topic, if I pug I would never join “warrior only” parties. “Full berserker+melee only” sure but players that can’t comprehend what other professions can bring to the table aren’t worth grouping with. That said, my hopes are always crushed when an Ele joins and they camp at 1200 range with a staff on whatever stupid attunement with a kitten Greater Elemental following them around.
I know it, and usually show people who don’t know it, as well as the p3 and p4 skip from the start to Lupi. Don’t blame me, blame Anet for breaking things that weren’t broken and leaving the broken things as they were.
But then I’ll never be able to level my alts
Seriously though they could have at least put them right after/before certain encounters, not right in the middle of trash skips. I’m looking at you Arah p3, getting a bugged cutscene and instantly dying to spiders is no bueno.
The entire part of the guide is just for warriors only. Traits/slotskills and so on. So it´s not just a warrior PoV it´s a guide for warriors.
If you re read it you’ll see an explanation of Lupicus’ attacks, quick it’s still there!
This alone is worthy of the “solo Lupi guide” title, the Warrior specifics is an added bonus and also the most helpful seeing as it’s the easiest class to learn him on. Also anyone with the slightest understanding of their class should be able to figure out their most viable evade/block equivalents.
I don’t understand hating on a guide for using “easy” tactics which
A ) really isn’t that easy compared to 90% of GW2 content and
B ) is clearly aimed at new/inexperienced players.
Also a step by step guide for every single class would be a crazy long thread, but your best bet would be watching the videos in the Compilation of Lupicus Speedclears thread.
Forum:
A meeting or medium where ideas and views on a particular issue can be exchanged.
So coming here demanding no opinions is, in itself, an oxymoron. I’ll even let you google that one yourself.
To answer your already answered question, your support ticket response is only relevant if the paths are being bought with real life currency. The use of in game currency is very much allowed so long as people were not kicked in order to free up the slots. This still has nothing to do with the selling of slots, rather griefing people out of their deserved reward. This is not an opinion, this is a fact.
I personally play 20/25/0/10/15 on full berserker. I wear runes and one platinum doubloon that gives me 59% boon. On Discipline, I go for reduce signet cooldown instead of the usual 25% movement speed. On tactics, which give me boon duration of another 10%, i select inspiring banners. This gives 1/2 sec cooldown on my elite signet which puts me warrior at a consistent 95% critical chance and since i am all berserker, my critical damage is 80%. If needed, i can put down a discipline banner that pushes my critical damage to 95%. So, the up time of all these is very long. 1/2 sec cooldown on elite signet and 6 secs cooldown on disipline banner. To me, i think this is the best PvE setup. I run GS and bow. Bow is used in situation when i cannot melee at that moment.
Most dungeons have sections of running between battles which usually goes neatly in with the banner CD, so Inspiring Banners (10 in tactics) isn’t necessary.
Running Axe/Mace + Greatsword rotation is far better than maining Greatsword and there are only a very few situations where ranging will be “better” than melee, namely fractals. In which case you just swap out GS for Longbow and drop Forceful Greatsword (change Slashing Power to Axe Mastery) if you haven’t already.
Pure Axe/Mace > Pure Greatsword
Yup 30/25/0/0/15.
Swap out Forceful Greatsword for Rending Strikes if capping Might isn’t an issue ~ e.g (good) Eles in the party.
Full Zerker takes some getting used to but with the evade on Whirl, highest base HP in game and the most broken heal skill (Healing Signet) Warrior is definitely the best class to learn on.
This sounds like just the guild for me. My wallet is feeling a little bloated lately from all the dungeons I chain in such a short time. If I was able to stem the flow of wealth a little bit I might start feeling like regular common folk again!
Should probably go Guardian, or even Warrior
Thief is awesome, really really strong, but both heavy classes bring so much more team utilty and about as much damage as thief (1k-3k difference without boons)
your joking right? a thief can easily double a warriors damage on single targets
I wouldn’t go that far, but yeah Thief single target deeps is pretty kitten good. People just don’t notice it as much because on Warrior it’s more or less just mash 1 to deal optimal damage, whereas on Thief more of the damage comes from landing backstabs and Heartseekers.
So really it’s much more reasonable to expect a PuG to be able to mash 1, and therefore a much safer bet to take a PuG Warr over a Thief.
and my 1 hour flood control is gone!
