Guild Wars 2

GekoHayate.2451:

Choo is one of the easiest SoR guilds to roll, after that initial push you guys just can’t keep up the pressure open field and run around like chickens with their heads cut off. I think there is a gaming term for players who poorly perform… perhaps you could remind me what that is?

One of the easiest SoR guilds to roll that took your garri from an EE and KNT map blob after wiping them twice inside it during NA then proceeded to WIPE BG and TC forces off the map at the same time and tripple waypointed your BL then defended through NA the next day against map blobs with TW and later by themselves?

I think you are mad, friend.

After seeing BG BL and SoR BL tri-WP’d this morning

http://memegenerator.net/instance/41812690

Night Hawk Ix.7360:

Burl.9567:

Night Hawk Ix.7360:

That with the fact Anet opened WvW again during a busy period for sor and not so much for BG, SoR could push us and we were stuck defending.

They opened WvW during NA prime. No T1 NA server can complain about number advantages during the NA time slot. We all can field during the time slot, so quit with the excuse.

Night Hawk Ix.7360:

And on top of that Anet decided to give us all paper towers/keeps back (min all our seige).

We all started with paper/min siege. Not really a valid complaint.

Night Hawk Ix.7360:

So Yes we lost this matchup thx to Anets incompetence. So BG are mostly karma training now so expect more of the same.

You didn’t lose this matchup because of an 8 hour stretch where no one could play.

Like i said at the time SoR had a lead (25k) i think. Yes we all have our kitten reset you are correct, but with a 25k lead at the time SoR could afford to push BG’s paper keep/towers, when we couldnt risk pushing because of the lead difference and having newly paper keep/towers.

Are you really trying to tell me having W3 closed for 8hrs when SoR was in the lead and giving us less time to get those points back didnt help SoR?

Or the fact we came back to SoR in the lead and BG having paper keep/towers to be zerged?

get real bro.

SoR had more T3 keeps/towers and the shutdown affected EU and EST the most. You wouldn’t have gained anything. You just would have been kittened harder.

Zikory.6871:

I’ll say the triple WP is impressive and grats to you guys. It must have been fun sitting in garrison all night. Though it was fun to see choo running away every time our little zerg tried to get some fights. It seems like you guys got a discount on traveler runes and were testing them out…

Says choo runs

Choo tripple WPs their BL

SoR probably has the strongest EST force in the game if you want most active, however I would also suggest Tarnished Coast, as their EST seems to be very nice.

Gonna have to say ele. Staff eles, guardians, and warriors rule the zerging meta. Without any one of those classes you won’t be able to perform, but eles are exceptional at roaming. D/D is a very powerful build that is difficult to counter. Warrior is great too, but will get destroyed by condi heavy classes with access to immo/chill/cripple, notably thieves and necros.

Engis are also great, but really you can’t go wrong with either of the 3.

CreativeAnarchy.6324:

Doomdesire.9365:

MagiKarp.8201:

Doomdesire.9365:

Jesus Christ BG, how many banners do you have in garrison. An hour and 30 minutes of fighting in garrison and unable to cap with all those banners.

SoR… talking about banners…

Never been in an hour and 30 minute long fight with that many banners in our garrison. The last 30 minutes BG didn’t even have a force anymore, it was just 30 people bannering the lord while 10-15 tried to ninja our hills.

There was probably 30-50 banners dropped on that lord.

I like those banners. Fun to frustrate the other server.

Not much lag for that fight.

What was TC doing in there? Watching or what? They didn’t seem to be doing much of anything in general and their force wasn’t nearly as large as BG or SoR by them selves.

Eh, they seemed to watch from watergate, occasionally knocking it down, and pushed in with a force of about ~30 two or three times but for the most part just looked like they wanted to be left alone. Regardless of how much I despise chain bannering, there were good fights all around. /salute

I usually just use P/D against warriors of this type(I use P/D for everything regardless). The playstyles all revolve around melee, so shadow strike(P/D #3), cripple, and area access denial with caltrops works extremely well.

It’s because the thief plays mind tricks on people. It’s not OP at all, but for some people it’s frustrating. It’s just like a mesmer, but to a larger extent because mesmer clones become very apparent early on.

Thief is, without a doubt, however, probably the best roaming class, and is probably the only class capable of achieving constant 1v3s, ect., but in reality, that’s all thieves excel at. They aren’t wanted in dungeons, zerging, or anything related for that matter. All they really have is roaming, and they are the best class at it, but isn’t “OP”. I can tell you right now my guardian is powerful as hell in zerg fights. It’s just simply not apparent because it’s hard to distinguish when you’re running in a large group, but without guardians your zerg might as well port to Sparkfly and start doing tequatl, because you’re useless without guardians.

Back to the point I was trying to make, I’d also like to add that although the thief can 1v3 ect., it’s generally against bad opponents. There are a multitude of other classes that will destroy a thief in a 1v1, given a competent opponent.

MagiKarp.8201:

Doomdesire.9365:

Jesus Christ BG, how many banners do you have in garrison. An hour and 30 minutes of fighting in garrison and unable to cap with all those banners.

SoR… talking about banners…

Never been in an hour and 30 minute long fight with that many banners in our garrison. The last 30 minutes BG didn’t even have a force anymore, it was just 30 people bannering the lord while 10-15 tried to ninja our hills.

There was probably 30-50 banners dropped on that lord.

Jesus Christ BG, how many banners do you have in garrison. An hour and 30 minutes of fighting in garrison and unable to cap with all those banners.

Axle.5182:

Wolbryne.4037:

Lol bg’s new blob commander beatrix getting so kitten over constantly getting wiped that he has to pull an entire map blob to lag out the entire eb and cause massive rubberbanding. hilarious. his agenda to get revenge on us after he emoed out has gone down the drain. he’s getting smashed in 1v1’s. he’s getting smashed in 2v1’s. and now this map v 25 ? lol you’re funny dude. the level of hurt butt that dude displays is epic. keep up the good(?) work. we’re getting so much loot that we have to stop and empty our bags ever 10 minutes lol

Havoc squad reinforcements en-route looks like we got ourselves a blob convoy to de-rail

Did not know you guys came over. Welcome as well!

Welcome new SoR PST guild Primordus Virtus[RISE]. I am sure BG will be familiar with yall

One guy making S/P work for him doesn’t make it a good build. In fact, it’s still kitten compared to other builds.

Nickthemoonwolf.1485:

renmei.3102:

Looks like 25-30ish people taking a keep. Not all that unusual or overkill for t1 or t2..

but an Omega golem for a wooden keep that flipped as they were running into the gate?
Edit: Dont mistake this for QQ, it seriously made me laugh when it happened. I was getting ready to help run supply for siege and SoR was already at the gate before I could get out of the lords room.
and to add to that, I ran to the NW tower to find the wall down and people in the lords room! it capped behind me so I had to book it over the wall.

I guess you’ve never seen

Le Rooster.8715:

Although Blackgate lost MERC, they gained ZN,EE and some other guilds aswell.

The problem is with a SoR BG matchup BG’s NA is for the most part…nullified. With or without ZN/EE still doesn’t matter because the matchup is decided on off hours.

Good luck DB and FA. Although you guys didn’t have the numbers, when there were fights, they were intense!

Stomp those toasties into the ground!

You can try SoR. When it’s a boring matchup our WvW Oceanic/SEA crew will do tequatl w/ organized comms. I’m not sure if it will be happening again since this matchup was an exception but I would check it out anyways.

wedo.3049:

UNOFFICAL GVG vs EP tonight was fun err scrim whatever, best fight we have had so far NS 4 EP 2 or NS 4 EP 3 either or was fun guys gg <3

I thought the point of an unofficial gvg was so that you don’t parade it around on the forums

Fannwong.3059:

We have some commanders looking to transfers and are asking some important questions.

Here’s a update of the current SOR Guilds & Militia makeup:

1. 1st and foremost, SOR commanders put in the time and effort to fight for themselves and the timezone, no one owes you if you decide to play overtime. We strongly discourage commanders to extend coverage beyond a reasonable playtime. Hence even if PPT drops, commanders will not go overtime to help push PPT. WvW is a marathon, not a sprint. Do not burnout.

2. SOR Guilds & militia are shaped and trained for open field fights. This includes group trait-ing, class formation, etc.

3. Our militia are not as experienced as JQ (ex DAOC) and BG militia in siege placement and scouting. They are being trained however by experienced militia commanders from the guilds. It will take time for militia to shape up.

4. SOR TS is key to cross map comms and coordination. Guild and militia are strongly encouraged to get in TS. Guild channels are not password protected except in training sessions.

FW

1 is perhaps the most important value every server should have. Please don’t burn yourselves out, we want WvW to last till the next best thing! That’s not to say, if your guild is having fun play as much as you want, but please don’t burnout over ppt.

Lenador.1436:

Doomdesire.9365:

Lets get a fight club or something started…

center ruins….. didnt you here fight club is dead

I just don’t see 50 -150 stat points making that big of a difference in dueling :/

Lets get a fight club or something started…

magikfox.9658:

pot.6805:

Thanks for all the fun fights tonight in JQ BL.

Dayyum, guess you guys don’t need your server wide fundraiser to buy more guilds than :/

Probably more overtime, LOL.

Never learn…

Crimson Riddles.3892:

Liquid.9672:

Zhrek.9781:

Does this mean BG, hates JQ more than SoR now?

Not likely lol. The BG/SoR rivalry goes pretty deep.

SoR’s just mad because they lost 23 times to Blackgate out of the 35 weeks we fought each other.

I can’t hear you over the horrible karaoke singing of my stable, happy community

JaredKincade.9761:

Doomdesire.9365:

Anyone with eyes could see that this was going to happen to BG’s OCX/SEA from a mile away.

Moral of the story: Overtime isn’t sustainable. Doing inhumane things for ppt is silly.

If this were the case, they would have left weeks ago, not right before League play, which overtime play would have been sustainable.

Or maybe it’s because they knew OT wasn’t going to work anymore with JQ’s now massive, pre MERC transfer SEA force, and thus gave into the pressure.

It’s not hard logic. Happy guilds = Happy server
BG obviously needs to evaluate some things.

Anyone with eyes could see that this was going to happen to BG’s OCX/SEA from a mile away.

Moral of the story: Overtime isn’t sustainable. Doing inhumane things for ppt is silly.

Samhayn.2385:

I wonder if we removed PPT (leave some back end calcs for ranking) and the bonuses from PPT that no one seems to care about, and just made wvw about wxp and the fights if people would worry about this as much and if the population would spread out more.

There still needs to be an incentive, IMO. I, for one, would not attack a fully T3 SM with an enemy hiding behind ACs in a battle filled with skill lag if it didn’t mean anything.

May I suggest you take a look at

https://forum-en.gw2archive.eu/forum/wuv/recruitment/Meet-Sanctum-of-Rall-s-Army/first#post2901702

You may or may not be interested in Tier 1 and what we have to offer, but we would love to have you guys be part of the community.

Good luck and I hope you choose the server which fits your needs!

mobilejunkie.9260:

Blackgate is a tier 1 server but is undermanned during Oceanic time. Refer to https://forum-en.gw2archive.eu/forum/wuv/recruitment/Blackgate-Recruiting-SEA-Euro-and-Oceanic-1 for more details.

I seriously just lol’d. BG has the strongest Oceanic in the game…

Peetee.9406:

The reason you haven’t seen a lock on T1 is NA is a result of those servers bleeding players at an unsustainable rate. For every person that transfers into T1, 5 more quit playing, become PvE exclusive, or go elsewhere.

From the outside looking in, you see the scores are even so it looks like a great match up, it’s not. BG PvDoors for 8 hours, SoR PvDoors for 8 hours, and JQ PvDoors for 8 hours, ain’t nobody fight anyone anymore.

BG has MERC (oceanic) and every other guild on the server struggles with attendance and it’s not like MERC is perfect, they lost their guild leader at one point.

JQ has ATM (southeast asia) and every other guild on the server struggles with attendance. Again like MERC, they’re not perfect. They used to be FoO but there was some internal struggle, the guild split up, and reformed as ATM with far less people.

SoR doesn’t even have a flagship guild anymore. Their two strongest time zones were always EU and NA lead by IRON and TW respectfully, well the guild leaders and a large chunk of players from both guilds are either gone or inactive.

T1 NA is dying…rapidly. If you were to take Kaineng or Maguuma from 6 months ago and pair them against the current T1 NA servers, they would win.

I can’t speak for other servers, but that information is false. IRON’s leaders and guildies are still here, as well as TW. The only difference is that Indo has been gone due to work for the past week or two, and is now getting back into the game.

Anyways, to the topic at hand, keep in mind the link you posted is a T1 server versus T2 servers. That in itself shows the major imbalance, and for some reason Anet wants to match T1 servers to servers as low as T4. Come on Anet, T1 vs T2 is a complete coverage roflstomp, why do you think the leagues will be a good idea?

Clumsy.6257:

C Banks.4358:

Clumsy.6257:

In dungeons and fractals a thief’s purpose is pure damage. We currently out damage all classes except ele

I’m curious where you got this from? i was always under the impression that warriors were top tier damage above thieves. Also another question i had which would be considered the best weaponset for raw damage?

warriors aren’t top tier anymore

1. LH/FGS ele
2. Thief (single target)
3. War, guard, mes, thief (cleave)
4. Ranger, engi
5. Necro
And I run 25/30//0/0/15 for dungeons and 0/30/20/20/0 for fractals. My default weapon sets are d/d and s/p swapping the s/p to s/d for stealing might from certain bosses and short bow or p/p for stuff that has to be ranged

But warriors give might, fury, banners to the entire group, and is multi target, so they are still the better DPS option for dungeons…

Raw, unbuffed DPS the thief may do more, but in an ideal dungeon scenario, warrior is still much better.

Probably cause boss events are up in participation, especially tequatl.

That particular food is strong, however there’s a direct counter food to it, whereas there are no direct counter foods for other arguably strong foods(besides toughness, but curry will still give more of an advantage, IIRC).

IBountyHunterI.4601:

Doomdesire.9365:

IBountyHunterI.4601:

Did anyone else on DB BL just mass crash or was it just all of TG?

Was just TG, SoR didn’t have any crashes(that we noticed).

kitten that sucks, we all DC’ed at NW camp. Like all 28 of us at once.

That’s unfortunate to hear. Hopefully you guys can get back into the BL queueless. Great fights tonight, BTW.

Some of them were bug fixes. For example CnD stacking stealth off walls was an exploit.

IBountyHunterI.4601:

Did anyone else on DB BL just mass crash or was it just all of TG?

Was just TG, SoR didn’t have any crashes(that we noticed).

WTF BG stay in your own thread, kitten .

As to FA, and DB, good fights. Hopefully we can get some GvGs in this week. :P
If anyone wants to duel me then whisper me in game!

It’s OP in 1v1s but kitten in 1v2+

They need to add an ICD of 10 seconds, that’s all.

I’m going to join RATS as a human, but I’ll be using sinister automatonics so you’ll never know!

Had lots of fun fighting NS in JQ BL, AGG &HzH in BG BL, and later on NS, AGG, and HzH in BG BL.

/salute

Night Hawk Ix.7360:

Doomdesire.9365:

How nice of BG to golem rush our garrison while the BL is glitched and nobody can enter…

Edit: Got rolled back, rofl.

1. It was ONE golem not a “Golem Rush” imo
2. How are we to know it was bugged for you? Took a gamble of hitting it and it paid off
3. If we could’nt get in our BL and you knew we couldnt, but you could, would you not hit it?
4. You had defenders on the map btw its not like 0 were defending.

1) Okay, 1 golem
2) Because it was bugged for everyone, including other servers, since the patch was hitting
3) No
4) We had 5 people defending, rofl. I hoped you enjoyed the doors.

How nice of BG to golem rush our garrison while the BL is glitched and nobody can enter…

Edit: Got rolled back, rofl.

NS, are your members into dueling? If so, I would like to set up some duels, 1v1 new people, ect.

Because NA has a stupid obsession with ppt. The general opinion is that winning the matchup = skill, not coverage, despite the fact that NA servers actively recruit like crazy.

And so the super stacking begins. This surpasses a new level of stacking.

First of all, I think JQ needed recruiting, but now that they have NS, AGG, GD, all they need is a medium sized oceanic guild – that’s it.

For BG, if you really did recruit RB and some other guilds, all I have to say is lol. You’re in first place, you don’t need anymore guilds.

As for SoR, I think we are in a good position. We don’t need anymore recruits but of course guilds will mindlessly flock here for the leagues.

I think it may be time to move to a lower tier if things get out of hand

AoE classes like necros and LB condi warriors rule the circles, just like they do in spvp.

The new orbs destroyed GvG, the only time I really played my thief in wvw anymore.

I was thinking of actually maining him once against to capture points for bloodlust, but it’s already apparent roaming classes (mesmer, thief, d/d ele) are absolutely useless because the points are ruled by necros, engis, and condition warriors spamming AoE’s and fears, and CCs.

So no, I am not happy with this content. In fact I would much rather it return to the way it was before.

Just make body shot a blast finisher that costs 7 initiative.

Makes P/P useful, without adding another stealth spamming build into the game.

I support this idea. It’s a great way to implement the “anti stealth” instead of this revealed nonsense.

Avenge.1478:

Well looks like JQ has received [Agg], [NS], and now an EU guild named [GD]? Not sure why everybody is stacking T1, its going to suck during ‘Leagues’ when 5 weeks out of 6 youll be fighting ghost town servers. Guilds should spread out instead of stacking T1 servers.

GD is one of the best EU guilds. Looking at GW2GVG.com, their only recorded loss was against Scnd.