These guys are a serious pain in the kitten with their small group ops. Join them
Will these return? I REALLY want to try them out on my guardian, but I’m not willing to dish out over 200 gold for a set. That just seems ridiculous to me. Any chance they will come back so us not so rich WvWers can get a chance to use the gear?
Not really except in Tier 1 they like to brings numbers when they fight you. Half my experiences are something along the lines of:
Find a solid 1v1, 1v2, I’m doing pretty well
Halfway into the fight, another guy comes in, that’s fine, I can handle 3
A minute later – now it’s a 1v10. How did that happen?
Next second I’m on the ground and they’re all /laughing at how bad I am
Should just make it so venoms will remove boons. Then thieves can be useful in the zerg w/ venomshare and we now have an incentive to use it while roaming.
Breadgate is still a way better name than Beastgate
Against a good necro it’s difficult when running a DPS melee build. I do not recommend using D/X or S/X. Reason being is that they have a TON of aoe in the form of traps. They can stand in them all day. Well emit constant blindness as well, so it’s hard landing the CnD. I recommend using SB.
What happened to [KISS] from the EU timeslot?
They are still here and kicking kitten , however I don’t think they supplied a bio(or forgot xD).
1V1s, pm in game
I think this thread being moved was a good idea. The devs, if anything, are hinting at an external GvG arena, such like sPvP(but suited to the GvG community of course). Acknowledging GvG outside of WvW is the first step we need to take to get this GvG arena going.
Make this area the unofficial GvG forum, and we’ll see results.
While we may complain about this matchup being stagnant as hell, it is the most competitive WvW that we’re likely to get in its current stage. Think of map politics this way (presuming everyone plays for first);
JQ: Strong SEA/Mod NA/Weak EU/Weak OC (1 strong, one mod and 2 weak)
BG: Mod SEA/Mod NA/Mod EU/Mod OC (4 moderately pop’ed)
SoR: Mod SEA/Strong NA/Strong EU/Mod OC (2 strong, 2 moderate)SEA: JQ comes out ahead, SoR and BG fight over ppt and is often a stalemate (JQ++)
NA: SoR comes out ahead, JQ and BG fight over ppt and is often a stalemate (SoR+)
EU: SoR comes out ahead, BG leeches JQ points (SoR++; JQ-, BG +)
OC: SoR and BG come out ahead, and both leech JQ points (JQ-; BG/SoR +)On paper SoR should always win via coverage, BG coming in second and JQ last – why is this never the case, well its to do with server politics. Its in JQs best interest to buddy up with either side because in that way JQ has less points that are leeched off by either BG or SoR (in oceanic for BG, EU/NA for SoR) – they have used this strat ever since the ET/HoD days where JQ would double team ET so that JQ would get a guaranteed 1st or 2nd place.
In a three way there is always a server that in reality is stronger than coverage than JQ but you have to give them credit, they are good at the politics game. Also it doesn’t hurt that BG and SoR generally don’t play nice to turn the tables back on JQ.
Comparing API from last week to weeks prior (thanks neli for fixing these up):
*2v1 on SoR
(33) https://docs.google.com/spreadsheet/ccc?key=0ArqZ3AWECmvVdHJiX2tYZXpYYnhvVjhxeFNNaDZtcmc#gid=1*2v1 on BG
(32) https://docs.google.com/spreadsheet/ccc?key=0ArqZ3AWECmvVdDloMEozRlhIcUJiMjR2bjhWbFA0M0E#gid=1
I’d disagree with both BG SEA and SoR SEA both being classified as moderate. Although SoR SEA are still great gents, as of late, especially since AFS no longer plays, SoR SEA’s numbers are lacking. The TC-DB/BG/SoR matchup showed a pretty substantial difference in SEA coverage. At the very minimum I would classify BG SEA as moderately strong(inbetween strong and moderate). Also BG’s NA is alot stronger than JQ’s, IMO. Simply having 3 classifications isn’t accurate enough. Also not all timezones last the same duration. Then you’d have to guage how strong is moderate. Being able to hold your shard(~220PPT) during your weak zone is different than ticking at 100 during your weak zone. It isn’t as simple as, say, Strong EU/NA cancel out Strong OCX/SEA. It’s much more complicated than that.
These are my opinions. Take them with a grain of salt, or w/e you please.
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Anyone know what happened to BT? Haven’t seen them in force in a long time.
You went down, you already lost, getting stomped whilst it’s covered by invuln, stability, or stealth is not the source of the problem. It’s like complaining that the guy who just hit a homerun gets to run the bases and you cant do anything about it.
Exactly. If you get downed by anyone, you deserve to die. That’s how the game should work. Removing special stomps only promotes bad players with better downed abilites or people who got downed in a Xv1 and use numbers to triumph skill. If I were to have a say, I’d promote removing the downed state from the game. No reason why numbers/abilities like vengeance/pet heal should give you the advantage after the other players already downed you.
Invul/stability/stealth/block/blind stomp need to stay in this game.
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Funny. we just lost an upgraded Bay on our BL to maguuma because they were able to have AC hit all long the roof at inner south gate where our AC were. I understand that the ACs along the walls are vulnerable, but there should have been no way that they could have reached the roof section inside the walls without cheating.
There’s a hole in the gate you can see through which easily allows ACs to hit that area. I find that most of the times people complain about zoom hacks, it’s actually just a spot they were unaware of. I know a few of these great spots too.
I use these on my thief. D/P headshot spam/P/D scorp wire/basilik. It’s a little too powerful. Needs a 10 second ICD.
Free trial weekend means trolls will be here in bulk. Should go away soon enough. Today we had an obvious spy in our TS/ZERG, although we didn’t really know who. From the looks of it most servers are having the same problem.
I have a disdain for people who think winning WvW matchups = milestone/skill. Doesn’t make sense to me, but W/E.
After using this rune and winning a bunch of 1v2s, 1v3s, and even a 1v5 using runes of perplex. + scorp wire + basilik on a p/d set…this thing is definitely really powerful. They should change the interrupt to apply 2 stacks, and the #4 of the rune to apply 5 stacks. CC builds won’t hurt that much, but the rune will still be viable. You also won’t be able to spam 25 stacks of confusion. A nerf that changes the interrupt to 1 stack is too big a nerf, though. The rune would be useless at that point.
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Runes of perplexity + D/P headshot. It’s not that great with headshot since it’s easily condi cleared, but a REALLY good thief, who has his timing down, using P/D w/ scorp wire & basilik can really mess your day up.
Thiefs in general are OP, didn’t you know?
They’re practically godmode.GW2 is OP
OP IS GW2
I thought thieves didn’t have good enough interrupts to do that. This thread has enlightened me. Thanks. Gonna go get me a set now.
There used to be a major game breaking glitch where CnDing off walls stacked stealth and didn’t give revealed. Luckily they patched the exploit part of it. CnDing off walls remained, though, so I’m going to assume, since it wasn’t patched that it’s legit.
People who want a sterile room with two zergs in it should have nothing to do with WvW.
Most of the hardcore WvW guilds are the ones that want GvG. Are you saying that these guilds should have nothing to do with WvW?
If they were to ever make a GvG arena it should be like sPvP in that all non 80s are boosted to level 80, and all the gear should be free, however at the same time we should be able to use PvE gear (mixing and matching armor pieces, not amulets with one stat type)
If you just want to check out the community, make a trial account and join us in TS. We don’t bite!
D/P is alright. I still prefer D/D in most cases. Even P/D can really screw up D/P users w/ trickster trait @ 16cd scorpion wire to pull them out of the BP, or basilik venom.
Good fights SoR BL. Pro/WvW/JinX/Icoa
Lol this guy is from Dragonbrand. My guess is SoR or BG has approached his guild and is offering to pay them. I know SoR has been making their rounds with the oceanic/sea guilds in T2 recently, not too sure whether BG has been doing it as well (though I wouldn’t be surprised if they were).
The state of NA T1 is just plain sad.
SoR doesn’t buy guilds, so it’s probably BG.
BG has already picked up 2 SEA guilds and a EU guild, what’s one more.
Well you did pay WARD to transfer from JQ. Are you going to say that is false?
WARD and ACO both transferred on their own. Whatever you are smoking send it our way.
Ask them yourself.
I still talk to them lol. It was agreed their transfer would be paid. I don’t mind sharing my smoke with you dawg!
You said it yourself. Stop spreading lies. I know these guys personally. We didn’t “buy” them. We didn’t even need another NA guild. Why would we buy them?
You know no one from the looks of it. You did need NA guilds. As was told to me by WARD, you were seeking them out because you were losing TSYM as a large guild force. Which you did. I got the real facts for days. Many of us are tired of the manipulation and “dirty politics”.
I play with these guys everyday. I trust them over your “sources”. In the end, I play on this server, and I know more about it’s peoples, values, and decisions more than you. FYI, TSYM has been “out” for awhile, but we didn’t need another NA guild. CHOO/TW/FEAR/HEL/HL is more than enough for 4 BLs. That doesn’t even include the smaller guilds that frequently WvW or the massive PvX guilds such as LUN and GSCH.
I don’t make random accusations at JQ from random “sources”, neither should anyone else, whether that person be SoR/JQ/BG. I would appreciate it if you stopped spreading baseless rumors because “someone from SoR” told you something.
My sources were them lol. I have known them quite a bit longer. My point was that core guilds from one server need to quit accusing another server of things that many servers do, and quit acting like they do not. I rarely post negative in any way. I understand trolling and forum trolling very well. Key guilds that should be honorable should not be accusing other servers of things.
If you want trolls to stop spreading rumors then don’t do it yourself. Lead by example.
I am. Everything I said was a fact.
I give up. If you want to insist you’re right because a “source” on SoR told you something, go ahead and post. I’m done replying to this nonsense. I don’t post crap about JQ because someone from JQ told me something. Neither should you. HzH is classier than that.
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Lol this guy is from Dragonbrand. My guess is SoR or BG has approached his guild and is offering to pay them. I know SoR has been making their rounds with the oceanic/sea guilds in T2 recently, not too sure whether BG has been doing it as well (though I wouldn’t be surprised if they were).
The state of NA T1 is just plain sad.
SoR doesn’t buy guilds, so it’s probably BG.
BG has already picked up 2 SEA guilds and a EU guild, what’s one more.
Well you did pay WARD to transfer from JQ. Are you going to say that is false?
WARD and ACO both transferred on their own. Whatever you are smoking send it our way.
Ask them yourself.
I still talk to them lol. It was agreed their transfer would be paid. I don’t mind sharing my smoke with you dawg!
You said it yourself. Stop spreading lies. I know these guys personally. We didn’t “buy” them. We didn’t even need another NA guild. Why would we buy them?
You know no one from the looks of it. You did need NA guilds. As was told to me by WARD, you were seeking them out because you were losing TSYM as a large guild force. Which you did. I got the real facts for days. Many of us are tired of the manipulation and “dirty politics”.
I play with these guys everyday. I trust them over your “sources”. In the end, I play on this server, and I know more about it’s peoples, values, and decisions more than you. FYI, TSYM has been “out” for awhile, but we didn’t need another NA guild. CHOO/TW/FEAR/HEL/HL is more than enough for 4 BLs. That doesn’t even include the smaller guilds that frequently WvW or the massive PvX guilds such as LUN and GSCH.
I don’t make random accusations at JQ from random “sources”, neither should anyone else, whether that person be SoR/JQ/BG. I would appreciate it if you stopped spreading baseless rumors because “someone from SoR” told you something.
My sources were them lol. I have known them quite a bit longer. My point was that core guilds from one server need to quit accusing another server of things that many servers do, and quit acting like they do not. I rarely post negative in any way. I understand trolling and forum trolling very well. Key guilds that should be honorable should not be accusing other servers of things.
If you want trolls to stop spreading rumors then don’t do it yourself. Lead by example.
He downed you first. He should get the kill, not the other way around.
People need to shut the hell up already. Seriously, this is pathetic, LOL.
Looking for 1v1s. Whisper me in game…don’t post on the forums I rarely read this crap anymore.
Im at work but i would mind a 1v1 in 5 hours.
Would or wouldn’t? :P
People need to shut the hell up already. Seriously, this is pathetic, LOL.
Looking for 1v1s. Whisper me in game…don’t post on the forums I rarely read this crap anymore.
Assuming by overall you mean roaming/zerg/small group
I would say ELES are by far the best choice. D/D ele roaming is great, as well as Staff or D/D ele for zerging and scepter/Dagger for small group.
Ele>Guardian>Necromancer>Mesmer>Warrior>Engi/Thief>Ranger
Roaming would be something like
Thief > Mesmer > Ele/Engi > Warrior/Ranger > Necro/Guard
WvW Zerging
Necro/Guard > Ele/Warrior > Mesmer > Engi/Thief/Ranger
I don’t see any “childish behaviours”…
The funny thing is that SoR Can get 2v1’d, and BG can get 2v1’d, but JQ will never get 2v1’d in this matchup. SoR and BG hate each other too much to make a prolonged 2v1 across the board for the entire week.
Lol this guy is from Dragonbrand. My guess is SoR or BG has approached his guild and is offering to pay them. I know SoR has been making their rounds with the oceanic/sea guilds in T2 recently, not too sure whether BG has been doing it as well (though I wouldn’t be surprised if they were).
The state of NA T1 is just plain sad.
SoR doesn’t buy guilds, so it’s probably BG.
BG has already picked up 2 SEA guilds and a EU guild, what’s one more.
Well you did pay WARD to transfer from JQ. Are you going to say that is false?
WARD and ACO both transferred on their own. Whatever you are smoking send it our way.
Ask them yourself.
I still talk to them lol. It was agreed their transfer would be paid. I don’t mind sharing my smoke with you dawg!
You said it yourself. Stop spreading lies. I know these guys personally. We didn’t “buy” them. We didn’t even need another NA guild. Why would we buy them?
You know no one from the looks of it. You did need NA guilds. As was told to me by WARD, you were seeking them out because you were losing TSYM as a large guild force. Which you did. I got the real facts for days. Many of us are tired of the manipulation and “dirty politics”.
I play with these guys everyday. I trust them over your “sources”. In the end, I play on this server, and I know more about it’s peoples, values, and decisions more than you. FYI, TSYM has been “out” for awhile, but we didn’t need another NA guild. CHOO/TW/FEAR/HEL/HL is more than enough for 4 BLs. That doesn’t even include the smaller guilds that frequently WvW or the massive PvX guilds such as LUN and GSCH.
I don’t make random accusations at JQ from random “sources”, neither should anyone else, whether that person be SoR/JQ/BG. I would appreciate it if you stopped spreading baseless rumors because “someone from SoR” told you something.
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Lol this guy is from Dragonbrand. My guess is SoR or BG has approached his guild and is offering to pay them. I know SoR has been making their rounds with the oceanic/sea guilds in T2 recently, not too sure whether BG has been doing it as well (though I wouldn’t be surprised if they were).
The state of NA T1 is just plain sad.
SoR doesn’t buy guilds, so it’s probably BG.
BG has already picked up 2 SEA guilds and a EU guild, what’s one more.
Well you did pay WARD to transfer from JQ. Are you going to say that is false?
WARD and ACO both transferred on their own. Whatever you are smoking send it our way.
Ask them yourself.
I still talk to them lol. It was agreed their transfer would be paid. I don’t mind sharing my smoke with you dawg!
You said it yourself. Stop spreading lies. I know these guys personally. We didn’t “buy” them. We didn’t even need another NA guild. Why would we buy them?
Engi’s work very well with most roaming professions. Personal favorite are engis/mesmers ,engis/necros, and engis/gardians
I hate to be “that guy” who bumps, however Sanctum of Rall is still looking for more Oceanic and SEA guilds. You can whisper fannwong and we will work from there.
Thanks.
No because most of that point flipping was during oceanic/sea/EU. This is coming from someone that remembers the point in time you were talking about.
Also that week coincides with the PvE patch, the day in which TC was nowhere to be seen in wvw and when SoR gained a huge amount of points.
If it was on the floor above people would just build 10 ACs. I’ve seen it before in a farm. Doesn’t even matter if you’re stealthed trying to portal bomb the ACs, you melt instantly
Any guild that sells itself isn’t a guild you want on your server.
You can always find a highly trusted person to be a middleman. Someone with multiple legendaries + good reputation. I don’t think anyone would want to risk an account that has multiple legendaries for precursors that are worth less.
T1 is a joke roaming wise. There is no skill here, only zergs, mini zergs, and groups of 5+. There are some self proclaimed individually skilled “havoc squads”, but I have yet to seen one that won’t zerg you down with 5 players. If you want roaming I don’t suggest going to T1.
I though, like it here, simply because it’s a challenge fighting outnumbered. You’ll lose most of the time in a 1v5, and they will probably proceeded to jump over your body and /laugh, but that one time you win that 1v3/4/5 is worth it.
Does anyone else find it interesting that one person decides the matchup? Whoever WAHA hits during SEA time, won’t win. Waha focuses BG = BG lose. WAHA focus SoR = SoR lose.
Warrior overall.
Stack might + fury
Disc banner
Strength banner
Stack tons of vuln
Multi target DPS, unlike thief, who has to rely on single target D/D to get highest dps.
Zergs over 40 people need a debuffs
A) Make it so that a group of 40+ can be seen anywhere on the map at all times, by every person(including enemy)
B) Groups of 40+ take more damage from siege
C) Groups of 40+ take more damage from players, and deal less damage, scales to the # of players you have
Guardian. What of the reasons why the legendary Greatswords are so nice is because they have a trailing effect that really comes out when the sword is in constant motion, such as spinning, which is seen in 2 guardian greatsword skills.
I was there for that(I remember map chat)
Was huge lag spike, followed by standard server wide “perma haste”
Use a P/D condition spec. Don’t even need rares.